Exclusive look at MTA's G train modernization

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@gabrielrussell5531 3 ай бұрын

G train is the best in terms of where it goes, but the worst in terms of reliability. If it continued north into the bronx it would be the perfect line.

@pokaluz38 3 ай бұрын

The extension of the g line into the bronx won’t pay back the cost in hundreds of years

@BigRedBK 3 ай бұрын

It's not bad in terms of reliability. It runs quite on schedule as it mostly runs by itself, only sharing with the F from Bergen Street and south. Could it be more frequent? Sure. But even there, it runs more frequently than about half of the letter lines. Every eight minutes on weekends is better than lines such as the C, D, F, N, and R, for example.

@NovusOSC 3 ай бұрын

Why would the (G) go to the Bronx anyway? There's already the (B) and (D). Riders have never asked for a (G) extension to the Bronx. It will never happen. Pardon me for my attitude, but it's just the truth.

@BukBrekker Ай бұрын

@@pokaluz38 Why would they ever extend the G into that dirty ahh borough

@noahnorman6877 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think delays are the issue with the G train as I live near there and before the shutdown and delays almost never happened. The real issue I truly believe are the facepalm inducing headways, which can range from 6 to 10 minutes throughout the day. And often those headways can double or even triple, so the first train may come in 5 minutes, and then the next one will come in like 20 minutes.

@i_am_a_toast_of_french 3 ай бұрын

that's because the g interlines with the f from bergen st to church av and there have to be many more f trains than g trains because the f is busier

@MrMartinadolfsson 3 ай бұрын

100% agree

@yellowpsychopath 3 ай бұрын

@@i_am_a_toast_of_french If they deinterlined the G by making the F run solely express on the Culver Line then it would resolve this issue completely. But of course, riders would probably not be ready to embrace that.

@connorcoffee6183 3 ай бұрын

Reading this while living in texas where our local train comes every hour 💀

@BigRedBK 3 ай бұрын

Funny thing is that G is actually one of the newest subway lines in NYC, not the oldest. It was opened from 1933-1937. Not a ton has been built since. But many of the lines which are older have had some sort of signal updates.

@kirkrotger9208 3 ай бұрын

The infrastructure is among the oldest. Most of it has never been replaced.

@OnanX501 3 ай бұрын

Underground WiFi? 👌🏿

@DDELE7 3 ай бұрын

It’s called Communication Based Train Control. Most major subway systems on earth use this. The old system that’s currently used works fine but you never quite sure where the train is exactly. That system can only tell you what section of track is occupied by a train. CBTC makes it possible to have accurate real time information of where any train is. It’s really cool. The reason the 7, L and the G have this is because they don’t share their routes with other train services. This makes installation much simpler. Trains on the Queens Blvd trunk line have it too but that project took much longer to complete.

@johnnysuazo5666 3 ай бұрын

@@OnanX501 The majority of the MTA's NYCT stations have WiFi availability to the public from the private company Transit Wireless which I believe is owned by BAI Communications. WiFi access is provided by these companies under the auspices of the MTA with internet communications offloaded to any of the major telephone companies server access points located within the subway stations. This only applies to underground stations. The MTA has been slow with providing WiFi access within the tunnels between stations but only two sections that I know of have WiFi access between stations, the L line 14st East River tunnel section between Bedford Avenue and 1st Avenue stations, the 63rd Tunnel under the East River for the F line. I believe that ATT and Verizon are providing cellular service for those sections and you can use WiFi through their cellular access points. CBTC communications between trains and wayside zone controllers do use the same ISM frequency band as the current 2.4GHz WiFi band but are not WiFi. The radio protocols and radio packet negotiations are different. It's more of a machine to machine burst of radio communications that are highly spatially directed meaning the radio energy is physically pointed to wayside receivers for reception and transmission to trains. You cannot pickup this signal through WiFi receivers. MTA does not maintain these access points, contractors do under the auspices of ATT and Verizon.

@johnnysuazo5666 3 ай бұрын

@tweetingsparks 3 ай бұрын

Why they always have NJ going in the trenches?

@jdredman 3 ай бұрын

That's NJ's beat.

@fhowland 3 ай бұрын

NJ? What ?

@ironhorsefilmsLLC 3 ай бұрын

I had to take the E train from Jamaica Center, because someone got drunk and straddled on to the the LIRR tracks and got hit by the train. So I had to take the E train to Penn station. That subway line was so slow. I thought it would take maybe a half-hour, nope almost 90 minutes.

@HatianHurricane 3 ай бұрын

The G train has alway been neglected because it doesn't go to Manhattan where the important people live.

@evelynquinones1713 3 ай бұрын

It really needed especially I travel from work late nights

@Redsoxgaming 3 ай бұрын

The gs biggest issue will always be that it runs 5 car trains (which is why the f can’t run express full time on culver)

@i_am_a_toast_of_french 3 ай бұрын

the f can't run more express on culver because there is opposition from the local community, not because g trains are short

@MrMartinadolfsson 3 ай бұрын

Please explain?

@CaptainDripp 3 ай бұрын

That has more to do with the Availability of Equipment which is something that will slowly be resolved with the incoming R-211 Order

@bigwristband 3 ай бұрын

Of course Hochul f*cked the project. Shocker.

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

The Capital program has always been funded by the Federal Government not congestion price gouging 😂

@BukBrekker Ай бұрын

Migrants*

@mr198221 3 ай бұрын

My line growing up in Brooklyn. Classon avenue, baby!

@evelynquinones1713 3 ай бұрын

They need more cars

@goldie260 3 ай бұрын

they wont add cars... lol I work at court sq....

@Noobguy-vj9lk 3 ай бұрын

@@goldie260 Why not though?

@kobyschechter8163 3 ай бұрын

There are more than 20 R211 sets operating on the A and C lines right now and more are on the way. They should be able to retire the 50 year old R46 cars soon.

@BMTEnjoyer160 3 ай бұрын

@@kobyschechter81635 r46 sets have been retired

@asharcar 3 ай бұрын

its crazy how burkett has been in eyewitness since before 9/11 and hes the one who live showed the 9/11 incident

@kingofthelight8260 3 ай бұрын

Remember when both V G and R train went to Forest Hills 71st Street? That was my era when R32 E train and R46 F V G and R were around.

@trainluvr 3 ай бұрын

Great overview.

@zycklacon9588 9 сағат бұрын

1:59 is the biggest example of why even the news should fact check itself. No, CBTC does NOT use GPS bro 😭It's underground, It's not PTC how could it possibly be doing that? It uses a system of Transponders, Computers, and way-side controllers to report where the train is and communicate with the system.

@azninvasion 3 ай бұрын

As someone that lives near a G train stop, you can never rely on it getting you to work on time unless you leave 2 hours before your shift. I just uber it and pretend it doesn't exist because it basically doesn't.

@phillipjason 3 ай бұрын

Are they putting new trains on the G trains once all finished?

@kobyschechter8163 3 ай бұрын

A full shutdown for weeks at a time is the most efficient way to complete this project. If they did shutdowns only on weekends, it would drag on for years and years. It also saves the most money to do all this work in one go. The F and G lines run the R160 fleet exclusively now because they are compatible with the CBTC technology. There's no gain without some pain.

@TheCinderDude 3 ай бұрын

Precisely. Fix everything at once and borrow busses if they need to

@pokaluz38 3 ай бұрын

People don’t pay their share it comes to ride the train and buses

@dwdeclare1965 3 ай бұрын

very groovy! cbtc (communications-based train control). just read about this in john morris's book "subway: the history, curiosities, and secrets of the new york city transit system".

@NYCerious 3 ай бұрын

Hey, it's the guy from the 9/11 films

@lolalasziv1059 3 ай бұрын

2:32 He ist what? The G Train Tsar? That means he will slaughter the workers like a Tsar does?

@josephmitchell5302 3 ай бұрын

That’s the plan of the MTA the switch new signals and no more motorman or conductors train will do all that by itself. How safe will you feel being on this train?

@piggy8761 3 ай бұрын

How is modernization bad buddy 🤦‍♂️

@josephmitchell5302 3 ай бұрын

@@piggy8761 When you start laying off workers, that’s how

@TheRailLeaguer Ай бұрын

That’s not how any of this works.

@KingRamzi11 3 ай бұрын

Trains using gps is crazyyyy

@hmmdoh7835 3 ай бұрын

y the signal lights like been used long time.... the rails aint look new at all

@pollarddisposal 3 ай бұрын

That’s the thing with new rails on any railway.. new rails will often look rusted/covered in some sort of corrosion making them look older, meanwhile older rails may look newer because they have that smooth/ mirror finish on top from the train wheels riding on them.

@kevsta67 3 ай бұрын

....and where is the money comming from? The tolls that will be enforced in manahattan

@madisonknight10 3 ай бұрын

I feel like there’s going to protest against the MTA because every news report about the MTA has most of the comments upset

@coyotestylepro1150 3 ай бұрын

🤓🤓🤓 Discovered t/ G For t/ 1st time recently Had to ride it because i AM 1 😎

@RudieObias 3 ай бұрын

There's always a G at the end of waiting 😅

@blueants-lq7lr 3 ай бұрын

I thought they didn’t have money ????

@anthonysnyder1152 3 ай бұрын

They have money, but not enough money to fully fix the system.

@Dutchvanderlinde213 3 ай бұрын

Les goo CBTC

@sparky3869 3 ай бұрын

stop blaming congesting pricing. MTA waste more money. I really like to know why MTA are changing the color of the helmets to brown..They have more, just crying that they do not

@metropod 3 ай бұрын

The helmets are color coded by which division you work for.

@sparky3869 3 ай бұрын

@@metropod I already know that

@jdredman 3 ай бұрын

Wait, you think helmet color is what's causing MTA shortfalls?

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

@@metropodThose are all contractors...

@hrysivjt67 3 ай бұрын

90% on time is still really bad by global standards

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

By "Global Standards" It's the only 24hr system in the world 😂

@RantRantJoe 3 ай бұрын

I like the woman's response that she still lacks confidence in the MTA after installing CBTCs, and she is right. The L train line has been fitted with this and the train on time has been 9 - 12 minutes apart and so is the F line. MTA does not know how to run anything, even with more than enough resources at its disposal.

@d-meth 3 ай бұрын

L trains run every 4min and have for many years. Sometimes on the weekends or at night every 8min. The F train is a joke.

@johnnysuazo5666 3 ай бұрын

I'm a NYCT CBTC Specialist who monitors and maintains the L and M line CBTC system. I can assure you that all CBTC equipped trains run within 4 minutes from each other except on weekends and overnights where trains run from 8 minutes apart to 20 minutes overnight. We know where each train is located down to a meter of localization. And the trains don't use GPS for localization the track transponders contain the geographical coordinates of the route which are energized through induction by the overhead running trains. The trains wirelessly radio back their positions to wayside zone controller servers which updated to the CBTC ATS computer system for monitoring. Best thing transit has at the moment for signal modernization.

@RantRantJoe 3 ай бұрын

@@johnnysuazo5666 Ok. It might not be the transponders then. It is probably the lack of quality service from the MTA in general. These past few weeks I've noticed the L train in Lorimer station has been running 9 - 12 mins apart during the morning rush and there weren't any reported incidents.

@johnnysuazo5666 3 ай бұрын

@@RantRantJoethere are always times when an L train loses its localization and the train loses its autonomous control. The train operator has to manually intervene to maintain the overall train schedule. It's not perfect all the time but it's magnitudes better than the old fixed block signal system which by the way is still supported by the CBTC system in case the system went down which it never has.

@d-meth 3 ай бұрын

@@johnnysuazo5666 the M trains rutinely run every 10-15min, I think that only the L runs every 4min

@maxmcloughlin 3 ай бұрын

This is not true, more than just the 7 and L have the new signaling

@xeno8630 3 ай бұрын

Nope, L and 7 train are the only ones with CBTC

@maxmcloughlin 3 ай бұрын

That’s not true, the EFMR on the queens blvd line have it too

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

And here come all the transit experts in the comments you know as usual...

@NYCStudio81 3 ай бұрын

Only on the media

@ProjectsHoodRat 3 ай бұрын

While Janno Lieber acting Chairman and CEO of the MTA gets paid 400k annually, as much if not more than POUS. Yet all this guy does is come out to speak once every few weeks, brings up dumb projects and plans, goes back into the office with the 11 board members to debate on how to raise more money, nothing gets done at the end of the day and they simply drive their nice luxury car back to their million dollar homes.... Oh right, their cars don't get ticketed because have their "special parking permit" on their dashboard

@metropod 3 ай бұрын

“Nothing gets done”… what do you call all that work being done in the video?

@Mrg0ldeneye 3 ай бұрын

@@metropodbandaids

@nyctransitrailfan 3 ай бұрын

@@metropodlooks fake to me

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

@Mrg0ldeneye Apparently you don't know anything about the railroad if you think this work is just Bandaids...

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

@@nyctransitrailfanWhat looks fake brand new rails and switches?

@ElJibaro718 3 ай бұрын

Big deal. Ut aint like its the only line in the city. What about the D line in The Bronx and irher osrts it yhe city? It's as though only the grntrigied areas get repairs.

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

The G line runs through worse shithole areas than the Bronx and there's plenty of work being done in the Bronx as well...

@AaronMohammed-v6v 3 ай бұрын

MTA SERVICE BUSES BUSES MTA JOE OK HE IS MY FRIEND OK

@Gustafson68 3 ай бұрын

so delays arent the problem when they're not even running enough trains to be delayed... Next train showing arrival time in 27 minutes is NOT a delay. It's an intentional decision the conductors make so they can collect overtime.

@i_am_a_toast_of_french 3 ай бұрын

something probably happened to the f train for that delay to happen

@dfirth224 3 ай бұрын

It will be worth it when it's finished.

@surfntrucks 3 ай бұрын

F the MTA, I bet it won't get finished until they ask for more money. Even if the project is already paid for by the city and New Yorker's tax money. They even get federal tax money and the subway is the worst in the world. What a joke.

@metropod 3 ай бұрын

Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

@BukBrekker Ай бұрын

Billions of dollars (higher than the NYPD budget) to migrants living in 5 star hotels fed 3 times a day, free clothing, living allowance, wifi, pool, gym though. No audits for that

@surfntrucks Ай бұрын

@@BukBrekker This is what I'm trying to tell New Yorkers here. That money needs to be used on New Yorkers who are at risk of harm just for trying to get to work and minding their business. Pick righ tthis time NYC please.

@maxlinder5262 3 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter.... Usual Suspects will still behave badly....😊.. just my opinion

@marcuswright8418 3 ай бұрын

After the millions and billions spent, it will still look and run like a sh*thole subway. What a failed city.

@metropod 3 ай бұрын

I take it you have not ridden the L or the 7 in the last decade…

@marcuswright8418 3 ай бұрын

@@metropod compared to Japanese trains, these are bad. Especially when their trains and maintained and renovated at a fraction of what’s spent here.

@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@marcuswright8418Japanese built the train in nyc

@piggy8761 3 ай бұрын

@@marcuswright8418because America doesnt like trains anymore, ever since the 50-60-70s We are a nation of NIMBYs who dont want to be taxed for anything Those societies, western europe and east asia, all are happy to be taxed so that their govt builds something USEFUL for them like public transit. Be grateful with what we have in the northeast corridor buddy, because you have no idea how bad CA, TX, and FL have it when they desperately need it. NYC Boston and Chicago, even Atlanta got in before all the NIMBYs ruined it.

@BukBrekker Ай бұрын

Billions of dollars to migrants living in 5 star hotels fed 3 times a day, free clothing, living allowance, wifi, pool, gym though and to them its still not enough

@amirmendoza89 3 ай бұрын

Ofc they gonna upgrade the train for the trust fund transplant babies

@TheRailLeaguer 3 ай бұрын

Not necessarily true. They also made upgrades to the Queens Blvd Line, which stretches east to Jamaica, where a bus link heads to low-income Southeast Queens. Also they made signal upgrades to the Canarsie and Flushing Lines, which also service low-income areas.

@istaycatchingfish2552 3 ай бұрын

What part of the city do you live in and I'll tell you what work is going on there to improve that area this isn't the only work going on in the entire system...

@randylotito8045 3 ай бұрын

RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.

@newyorkcity76 3 ай бұрын

No lot people use G line all of them take L. Train

@xeno8630 3 ай бұрын

You should see how packed the G train is

@ewnyMetroExpress 3 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 TAKE IT AS ANOTHER JOKE!

@randylotito8045 3 ай бұрын

RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 DOWNSTAIRS INSIDE NEAR THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION PLATFORMS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.