EXCLUSIVE: Steve Englehart's The Batman Script Treatments From 1986

[@jacksonwayneputnam1599]

The Colonel Sanders Joker sketch is one of my favorites so far. Also, great episode.

[@evanzaremba4722]

Joker as Colonel Sanders?

[@shamrockballs1066]

Cheers for the shout out lads! Another enjoyable episode! I love what you're doing! 😁

[@evanzaremba4722]

Yeah, cheers.

[@johnwells5414]

Thanks for the shout out guys! I appreciate all the hard work you guys and information you guys put into these shows

[@evanzaremba4722]

It is an appreciations.

[@patrickallen13]

Amazing art, again. I gotta buy some prints soon. Best podcast.

[@evanzaremba4722]

I agree.

[@CartersRemasters]

Just got hard into Batman again, and found your channel, my favorite bat channel. I remember hearing you guys saying that River Phoenix would be a perfect Robin

[@evanzaremba4722]

If he plays Robin for Burton.

[@Bobbybillybillbob]

I was a paper boy when I was 13-14 and that was in 2002-2003, so believable Dick could be a paperboy in 86

[@Sketchcraft]

Just one of the best podcasts out there, fantastic banter and a wonderful deep dive into batfilm history. Bravo!

[@evanzaremba4722]

It is one of the best podcasts in history.

[@SuperHousePodcast]

Check out our Show Notes to get a closer look at some of the visuals and a link to the Comics X-Aminer interview that features an excerpt from the ending of the second treatment: superherostuffpod.com/post/exclusive-steve-englehart-s-the-batman-script-treatments-from-1986 (Link will be active when the episode premieres)

[@ianjustus3990]

Thank you all so much for not only this (amazing) episode but all that you guys do. It is so awesome to be able to listen to people who have the same love for the character and everything that goes with him. You guys are awesome. Can't wait for the next episode

[@evanzaremba4722]

It is.

[@WalkBesideMe]

Englehart's first draft is really solid

[@JaredPresleyExperience]

Very nice episode. I've mentioned on Instagram that this would be a better sequel movie imo. Some changes made, swap joker with another villain. Have some expansion and additional scenes with them too. Could of been a good 3rd movie.

[@evanzaremba4722]

It could be.

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

Lol, Zack doing the Brady Bunch thing after the skit at 1:06:27

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

Also, I'm very interested in the video essay Ben mentioned not long after

[@zacharyjacksonbrownart7965]

I’m glad someone appreciated it!

[@evanzaremba4722]

That's funny.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 I would love to write essays.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@zacharyjacksonbrownart7965 I appreciate it too.

[@WarriorSmurf]

According to an issue of (I think) The New Teen Titans, it is shown that the chained/scalemail part of Robin's costume is a onesie. The torso part is underneath the red shirt.

[@evanzaremba4722]

Neal Adams redesigned the Robin suit in the 1990s after The New Teen Titans.

[@WarriorSmurf]

@@evanzaremba4722 Yeah, I remember the promotional poster and the article in Comics Scene magazine being released during the second half of 1990.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@WarriorSmurf you do?

[@WarriorSmurf]

@@evanzaremba4722 Yep. It was on display in comic shops to promote the first Robin mini-series. I was in my freshman year of high school.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@WarriorSmurf that's right.

[@phantomspydj]

Zach did an awesome Joker impression. Very interesting Batman takes by Englehart

[@zacharyjacksonbrownart7965]

Thanks!

[@evanzaremba4722]

Thank you very much.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@zacharyjacksonbrownart7965 yeah, thanks.

[@fredrikcarlstedt393]

Very interesting and solid concepts in borh Batman treatments by Steve Englehart .

[@Dohsoda]

I feel the Robin storyline is better in draft one, but the Joker is stronger in draft two. There's a pretty good script in there somewhere.

[@evanzaremba4722]

And it'll be emotional.

[@nobodyhere8257]

I like this script better than what we got, very interesting

[@TheRealNormanBates]

11:40 is Thomas Wayne secretly Dick Tracy? 26:50 “would you like to know my secret identity?” 1:10:20 ahh, so the “Hamlet theory” from *The Ninth Configuration (1981)*

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

In the immortal words of Tim Burton: “No Robin”😅 As I’ve said before, i prefer a solo, more tortured Batman. As the first film in a series, i think B89’s take works better with a relatively new Batman who is a more mysterious phantom-like creature of the night as opposed to a well known established Batman who has already been operating in Gotham for 3 years. As a side note you mentioned the upcoming Batman ‘89 comic series coming soon. Would you consider cover the issues in a future show? Interestingly, i recently was able to acquire a collection of Near mint Graphic novels. Batman Cataclysm, Road to No Man’s Land vol 1&2, and the 6 volumes of No Man’s Land. What amazed me so far reading Cataclysm is that the artists were drawing Gotham very much like Anton Furst’s Gotham and Batman was wearing a near black Batsuit. I have to say, it looks great and works just as well on the page as it did in the film. PS, I’ve been meaning to say this for a while, Zack’s artwork is outstanding. I would love to buy a custom piece.🙂

[@SuperHousePodcast]

We likely won't do a podcast episode on the Batman 89 comic series. We'll be doing something else for it here ;) And feel free to reach out to Zack through his website at www.zacharyjacksonbrownart.com

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

@@SuperHousePodcast Thanks for replying. I look forward to your coverage.🙂 I’ll check out Zack’s website as well👍

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

I actually feel the opposite. I feel like almost every Batman film is seriously lacking because of Robin's exclusion. I find it hard to believe that a person like the Bruce we know would be able to sustain himself mentally without the effect that having to raise a young boy who in many ways echoes his own life has on him. To me it's just a matter of making sure the writing makes the story and relationship believable, as obviously it's very easy to make the idea too campy

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 In my humble opinion, Robin is antithetical to Batman and i feel like there are better sources for support for Bruce such as Alfred, Gordon, and Leslie Thompkins. I’m not against a serious love interest like Silver also acting as stabilising force in Bruce’s life as long as the two don’t get too cosy☺️ But Robin? No. I’ve enjoyed reading some origin tales where Bruce has helped the boy and shared their mutual pain, but the moment that kid puts on those little green pixy booties and those tight little shorts I’m out! 😅

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

@@walter_the_wobot2349 Haha, to each their own! To me, Batman isn't Batman without Robin, but I understand where you're coming from. That's what I meant when I said it's *very easy* to make the concept seem terrible and writers should definitely tread carefully, especially when dealing with a younger Robin. It's always fun to hear other people's perspectives though!

[@redrumizfun8239]

Wow love the art work & this story sounds great & real intresting I dig a proper robin origins movie.🔥🔥🦇🦇

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

8:43 the condiment king

[@evanzaremba4722]

Buddy Stanler.

[@evanzaremba4722]

I would love to get Strange Apparitions.

[@bigcityreporter]

Another great episode! Speaking of Hugo Strange, I vaguely remember rumors going around before The Dark Knight Rises began production about Tom Hardy possibly playing Hugo Strange. Am I just imagining this or did this actually happen? Your thoughts on if Hardy would be a good Strange? Thanks!

[@SuperHousePodcast]

Jesse- we saw your tweet on this and actually recorded our in-depth answer just the other day! Look out for it when you get to this week's Patreon ep. ;)

[@evanzaremba4722]

This is before they confirmed Bane.

[@evanzaremba4722]

@@SuperHousePodcast that's how they plan to use the villains.

[@small-calvillo8583]

“…it is comedical.”

[@ramboroberto]

This was a great script!!!

[@evanzaremba4722]

Yeah, it is.

[@Pwg1985]

Wtf dudes. I see 89 Batman. So i start watching with my son. And yall start. Throwing out F bombs and shit.

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

He'll survive. He's also covered in blood in the thumbnail. If you want a filtered version of adults talking to each other, podcasts might not be the best place to go. I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't think it's fair to put blame on them for you watching it with your kid. This video isn't labeled as for kids

[@Pwg1985]

@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 your funny. Ha ha ha. It has Batman on it. Kids like batman???? Anything??? But anyways. Your kind of a idiot with the whole blood on my hands bull shit. How??? Im sure its some 2020 bull shit that i don't believe or care to hear about. Im white and proud.

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

@@Pwg1985 what on earth are you talking about

[@wyattmcgee1]

@@Pwg1985 Batman isn’t just for kids. And what the hell does you being white have to do with ANYTHING?

[@BodaciousBob66]

Your profile picture is Calvin Candie. Why don’t you explain that character to your son champ? Lol