EXCLUSIVE: WAGO 207-4301 The new junction box for heating systems.

[@efixx]

SEE FULL STEP BY STEP WIRING HERE 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHmnopanh6yYnZY

[@LudwigVanStealth]

Just fitted one today, great bit of kit and a lot faster install

[@odinnln5694]

2 years ago had to rwire my existing boiler connector box. Ripped out the screw terminals and superglued 222 terminals into the box which worked. The new box would have been even better.

[@jeffreyjordan2986]

bus bar fittings for Ns and CPCs would be great jeff j

[@delspark]

looks good thanks for the review 🤙

[@27b-6]

Excellent well thought out product.

[@seankelly6336]

Definitely going to use this

[@janisjersovs2441]

Still screwdriver required to release cables 😉 I like the small space above terminals for tags

[@efixx]

Wago make a special tool for releasing cage clamps. It’s not a screwdriver (but looks suspiciously like one)

[@douglasgreaves188]

It's a requirement that a tool is needed to access anything with potential danger.

[@nigelcharteris2950]

Cables entering from the bottom only are great - heating wiring is often done where there is pipework, so if there is a leak, water is less likely to enter the wiring centre. I think the price is easily justified by the time you save in installation and long term for the customer in any fault finding as fault diagnosis will be a lot easier. Much better than an adaptable box as you don't have to drill holes for glands, the drilling creating micro-plastics particles and pollution. Fault-finding on an adaptable box with nothing labelled wastes time and is costly.

[@ianbowie2015]

One of the main differences from the previous one is the lack of examples of Y and S types. There must be an optimal layout of cable entries and placement of the various connection points.

[@efixx]

We've now made this video with our suggested layout for S-Plan - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHmnopanh6yYnZY

[@ianbowie2015]

@@efixx and I have a Y plan ...... I’ve all the parts so I’ll wait 🤫

[@ianbowie2015]

It’s really useful and worth the effort expanded in the cold. In my documentation, I label the cables with a source and destination to make it easier to trouble shoot but I have been shielding for 11 months!

[@bobs4738]

Any chance of a suggested layout for a y-plan using this L60 box?

[@enriquedmu1]

Weather this is practical cost wise is irrelevant to me at the moment, the fact that they have quickly changed the product, shows its a very well run company.

[@ianbowie2015]

Great video - is there still access to the testing point(s) on the 221s

[@efixx]

Good question - we will check this

[@ianbowie2015]

@@efixx checked can’t get to the rear test point when box is on the wall. Can still get to the one on the front if you can get under the wiring to reach the Wago 221s installed in the centre area of the box

[@acelectricalsecurity]

Cord grips are a nice touch, but for me the Drayton wiring center is hard to beat, and again the cost of this unit will stop it being mainstream.

[@dominicdodd9759]

I've only found one reference to a price for the 207-4301 so far - denbysolutions.co.uk/shop/ols/products/207-4301

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@dominicdodd9759 add the connectors and it's £25 when you can get a good wiring center for less than £10

[@dominicdodd9759]

@@acelectricalsecurity That's true - Salus do one for about a tenner. However - for me, personally - I prefer Wago over screw terminals. I think they are quicker and more 'accurate' - and should be maintenance free. I'm willing to pay £15 extra for that, and knowing if I come back to it, making changes and upgrades is going to be that much easier. The downside of Wago connectors over screw terminals is when it comes to testing - the test ports are impossible to get to without removing the G38 tips. Horse for courses ...

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@dominicdodd9759 Yeah true, without doubt push connectors are quicker, and i use them but its a shame they are so expensive compared with connectors, and there lies the problem with products designed to save labour. I get the impression from manufacturers they think this product will save time so we can up the cost, to me if they are trying to replace an existing product, the new product needs to be better and similar cost to whats currently being used, but thats not the case. If their new products were the same price then in a short time they would replace the product they are trying to replace.

[@londontrada]

Am I the only person in the world that just uses Wagos in a adaptable box?

[@efixx]

We love an adaptable box 👍

[@raychambers3646]

Just did that in the loft.

[@petermichaelgreen]

It's a shame that the wago 221 blocks stop at 5 conductors. A product like this is crying out for a bigger block to join the earths. There is also the question of how much this will cost and how readily available it will be. A quick google finds only one supplier and they want £18.50 for it. It's not clear to me if that price is ex or inc VAT, but either way it's IMO too much for an empty box.

[@efixx]

We’ve also found it online for £18.50 inc VAT. If you compare this to a 10 way Honeywell Unit (20 connection points) £9.00 - IMO you would save the difference in time on a large system of UFH or S-Plan plus.

[@CurvedSlightly]

I thought you were dead? If you're in heaven, can you ask God if you are better on guitar than him?

[@DerekHundik]

what is this box for if any1 can advise. I've been on different building sites and never came across the need for such a box .

[@efixx]

It’s used in the central heating system on homes with underfloor heating or boiler with hot water tank.

[@DerekHundik]

@@efixx you mean dry UFH systems. Could you point to the video or diagram when such a box is use. Cheers

[@SME_Ste]

Howdy derk, you’ll probably never see this on a site as prices are that tight they aren’t going to be used,

[@nigelcharteris2950]

I have been quoted £14.75 + VAT a piece.

[@brotheradam]

I love the wago products but I have found one slight drawback- I often need up to eight ports for grounds here in Jamaica.. but prefer the wago lever nut option rather than the other options..just seems easier to troubleshoot. Ran into the products in UK. I am doing loads of Conduit wiring so-- loads of wire pulling.. but a mix of NEC rules here combined with UK standards parts--lol

[@brotheradam]

also wished they did what some of the replica companies already have- a three port lever plug that is the three seperate colors-- actually would love a four port option- Ground, Neutral, Live one and Live 2, as I do a load of Cieling fan light systems- 2 switches or a switch and fan slider-- lol.. So having those in the ceiling box location since cielings are concrete. Most of the UK and USA options like quickwire do not easily fit in an octagon or 4 square box

[@millomweb]

I'm not watching this video - but just want to say that if I was looking for a junction box, I'd want one where there are terminals together for each device - not all the neutrals together, CPC together etc. LNESW - zone 1 LNESW - zone 2 etc.

[@ianbowie2015]

Am I missing it ? I think that you stated 60 connection points . My count is 51 (17 x 3) Do you install 5 ways overlapping outside the area? I notice that the diagram shows 60 positions but this varies depending on the mix of 221s

[@christophermaddams3723]

OK for a new installation, no good if cables are not coming from bottom only, and on an upgrade for whatever reason. Properly cost an arm and a leg.

[@baldyray448]

Only one side for cable enter ,not very practical in a lot of domestic installations , trust me

[@davey6024]

Thats mess, can't believe you used that as a sales example.

[@neilburton100]

It must just be me, but I bought one of these and had to practically wreck it to get it open the first time. Really poor design.