Kind of a big deal....you did a world's first (we assume outside of Ford who isn't showing their dyno procedure and test results to the public). Important video and well done!
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thank you for checking it out 🤘
@TC-kf9zw2 жыл бұрын
Ford probably didn't dyno the actual truck, just the electric motors in the lab etc and then put the numbers on the production vehicle....
@turboman20192 жыл бұрын
564.9 hp and 784 pound feet of torque to the wheels is impressive.
@Pilot5452 жыл бұрын
Agreed. IF we apply those numbers to an ICE vehicle and use a nominal 12% drivetrain loss, it would be about 640 hp/890 lb-ft at the crank. Very impressive!
@Pilot5452 жыл бұрын
@@PedroKing99 Only what Ford is advertising as the official EPA numbers. Anywhere from 230 to 320 miles on a charge depending on which model and battery pack you get. For the charge question I assume you mean how long to recharge. That truly depends on the charger you’re at. Not sure what Ford says about home charging with their charging panel they offer.
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty difficult to compare area under the curve given the x-axis is speed not RPM. I'm actually kind of disappointed the numbers were so peaky.
@brandonrobertson63272 жыл бұрын
@@PedroKing99 TFL did a 6k lbs trailer pull. Range was a mere 86 miles if my memory is correct. I think petroleum will still be king for a long time to come.
@JonDecker2 жыл бұрын
@@PedroKing99 10.5kw lvl2 or 150kw lvl3 continual rates with 98kw and 131kw batteries. Lvl2 = 8-10hrs full cycle. Lvl3 = 30-45 min 10%-80% Vehicle averages 2.3miles per KW at 70mph
@DynocomNet2 жыл бұрын
This was a great learning opportunity exciting times thanks again !
@carculturenation21662 жыл бұрын
did he say dyno jet came in clutch at the end of the video lol tgats what it sounded like
@DynocomNet2 жыл бұрын
@@carculturenation2166 welp to error is human lol
@jamesg60712 жыл бұрын
Awesome always cool to see new things being tested
@snakerb2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the first time I’ve ever clicked on a “AD” video suggested by KZbin. Glad I did. Really enjoyed this video.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for clicking! Glad you enjoyed it.
@oscarore55202 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! Loved hearing the EV noise on those rollers.
@jefffawcett16262 жыл бұрын
Ford has really stepped out and produced a really cool truck.... BUT they're "unobtainium" given the current supply/demand environment and quite expensive too. I'm less than 1 year since my new truck purchase ('22 GMC Sierra AT4) so I've got time to see if these challenges sort themselves out before considering a change. Holy Smokes, what a powerful truck!
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Amen, all around!
@Dularr2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see where the LFP battery Lightning ends up. See if Ford can mass produce LFP batteries at a low cost.
@brucewachtman34952 жыл бұрын
If I’ve learned anything from this whole ev “announcement” thing, it’s that if you’re interested in any ev that is coming out, put a reservation on it and any others that you might be interested in as soon as possible after the big unveiling. I made the mistake of waiting til the next morning after they announced the Lightning. They were sold out of Pro and XLT models by the time I got called to order. Ford was nice enough to extend the 2022 pricing on 2023 Lightnings for reservation holders that got passed over. I’m hoping to get my truck only a year and a half after I placed my res. Order early and often.
@providentpathfinders2192 жыл бұрын
I want one but i’ll happily wait for Solid State Batteries.
@freebehindbars86542 жыл бұрын
@@brucewachtman3495 you’ll need to stop early and often to recharge, that is if you plan on actually using this as a truck and towing something. Can’t remember, but it was like 60-80 mile range towing a trailer well under max.
@rod928s42 жыл бұрын
What a dynamite little package...and the F150 was cool too!
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
Wow that really highlights the difference between ICE's and EV's. Insane initial torque, falling off quickly and running out of steam up top. I bet a 13 sec car would walk away from it if the race started at 80 lol
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
That’s just it. The EV punch falls off in most of them. Not that it’s a bad thing. Just a stark difference between ice and EV.
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel Absolutely. This absolutely has its applications. A drive unit like that would be great in a great tow vehicle. There's a reason EV's aren't king of TX2K. There seems to be a bit of a disconnect with the average consumer and even some enthusiasts. They'll see a horsepower figure and apply it to the road like it's an ICE then scratch their heads when they get blown up by a Civic hatchback on the highway. Pretty funny.
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
@Big Paw Fair. I’m crazy 🤷🏻♂ Tesla owners get upset when my POS Civic hatch leaves them for dead on the highway.
@WhatsThatsmell692 жыл бұрын
Even without the EV’s high speed efficiency loss it’s a 6,600lbs truck with the drag coefficient of a house and a 110mph top speed…so, no shit!
@WhatsThatsmell692 жыл бұрын
@@RollingRoadEFI unless you’re running 200+whp then a good majority of even the lower end trim model Tesla’s would destroy you to 120!
@jamesengland74612 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Tesla Model S Plaid on this dyno!
@MortonsontheMove2 жыл бұрын
Great job with the video! EVs and ICE really are apples and oranges and we shouldn't even try to fit them in the same box. I think MPGe And HP are useless. Let's get Kw and MPkWh. Run Kw against the vehicles draw and you can see efficiencies too. That would be an interesting test to pull battery Kw vs output and take a look at losses compared to say Tesla. Then take a look at charging efficiency to calc whole system loss. We're only scratching the surface of a whole new generation of drivetrains and it's super exciting. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these trucks and start tinkering.
@Pilot5452 жыл бұрын
Agreed. We need some metric that normalized the data between the two. Loved this vid! Def exciting to be living on the cusp of a new transportation technology…regardless of one’s views on whether or not we are ready for it.
@dbwater51542 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of new E companies entering the industry now. Plus the big players of the past makign EVs, I think it'll only be time before you wish comes true. IF not for the science end, the marketing end! They will all need something to brag about, but it has to be something the customer can understand easily. And as this is a new segment, saying its got 567EHP's (or whatever) isnt going to compare easily to the ICE market.
@kingshawn18572 жыл бұрын
Now I beg you do an AWD Dyno with a TRX please
@PrinzII2 жыл бұрын
Now, I really want one of these.
@richweber19892 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to buy one so Cali can tell me not to charge it. 🙃
@ManuelGomez-mp7bc2 жыл бұрын
I could feel the g force through the video
@jamesherrera69732 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that’s power and it’s fast 💨
@nyplantings2420 Жыл бұрын
I am sharing this for the dyno company. Good stuff.
@rackemwells2 жыл бұрын
Man, all that torque should be great for towing a small trailer roughly 80 miles…
@MegaErnieMAN2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@allscanengineering6102 жыл бұрын
I know what a joke.
@rico-outdoors9702 жыл бұрын
Yep
@TC-kf9zw2 жыл бұрын
You can tow 10k probably about 150 mile or so depending on a few factors....the extended battery pack is 300+ mpc... As of right now electric trucks aren't for serious towing, but in 5 to 10 years they will out perform all trucks including commercial....
@chrs12122 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, these EV's are in their infant stages, ICEngines have had over 110 years to perfect and innovative.
@bobbinatorrah67 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of like the space ship testing in the hanger scene in Independence Day. What an impressive setup!
@_D.I.G_2 жыл бұрын
NOW USE THE DYNO TO CHARGE THE LIGHTENING
@catmando49142 жыл бұрын
I'm super impressed at how much HP and Torque are at the wheels. The Dyno is scary, the straps holding the truck down are also impressive.
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
You were? Did you see how long that HP and TQ lasted? Not very long lol.
@Topgun127762 жыл бұрын
New subscriber, because of this video. If I ever get an electric truck, it will be one of these. I want a Tesla car for the efficiency, but this is just like the F-150 we all know and love, but better! Cool dyno and company also.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for joining us, and you nailed it, the f150 bits are not lost here, and we love it for that. Also Dynocom rocks!
@satanpuncher062 жыл бұрын
Same here. I don’t want a Tesla at all but I really want a lightning (once there’s enough of them that dealer markups aren’t a huge thing). I love my 5.0 150
@yellowlabdavis71702 жыл бұрын
Government- we give you a 7500 dollar EV credit. Ford- raises the price of this vehicle 8500 dollars!!!
@Josh-1792 жыл бұрын
The Lightning already had the ongoing tax credit. The price increase is just the sad reality of material and supply cost going way up just like everything this past year.
@USMC-19112 жыл бұрын
This is fine for a grocery getter but when you use your truck for a living loaded with gear the miles will go way down the battery life will probably be lower and we are not making money charging 3 times a day this is not ready for the real world on top of that we are in a recession with no end in sight I think these car companies are going to lose their butts they jumped in with both feet to replace our vehicles would cost our company everything we made that year the numbers just dont work who cares how fast it is we need milage .
@xxZerosumxx2 жыл бұрын
@@USMC-1911 Lame.
@djquick2 жыл бұрын
That’s a hot little setup. The Dyno is also.
@ElectricGlider20162 жыл бұрын
Great to see this on a dyno! Looking forward if any future EV truck might have a transmission like what the Porsche Taycan has.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@williamsmallwood88462 жыл бұрын
So unlike the Mach-E it doesn’t start pulling power at speed it just goes wide open
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
It absolutely rips to the end.
@williamsmallwood88462 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel I have 2 more months of waiting till it gets here. I need to hurry so they stop deleting options on me!
@robbetts2 жыл бұрын
God Damn! That thing must be a blast to drive.
@james107392 жыл бұрын
Damn with her standing there he said dyno jet
@prenticevaughn19962 жыл бұрын
Great video really enjoyed it thank you
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 👍🏼. We appreciate you checking it out.
@24k_purplelove522 жыл бұрын
idk if its me but I know these evs dont make noise but it sound sick when dyno'd, along with it almost trying to escape the dyno
@TC-kf9zw2 жыл бұрын
The HP is based on what the electric motors do outside of the truck, meaning the are rated by design and testing in the lab etc..
@GarterBeltsGasoline2 жыл бұрын
great video, I love ICE Motors but this is very interesting
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and thanks!
@Superthecod2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!! They are 10 minutes from me!
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Likewise! Dynocom was awesome to work with.
@mikeisabella45392 жыл бұрын
As a long time ford owner and currently own 3, the lightning is far from being a daily or practical truck. it's fun and fast but not worth it in the long haul. I recommend looking up the story about the Chevy Volt owner that went to a dealer to get their replacement battery. 30,000 dollars how is that saving money after 70k miles driven. We are about a good 10 years before the EV world will be anywhere near practical. The real focus should be hydrogen powered vehicles.
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
Because people aren't very smart, and they prove it every single day by not thinking beyond step 1.
@MrStaybrown2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@xxZerosumxx2 жыл бұрын
You say we are a good 10 years before the EV world will be practical. So how do we get there? Magically? We have to start somewhere and iron out all the issues. People who are buying these EV's are called early adopters. Thanks to them you will have your EV truck just like you want it in 10 years. Stop being a downer. If you dont like this, move along. Because even if you dont like it, your children will be driving EV's.
@MrStaybrown2 жыл бұрын
Lithium mining is still done by diesel machinery and a cleaning process that has hazardous waste byproducts that sit in open pools forever with wildlife unknowingly use..but EV,'s are green. 🤔
@RollingRoadEFI2 жыл бұрын
@@xxZerosumxx The guy wrote absolute truth, a truth that you appear to not like. Take your own advice and stop being a downer, if you don’t like it you too can move alone. Funny how you only applied that to others when you yourself came here to inject something that wasn’t wanted. Early adapters? Also known as fools with their money. So how do we get there? Well I’ll tell you how we’re not going to get there. We’re not getting there with an old and outdated power grid! Y’know, the thing that provides all the chemical potential energy required for EV’s to do the V part? Why do you think CA is experiencing scheduled rolling blackouts? EV’s, you simpleton. Lol 🤦🏻♂
@joshualhughes27782 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a test of pulling, rvs, boats, trailers, you know the stuff we use a truck for, and not just flat land, in the mountains, in the heat of the day.
@jasongilbert23792 жыл бұрын
TFL You tube channel did a test going to Alaska I believe
@jbaker88712 жыл бұрын
So dyno is pretty accurate. You cant modify your Ev. How fun we can all have the same vehicle. Exciting times.
@nordic54902 жыл бұрын
It is illegal to modify your ice. And, yes, you can modify an ev.
@davidk52422 жыл бұрын
What an odd and silly thing to complain about. But whatever makes you happy I suppose
@akshonclip2 жыл бұрын
@@davidk5242 You suppose? We are so grateful to have your approval to make ourselves happy. 🙄
@Az-co4pq2 жыл бұрын
Told my husband to at least consider getting the Ford Lightning, but his mind is set on the Ford Bronco Sasquatch, even with all the delays - 2023. I’m still working on it 😅
@philippelarocque42072 жыл бұрын
Love it, always cool to be first!
@nevertoolate4503 ай бұрын
can your dyno results show torque and power from front and rear axles separately ? If Yes then what is the results of power and torque?
@TexasTruckChannel3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it cannot. The dyno measures total combined power.
@jimjawz2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! Makes the lightning look silly compared to less managed vehicles , i feel. Not impressed with Ford but Blown away by you guys!! Awesome viddy
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks!
@blakef Жыл бұрын
Curious, What gear ratios did you input for the transmission to arrive at the numbers?
@TexasTruckChannel Жыл бұрын
We calculated that the lightning has a 2:1 ratio in each motor.
@rzjk3012 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rgeraldalexander42782 жыл бұрын
Impressive numbers.
@dbwater51542 жыл бұрын
Id like to see the Electric Hoonigan on here!
@SolveFixBuild2 жыл бұрын
Very cool - interesting problem solving
@EatMyPropwash2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Dynocom was in Texas…. Shoot I’m in Northlake. They’re 30 minutes away. Lol.
@84corvan2 жыл бұрын
Like to see you run a rivian
@SterlingSigurdsen2 жыл бұрын
Well at least we know where the profits are going with this company's dyno runs.
@clayed2 жыл бұрын
This company sells dynos. Her improvements are pocket change.
@yodasbff33952 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiments. 👍
@gsc019722 жыл бұрын
Most people and companies buy the f150 to do work like tow or haul ....Do a test on that...Mass vs Distance on full charge
@AlanDavid19552 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU , THEY SAY THE LIGHTNING WITH THE STANDARD BATTERY IS FASTER ?
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
In our personal testing, the pro with standard range battery (and 18” wheels instead of these heavy 22” wheels) was 3.95 to 60 verses the 4.2 that this truck resulted in.
@mandov59162 жыл бұрын
Quicker to 60 but LR takes off and beats it to the 1/4 by like a second
@Oddman19802 жыл бұрын
Is that the truck making that noise or the dyno?
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Mostly the dyno, but partially the Lightning.
@Oddman19802 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel Aww, I was hoping the truck made all that racket. If they would make an XL trim of the lighting I'd be all over it.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
They have the pro trim which effectively is the XL trim found on gas models.
@thetalkingboard2 жыл бұрын
How many times did you have to charge it for these pulls? And can you leave it plugged in while pulling?
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t charge it at all. We ran it all day and used a whopping 6% of the battery.
@crazystuff57702 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel don't tell them that, the EV haters will get mad lolol
@elmedia15322 жыл бұрын
Man, i'm about to go to wall greens on my Challenger Hellcat, eff Ford!
@AverageOverlander2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if you can gain more power “safely” editing forscan
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Now that is a great question!
@mattbrew112 жыл бұрын
No
@jeffbraden782 жыл бұрын
Seen someone share that this truck towed a wake board boat at full charge and got a whopping 49 miles before batteries died?....
@TC-kf9zw2 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't you physically disconnect the rear or front electric motors?
@Pablo-cp9nc2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Nice truck too.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@travisewy6922 жыл бұрын
It does seem cool. It's got power and I am all diesel guy so I'm trying not to knock this by being stupid in the comments, but one thing that I can't get past is the range. It does seem awesome performance wise, no doubt. But for a truck that's supposed to tow and haul, it's like having a dragster with a two gallon tank. They both provide 580 hp and are quick and are awesome performing machines. But with a two gallon tank you don't see too many dragsters used to tow and daily drive. Electric is great but the batteries need to be better for total practical "truck" use. Cars not bad, but electric cars still won't hold a candle to a diesel manual trans jetta, in cost of purchase........ key maintenance (battery vs diesel particulate filter) ..... total emissions (power generation and lithium mining included vs refining crude to diesel)..... at 5 dollars per gallon of diesel, yeah electric wins for per mile driving and honestly I hope it does but for now all considering, diesel. Would love to hear some thoughts, thanks friends
@dennissmith72142 жыл бұрын
Just like in the real world MOST trucks won’t be towing at all or that much that range will matter much, move EV owners like myself charge at home overnight(I’ve never used public chargers in over 3 years😳)……so that’s a non issues for the majority, just like it was shown on TFL truck the lightning will out tow even a 2500 deisel ram every day of the week without a sweat and at a significantly lower price and with a 10th of the maintenance problems ! There is almost nothing except long range towing that an ice rig will outperform and sumularly sized EV. Face it it’s only you few guys that tow long range or more than once or twice a month that have the same tired comment complaint, we get it it’s new to you guys but it’s the future and just like a horse and buggy the ice engines outdated methods are of the past! 🤷🏽♂️
@4literv62 жыл бұрын
Interesting, your diesel requires cobalt water and electricity for every single gallon of diesel it burns. Cobalt and lithium in the battery is also required to run it and lithium in the very metals it's made from. Urea for the def injection fluid is also mined for. Diesels burn billions of gallons of that stuff each year. No ev requires it. Your diesel also has unhealthy particulate emissions an ev does not produce period, noise an ev doesn't make which is also considered to be a form of pollution. Gives off terrible smells no ev does, smells which cause headaches lung issues and Nausea for some people. Gives off a lot of heat an ev does not make as ice vehicle's routinely exhaust 220° or hotter air while running. They are just big noisy inefficient air pumps after all. Sucking in massive amounts of air, squishing it, squirting in diesel, blowing it up and out the tailpipe. Ice require tune ups and use many manu parts evs just don't have, evs also do not require belts hoses or many various fluids and fluid flushes that every single ice made requires just to function. Evs don't require oil changes, here in the U.S. we do over 420,000,000 oil changes each year. 27,000+small businesses exist just to do oil changes. 160,000+tons of wasted steel just in the filters themselves. Less than 60% of oil is recycled and even when recycled it uses more energy and water. At a very inefficient rate of 1 gallon waste oil to 2.5 quarts of recycled resellable oil. Which then has to be packaged and transported again causing more wasted energy and pollution. Evs don't have engine air filters, fuel filters, spark plugs, coil pack's, don't have transmissions which need fluids and rebuilding/replacement. Just simple single speed reduction drive sealed gearboxes. Evs don't use any catalytic converters which are made by the hundreds of millions each year and require mining btw. Cats use platinum metals in the catalysts itself(hence why they are stolen and cut off people's stationary car's n trucks by the thousands each year. Brakes last up to 3x longer so a lot less waste there. Plus the recovered energy form regen braking which is wasted in every ice vehicle. I could keep going but maybe this will give you some research to do? 🤔
@travisewy6922 жыл бұрын
@@4literv6 not bad. But a few flaws I would say. Def isn't mined. It's a synthetic compound of ammonia and carbon dioxide. Synthetic meaning man made. And the catalytic converters you mentioned with the precious metals, are not installed on diesels. They have a SCR. Selective catalyst reduction. Way different metals and yes still mined, but way more abundant. And all of that other stuff you mentioned, sounds like your taking the ev just by itself and not thinking of the non emission regulated older diesels in the mining equipment that mines for the lithium for the batteries or pending on where you live the carbon footprint of the electricity to charge the damn ev. And where is there cobalt water in diesel, I ain't saying your wrong just never heard of this in automotive, semi truck and rail road experience of 20 years. And x3 the brake life....... that's just reaching for shit at that point
@lesstevens23702 жыл бұрын
@@travisewy692 rc18 is right about the brakes seen many evs mainly teslas because they have been out the longest have seized brakes because they where never used because of the regenerative motors yes your point of the energy to charge evs is moot compared to the energy requirements to drill and refine and transport oil and fuel....electricity travels 98% the speed of light the second you make it anywhere in the world if you have power lines it would be charging your batteries with evs we are eliminating tons of waste but by the sounds of it your a climate denier probably live some where you can't notice it but you will give it time... but then it will be to late people like you only think about now and themselves even if it means the future generations get fu#ked
@mattbrew112 жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214 MOST owners of trucks do tow. Maybe not every day but MOST trucks do in fact tow
@lourdesraupe38242 жыл бұрын
Very interesting 🧐
@carlosg11652 жыл бұрын
Great numbers 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@jza80king2 жыл бұрын
@9:40 for numbers
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
It’s marked in the episode chapter as well.
@jamesmanxbuggy2 жыл бұрын
If they can significantly improve the towing range I would buy one! I love the idea of never going to a gas pump again just for the convenience but unfortunately I tow about twice a month on average and every time I tow it’s further than this trucks towing range
@michaelace47392 жыл бұрын
Charge time is ridiculous and towing range is not good it all. Gas engines is the way to go for now.
@augsu2 жыл бұрын
What are you towing and how far?
@jasonvandervalk36792 жыл бұрын
belts make alot of noise?
@JHKY15172 жыл бұрын
Imperial? PURA VIDA!
@risbill12 жыл бұрын
Looks good on paper but I need to tow and tests have shown this vehicle fails at that due to poor range.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Totally. If you tow regularly, you need to stick with internal combustion.
@timmbos2 жыл бұрын
So how much is a replacement battery? And how many people will be lined up to buy this in the used market once the battery warranty has expired??
@augsu2 жыл бұрын
People keep saying battery replacement, like its a thing. EVs have battery modules that cost around 5k. The idea of all modules failing at the same time is pretty far fetched. I doubt if an EV has ever needed all modules replaced without some contributing factor like a flood or a crash.
@timmbos2 жыл бұрын
@@augsu get educated. I have been in municipal fleet management for 30 years. I work with facts and multi million dollar budgets...not feelings.
@augsu2 жыл бұрын
@@timmbos Then you really need to do your research. I run a fleet too, and the day I can replace my trucks with EV's I will, it's a no brainer. I have a Cybertruck ordered to see if it really is a class 3 truck and I own a 2012 Smith Newton class 6 truck, you are no doubt educated about the Smith? Never heard of it? Why am I not surprised, oh yeah, your stupid "replacement" question, friggin noobs!
@xxZerosumxx2 жыл бұрын
@@timmbos Who care where you think you work. There are teslas that with over 300k miles still out and about. These aren't your typical cell phone batteries. Educate yourself before looking like fool on the comment section.
@dublewis5472 жыл бұрын
Good video , learned a lot , the lady was killing me tryin to sale the product I’d be cool with just information thanks 🙏
@opossom19682 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ford for proving a EV Truck is not going to be a viable option. If i cant hitch my boat and go fishing without wondering if my truck has the range. Then i will stick with my F150 5.0 at least it is tunable to run on E85. 😎
@noneyacabbage2 жыл бұрын
My question is how can you figure HP when you don't have an RPM? Further, why not use hub dynos so you could do full throttle?
@beardedforlife37402 жыл бұрын
When it comes to electric motors you don't use rpm in the equation to calculate horsepower
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Great question, we had to make gear ration calculations to calculate motor rpm. This is why we had several hours of calibration runs prior to accurate testing. We initially chased the hub dyno method but the experts at dynocom were quick to let us know that hud dynos would not support the weight and tq of this EV. This is why they modified an existing in ground dyno setup.
@beardedforlife37402 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel maybe not the vehicle weight but they'd definitely handle the torque
@shaynegadsden2 жыл бұрын
Because you are doing wheel power the roller has a speed sensor and is a known size that is the only info needed it doesn't matter what type power train is used
@noneyacabbage2 жыл бұрын
That's not how HP is calculated@@shaynegadsden
@allenallen50052 жыл бұрын
So great power but an extremely low distance that you can use that power especially to tow any kind of weight.
@kevinmiller35492 жыл бұрын
I need to tow my excavator how far can I go?
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
According to the internet… 3 feet. 😬
@USMC-19112 жыл бұрын
Exactly they dont ever mention the people who use their trucks for work we would loose everything we have in one season, big no !
@salvatorehayes27532 жыл бұрын
At First I Thought Ford Put An Anti Dyno Strategy That Would Reduce Power If Irrational YAW Sensor Reading Was Registered (no movement) In Relation To Power Demand. But It Was Just Not Enough Dyno Load lol.
@suzabakingbaked79752 жыл бұрын
What in the world is an ice motor?
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Internal combustion engine
@suzabakingbaked79752 жыл бұрын
@@TexasTruckChannel I was be sarcastic. I've never heard it called that.
@tonymusolino23692 жыл бұрын
I really dont see the point of this expensive equipment. Since there shouldn’t be any exaust to deal with. Can someone enlighten me please, so i can at least understand the need, even a little bit. Always willing to learn.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Just so I can understand the question better. What equipment are you referring too? The truck or the dyno?
@christiancampbell35232 жыл бұрын
I mean next to the commercials saying free solar panels... When in fact it's false... Just like the it's just pay Shipping and handling which is more than the product is even worth 😂😂😂.
@stacksmasher2 жыл бұрын
Not one comment about the "Elephants" in the room? lol!
@IMGONEIN602 жыл бұрын
Awesome video let me know if you guys ever come near San Antonio I have a bronco and a maverick, maybe we can collaborate👍🏽👍🏽
@mikekuhnkey72312 жыл бұрын
198 mph that's really useful.....
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
We didn’t get anywhere near 198mph…
@frankcoffey2 жыл бұрын
Hey where is the giant fan... oh.. nevermind. 😁
@carculturenation21662 жыл бұрын
so wait was it dynojet that came in clutch to do this? because thats what it sounded like you said at the end of the video.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Please pardon my mumbles, it was Dynocom 💯
@samuelfonseca63672 жыл бұрын
Mae, how come you have an Imperial logo in your garage? 😉
@JimmyZ4082 жыл бұрын
Sorry, EV's do nothing for me. 220 Mile range for a F150, big thumbs down. Wait till that battery needs replacing, good luck. Sweet Dyno though!
@supporterofsanity2 жыл бұрын
Could they make it a little less powerful but go further on a charge and charge quicker. I don’t need this much power but I need to tow.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
We think that alot of buyers would prefer this as an option.
@alexmoravec81072 жыл бұрын
The amount of power that the motors use is directly related to the load on the vehicle. Unlike ICE vehicles, where a 500hp engine would use more fuel than a 200hp engine, with EV's a less powerful motor will not help improve efficiency. Meaning if you're cruising at 60mph with a trailer, a 250kW motor will be using the same amount of power as a 150kW motor would.
@jamesengland74612 жыл бұрын
The power when you need it is basically free because the battery is so big and it can output the power. Range is all up to your right foot.
@jepito292 жыл бұрын
Ford installed a potentiometer that the driver can use to control how much power is used. I believe it’s on the drivers side floor we’re your right foot sits
@jamesengland74612 жыл бұрын
@@jepito29 brilliant description!
@MidwestMechanics2 жыл бұрын
So essentially this truck is very comparable power wise to my Chevy 2500HD LB7 Duramax? 😳
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@mattbrew112 жыл бұрын
Much more hp to the wheels
@eddiespagetti83952 жыл бұрын
More torque and hp than Chevy crap durasmacks
@MrPhatties2 жыл бұрын
This video was about 10 minutes longer than it needed to be... 7:40
@RaymondCHowes2 жыл бұрын
I want to see someone take it thru the mud. Do some 4wheeling with it. At least take it up to the doors in water....imagine the winters up north with snow and salt on the road. Be real interesting. I mean...it is a truck.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
We have a hill climb and break over angle test video on it. But no mud, we were several months without rain.
@javiercalderon30722 жыл бұрын
For a first gen ev lightning this isnt that bad, im sure soon we will get one with more power and higher range close to what a ecoboost f150 gives, until then i will wait to get 1 hopefully by then we can buy directly from ford and not markup hungry dealers.
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. We will also add that over 560/780 at the wheels. Those are great numbers.
@michaelbamber48872 жыл бұрын
Eh, what specs are you reading? A 2022 3.5 f150 eco boost only makes 400 hp an 500ft. The electric blow it into the weeds.
@Team_Trade_Down2 жыл бұрын
There are pluses and minuses to everything. If you haven’t ridden in a Lightning yet, and done a 0-60, you just can’t believe the torque. Or how smooth it rides, corners. If you need to tow, buy a F250
@james107392 жыл бұрын
Maybe the shaft is less maintenance or stronger but you have to turn the power 90° with gears twice so it has to be less efficient
@sjwilson10792 жыл бұрын
Uhhh, no because the torque is direct and immediate
@james107392 жыл бұрын
@@sjwilson1079 uhhh the torque would just as direct and immediate with a belt not sure how you are disputing that
@saleens3302 жыл бұрын
All that power and torque…but not worth a damn when you tow and can only go 80 miles till it needs a charge. Hard pass.
@VS-TheWorld2 жыл бұрын
when someone figures out how to cut power to the 2 front wheels ... which i think should result in better battery range? LET'S GET IT!
@xymaryai82832 жыл бұрын
you did show us the graphs, but they're a little hard to make sense of. peak numbers don't mean much except for ideal conditions, i'm far more curious about the behavior of the power. great video though, informative insanity ahahaha
@nordic54902 жыл бұрын
The torque area under the curve (actual driving) is far superiour to ice
@MartinAguilar2132 жыл бұрын
What's really crazy and people don't think about is that after a few years these EV cars and trucks will be giant paper weights. Batteries drain over time. Imagine going to try and sell or buy a used EV truck. Just like a cell phone . Every charge and discharge is wear and tear on the battery. You will never get a real 100% full charge out of a used EV.
@mattbrew112 жыл бұрын
Whats even crazier than that is the motors will run 750k+ miles without maintenance so essentially a $22k battery replacement at 350k will get you an otherwise brand new truck and the old battery can still power your home another 10+ years.
@heathwirt89192 жыл бұрын
Right, but it makes you wonder why junkyards are filled with gasoline powered vehicles which you're implying last forever.
@MartinAguilar2132 жыл бұрын
@@heathwirt8919 no not at all implying that. And if you look, junkyards are full off vehicles with body damage, but perfectly running engines. Insurance companies will consider a vehicle a total loss just because of frame or body damage when the engine and transmission are still running strong.
@MartinAguilar2132 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrew11 is that what is says in the brochure? Or have you seen it first hand? If what you say is true , then heck yeah I'm all for it!
@mattbrew112 жыл бұрын
@@MartinAguilar213 I own a very large solar company and we are working with ford to install chargers. One of their engineers told me the motors are built to last as long as the Al body will and we already upcycle batteries from Cars to homes. Mostly nissan and chevy volt units
@VERITASPUREBLOOD2 жыл бұрын
exactly the noise my wife's vacuum makes, wheird
@markd95802 жыл бұрын
Ev isn’t meant for the cold climate of Canada. Winters would kill that battery more quickly and with no engine, that weight loss up front would make it harder to steer on snowy roads
@ElectricGlider20162 жыл бұрын
Take it from Norway which has the highest number of EVs on the road in just as cold climates where they have been just fine. And handling in an EV is much better since all the heavy weight is distributed throughout the entire length of the vehicle and software can instantly manage power between the forward and rear wheels. No need for an LSD. Please go actually drive a 4 wheel drive EV in the winter to actually experience it before assuming it's somehow worse than your typical car.
@markd95802 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricGlider2016 I’d love to have a Ford Lightening. There isn’t that many charging stations around yet. We’re still a few years away from that but it’s something that I’d love to try.
@EL-FUKKO2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Let me ask where or how I can recharge this vehicle, or any electric vehicle when I am 500km from any city in the middle of Australia towing my boat or caravan on holiday
@richardsimmons65262 жыл бұрын
A ev truck is made for city people. It's gonna be another 10 plus years before we get the range and charge time that is needed for a work truck. This truck sucks for range towing.
@jerrythechainsawguy810010 ай бұрын
Anyone else read the graphs and see it starts dramatically making less power over 60mph?
@jerrythechainsawguy810010 ай бұрын
About 500hp and 500ft lb over 80mph and dropping like a rock
@TexasTruckChannel10 ай бұрын
We resolved this by adding resistance to the dyno rollers. That power drop on the first few runs were due to the traction control system thinking all 4 wheels had low traction.
@scottrussell67172 жыл бұрын
In real world to get that hp pulling bet the battery drops like a rock
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure. Just like running wide open throttle on a gas F150… that fuel gauge will drop like a rock.
@likebike88902 жыл бұрын
How about doing the same with Rivian R1T
@TexasTruckChannel2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, we are chasing that down. 👍🏼
@AZRckt2 жыл бұрын
This will be interesting. I saw a drag race between the R1T and a TRX. The R1T dominated and the driver let off. Can’t wait to see the numbers.