Excommunicated in the Catholic Church?

What does the Church mean by excommunication? How does it work?
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[@serardin6661]

Father Casey, by explaining to us what actions cause excommunication you just made us all liable to excommunication! Now all I can do is try to forget! :)

[@MM22272]

Liable to be responsible based on truth - what a blessing!

[@dvdortiz9031]

The Truth will set you free, 1 Timothy 3:15!!!! Will never be destroyed, Acts 5:38-39

[@dvdortiz9031]

@@MM22272 excellent!!!

[@pan_nekdo]

Or you can change church. The Latin church is the only church that uses latae sententiae excommunication. There is no action that would lead to it in the CCEO (Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches).

[@TheLonestarofTexas]

@@pan_nekdo it’s fitting that the Catholic Church would be the only one that has this, because it just adds yet another reason to the list of many that makes it distinct from any other, chief among those reasons being that the Catholic Church is the only church, founded by our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ himself.

[@danadams8857]

As a relative new Catholic, I greatly appreciate your videos. You're way too young to be so articulate and knowledgeable. LOL

[@raggedyman2257]

I am pulled inexorably... home.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

@@Call_Upon_YAH “ Catholics” invented the Bible. You’re welcome.

[@winstoncottage344]

@@Call_Upon_YAH Since when did reading the road code equate to driving the car? You have much to learn grasshopper...

[@jimgriffin9924]

@@Call_Upon_YAH You are so wrong in s many ways. Starting off with Mary. Catholics don't worship her. We venerate her as the Mother of God (Jesus) and ask for her intercession.

[@eddyrobichaud5832]

​@jimgriffin9924 1 Timothy 2:5. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, from your mouth you say you don't worship but in gestures you do what you do in action comes from the heart.

[@Danny_Boy2023]

I'm not a Catholic, but this had cleared up some misconceptions I have had about excommunication.

[@dvdortiz9031]

You just saw the tip of the iceberg!!! There is a treasure hidden waiting for you to discover!!!

[@TheMichaelMonroeDoctrine]

My Nana was excommunicated back in the 60s. She still brought us to the church.

[@dvdortiz9031]

She understood that it was 'her personal' thing, nothing else

[@russellmiles2861]

Your Nana? I find that hard to believe Who would care what anyone's Nana thought or did. The church doesn't even excommunicate priests

[@johnsteila6049]

@@russellmiles2861 If a baptized Catholic doesn’t receive The Eucharist for over a year, they are excommunicated.

[@russellmiles2861]

@@johnsteila6049 really. Wouldn't that be a lot of effort...

[@stevebrown8368]

I knew someone who’s mom was divorced from an abusive❤husband for years and in those days women almost had to be married to make still went to mass. How unfair

[@eleat]

As a Non--Denominational Protestant who finally understands the Catholic Faith. It brings me joy that I can consider the Catholics my brothers and sisters in Christ. My former distain for the Catholic faith came from when I was in middle school. I had a teacher who became a Protestant but she was a raised Catholic. She had issues with the Catholic faith (I'm not aware of what those issues are) that didn't seem to sit well with her so she switched denominations. But the most important thing she said was that there are still Catholics who are saved. And recently it hit me. A Christian is not saved by their denomination. We are saved by Christ! A Baptist has just as much of a chance of not being saved as a Catholic, or any other denomination! Keep working to glorify our God. You bear the fruit of the Spirit.

[@richardmagale8405]

Thanks Fr. Casey. This was very informative. You are what the Church needs...good caring priests! Your ministry has helped me so much. Peace and Good! 😃☕

[@michagryniuk294]

Thank you fr. Casey, I just read few days ago that a chapter from the CCC about the fifth commandment and I encountered the fragment about the excommunication, but I couldn't find it in the paragrapgh that was given in my version in the footnote, so thank you, reminded me that I was looking for it and got the answer :)

[@thomasboyd4119]

Awesome. Great video. God bless you Father Casey 🙏.

[@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964]

This is clearly and well defined. Thanks Fr for this form of preaching the gospel the Church teachings.

[@restedassurance]

Excommunication is present in the Lutheran tradition as well (I am WELS) although there aren't strict guidelines to it. Excommunication is used in the same way: being unable to receive the Eucharist, voting and taking official positions, and being an official member. Unlike Catholicism, we don't have a list of specific sins and circumstances that deem it necessary. Typically if someone is unrepentant after being confronted numerous times, they will be excommunicated - and that could be from any sin really. The process is really up to each physical church; whether it be just between the pastor and the individual, the elders, or the entire congregation. What I know we can agree on though is that excommunication is not done out of spite but loving concern for the sinner. More than ever we want all people to come to repentance and be in communion together.

[@bebetonguga]

Oh, Father Casey!! You are such a good teacher!! As one I can recognise when someone is!! Thanks for these efforts in evangelising!! May Our Lady of the Angels bless all these efforts!!

[@robinbyrd4430]

Thank you for clarity on this issue. 🕊️🌺🙏🏽

[@kemmow25]

Thanks you so much for making this be clear. Now get the rest of the world to hear, watch and understand. That is the next step.

[@catholicfemininity2126]

God bless Father. Keep persevering, stay on the narrow path.

[@johnm5928]

Great video Father! Very informative and factual.

[@robinbyrd4430]

Love the great videos🕊️🙏🏽🌺

[@DarkAngel-cj6sx]

I love your contents, they are so informative and you explain with boldness like the apostles. May the Holy spirit keep guiding you.

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

Ahhh, yes. Boldness like the apostles. Holy Spirit et al. Dark Angel, you do dazzle!

[@harthal5028]

Thanks for the vid just had a coworker ask me about excommunication 20 mins ago

[@stephanelarochelle2484]

Well explained, thank you

[@ambrosiusndzedzeni4965]

Welcome back Catholicism in focus. Good to have you.

[@MissJuneBennett]

Thank you for explaining that

[@markgiardina5600]

Good video , very informative

[@MM22272]

Well articulated and delivered. I appreciate your wearing your religious habit.

[@LiliWhyte]

I am inspired by the last words. TY

[@ChaseTerrier]

Thank you for the posting this video. I enjoy history and I was reading the history of Judge Leander Perez from Louisiana. Archbishop Joseph Rummel excommunicated Judge Perez and two other opponents of integration on April 16, 1962 and I was wondering exactly what that meant.

[@lelandunruh7896]

Regarding your comment about legal systems: excommunication is actually somewhat analogous to contempt in American courts. The point is not generally punish (although people often think that). Rather, the point of contempt is to get the person to comply with the order they're disobeying. Obviously the analogy only goes so far, but that might be a helpful way for some people to think of it!

[@dvdortiz9031]

You got the whole thing upside-down. It is the other way around! Freemasonic US founding fathers to govern, plagiarized everything from the Church: The Bible= the Constitution The Church to explain the bible= the Supreme Court Incommmunication = pending penalties to bring to reason Dead unrepented= capital punishment. There you have it, freemasons snatched everything from the Church and call it "their own"!!! Do you want more? Freemasonic Capitolio, pyramid of Washington, apotheosis, etc... Mimic Saint Peter basilica and plaza!!!!

[@abrareads]

Thank you for this! I honestly thought that excommunication was permanent so this was great clarification.

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

Ahh, What a relief. Cross yourself. Light a candle. Say a prayer, And cross your fingers. Don't walk under a ladder. Run if you see a black cat, Abra! Great clarification indeed. You'll save so much on health and auto insurance. Don't bother to pay either because you and your god know best. Never mind science and risk matrixes. How simple it must be so long as you follow the rules. You do follow the rules, don't you? Don't let us all down, Dear Abra!!!!

[@heavengyohannes2512]

Thank you, father, for your great insights. I have become a catholic recently; and able to learn a lot from your videos. I have a lot of protestant friend. And challenging me with a question regarding Mather of God Ever Virgen. particularly one:" Did Mother of God raise from the dead?" please try to respond to my question, when you have time.

[@dvdortiz9031]

The Tradition maintains that the virgin Mary was assumed onto heaven by the merits of the Lord Jesus who incarnated in her Revelation talks about the Woman taken to heaven by the eagle of bigger wings...The Holy Spitit, also read Psalm 45 and Numbers 30!!!

[@amask99]

I'd like to thank you for your work, Father. This channel brings me so much hope and I'm constantly reminded that there's a place for optimism. That our Faith being true is the Good News, not a reason for despair. That even though there's much work to be done and the state of the World is bad, God hasn't abandoned us and we can win many souls for Him. He still loves us and uses everything for our salvation. Now I'm wondering- what if someone commits a sin of impurity with an only priest in a remote area and cannot reach another confessor?

[@michagryniuk294]

The only way for that priest to give absolution without excommunicating himself (that point is about priest excommunication, the penitent doesn't get excommunicated) is when the person is in near death situation. This rule is to protect the penitent from possible manipulation coming from that priest. The person should seek any other priest to confess if they can. In situation when they cannot find one soon, and they e.g. want to receive the Holy Body or just be without guilt, they can do confession just with God, as usual they have to repent for their sins. God doesn't need priests to forgive sins but uses them to ensure your sins have been forgiven. Without them you can ask for forgiveness directly. However it's best to seek confession soon after this to have a guarantee of absolved sins to put your mind on ease.

[@ucheodozor4147]

Father, you forgot to mention that, like mortal sins, excommunication is automatic, in the sense that it is not totally dependent on whether the physical Church in Rome pronounces it on an individual. A person automatically becomes excommunicated if he or she commits excommunicable offences, even if secretly, just like commission of mortal sins renders one asunder from full communion with the Church, until and unless one has recourse to the sacrament of reconciliation in absolute repentance, humility and surrender to God. So, essentially, someone may be walking around in the Church while being excommunicated in the spirit for some secret excommunicable sin they are quietly harbouring in their heart and refusing to repent of and embrace the true doctrine.

[@SoleaGalilei]

Your "not anymore" comment made me want a followup video about historical excommunication and how it differed from today!

[@cbeaudry4646]

Would love to see you guys react to some classic

[@manuelvargas467]

Thanks father give me hope to Jesus and catholic ✝️🙏❤️‍🔥

[@Skel20071]

It's back!

[@maryellencook9528]

Another well done video, Fr. Casey. I don't think that Henry Tudor or Marti Luther particularly cared one way or the other, but it IS good clarification for the rest of the general public. Even as a Cradle Episcopalian I found this an interesting and informative video.

[@sassyg3316]

I can’t speak for Henry VIII but Martin Luther’s life after the 95 theses nailed to the door on the 31st October was fraught with great regret with what happened as a result of this action. Remembering he was an Augustine- Eremite priest, taking his vocation often to excess, he was so sure of his vocation and he had made the church his life. His issue was not necessarily the Catholic Church but the actions of the Pope and Bishop Tetsall raising income for the church through indulgences. The coffers of the Papacy was empty and the new Pope wanted to continue the work on the rebuilding of St Peter’s. There are excellent podcasts about Luther’s regret for the sweeping changes to Protestantism across Europe.

[@Cklert]

@@sassyg3316 I wouldn't say regret after he was excommunicated. Martin Luther's initial reaction to the Church's demands to correct his errors or be excommunicated was simply to burn the Papal Bull in public.

[@dvdortiz9031]

@@Cklert you ignore the endorsement the German princes received from him

[@JonathanSaxon]

@@sassyg3316 Do you have the names of any of these podcasts, thanks.

[@sassyg3316]

@@JonathanSaxon Yes. I listen to the Ryan Reeves podcast on KZbin plus there are several docos about Martin Luther that describe his journey. One in particular was enlightening. It was brave enough to say that when Luther was on target, he was great but he was also a flawed human like us all. He made very anti-Semitic statements as well as other writings that would cause some criticism today. We are all fallen and sinners but thank goodness for Gods grace.

[@armorguy1108]

As a respectful Lutheran I will offer these observations in this video: 1) Father Casey is a faithful servant of the Word and I respect how he is communicating Catholic doctrine. I would *love* to sit down and discuss matters of faith, doctrine, and theology with him. 2) I think this video glosses over how some Catholic Bishops have used the threat of excommunication (or withholding of access to Catholic sacraments) to certain politicians which has come across as very much a punishment. 3) Father Casey's response, however heartfelt, about how excommunication *should* be handled is not aligned with how I have seen it handled with friends who are Catholic. I acknowledge my experience are anecdotal but they are very real and, I suspect, not dissimilar from others on the "Outside Looking In" to how these things are handled. I appreciate this view into the Roman Catholic Church and will continue to watch, listen, and (hopefully) learn. Be well.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

They use the threat of excommunication for supporting abortion. I’ll be impressed when they start talking about using the threat of excommunication for engaging in war. But going against the war machine ( beyond Papal platitudes) and proclaiming that every politician who voted for ,and every Catholic service person who participates in ,the act of war ( aka another form of baby-killing) is automatically excommunicated requires way more bravery than the Church possesses and would lose them their right-wing followers and their $$$$$$$$$$$.

[@jamesnjoroge4490]

Well understood now

[@54032Zepol]

True enough the best thing a Christian can do is be ready to welcome people.

[@vpecheva]

Thank you for Catholicism in Focus. There’s always a lot to learn. Can you do a video on Apostasy as well? 🙏

[@DaddyDavid345]

3:50 not me thinking "delcared" is an actual word 😂

[@manub.3847]

One of the best-known excommunications was probably in 1076/1077 King Henry IV of the Roman-German Empire = the penitential journey to Kanossa.

[@davidhawkins5329]

Thank you For Casey. Do the front & back of a bishops miter refer to the Old Testament & the New Testament?

[@gator33_hkpro]

Highly recommend Fr. Chris Alar's lecture on Extra Ecclesium Nulla Salus

[@rpmgrlca]

My grand-aunt was threatened with excommunication because she only had 2 children. They didn't follow through but honestly she wouldn't have cared if they had.

[@joelskelley2625]

If you would watch the video you’d understand that that can’t possibly be true

[@johnmccrossan9376]

She may have been threatened and I'm sorry on behalf of the church if she was but as fr casy said it would have been an empty threat

[@LuisRodriguez-lf1ic]

Could you do a video over Frank Pavone, who was defroked last year?

[@ronaldmessina4229]

I was taught that. Excommunication is a form of punishment, which prevents a Catholic from receiving the sacraments, thus one is not in the state of sanctifying grace, and if he dies thus he is at great risk of going to. hell 😢

[@nunyabiz6925]

Same. I left the church but to each to their own.

[@drewaskins8377]

Threat of death removes most restrictions on receiving the sacraments. Also, as my mom likes to say "God doesn't play gotcha". if you die with a contrite heart, that's what's most important.

[@benzneo6469]

Can someone list it all down? I can't actually heard it very well, due to me not so fluent in English.. Can't totally trust the subtitles/caption 100% too.. With the list, I can refer some words from the dictionary.. Thanks..

[@userJohnSmith]

At least not anymore... You gotta admit past misdeeds, always nice to have these little gems laying around.

[@christopherjohnson3311]

Great video! I have a few questions: 1. With regards to ferendae sententiae, what if the bishop who excommunicated you has since died or been excommunicated himself and you wish to be readmitted? 2. Do excommunicated priests return to their holy orders upon being readmitted? 3. What sort of offenses might cause a ferendae sententiae excommunication?

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

ReidnLori Kincaid 0 seconds ago I think you're pretty much screwed. But try this. Cross yourself. Light a candle. Say a prayer, And cross your fingers. Don't walk under a ladder. Run if you see a black cat.You'll save so much on health and auto insurance. Don't bother to pay either because you and your god know best. Never mind science and risk matrixes. How simple it must be so long as you follow the rules. You do follow the rules, don't you? Don't let us all down, Dear Chris!

[@johnmccrossan9376]

​@@reidnlorikincaid9683are you alright? You seem to have a lot of anger.

[@paulsmallwood1484]

Sounds very similar to excommunication in the Protestant tradition except for differences over the concept of automatic excommunication.

[@oldfashioned9461]

Thank you Fr. Casey. Interesting topic. From a logistics standpoint, looking at the whole Church, excommunication I assume is hard to enforce, probably why it's rarely used nowadays. I do wish something could be done though with Catholic public figures that clearly encourage change of Church teaching, such as promoting gay marriage and woman priests. Although those that do encourage it do so with such cautious wording. Likely so they can claim that's not what they're promoting, even though it's hard to understand how they are not. (To be clear, not referencing you, Fr. Casey. Comments on here can easily be misunderstood.)

[@DanteColburn]

And those that support abortion. I don't understand how Catholics that openly and publicly support that barbaric practice, to the point of writing or voting for legislation allowing it, are not being excommunicated or even imposed an expiation penalty.

[@jgzales1]

Didnt maddonna get this several times, went back to church and got it again for othrt stuff

[@dvdortiz9031]

Contumacy, stubbornness and insistence on sin confirms the Church decree!!! Madonna is the name of the virgin Mary and the singer does and says lewd acts and remarks in public using her name!!!

[@ksiriscool]

I think that throwing away the blessed sacrament is a sacrelige and incurs a laetae sententiae excommunication per 1983 Code of Canon Law

[@ScreamingReel500]

I think so.

[@clone_69]

Any reason it's specifically the 6th commandment that causes excommunication to the one forgiving the breaking of it?

[@EPSON-HP]

Is receiving the blessed sacrament in the state of mortal sin considered as desecrating it?

[@Liam-Carlson]

No, but it is a grave sin to receive the Eucharist while in a state of mortal sin.

[@SantaFe19484]

Were the rules regarding excommunication in the 16th century different than today?

[@generalyousif3640]

Fr Casey, hopefully you tackle the Feeneyism Hersey soon, I’m interested in it because I have seen Rad Trad engage in it

[@MatrixRefugee]

Please do, Father Casey. Someone needs to school the Rad Trads on Basic Christian Charity, since some of them never seemed to have learned it in the first place.

[@generalyousif3640]

@@MatrixRefugee Fr, they are more obsessed with a club membership over Jesus, who is the sole cause of our salvation.

[@Tttb95]

Just ask them about the Holy Innocents then. Also if you think more than a few small fringe groups are actually Feeneyists then youre very mistaken.

[@generalyousif3640]

@@Tttb95 im not familiar with your comment, can you provide context?

[@Tttb95]

​@@generalyousif3640 If you need to be baptized to get to heaven why are the Holy Innocents canonized? St Dismas was also almost certainly not baptized either, yet Jesus explicitly states he will be in heaven. This shuts down Feeyenism from the get go. Its a-historical, unbiblical and just downright bad theology. What I suspect is going on is that they are just taking the call to evangelize and the necessity of the sacraments too far in response to over-liberalism. The SSPX actually have a good letter from 2001 on Feeyenites that provides a more charitable and nuanced message, while wholly affirming Catholic dogma, and calling them ridiculous. A general rule of thumb for trads is if they deny something the Church AND the SSPX wholly affirm theyre either idiots (most probable) or genuine schismatics (less likely).

[@Anon.5216]

Wow! I thought excommunication meant Hell. Thank u for enlightening me.

[@blmyoubigot581]

It does unless you repent and rejoin the Church before your death.

[@luisoncpp]

I have always thought(because of 1 Corinthians 5) that the purpose of excommunication is to make clear that we don't encourage certain kind of behaviours; because gentiles may get a wrong impression about the community and the same community may start to think that it's ok to commit some wrongdoings. Is there still some dimension like that in the excommunication? As a personal note, I'm shocked how many people try to justify to ignore God's commanments by just pointing out people that have done worse things without consequence. I have heard some people saying that in real life, but I also remember few pop(and not so pop) culture references: in The Boys, the speach of Starlight; in World Without End(the novel), Caris once rationalizes the action of being a nun with a lover using a similar argument; Epicure(the greek philosopher) gave the advise of don't fear the gods, because the gods haven't punished people that has done terrible things, so they wouldn't care about some missconducts.

[@luisrosalesEAGLE]

Am catholic but I do agree with some thing with Martin

[@sprinklejeyaraj3965]

its like modern world phase "suspension"

[@elijahsanders7157]

okay so i'm going to ask this question: is abortion a sin in the church if it is done to save the life of the mother or preserve her health? Does a person risk excommunication in this instance?

[@marktapia8327]

What is meant by/what is an example of forgiving an accomplice for a sin against the 6th commandment?

[@vorastrixaridarastrixiejir403]

I too, would like to know the answer.

[@xaim7344]

I think it means that the priest can not himself give absolution to a person which was related to him breaking the sixth commandment, e. g. if he has a mistress. It also should not apply to a situation in danger of death, if that is really meant.

[@michagryniuk294]

Yeah, like @@xaim7344 said - the priest cannot grant absolution to any person he has done things against 6th commandment with. Only in case of near death the absolution is allowed. The excommunication only affects the priest of course in this scenario.

[@marktapia8327]

Thanks!

[@xaim7344]

It also should be pointed out that in this case accomplice does include a person who the priest has advised (or otherwise lead) to sin against the commandment in some form, e. g. if the priest tells a person that it’s ok or even good when they engage in intercourse outside of marriage.

[@hubertk7363]

You should also have mentioned interdict.

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Can’t fit everything in one video, but also a good topic!

[@DGaryMoore]

What is with the click bait? I at least expected some content related to the excommunication of Luther and other heretics of the reformation. It was a great presentation, but I would still like to know more about the thinking of the church related to the heretics of the reformation.

[@middleinitial]

Can someone explain why forgiving an accomplice to a sin against the sixth commandment is excommunicable?

[@dawnlapka3782]

There's two kinds of excommunication, according to the Catechism: 1) you can Excommunicate yourself (hermits, but still Sacramentally doing what you are supposed to do to build up the church. I sometimes yell out loud at my own community. It's a call to conversion to and for them) Why do I do this? Because it's necessary. Paychecks are limited, turnover is high-- so much so that we may as well be making them... The other is doing wrong enough that you accept not receiving communion until you are allowed again, but you are still receiving Sacramental care. That's how I read, hear and practice my Faith and the values of that Faith.

[@gypsydonovan]

I’ve been waiting for an explanation all my life. I wish I’d been able to share this with my grandmother. It leaves me with a lot of questions I’ll never resolve. Later in life, my grandmother was a notorious liar, but early on all indications are that she was a devoted catholic who should have known all this. I don’t know where her information came from. Before my mother was born, her mother- from what I’ve pieced together- had an affair with a married man at her church. Nothing happened to the man despite him being the one who’d taken marriage vows. My maternal grandmother was excommunicated and it destroyed her. She became a severe alcoholic, she was abusive to her children (6 by at least 5 fathers), whom she allowed to be abused by her parade of boyfriends. She got into spiritualism, which helped her a bit but her heart never really recovered from the excommunication & I felt like she lived with a “I’m going to hell anyway” mentality that prevented healing or loving herself. As a medievalist I think in terms of the pope’s excommunication of England under Henry VIII- a political move that caused stress among the people but I think most knew God to be above the spats & squabbling of earthly leaders (even, in that scenario, the pope himself). But as a person who never met my grandmother when she felt whole, it’s deeply personal.

[@PolymorphicPenguin]

Don't you hate that double standard? It would seem that the man your grandmother had the affair with should have gotten excommunicated too, but I guess men aren't considered to be responsible for their sexual choices.

[@kantarelljulletjolahopp5607]

@@PolymorphicPenguin Did you not read through the comment?

[@dvdortiz9031]

Why was she excommunicated????

[@dvdortiz9031]

@PolymorphicPenguin the adulterersexcommunicate thrnselves!! The Church does not have to know. It is against God's decree!!!

[@dvdortiz9031]

Henry viii separated himself from God. Therefore, his excommunion, it was not a political game, silly, he took e3% of Christianity at that time!!! The Pope let him go!!! His marriage was valid before God!!!

[@user-xb1lk8zf7g]

"If the pope attacks you first and you hit him back, you're in the clear." - Fr. Casey

[@letriciabrowder2942]

Great video! Can you talk about your fellow brothers and sisters in a contemplative order? What's that life like, how does it different from your day to day life?

[@dvdortiz9031]

Contemplative orders pray world-wide for the Church and humankind 24/7 throughout the year !!!!

[@russellmiles2861]

As the Roman Catholic church has a don't ask don't tell policy this is no big deal. I married a pretty Irish lass. Her relatives and friends just gave lip service to any church teaching they didn't like. A few taught in Church schools and were promoted. No one cares about these things unless you are a Bishop perhaps: and not even then much if they don't speak out too much

[@drstevemarson]

What about divorce?

[@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve]

Good video. If there any evidence we can use to show how the orthodox church separated from Catholics. Or is it the Catholic who separated from the orthodox. Would be a great future video. Thank you FATHER. 🙏🏻🕊☝🏻🙌🏻⛪️🫶🏻👍🏻😇

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

The split was pretty mutual with mistakes made on both sides and many factors almost unavoidable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4iyoaFuqbd1g6c

[@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve]

@Breaking In The Habit Thank you so much. Ima look into the video. Father Chris Alar mentioned a and has a good video on that also on DEVINE MERCY CHANNEL. I'll look into the one you said. Thank you so much for your fast and graceful reply FATHER. 🫶🏻👍🏻😇

[@dvdortiz9031]

Read church history published by the Church!!!

[@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve]

@Dvd Ortiz Thank you Ortiz... 🫶🏻🕊👍🏻😇⛪️

[@blmyoubigot581]

@@BreakingInTheHabit The schismatic eastern churches refused to accept the authority of the Bishop of Rome, the Pope. No mistakes were made by the one true Church.

[@diverdave4304]

I am not Catholic, but I am a Baptized Christian. My mother Kathy was converted and confirmed before her passing away in 1985. I have always had a longing for converting, but was turned away when I was 23 years old, because I was a Freemason. I am now the sole survivor of my family. My parents and siblings all died young. Since I have no family I am interested in letting the church be my family. However, years ago I was endowed with life membership in the Freemasons, and this cannot be reversed unless excommunicated from the fraternity. Fr Cole commented that 1983 Freemasons were removed from canon law, but the CDF issued on 11/26/83 states Freemasons are in a state of grave sin and shall not be given communion. It’s very confusing for someone seeking spiritual direction. I would imagine the answer is still the same when I was turned away years ago. Please pray for me. Respectfully and Sincerely, David

[@trevorhanlin4247]

Father, two things, is it not also to help protect others from following the excommunicated person to heresy or schism? Also, to my knowledge the excommunication of Cizmar a priest of the Greek catholic eparchy of Kocise is one of the few publicly announced ones. (June 2022)

[@rickdockery9620]

The Gospel is so simple and clear. Jesus taught very well. Catholicism is so convoluted. I remember theology class in the Catholic college I went to, complicated. Always wondered why we never read scripture in the class. The Bible class we took was a tad better but it was the whole Bible in one semester. It’s interesting though.

[@dvdortiz9031]

Question for you, theology student: Why did Jesus make John the Baptist baptize him? Why did the Holy Spirit descend on him as a dove? Why did God the Fathe say : "This is my beloved Son on whon I am well pleased"? Wasn't Jesus free of sin, and by being himself God, why did he go through all that??? Simple reading with Many hours to explain!!!

[@rickdockery9620]

@@dvdortiz9031 why did the transfiguration happen? Why the miracles? John said he wasn’t worthy to baptize Jesus. I’ll leave the answer to God. Possibly to show his humanity? Idk

[@dvdortiz9031]

@Rick Dockery I have answers fir all of your questions and you shunt my questions!!! Tell me that you do not know and I will explain to you,!!!

[@rickdockery9620]

@@dvdortiz9031 Jesus is the way…glad u have the answers. U should be pope

[@DanteColburn]

The Gospel is not that simple, brother, and as you can see in the world of Christianity right now, there are many ways to misunderstand it, unfortunately.

[@vidarfe]

What if the bishop that excommunicated you no longer serves as a bishop? What if he's dead?

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

You go to the bishop of the diocese where you live.

[@dvdortiz9031]

The sacraments, binding or unbiding are effective. They do not depend on the moral status of the person who acted as a Chirch minister

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

You're screwed. Good luck!

[@TruthLivesNow]

Scriptures on excommunication from Corinthians: 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 - A person in the Corinthian Congregation was sleeping with his father's wife. The reason for the excommuication is found in verse 5: hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. The result of this excommunication is found in 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 - The man repented, and Paul tells the Church to forgive the man and love him.

[@TimothyRCrowe]

Well, I’m gleefully glad I and other Episcopalians are excommunicated. We been ordaining women since 1976 and shed that antiquated, institutional misogyny.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

Keep on doing it! We’ll wake up and catch up some day! 😊

[@TimothyRCrowe]

@@c.m.cordero1772 I seriously hope so. Remember, our doors are open and you’ll find the same liturgy and Mass, but progressed beyond Roman Catholic stagnation and institutionalized misogyny, homophobia, and patriarchy. We are about the Love Philosophy and Incarnational Theology of Christ, not a church that has become even more legalistic, prejudice and elitist than the Pharisees of his time.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

@@TimothyRCrowe lol. Thanks. I’ve received the invitation many times. It seems you are ministering to quite a few “ recovering Catholics”. I’m sticking here for now,but might take you up on your offer someday. My brother was baptized in the Episcopalian church and my sister joined the Methodists.

[@francishubertovasquez2139]

Ex communicated means no social thing, though no talk lovemaking can be done.

[@RealSeanithan]

From a parental perspective, actual punitive measures would be a spanking; excommunication is a time-out.

[@JorgeCruz-zn2vn]

I like this guy, I must say, 21 century Catholic clergy are waaaay nicer than 15th century ones

[@alangervasis]

Yeah..Says the 600 year old guy who has personally met with 15th century ones.

[@stuartjones3001]

We need to clone Father Casey ! cDNA your double come to the uk! Lol

[@ronaldmessina4229]

😮

[@matthewmay6806]

Can you elaborate on what it means to forgive an accomplice for violating the 6th commandment and why that is a bad or sinful thing?

[@drewaskins8377]

"Thou shall not commit adultery" If a Priest has an affair, he is not allowed to be the one to absolve the sin from his affair partner. Both parties have to go elsewhere to recieve the absolution of their sins

[@matthewmay6806]

@Drew Askins Ohhh okay that makes sense, thank you.

[@7Sabrina7]

You spelled declared "delcared" thought I might let you know...

[@samstapltonn]

4:42 I would like to see why becoming a Freemason was concerned to be that bad. I’m not one myself and the extent of my knowledge is from National Treasure so I’d like to know more!

[@reidnlorikincaid9683]

So many priests are leading the way down by abusing our children.

[@kathrynsue1986]

just wondering if a priest got drunk and started saying stuff that people confessed to him would he be excommunicated

[@jamesedgar4099]

You mention the Freemasons in passing. Why was the church hostile towards them, and why was the canon law changed?

[@BreakingInTheHabit]

Really the other way around. The Freemasons used to be fairly anti-Catholic in their beliefs. They’ve mellowed out.

[@ScreamingReel500]

@@BreakingInTheHabit I don't think the Freemason is mellowed out. Catholic cannot joint Freemason because they have their own oath which required the candidate to believe in god and that god can be any god not specifically the God of Judaism, Islam or Christian. That is the heresy of indifferentism. They are in their own a religion. Even now, Catholic cannot profess 2 faiths as Judaism and Catholic. Catholic belongs to one faith and one faith alone. Less that we cannot under jurisdiction of the Holy See and of Judaism or Eastern churches at the same time, how can we be with Freemason? Even the law might be removed but being a Catholic Freemason is every bit against every teaching of the Church. May Popes had warned us about Freemason in the past and they are still the same group today. Don't be fool because they went of the public radar.

[@matthewburk8667]

What really happened with Martin Luther way back in the 1500's?

[@williamfisher8646]

delcared?

[@chuknorth]

How many priests excommunicated in the last 50 Years? Just a question.

[@danielcarroll3358]

That implies that someone is keeping score.

[@patrickhepburn7867]

Father Casey can divorced catholic with government marriage be married in the church.

[@bandie9101]

i'm not a canon lawyer but i guess if they have not had children from the natural marriage, the church maybe does not count it.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

You mean you were divorced from your first spouse and now are in a civil marriage with another spouse? I’m not a canon lawyer either but I’ve had family in that situation so here’s what I’ve come across… If your first marriage was in the church you would have to get an annulment from that one. If your first marriage was not in the church it wouldn’t be considered valid as far as the church is concerned( assuming you were Catholic at the time) so it’s far easier to deal with.

[@mawelima148]

Someone: Attack the blessed Sacrament! Pope Francis: I'll excommunicate you if you do that!

[@Owlbutterfly]

Its medicinal 😊

[@WallDoc]

In our protestant church, we teach that any belligerently unrepentant sin can be a cause for excommunication which is the church declaring that based upon your example of life, that you are not a Christian. The hope is that by so declaring, the person will be humbled to realize that they are not right with God, will repent, and be restored in their relationship with Christ. It is not punitive but not wanting someone to stand before Jesus and have him say, "I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness." Better to hear that now from a loving church and repent than to hear it when it is too late to repent.

[@pacnik77]

i would look into the freemason deal again

[@julienalonso22]

Absolving an accomplice in a six against the sixth commandment?

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

During what was a most complicated convergence of events, I spoke to my pastor about the events years before entering the Church via RCIA to be married. There is and was no doubt i n my mind “The Bishop” was totally corrupt. Thus, also given the brutally honest similar thoughts about “Francis,” I will just have to wait for God to sort things out and let me know….

[@hemsty2]

CindiLoo - did you enter the church or are you still waiting? I find it strange that a new Catholic should feel so well informed that they think they know more than the Pope and the college of Cardinals - all of whom have spent much more than a year studying the faith in order even to become priests let alone move up the ecclesial ladder to Bishop or Cardinal God Bless you anyway and may you be more concerned with your own faith life than others

[@mauricethevenot6264]

You covered that talking way too fast. Why?

[@maciejwnuk6057]

old food in a new wrapper