Executions Graded: Shinobi

[@notasovietspytrustme4392]

Sometimes I play Shinobi with dismemberments disabled because many executions just look better imo

[@astrad6489]

Wait you can do that?

[@Dragonspirit223]

@@astrad6489 Yep, no decapitations and no dismemberment, I think you can also turn off gore

[@doncheadljuice3370]

Ya roach's original exes look better with dismemberment disabled imo

[@greenj117]

I didn’t know you could do this…

[@RattlebonesTheThird]

It's insane how much better exes look without needless decapitation

[@kalebmcgee7678]

Cant wait for the centurion execution grade keep up the great work

[@catneko6855]

My bet is very high cool factor- low efficiency- moderate to low lethality, and high realisum

[@AgentXA564]

In the For Honor world, heads must be held on by springs that send them flying off when touched by any weapon.

[@chaysedabasecase7242]

More like they are all superhumans basically lol. They are called hero’s for a reason. Able to clear whole armies by themselves in gameplay ahah. I think they are just so powerful that there blades just cut through like butter. Not to mention there blades are usually very large and sharp looking. It’s fantasy. For honor was never really realistic ahah. Look at all the effects and emotes and such. Now they have literal dragons and ghosts and demons ahah. I never really seen this game as going for realism. Maybe that was the vision at first but they quickly lost it ahha

[@rashid591]

@@chaysedabasecase7242the effects and emotes with dragons are cosmetic but the armor being butter is true

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

Yeah, I totally agree. That is much higher than I thought, but yeah they are oddly similar to one another. Hopefully the next executions will be more unique. Like seriously, why isn’t there one that involves them choking the opponent with the chains?

[@Zayl1016]

I was hoping that from Shinobi we would see more Judo throws implemented as executions, but using the kamas to drive into the body and create points of leverage. Judo is all about using the opponent's energy against them where small people can throw larger figures with ease. Like imagine tomoe nage (basically you pull the opponent as you fall onto your back, put your feet on their hips to flip them over you as you do so - sounds complicated but look it up and you'll see what I mean). But instead of grabbing an opponents lapel, the Shinobi drives the kama behind the clavicle of the opponent towards their chest. Would puncture VERY vital arteries and the clavicles being intact would act as far better leverage points than a lapel.

[@awesome_by_default]

Me before watching this vid: "What is the most unrealistic hero and why is it shinobi?"

[@Blackstonelegion]

22:26 I could be mistaken, However I think the Spinning of the Kama could maybe be use to hit anyone who is rushing in to interrupt the Shinobi while they are executing. But thats a big maybe. Regardless 3 out of 4 for efficiency still works. I just wanted to share my thoughts.

[@sydious_s_snake]

Very very glad that you're gonna flip gets the recognition it deserves, you see so many shinobis throughout the years using the other two quick decapitations for their fast heal in teamfights, when you're gonna flip is just perfect in every way with the same result, love that execution

[@ForSeiKin]

Something I like to do when playing shinobi is disable the dismemberment to make it much more realistic with all the dismemberment, you would probably like that and I wonder how that would've affected the grade. A little bit strange on commentary so far. The first was thrown downwards so it would stab in, not straight forward, the chain is connected to shinobis wrist at full tension so him moving his arm down in in fact applying force downwards for it to stab into the enemy. The second one he swings both a full 720° before it slams into either side of their neck, and they are acting like chains not bungie cords. The Sickles don't snap back straight to the shinobi's hands, he is always winding the chains back around his wrist and catching the handle as a professional chain weapon user could do quite easily. Then its a bit of goofy ahh bungie until spinning around. That is genuinely how it would work, the downward force at full tension of the sharp weapon that WILL be faced down cause thats how the weapon works, thats a 4/4 for reality. The smoke bomb execution. If he's throwing it straight out then there's a chance it could hit the blunt side and not work but any kind of downward swing and the force could make it latch on, I don't think you're fully understanding how much force a swinging weapon can have. For instance, someone tied a metal ball no bigger than a marble to a piece of string string, they swung it around and slammed it against a skull, even just 3 full rotations was enough to leave a large crack in the skull. Now take a weapon larger in mass and really sharp being swung into something weaker than bone. Its latching in even with a 1 rotation wind-up. That is a 3/4 for reality because of the decapitation that might work if there's truly enough force or prior damage to the neck but everything else worked perfectly. And yes pulling back and down on something stabbed into a person would unbalance them and even make them roll with enough force due to the direction they are moving. Under the bridge. Its a bit more questionable as its a more precise strike, the force and latching capability is there but its not as believable cause of the preciseness needed. Also the efficiency should go to at least 3 as he's going under the body guarding him there, the body goes behind him protecting him from attacks from the back as the enemies may hit the wardens body instead and he guards his front as he retrieves his weapons and gets to his feet so he's relatively protective and still aware, there's just some problems with the sliding under the legs.

[@RavenKnightYT]

For the first one: and how do youo garuntee that the blade will go straight in, point down, without shifting direction or angle? How do you garuntee that you will get full extention? How do you garuntee that you will be able to rip it out again to your hand (like a bungie chord or yoyo)? For the second one, she does swing them in wide archs......how do you garuntee they both hit the neck with the same amount of force, at the same time, and then go in with enough depth that they would allow the shinobi to not only jump onto the opponent but stay there with full tension on the chains without pulling them out again? And yet could STILL ripp off the head just by flicking her wrist or something? And THEN can magic them back up to her arms in an instant? You then bring up a metal ball no bigger than a marble being swung and then used to hit the skull. That's nice, Can you garuntee that the blade is what hits the opponent and not the wrong end? Can you garuntee that the blade will go in with enough force to penetrate, hook the opponent, and then be yanked out with perfect ease? You then say 'pulling back on someone that's latched would pull them to you.' I agree with that. I never said it couldn't. Would it cause them to do a complete flip across the ground? Would you be able to yank out your weapons so easily if they were buried deep enough to pull your enemy to you? You say I underestimate the force of a swung weapon. I do not underestimate it. You overestimate the ease of swiming a single sided blade weapon that is not properly balanced, is only dangerous one end, that did not exist in history (for good reason), and still being not only lethal but proficent and effective with it. No offense meant man. I respect your input. But I thought long and hard about this, and I'm afraid many of these executions do not work.

[@SNIPEZisGood]

People really be typing essays

[@_Umbrael_]

@@RavenKnightYT guarantee*

[@ForSeiKin]

@@RavenKnightYT First: I've had a cousin who does martial arts and they got to train with a weapon almost identical to shinobi's, got to swing it around a lot and the blade always follows direction when swinging in an arc because of the mass of the blade sticking out in its direction. If it was a loose throw then it would be wobbly but its not loose so it would connect. Also I'm sure shinobi has used the weapon enough to know when to grab the chain and pull in the direction they need for max tension force at the distance you want but there's room for slip-up as with everything. There's also a chance for it to get stuck if its in too deep so takes a lot of factors hence the stretches in realism but it won't get stuck too often and the bungie I can't explain, the winding is easily explainable as thats how most users bring chain weapons back in style. Second: it looks like shinobi positions themselves for the distance they are used to as they swing the Kamas for enough force, if it was a straight swing I wouldn't buy it but a full 2 rotation swing is more believable as more force. If they both latch into the neck, the tips are either puncturing the spinal cord or right behind it which would lock the Kamas in place. There is a chance they would tear through and shinobi would do a Bruce Lee style sit-up in response but I'm honestly surprised warden doesn't just fall in one direction from the shinobi's weight. Shinobi also could apply more pulling force to pull the Kamas through but sideways pulls like with get back here! Would never work though I don't think thats what shinobi does for that exe. Also they aren't magiced to the arms, they are "magiced" to the floor before he pulls them, wrapping them around his wrists to get them back in his hands. Ball vs Blade: The kama blade applies weight and flow, like a curved katana that will correct itself downwards when dropped cause the curve is making the weight flow that direction, the kama blade will follow swing direction, if its a forward throw there is no guarantee it will not hit the blunt side but arching swings will guarantee a latch with enough force which is dependant on the shinobi's ability to know distance and applied force to the chain. The yanking out could easily be made more realistic but there's a chance the Kamas will come out like that, just not always gonna happen. If their is enough force backwards and downwards, there is a possibility the warden would flip, they may just be pulled to their back but a flip is a possibility, not a guarantee but shinobi could still do the same thing even if warden was facing a different direction, hes still laying on the ground. With enough pull they would tear through the skin and muscle to continue while pulling your enemy but there's a chance they get stuck. Shinobi could correct it by pulling it out himself by grabbing the handle and pulling it out then slitting the throat as a decap would be even less possible with just one kama instead of both. I could be overestimating just cause of what I've experienced as a single experience and not hundreds or in full on battle thats for certain but years of training and understanding the shinobi must have could very well counter that, the disbalance is what makes it better as if it was two sided, there would be an added chance an arc could go evenly distributed with weight causing it to turn and hit the blunt side. It was not a weapon used in history as people have mentioned when I say I want a hero with a scythe shaped like a farmers scythe but used for war. There is not a lot of showing of scythes being used but I myself have used a scythe modified for war while keeping the farming scythe shape while others wouldn't be able to. Plus there's 0 historical evidence of these weapons being used for battle so makes it harder to analyze. Many of the executions don't work, I agree there, but its just the arcing swings and force behind the weapon I disagree with, still respecting your input as much as you respect mine though

[@thegregitto]

"The 'Weeb' of the samurai faction" Orochi, Aramusha, and Kyoshin lookin very mad rn

[@thesenate6300]

I always thought that the reason the shinobis weapon acted differently to that of irl was because the blades looked really heavy so they would hit first when thrown and lacerate, I get that kinda vibe from shinobi since all of his armour looks patchy like he's modified it for his own uses while he's out stalking and spending lots of time on the battlefield, so he did the same to his weaponry.

[@jarthegiraffe3303]

You're Gonna Flip is easily one of my favorites. Perfect display of brutality and efficiency.

[@eeveewonder6277]

Even as a Shinobi/Shaolin main, I can't stand the decapitation executions . I would love to have seen her do so much cooler things with her weapons (I know what they are called but I can't spell it). She is a, fantasy, ninja there are so many freaking awesome things she could do, yes I would forsake some realism with how she swings it around for less god damn beheading, she's Japanese not french come on.

[@SuperflyMiceguy]

Another lovely grading video. This one I think you did very well as I didn't see much that I would disagree with regarding your scores and found it funny you gave at least one execution a mercy point on its realism factor because there were so many 1s.

[@Haos51]

Nicely done Raven! As much as I like Shinobi, I didn't expect Realism to do too well.

[@theholynut8598]

The perfect storm of 1s in realism is here

[@thebalaclavabandit217]

Great vid carnt wait for BP and keep up the good work as your my favourite historical for honor KZbinr

[@kobold7964]

I love Shinobi’s Sekka no Atari execution because I am fully convinced that Shinobi is doing the Raging Demon pose when she jumps at them.

[@GiyutheWaterHasira]

I honestly wish Shinobi played less like a direct fighter and more like.. well a Shinobi, like making their feats more trap orientated or something ( it's been a while since I've played Shinobi so I don't remember their feats) I do remember Shinobi having poison or something like that which is cool. Generally I just wish Shinobi wasn't a character that you could just run into any fight with. Imagine if they could sabotage stuff, maybe in breach they could plant a small explosive on the ram or wall, nothing to crazy just doing a tiny bit of damage maybe, nothing that makes Shinobi a must pick Idk

[@Drachnyen07]

Raven, we like what your doing as a majority, keep this up man!

[@thegermangal9120]

The sighs as the decapitations just keep coming are hilarious yet understandable, holy hell, a lot of these are awful

[@lordfijor1386]

The realism stat exists Exclusively to bash on Shinobi

[@sindriwulver7818]

I've had an idea since you mentioned Shinobi using the chains to choke their opponent out, what if they got an execution that uses their throw animation where they do a standing spin kick to turn their opponent around before quickly unraveling the chain to one of their kusarigama and holding the weapon in their opposite hand to use it like a garrot from behind.

[@meridianlandscape]

Aw Biscuits! The mythical 4/16 failure eludes us again!

[@yagurainuzuka]

Question what did shinobi say after yeeting herself towards the warden. I could hear her say something but I couldn't pick up what

[@RavenKnightYT]

“Mada tatakaeru” Roughly translated, it means “I can still fight.”

[@brumplewumple250]

Shinobi having horrible realism is a reference to how much of a joke the character is

[@tehtanooki6429]

Honestly, i feel flying lotus would've been more realistic because while Shinobi is climbing you see them slice along the neck as it's already got a puncture to help slice along the neck while she climbs on them.

[@FarnesV]

I'm seeing all your videos. Good work man!

[@Persephonics0]

I can't wait for shaman because I wanna see that efficiency get a 1 every single time because she is trying to eat

[@reaperofsouls321]

There's so much to hate about Shinobi and I fully get the lack or realism,, especially with the decaps.. They look cool n all but like you said.. you're not gonna get a decap with a kama THAT easily. Only way I can see a decap happening from these chained kamas with Kratos logic reach is literally only if they whip a kama to the back of their neck and pull them into a kick using leverage to lop their dome off and that's literally it.. a real kusarigama woulda been the best option, you'd have so much more potential out of the traditional chain n sickle than what we have now.. probably a more diverse playstyle too.

[@CRollins1997]

I can already tell that Raven is going to get a bunch of crap for these execution gradings, but frankly if you're going to grade realistically then you have to be critical, and Shinobi is a pretty unrealistic warrior.

[@DatStapleBoi]

Never realized just how many unnecessary decapitations Shinobi has. 26:32 really annoys me

[@Bladerunner39]

The devs should have just scrapped the chains and just have Shinobi use the Kamas by themselves, would have made it more realistic and forced them to be more creative. If they had done that and toned down the dismemberment, we could have gotten some badass executions.

[@leobruch3697]

Executions that take of the head although it is pretty much impossible with those movements shouldn’t get 4 for lethality

[@A.Lien98]

18:44 Nah you lost me, that swing was very realistic for the kusarigama

[@smorphous8928]

It’ll make way more sense if Shinobi used the Sai’s or a small sword/knife to get quick kills instead of using the Kama’s. Kama’s can kill if going for vital arteries or slitting the throat but they damn well can’t decapitate a head especially if the enemy is wearing chainmail.

[@darkstar4977]

I too was very underwhelmed with shinobi and his usage if the kasurigama, its one of my favorite weapons in japanese culture and it has such promise, but ubisoft made it seem like a mortal kombat weapon like scorpions spear and they don’t even try to utilize it the way you’re supposed to.

[@demonslayer5122]

Even Scorpion's spear is utilized in a more realistic way.

[@ericknudsen98]

I can't wait until you get to berserker :D

[@RavenKnightYT]

I already did berserker. :)

[@xmaple1x]

I wonder how much does the life insurance cost on warden afterwards XD

[@CdogThePro]

Why do half of his executions just defy the laws of physics

[@Sl31ghtofhand]

As a avid Naruto fan throwing stars is a Naruto reference specifically demon wind shurikan reference

[@okiemax]

Way too nice on the poor sod. I'd give him around a 50. Only thing is quickness

[@unknowntemptation2737]

14:22 MIGHT KING!😂

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

The only thing I take issue with is calling the Kama a poor weapon, since when you get down to it, they're a horizontal blade on a stick. The closest similarity I could draw to them would be something like a short handled war-pick, only with a flatter head and without anything on the back of the head. They're excel at being plunged into someone's body, and with the underside blade being used for drawing or pulling cuts. Not exactly as good as say, a sword or a mace, but a decent weapon all around, especially if the kama in question is designed as a weapon first, rather than a farming tool

[@RavenKnightYT]

An interesting phrase: "If they are designed as a weapon first..." By that logic any item designed as a weapon first would be a fine weapon, would it not? That was intentional in the design. But given the other weapons available to a ninja, would the kama, even if designed properly, be a sufficient choice? I doubt it.

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

@@RavenKnightYT WHat I mean by that is that the initial weaknesses that you get with a "farm tool kama" are easy enough to remove when making one that is better suited for combat. Like the difference between just picking one up off the ground in a farm and having one forged specifically so you could fight with it. The real issue with the Kama in this case is the go-go-gadget extendo-chain wrapped around the Shinobi's arms And yeah, any weapon designed as a weapon first(excluding "weapons" which actively pose more harm to the user, such as a flail with a chain too long, or nunchucks) would be a "fine" weapon. Not that all weapons are created equal, a polearm will always be a better option than any one handed weapon which isn't a spear and a shield after all, just that any weaon that passes the "does it hurt you more than the guy you're swinging it at?" test will make for a usable weapon at the absolute worst

[@joeyvanhaperen7715]

For flying lotus if you look close shinobi cut's along the neck with the left weapon and then finishes the cut with right which is when the head falles of. I think you should rethink relisme on that one now knowing this. For spinning around one of my specialty's is whip like weapons and I can tell you from expierence you can 100% certain do that chop down like shown in that excution, cause I have done strikes like that where I wind the chain/rope around me arm and relise the wind up by performing a downwards strike with my arm straight with chainwhips and meteorhammers. Also for that quick of a ark the sikkel wouldn't have enough time to twist and jenking it back into your hand by the chain in that situation will also be possible a other thing I know from expierence, cause with the chain thight like that you can easly pull it hard enough for it to fly back into your hand while rewinding remaining chain around your arm from that distance. That's one of the few excution where the chain doesn't act to a bungy cordish, sow you can't falt it to much for that since they clearly have enough chain to do this attack. It would be a increadably diffucult thing to pull of this excution, but trust me when I say it is defenitly possible to do sow. Execpt for the part where she doesn't hold the kama and there like atteched to her arms that's not happing even if you put the chain around the handel that would probably come loss in a spin like that, sow anything but the chop is unrealitsic ironicly enough. Apart from those points I agree with you.

[@presofcamelot]

I don't actually own Shinobi yet, is she fun? I dont care if she's good or not, just if they're fun. Im still debating whether to buy her next or not.

[@HighfireGuys2]

Why can't Shinobi like gouge out the eyes or stab into the lower region and cut him open or even choke the guy to death? Why did For Honor give Shinobi 80% decapitations for the executions when those weapons cannot decapitate? These are questions we take to our graves.

[@LoneWolf3571]

I swear Get Back Here did not take off the head on release

[@mylittleyuriclan4621]

Will you ever grade their in game fighting?

[@loganfox6982]

Can we get a legendary double episode?🥺

[@thedoctor2466]

Lmao I had a feeling these were gonna get a low score

[@xxdiortuff1946]

Hey, can you do a black prior rated special since he got a new skin and all.

[@WHALLEXx]

Please can you make a exexution graded for Aramusha?

[@jaguarwarrior7627]

It is an acceptable score to me

[@iZkingzz]

Please grade Aramusha

[@kalebmcgee7678]

Yes

[@TheWoodWraith]

I never realized how many decapitations the character who is essentially equipped with Warpicks had until I watched this.. And quite honestly, Kama and Warpicks in general are somewhat intimidating with their penetrative power, so I don't think calling them ineffective weapons is fair. That being said, yeah they wouldn't be great Soldier's weapons, but that might be why it's a Shinobi's weapon. Skallagrim actually made a video 6 years ago (at the time of writing this) where he bought and tested a 'tacticool' Kama, which surprised him in terms of how effective it was during testing. Here's the link if you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXS5k2qfqrura7s However, saying that they aren't good decapitating/dismembering weapons is entirely fair and I agree with that LMAO. And overall I enjoyed the video.

[@Pistolpredator]

If I ever buy shinobi I’m put dismemberment mode off😂

[@qtYuria]

To anyone who sees this what do you guys think about Scythes on a battlefield

[@knightmare1267]

It's another farming tool, it doesn't belong on a Battlefield. Give us an actual weapon, like a spear, axe and shield viking, or chinese Jian.

[@typicalzay9032]

He got beat down

[@connorwilcox146]

Would like to see you use a different weight for ur execution grading, it seems like overall score doesn’t seem to line up with your actual opinion on quality. For instance, if there was a quick execution where the hero touched the forehead of a the victim with their weapon and their head just exploded, that would get both a 4 for lethality and efficiency and would get a minimum score of 62%, which seems way too high for a shitty execution like that. Maybe increase the weights of certain categories or give the opportunity for one or two extra credit points for exceptional performance in one area/negative points for exceptionally poor performance in one area?

[@elshebactm6769]

🤠👍🏿

[@vorpalkickass8825]

Shinobi is fun to play, but the executions, and the fashion suck. Like... it's horrible. the kama are treated like laser blades, the fashion is just rags in vaarious colors with too much misc gear cluttering up the look. Honestly, aesthetically the character sucks too much to play her long at one sitting.

[@BoltYT_]

This is why shinobus exes are just terrible lol but yeah they treat shinobis weapons like he has em wrapped around his wrists kratos style and just yeah overall I haven't laughed so hard like the ratings are so bad for shinobi and they have EVERY RIGHT TO BE BAD BECAUSE THE EXES ARE JUST NOT WOWING OR IMPRESSIVE.

[@bobisuncanny2760]

That's pretty much why i don't like your rating system, it is very unfair for unrealistic design like Shinobi, but just imagine Shugoki, Jormungandr, or Shaman ... 🙁

[@kotamiwusaki9069]

Loser