Zeratul beholds the Overmind's corpse

StarCraft 2 Wings of Liberty CO-OP 13 Echoes of the Future
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[@smlee6748]

Pain, surprise, death? Sounds like Gantrithor to me

[@WhiteFangofWar]

'I can sense this creature's final, dying thoughts... 'Oh Fuuuuck'?' With all the island Zerg bases hidden around this map I thought there would be an achievement for killing them all.

[@InfestedCommander]

I wonder why the Overmind's face still looks intact even after getting rammed by the Gantrithor.

[@ExecutorNral]

In cinematic, the Overmind torn into pieces but somehow it looks intact here. Clearly Blizzard forgot everything about SC1 before making the 2nd game.

[@Vantud391]

Retconned, not forgot​@@ExecutorNral

[@KingLich451]

@@Vantud391 bad writing

[@InfestedCommander]

@@Vantud391 I wonder why Blizzard retconned a lot or some things that happened in StarCraft.

[@llamadelreyii3369]

@@InfestedCommander given development of the game, higher ups wanted this in a certain way, changed devs more than a few times. You can see why the it happened.

[@myriadmediamusings]

Between "Tassadar" and "Fenix", they really did love to tease beloved dead Protoss in SC2 didnt they?

[@nielconvoy1473]

Also Zeratul

[@Hlodolog]

Yep, they killed their favourite heroes so fast they decided to take a step back

[@retloclive9118]

To this day, Colossi being underneath Aiur this whole time is one of the most bs things I've ever seen. Someone, especially on Tassadar's side, would have surely awoken those things during the Overmind's Zerg invasion.

[@ExecutorNral]

Man, almost nothing make sense in SC2...

[@CrazyJabberwock]

SC2 needs a Redux where assets developed later in the series can be used to patch these, Just swap those things out for Reavers and it would be just fine. Not to mention using the SC1 skins for the Zerg wherever possible considering its the old broken swarm.

[@TheHappy115]

Lets not forget the worldships like the Spear of Adun. Considering that all the protoss warriors basically come from that ship in all of the LotV missions, that ship alone could of probably taken out most of the Zerg. (And apparently there are more of them LUL)

[@GaussianEntity]

The Colossus were built and used during the Aeon of Strife. Basically the reason they were not activated was due to collective trauma. Same reason the Conclave hated the Dark Templar.

[@OldSkullSoldier]

@@GaussianEntity Nah, the reason they were not activated were SC1 engine limitations. It was probably like: "Executor: Aldaris, why don't we wake up the Collossi and send as reinforcment to Tassadar, Zeratur and the Terrans? Aldaris: Blasphemy! What could they possibly know about cliff-climbing. This hasn't been invented yet!" Well, it's bs. They should have gone for inventing the Collossi by supercharging Terran Laser technology with Protoss energy sources. Note that Protoss had no laser weapons at all in SC:BW. Spear of Adun is even more bs, so many warriors frozen, why these were not used against Overmind? And where did all the Nerazim, Purifiers and Tal'darim (+all units that are not in SC1) get there in first place? Or these come from their worlds, in such case Spear of Adun is just a transport and battle vessel?

[@chanathipkovorakul1639]

Overmind foresaw the end of the universe but it didn't see Gantrithor coming.

[@ahha6304]

HERE LIES THE GANTRITHOR oh hi

[@brainfreeze9952]

And so, 16 terabytes of the Overmind's fanfiction poured into Zeratul

[@nonya1366]

Now we know why Zeratul is acting different, mentally scarred.

[@GaussianEntity]

All while the Overmind sings Caramel Dansen in the background

[@Endru85x]

Zeratul" I read Overmind thoughts thanks to touching his tendrils". Raynor "So what was the last thing Overmind seen?" Zeratul speaking in Tassadar voice " I,m gonna put some Ganthritor in your eye".

[@razorback9999able]

It would've been more interesting if this mission exclusively had SC1 Zerg units to fight against, including the elite ones like Hunter Killers and the Torrasque.

[@Endru85x]

Fair point. It,s kinda strange you fight against roaches which were not a part of zerg force back then. Or why Colossi were hidden all this time in the water?

[@yoavhayun4590]

This is the mission where the story committed sudoku. Tassadar calling the Overmind a good boy and "he was actually fighting the bad guy all along!" Is the moment I knew the narrative is past salvation.

[@RaceBandit]

11:12 | The biggest coward in the Koprulu Sector, ladles and gentenners. Not Tassadar, but Ouros.

[@CT-2187_Jek]

i am glad the observer i had positioned is still active, i was worried the Zerg would have discovered it and brought it down. as for the base Zeratul reactivated that was my old base i had to abandon due to the overwhelming number of the Zerg.

[@rawfleshStarCraft615]

1:02 But most of the Zergs are leaderless without the Overmind. 1:49 I can't believe this, the Protoss shouldn't abandoned their lovable base behind. That's what I called sloppy. 2:07 Eeek it's the Tripods!

[@rawfleshStarCraft615]

Return of the Eye of the Storm.

[@tunch90]

Plot twist: the overnind isn't dead, she pretend because is scared of another Gantrithor in the eye

[@starcraft2f2p77]

Overmind is he.

[@tunch90]

Not in my localization

[@gesticulationstation6094]

Any time a campaign mod remotely gives me the ability to clear out the zerg bases in the top section of the map I do it out of sheer spite for those attack waves. Doesn't stop them in all of 'em, but it makes me happy.

[@alfredlaalpacadeageofempir9215]

>Llama Model on Hive Workshop, Let's Faqing Go! >1:10 Operation: Battle of Yaldabaoth. ◽6:05 *Gantrithor_Collision_Flashback.flv* ◽9:30 Determined To Protect The Future. ◽10:13 I've won, all according to keikaku (''Keikaku'' means ''plan''). ◽10:57 Driven Mad From The Revelation. >1:27 Very Silly ''Void Seeker'' Void Sail. >2:04 Colossi; Heavy Fighting Machine. >3:29 Only Most Refined Male Humour. >4:17 Operation: Gateway To Heaven. >7:45 Raynor Raiders Ruined Remains. >3 Players, 2 Colossus, Host Excluded. >I find Overmind's Plan very omoshiroi (''Omoshiroi'' means ''amusing'').

[@jackdaone6469]

Did anyone else hate this plot twist of the Overmind just being a pawn for Amon all along, or was it just me? I hated that the Overmind was completely stripped of its agency in the grand scheme of things, being forced to create Kerrigan to liberate the Zerg and necessitate simping. All of his gravitas and charisma was undermined by that twist. I would’ve done better and had the Overmind have a plan A and B, that Plan B was Kerrigan and Plan A was him beating Amon’s agents to the punch in creating the Hybrids that they would be under his direct control and thus be powerful enough to free him. But alas…we had to simp.

[@OnlyDeathIsEternal]

I do also dislike all this retconning and retroactively adding information to where it was not needed before. I feel the same way about them stripping the Overmind of it's agency and all this prophecy stuff is made solely so Kerrigan is absolved of all of her sins and prevent half the setting from taking revenge on her.

[@GaussianEntity]

It was heavily implied in the books though. How else did the Overmind suddenly turn on the Xel'naga? You could say that the Protoss turning to infighting was a sign that they were not perfect creators but they had full control of the Overmind so that it didn't happen again.

[@starcraft2f2p77]

​@@GaussianEntityAmon unleashed the zerg, after being discovered by other xelnaga.

[@LordRyan9999]

Courage? More like PTSD

[@rRecoveryProd]

if only it turns out Tassadar was a Xel'Naga all along rather than it be some other one using his image to lead Zeratul on.

[@lhfirex]

I think I forgot this mission even exists. I remembered liking the other two Zeratul missions but this one's just wtf.

[@EnigmaGamer421]

Damn,the Overmind looks dead as hell after the GANTRITHOR Rammed into it

[@lhfirex]

Zeratul after getting this weird retcon of nearly everything about the Zerg in SC1 that barely makes any sense: "I do not understand, brother." Me too, brother, me too. I guess now I see that "Blizzard doesn't play their own games" was happening way earlier than WOW expansions like MOP.

[@Endru85x]

Never played Wow, but i once watched a summary of all WoW expansions and my head hurt from all the BS they pulled. It also reminds me of NRS Mortal Kombat games. They made 4 MK games and 2 of them are based around time travel/resets, and one introduce a concept of multiverse. That,s what happens when you write your story into a corner so you turn a former villain into "not so bad guy who actually save us" or you revive dead characters, or introduce the secret weapon nobody ever heard of before.

[@bonbondurjdr6553]

I dislike this plot twist and I dislike that they chickened out of completing it (if it really was Ouros all along then why did he not warn Zeratul of Amon?)

[@mehtWPD]

by the way, we recall the fact that Zeratul actually already knew everything that the Overmind knew, after killing the cerebrate

[@bonbondurjdr6553]

@@mehtWPD you did just remind me. All I knew was that the Overmind stole Zeratul's location of Aïur. Also, another fun bit if we keep digging plot holes caused by mind fusion: if the lady in the Spear of Adun could look into Amon... shouldn't she have known about Ouros as well?

[@mehtWPD]

@@bonbondurjdr6553 I think so

[@tehy123]

Yeah, it only makes Artanis seem like even more of a loser. It would've made sense for Tassadar to also become a space god to give the Protoss some representation, why not do that?

[@bonbondurjdr6553]

@@tehy123 especially in the Protoss expansion!

[@rawfleshStarCraft615]

11:16 Tassadar!

[@pinroshan020]

It's Flesh Inidoro Time! :)

[@Vantud391]

Zeratul connected with Overmind's tentacles.💀😨 It's weird and doesn't make sense that that the map dev put zerg drop pods in this mission.

[@razorback9999able]

It would make sense if the map dev removed SC2 Zerg units and used exclusively SC1 Zerg units.

[@GaussianEntity]

I feel like the ideas behind the Zeratul missions were interesting but they were poorly executed. Rather than have Zeratul look for the Overmind, they should've had him look into the memories he previously got from the first time he struck Zasz. That would've made more thematic sense without needing to invoke the concept of "Jedi spirits" in Protoss form.

[@mrmarmolerox]

3:29 so did he saw pingas?

[@rRecoveryProd]

Does the 3-player In Utter Darkness at least have a button for putting an early end to the mission once you reach the quota?

[@TheExecutor01]

3:35 vesPINGAS? Sounds like a Cuban Spanish joke to me (cuz I'm cuban)

[@ExecutorNral]

It's a reference to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bobQiYtoZt-Jo9U

[@TheExecutor01]

@@ExecutorNral Thanks for the reply (Pingas is a Bad word in my country)

[@AA-ou9yd]

I always think it’s weird that Protoss can summon buildings and units from somewhere else when they are on Aiur or when they are ‘stranded’. Where do they come from??

[@Endru85x]

Maybe from some kind of hidden dimesion. Or they have some kind of factory that assembles the building and allows to send anywhere? Just my theories, i find it strange that in the mission "In utter darkness" you are able to summon units. Where do they come from if you are supposed to play with remnants of Protoss race?

[@starcraft2f2p77]

Undersea factories.

[@TheJoshuaDrifter]

Will you play heart of the swarm co-op?

[@ExecutorNral]

yes

[@Storm2war]

How difficult this mission was?

[@DRaGoN-ph4bo]

Why Blizzard did not hire the OG voice actor of Tassadar? His voice was so mighty and wise in SC1 and in SC2 it just changed without any good reason...