The Rise and Fall Of Assassin's Creed

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[@icemann1419]

The fact that they won’t do any sequels for any of the deserving assassins is mind boggling when you realize Ezio is the most beloved assassin character because he had the sequels.

[@Scirollo]

Arno and Bayek deserved sequels for sure.

[@andreagarton5535]

Idk about Arno - I haven’t played his game, but definitely Bayek and Connor deserve a sequel in my opinion!

[@zVampiirePlatypus]

​@@andreagarton5535 play rogue and then unity and you'll see why arno should get the sequel.

[@aldric1654]

​@@zVampiirePlatypus true arno deserves character development like ezio I wish arno would confront shay For killing his father if ubisoft ever decided to make a sequel

[@justinkimberlyrowley4465]

I think focusing on 1 character like that was too limiting to the history of the assassin's. Everyone loves ezio including me but the game was becoming about him when there was so much more to unpack.

[@RestingJudge]

I remember being 13 and getting AC2 right after a dentist appointment. I think I ditched class two days in a row and walked home just to play it. One of the most nostalgic games of that era

[@2inches2hard]

I was 15 and would wake up an hour early just to play a little more of AC3 before getting ready for school. The memories.

[@krombopulost4699]

​@@2inches2hard yo it's crazy cuz I would stay up till 3 in the morning. Wake up at 10. Run to school which was 10 mins down the road. 3 on my bike. I would get to school at 10.30 for homeroom. So I was never absent.

[@adithyagopan8129]

​@@krombopulost4699 I remember playing AC3 the day before exams at school way past midnight coz the story was too damn good.

[@krombopulost4699]

@Kenny lol no. It started at 8:45. I used to skip first period n directly show up in homeroom. I did that for months. Cuz I'd be gaming all night

[@TayRich93]

Lol I remember ditching to play gta vc or gta San Andreas

[@2inches2hard]

I was one of the few that really liked AC3. I thought it was a great story with a brutal protagonist in his combat. He fought with anger and you could feel it.

[@Camera_Speeds]

My favorite as well

[@DevilHunter1994]

I'll admit that I was a bit underwhelmed by AC3 when I first played it, but after giving it a second chance, it became one of my favorite games in the series. Actually playing through the Homestead missions also did a lot to help me appreciate Connor as a protagonist.

[@cuzco1165]

Best AC ever

[@JADub87]

Connor was a beast.

[@luckyplvys]

I’ve always loved this game!

[@SonicluNerdGamer]

I think the real problem is that they don't actually want to make Assassin's Creed anymore. Assassin's Creed was born of them being tired of making PoP and wanting something new, but now they don't have the balls to drop AC for something new, so they make something new without actually dropping AC. So we get these Frankenstein's Monsters amalgamations of new ideas + the wrong things from AC.

[@benjaminwoodman]

Nah, they just gunna revert back to PoP with the remake😂

[@tydendurler9574]

Yeah...no. It's just capitalism. Period.

[@SonicluNerdGamer]

@@tydendurler9574 well yeah, but that's the problem everywhere with everyone and every company, I am talking more about the problem that the developers are facing

[@tydendurler9574]

@@SonicluNerdGamer the devs are facing that they have to get paid...so they have to do as they're told. They are tools essentially.

[@TheLeftCulprit]

That's exactly it. UBI is just stringing it's devs along to pump out whatever the brand needs to make money, but Ubi execs are braindead AF and don't know what players actually want. Kinda sad cuz this franchise had potential to maintain its legacy

[@_erondel4563]

I think where Ubisoft truly digged their own grave was the moment they decided to go with Syndicate instead of following Arno's story into Napoleon's empire. Unironically Arno had the potential to be the second great character of the franchise, but we never got to see his fully realised potential, only a small section of it in Dead Kings. I still think even with the bugs Unity is in the top three AC games (next to Brotherhood and Black Flag) so it's sad to see them instantly jumping ship just because of the idiotic decisions of the higher ups at Ubisoft.

[@pinseekergaming4760]

And shay's arc. Connors as well and Aveline. They probably would have tied it up perfectly. I still think they'll finish it though. I've heard the v r game has returning characters coming back and their planning a sequel for it. On last date planned to do something with infinity as well it's hard to say. I don't see them completely abandoning this maybe they're just not getting to it yet. Or i'm just holding out Too much hope

[@_erondel4563]

@@pinseekergaming4760 Ubisoft refused to tie up the 2008 Prince of Persia's story too. It's DLC ended on an obvious sequel-bait, plus the Nintendo DS game which once again finished with a cliffhanger, but because the game didn't sell well enough, they never cared afterwards. And that was 15 years ago, before the company went off the rails.

[@pinseekergaming4760]

@@_erondel4563 🤷‍♂️

[@unicorntomboy9736]

​@@pinseekergaming4760 AC Rogue should have had Haytham Kenway as the protagonist, not Shay Cormac. That was the biggest mistake that game made

[@rickoshay5525]

Ubisoft torpedoed my interest when they refused to give Kristen Bell the pay she was asking for, and so they assassinated her character Lucy, no pun intended.

[@alexx123ify]

I still think bayek should have had a sequel, they had a pretty good protagonist on their hands and to say how important he is to the whole thing his story should have really been expanded.

[@katrez.]

Agreed. My man deserved his own trilogy despite what the others say.

[@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349]

Origins was underrated!!

[@alexx123ify]

@@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349 it's definitely the best of the last 3 IMO

[@giuSE2004]

That's the problem, they don't do what the fans actually want, I can remember that littleraly 90% of the people who played origins wanted a Bayek sequel because he's a great character instead we get some demi god in ancient Greece who is nothing ac and is just a shit character, this is just one example tho of what's wrong with ac now

[@dennispommes100]

Origins is shit

[@al_my_pal]

I was born in 95. Class of 14. The nostalgia for the good Assassin's Creed games is solidified with my developing years.

[@benjaminwoodman]

Class of 15. The last actual AC game was released when I was graduating (Syndicate)

[@TheLeftCulprit]

​@@benjaminwoodmanyup and it was just kinda weak. The game itself was aight but there was no overarching modern story so it felt pointless.

[@elxse4478]

Damn u making us all feel old , class of 2017

[@AC-hj9tv]

Class of 2024 here!!

[@gandalfhan]

Bayek is one of the few protagonists that are worthy of a sequel. Just imagine a sequel set in Ancient Rome where we observe rise and fall of Cleopatra and Mark Antony and see how Aya assassinates her while Bayek could target Mark Antony. Aya and Bayek now in their mid 50s, both seasoned mentors focused on expanding the brotherhood. With current technical capabilities, we could have ability to switch between Aya and Bayek with parkour and stealth being as good as in Unity or even better in busy Rome. Plus, we could see transition of Roman Republic to Roman Empire by Augustus. There is so much room for a sequel.

[@swimmingincirclez6930]

To me the fact that Bayek didn't receive a sequel is sickening. Dude was the founder of the hidden ones with such a great story and his character development throughout the game was awesome. Plus you're in ancient Egypt exploring pyramids and the hidden tech inside them. Idk how it gets much better than that. Keep that going thru bayek and ayas lives atleast so we can get the sense of their arc and some closure.

[@flatpepsi]

Goddamn it that's a really good idea, dude. I would play that in a heartbeat.

[@scott19087]

Please see if ubisoft is hiring, you need to work there 🙏

[@kmdreacts]

That ship sailed off with Edward Kenway, unfortunately 😔

[@rafsanpantho364]

Ac1. the og with unique ideas. Ac2-Ac Revelations. the great achievements and the peak of ubisoft. Ac3. The ambitious yet flawed one. Ac4. The lightning in a bottle. Ac Rogue. The underrated gem. Ac Unity. The massacred masterpiece. Ac Syndicate. The master on none. Ac Origins. The new path. Ac Odyssey. The good fantasy rpg but not ac. Ac Valhalla. The last straw that broke ubisoft's back.

[@ChoperJoJo]

I honestly miss the mysticism that surrounded Altair, he was so epic.

[@Trump2024forAmerica]

He is my favorite AC character. Maybe it’s because I played the original when I was a little dude but I think he’s the coolest.

[@fecaliro26]

@@Trump2024forAmerica he is the best

[@AC-hj9tv]

What he do

[@Zeusbolt25]

When he said He was only 5 years old , I felt somewhat like an elder

[@jackzera7356]

Same, i was playing AC1 to Revelations while i was in university.

[@dodesskiy1]

Makes perfect sense, profanity, sexual humor. They targeted the small kids with that in a very so so game compared to so many others. And milked their parents for it too, year after year. The only reason I can see why those older games got so popular, well other than the whole anti hero, anti government thing. That grabbed many too. I played the older games recently, they came out years after Zelda Ocarina, and Metal Gear Solid. Some aspects are plain bad. At least by the Black Flag they did improve a bit.

[@TVAlien]

Man Syndicate is the only one I've completed and wanted more of. So by default it's my favorite one.

[@User_PC_Loadletter]

It’s such a cool world they made. Agreed

[@kingty3187]

I believe AC Origins was nothing short of a entertaining masterpiece. If they would’ve had a Rome sequel and added more of the core or original ideas of the AC Franchise pillars, it would’ve been nothing short of amazing and Bayek would’ve been the new series mascot.

[@akz212]

They could've done a trilogy with him/the founding of the creed

[@peeko_luxx2873]

I completely agree. But also for Arno and Edward. They could of made a mini trilogy for each character. They should go back and just tell more stories with beloved characters. Think that would sell greatly. Imagine a more fleshed out open world experience to some of the better games with more likable characters. Didn’t quite care for the last couple installments in the franchise or the main character you play as for that matter. Bayek was the last character I felt a connection to and actually enjoyed the story telling along with dialogue. Everything got kinda dumbed down after that. Just my opinions. Cheers

[@Carno_Yujia]

Truly! It's a lost potential.

[@ac_nerd9794]

Yes, I completely agree but AC Odyssey and AC Valhalla are not complete garbage. Yes, both have numerous issues but they are at their core both lore expansive in the franchise. Bayek to me is the true peak of this franchise and Origins will always be my favorite game in the franchise.

[@dawsynasay4841]

@@ac_nerd9794 I enjoyed the writing aspect of Valhalla and the world of Odyssey and it’s respectful rendition of Greece

[@lucianwong420]

I used to think Connor was boring. He kinda was, until i played those homestead missions. After playing those missions, Connor is now one of my favorites.

[@franciscor390]

Really good missions and fleshed out many characters.

[@aliceinwonderland4395]

Yeah those were unforgettable experiences. Homestead missions may as well have been a campaign in themselves.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

@@aliceinwonderland4395 They should have made Connor similar to Bayek regarding personality

[@Mirandelorean]

Thank you! Someone actually did those missions. I've always liked his character despite some of his shortcomings. Nobody could understand his cultural background and behavior.

[@Rhonu]

I loved AC3 right off the bat. As much as I truly enjoyed Ezio, I was feeling the Ezio fatigue near the end of Revelations. I resonated with Connor more because of his more introvert personality, I was already very interested in American history (I'm from Europe) and even as a kid I was fascinated with Native American culture. So to me AC3 was perfect because it had all those things, and on top of that it introduced Haytham who is hands down one of the best AC characters period. AC3 still counts as one of my all time favorite AC games, alongside Brotherhood and Unity. As for Black Flag, despite my love for pirates, I didn't much care for it, purely BECAUSE it didn't feel like an AC game to me. I've only beaten it once. Hell I've played Rogue more than I've played Black Flag (mostly because of Haytham). I'll definitely give Black Flag another run in the future though, I think I'll enjoy it more this time around. And despite my Ezio fatigue in Revelations, I'm also fond of that game because of Altaïr, the OG who will always rank as one of my favorite AC characters. This game made me ugly cry at 3 in the morning when Ezio finally found Altaïr. 10/10 would recommend lol. I also never bothered with Syndicate and Odessy, and Origins took me a loooooong time to finish. I got bored near the end and forced myself to see it and the DLCs through. I've yet to start Valhalla but I fear that's also gonna be a slog to play through at some point, despite my heavy interest in Norse Mythology. I'll get around to it at some point. So yeah, definitely a love/hate relationship with AC right now. I'm... cautiously optimistic for Mirage and if it really ends up being as good as it currently sounds, I really hope the future game set in Japan will follow in its footsteps.

[@RamakrishnaAppicharla]

Hi, I really enjoyed your opinions about AC right now. I have an unpopular opinion. May be the Black Flag is the game where the AC downfall has started. I loved the gameplay and Edward is a great character but I have to wait till the end of the story to see how Edward is connected to the brotherhood. I really didn't took it well as I have been coming from AC2, Brotherhood, Revelations and AC3. Haven't played Unity and Rouge because I am really afraid to play because of all the criticism. May be I should take a look now as you have mentioned AC Unity has good story and good character. I have played Syndicate but the story is turnoff for me... AC Origins has very good story and Bayek is a great AC character with deep story and lovely connection to the whole brotherhood and hidden ones. Gameplay is new I really didn't like it because of RPG. I love RPGs but couldn't able to digest AC in RPG setting. I regret playing Odyssey unfortunately it's a selling scam by using beloved AC name. I think same for Valhalla. But Valhalla is not an AC game for me but a standalone RPG. I have started playing Valhalla now and the RPG elements are good... Sorry if I offended anyone... Ezio is the best character ever...

[@dianabtz2191]

I personally liked every single assassin's creed game . Each was different and each told a different story - I loved all of them :).

[@ZukoTRD]

I definitely enjoyed all of them as well, it is hard for me to say that all of them are "assassin's creed" games though. I put over 100 hours in Valhalla but never felt like an Assassin. You had Basim in the game and he was just there. You didn't get to play as part of the Assassins. As a stand-alone game, Valhalla was good, but not as an AC game.

[@BrainrotCinema]

I love Assassin's Creed because of the movie but never played the games do you mind giving me a few AC games to play before I get AC Mirage?

[@mrlunar62]

@@BrainrotCinemaif u want a game that’s easy to get into, fall in love with, it’s odyssey. If u want the ac feeling…don’t

[@BrainrotCinema]

@@mrlunar62 so it's Odyssey or no game?

[@roxtaramir]

​​@@BrainrotCinemago for the Ezio trilogy for the best AC experience. Go for Black Flag for a fun casual Assassin/Pirate experience. Get Unity if you have tolerance for bugs but want the best parkour experience with great side content.

[@michaelofstjoseph]

The only assassin creed I ever played was the first and it was really impressive for its time.

[@theportugueselegend]

I reccomend playing another one. I was a kid when I played my first one, AC3, but I grew up and, as a big fan of History, the new games give me goosebumps. Except for Valhalla, but the Viking Age doesn't say much to me, might be that too

[@ac_nerd9794]

​@@theportugueselegend Origins is perfect in my opinion.

[@GTAVictor9128]

The original AC was my first (that I bought on discount a few years after it came out), but I never fully finished it. AC Black Flag was the first AC game where I not only finished the main story, but all of the side content too.

[@cliffl7]

You have to at least play the second one haha

[@MegaHeelhook]

Bayek was the future, they hit the reset button perfectly with his story, and Aya's, it was a wonderful story to expand into the trilogy it should have become.

[@nGUNNARp]

i think the truth is people fall in love with games that come out when they're like 8-15 years old...no matter what garbage is coming out, those always feel like the best days of gaming

[@tydendurler9574]

This + "kids really can't judge shit" Almost everybody born after 2000 is totally lost because they grew up with constant Internet, MMO's, open world craziness in gaming general and social media.

[@thelastpersononearth9765]

Yeah, like sometimes the newer games are just straight up better, but they are too be blinded by nostalgia. Some say vice city was better than Gta v, Bloodmoney better than WOA, Far cry 2 over 5.etc

[@Hazadak1ng]

​@@thelastpersononearth9765 ah yes locked paywall content,endless grinding,political agenda and overpriced dlc is better🤥

[@riikyricardo]

Ubisoft’s fall from trailblazers to trend chasers is utterly embarrassing

[@petergriffin3194]

I remember I bought Unity like in January and I noticed that there were so many cockades and chests scattered around the city

[@histhoryk2648]

And then RPG's came out and said: Amateurs

[@Scirollo]

It's funny too because Unity honestly aged very well. The fluid mechanics hold up so well even when revisiting the game today. When the pandemic hit I had gone in and 100% Achieved the whole game and was loving every second of the parkour. Unity really was a pretty solid game and an instance where doubling down on it for a sequel would have paid off in the long run. The Syndicate happened. The first AC game that I never purchased, and for good reason. That was the first MAJOR setback by Ubisoft for me. But they completely bounced back with Origins. Origins was in my eyes, based on the circumstance, a very very solid game with a deep story that connected us to Bayek. That was the first game I've ever bought the DLC for and I'm glad I did, the Hidden Ones DLC was worth every dollar and then some. When Odyssey came out I think I puked my lunch up, worst AC game ever made, hands down. I think it wasn't until the pandemic hit where I decided to try it out and play it through, near the end I kind of gave up the idea that it was an AC game and just played it like a standalone mercenary game and the experience was a little less undesirable, but the copy and paste missions as well as the copy and paste camps + dungeons was just disrespectful. Valhalla I didn't even buy, what a shit game. Mirage is their saving grace to save the franchise and show them that story telling, rather than mindless RPG, is what their games need and it's what their success was built on. Stop herding and build upon what worked from the beginning

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5002]

I found Origins pretty boring and Odyssey really fun

[@Scirollo]

@@uhtredofbebbanburg5002 I think if you are more of a fan of gameplay than story development, then you will favour Odyssey over Origins. I got hooked on Assassin's Creed because of the story and Odyssey was just a spit in the face to that aspect. Also, Last Kingdom is such a great show!!

[@john-doemcalias4759]

@@Scirollo i thought the story of odyssey was great. It took a while to get to the point but then again by the end i looked back and thought "god, what a journey". Sure its not true to the original and goes wild with the fantasy elements but it justifies itself with its future plot. Is medusa really more silly than an ancient alien race influencing geopolitics? The games have ALWAYS been silly but this one had super tight mechanics and the combat was the most engaging of the series. Each to their own i suppose? I thought Valhalla was hot garbage and its way more of a spiritual successor (mechanically) to the OG

[@tj-co9go]

Well. Odyssey was kind of boring to be honest. One of the prettiest games I have seen, but empty map, not a good story and repetitive. Origins was kind of good, at what it tried to do. I enjoyed the main story. In a way it was a stepping stone between RPG and traditional Assassin's Creed AC Syndicate feels like a game with such lost potential. The game world is beautiful and lively. I enjoyed cart riding and trains, factories, all that jazz, of the era. But the story, and game mechanics were shit. One of the few fun things were the child liberations since they had actual stealth. They even had have Karl Marx as a character and they wasted the opportunity and made him so fucking bland normal people. If you know any history you know how much more interesting he was in reality. Could have been one of the major characterd, but was just a side one. Must be due to capitalist (aka Templar) conspiracy, you can't have too much social criticism in a game after all. Same with Dickens and Darwin, just wasted due to bad writing. Nothing like Machiavelli or Da Vinci in AC2 and Brotherhood. Yeah overall Syndicate's biggest flaw was bad writing, really ruined the game. Sad, because Victorian era industrialisation for me is like the most interesting era possible. Unity had the best parkour in the series, I will give it that. And it was a good game, with a decent story.

[@pandaprince5869]

@@tj-co9go bro said odyssey is an empty map. did you really play it? lol. It is by far the ac game with the best side quests and nothing of it is repetitive . Story was great however I understand if you don't like how Kassandra's story is not much connected to the Hidden ones. I've played every AC game and all I can say is that people should stop looking at things with nostalgia glasses. rpg trio was a great experience.

[@thegamelabgaming7556]

To me one of the biggest letdowns of the AC games was there lack of giving characters multiple games to grow like Ezio, you have some massive potential with characters like Bayek & Arno that was never fully realized

[@jayfrankel8021]

I found Desmond and the modern day story to be the most compelling part of the franchise. Such a shame they lost the thread with the modern day protagonists.

[@Sleepy.Time.]

if you use the tweak pack mod to make your Odyssey character level 99 from the start it makes for a vastly better game, no more grinding to level gear, no more level gated world and no more stupidly OP high level god tier merc NPCs

[@nezukoclub652]

I didnt even finish the game because u gotta do so much to level up I was noted of it 60 hours later

[@uppin_downers]

that doesn’t make the game better.

[@charitybrook6279]

Idk why people are having this problem honestly odyssey is pretty easy not really a grind at all... And the side quests are interesting

[@Sleepy.Time.]

@@uppin_downers i am gonna guess you have not tried it have you

[@uppin_downers]

@@Sleepy.Time. i have 500 hours on it

[@canaaknight2305]

Completely agree. The foundations for what made the games timeless was never perfectly emulated in any of the releases, hence our constant dissatisfaction with the product when it’s marketed as this perfect assassin of experience.

[@SovietRussia777]

Odyssey was my favorite AC game tbh

[@justinosolisjs]

Unpopular opinion: AC 1 was the best of the entire franchise. The combination of near perfect authenticity with the culture of the times and gritty environment and the simple character and storyline of Altair, as opposed to the overly complicated Ezio, was just the perfect definition of Less is MORE. It's truly a masterpiece.

[@LtMewS]

Ezios story is not complicated but yes AC 1 is truly the one and only assassins creed game

[@Sunnykr275]

Your half point is agreed bro, AC 1 is a masterpiece on its own. Exploring so many cities the changes of architectural and his story was pretty good for its time. I agree but ezio story was also good not complicated at all it was nice and easy and that’s what made memorable

[@Trump2024forAmerica]

AC1 is indeed the greatest game.

[@jonharson]

The first one was a boring slog, played it a couple hours and couldn't take the super rigid progression, constant desynchronization and being yanked out to the "real world" constantly, uninstalled that trash and never looked back... It sucked

[@samdixon3719]

Unpopular opinion: black flag is INSANELY boring and repetitive asf

[@jorgewithaj98]

My favourite gaming franchise ever. Heartbreaking seeing it in this state 💔

[@tymiller176]

Meanwhile, I love the current state. Ezio games were kinda boring in comparison.

[@Carno_Yujia]

@@tymiller176 💀

[@johnrockyryan]

​@@tymiller176 I dont agree but I respect your opinion and I respect the balls on you for saying this on a video about how assasins creed isn't assasins creed anymore

[@SuperGamingpepper]

I haven't played valhalla yet but origins amd odyssey are my favourite assassins creed games the story in the ezio ones were better but the gameplay in the newer ones is a lot more entertaining

[@kparran79]

Same, played all of them up to odyssey, had to walk away. may come back if this new one delivers what they claim about going back to its roots.

[@jtlampman]

This is a really good and reasonable assessment of the franchise. Helps put all the iterations of AC into perspective.

[@GoBackToPort]

The 4 nails on each corner of the coffin… Unity, Syndicate, Odyssey and Valhalla I’ll add - I think Desmond dying the way he did also struck a nerve in fans.

[@aronimous_1015]

ironically the game franchise about kiling greedy and corrupt higher organisation was ruined by a greedy and corrupt higher organisation

[@dauntless_iz]

I am playing games since I was 8. From grand strategy to rts to rpg to actions to sports to horror, I am into all kinds of games. I was 14 when the first AC game was released. To me, 2007 was one of the turning point and one of the best time to be a gamer, living in the midst of a gaming industry revolution. Fifa 07 with manager mode was released last year, and then came Call of duty modern warfare, Crysis, and AC; ohh it was a great year to be a gamer. These games kindda made who I am now. Specially AC and Crysis, I've learned so much through AC about societies, morales and histories while Crysis created the backbone of my creativity and imagination. I have no problem of Ubisoft taking different approaches for making AC games, but for me, why I connected with the AC series was the connection of the modern day settings with the old ones. That was the core of the entire franchise in the beginning. Through Desmond's eyes we saw the non stop fighting of the assassins and the templars, while the end of the world is looming (Co-current with the Mayan prophecy hype during that time), and now Desmond must find a solution before December 21, 2012. The stakes were very high and that's what made completing these games more satisfying. For me, AC games never meant to be just another game to explore a certain part of history, but the settings of two secret organizations keep fighting to shape the world in their image, from modern day to the ancient, that was the core of the franchise. And when ubisoft casually killed off Juno; who was meant to be the next massive nemesis of humanity in the franchise, through a comics, and just thrown the modern day settings into the garbage, for me, that's what made AC series what it is now. An empty husk without a soul. There is nothing at stakes anymore, nothing but an endless fighting and exploring without any final goals. It's like playing CSGO offline, with bots, there is nothing to gain or nothing to lose. After black flag, If you play each game as standalone, they are pretty good games in their own terms and settings, with ups and downs like any other games. But when you take them all as a franchise, they feel so empty. The stakes are so meh. You need a strong antagonist or a higher stake in a franchise, like the end of the world scenario which had taken shape from AC II to AC III, like the cephs in Crysis, or Juno herself at the end of AC III. When you take that out from a franchise, it becomes what AC franchise is now. An empty husk like a zombie. I feel so sad to see what once mighty story telling franchise of my childhood has become now. 💔

[@jasongu1915]

If the previous ac games give the most organized storyline, the three open-world games really feel the culture. If they want to make the game memorable again, develop the character, main story line, and continue the pursuit of culture

[@zSTALKn]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Valhalla is the only AC game where Ezio can pillage a pagan settlement while shooting arrows from a bow that has too much voltage to safely wield with the comfort of being on top of a polar bear.

[@harry4454]

Played black flag on 5 different consoles i love it so much. I know its only a DLC but freedom cry doesn't get the attention it deserves. So nostalgic seeing the jackdaw sunk and how Adé talked about Edward

[@zenn3302]

You earned yourself a new sub, pretty good content

[@sicko115]

I'm not a fan of the AC3's map, but I really liked Connor. Dude was sneaky af and also a killing machine, all of that while having a stoic appearance and a entrepreneurial mindset while boasting a varied arsenal of weapons. Also his assassin's robe was really cool.

[@Exiled7]

Yeah that's fair, I think the best part of AC3 is the conversation around the ideological differences between the templars and Assassins.

[@lewisforsythe1533]

I actually really enjoyed ac rouge when I played it.

[@pgh3316]

I started by playing AC1 at my cousin's house when I was little and fell in love. When I finally got my own console was when the Ezio Collection had just come out, so obviously I played those and adored every second of it, revelations especially was super enjoyable to me. AC3 was great, but started pretty slow. Black Flag was good, but I didn't really enjoy how much the required ship upgrades felt like they slowed down for me. For me, unity came out a bit buggy but was just the absolute most fun I had with the series (in no small part due to the coop) and to this day is my favorite one. Rogue was there, didn't enjoy it much just a worse Black Flag imo. Syndicate I did actually enjoy quite a bit, but I didn't end up playing it as much as most of the other games. Origins wasn't too bad, but I hated the combat, Oddyssey... isn't assassins creed, Valhalla had okay combat and that is all. In terms of my favorite games probably Unity, Revelations, Black Flag

[@DELOMELANICON85]

I enjoyed all games except maybe syndicate.All had good parts and gave me the opportunity to travel down in the vistas of history

[@revenahja8676]

Syndicate parcour was peak imo

[@adamsmith2758]

About 20 hours into Mirage and it’s definitely a throwback. I don’t think anything will ever touch Black Flag, but we always love the games/music/culture that we had when our personalities were cemented. I do also enjoy Valhalla, it’s certainly too long and I hate that fantasy aspect, but it’s enjoyable once in awhile. Mirage on the other hand I’m invested in and will finish it this week

[@J.F.331]

I feel what Ubisoft should have done after Origins was move slightly forward in time. For example, in Valhalla you get to visit the abandoned Assassins guilds. What could have done is introduced a new character in England who becomes an Assassin and either meets a really old Amunet or she just passed away one generation before and see the aftermath of the Order of Ancients after Julius Caesar, perhaps in the days of Claudius or Nero or the Flavian Dynasty. There was so much expansion into England that they could have created a great story that actually felt like a sequel to all the work that Bayek and Amunet accomplished.

[@fecaliro26]

justt couldnt play more than 3 hours of origins odissey and valhalla. tthey are all just rpg wannabes and so boring

[@Sevatar_VIIIth]

Valhalla could have been badass, such a cool time period and it's a shame they pissed away that opportunity.

[@thenigerundayooooguy2752]

You make QUALITY videos man 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Exiled7]

Thank you!

[@1anfinity08]

I actually enjoy Valhalla to be honest. I went and started this game without thinking of it as an AC game so I didn't really mind the story. It kind of get repetitive at times but I just enjoy running around killing enemies. Maybe I am also biased because I love norse mythology and the viking age in general. But overall, I agree with most people for the most part. It's definitely a huge middle finger to the core fanbase. They should've just called the game Valhalla and maybe avoided pissing a lot of AC fans. The last AC game I played that honestly made me feel like an Assassin was Unity. Syndicate was kinda meh it just feels like I am a gang leader trying to liberate London from rival gangs

[@lyricofwise6894]

Even then the game was considered bad, if to remove AC from the title

[@mrlunar62]

@@lyricofwise6894the game was generally fine without the AC in the title. The gameplay was good, missions were kinda repetitive but overall were good, the story was diverse but sometimes boring and cliche, the weapons, loot, raiding, settlement upgrade, and boss fights were amazing. The problem is that if AC2 or 3 was to come out today, it would be dead in a week and everyone would hate it.

[@jamescabarr2921]

Ubisoft was trend chasing because Santa Monica's GoW was a beast and they are trying to copy the Norse Mythology.

[@TheAurgelmir]

My issue with the post Black Flag AC games is that the "Current time" story was more or less dropped. Sure Desmond was dead, but there were other ideas to be explored. One of the exciting aspects of the first three games were that you went into the Animus to find the location of an artifact in the modern day. Black Flag somewhat downplayed it, and made the real world slightly cumbersome and weird, but at least it was still there. For me this aspect of the game was what tied them together, and made me invested in the story. Origin was the last one I played, and frankly it was a mess. Gone was the good current era story, and frankly the story in Origins was poorly constructed too, it didn't FEEL like the origin of the Assassin order, especially since the protagonist never came off as a leader, just a pawn in everyone else's plots. His wife was frankly a more interesting character, and got way too much of the credit within the story too... One thing that always bugged me was something one of the current time characters in AC3 suggests, which would have been so awesome: "Why don't we turn the dial all the way back, and see what happens?" Imagine going all the way back to "biblical times" and see the escape from Eden, and the conflict of the Sons of Adam. Alas we got whatever AC is now instead.

[@dauntless_iz]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@skeeterfinklage445]

Ive never liked the current time part of the games. I'm here to play an assassin game in a historical setting. Why would I want to I want pause that so I can walk around an office building and talk to someone for 10 minutes? I always felt like that was unnecessary baggage. Imagine in-between main quests in Skyrim Bethesda does a weird self insert that only serves to interrupt the game. You want to make that part of the game? Make it its own game, Assassin's Creed: google. Then it can exist and I won't have to play it. I don't want the main bulk of what I'm here for to be a subplot behind a plot I didn't come here for.

[@jasonashley9853]

​​@@skeeterfinklage445 I have to disagree. Desmond, Lucy, Shawn, and Rebecca used to be an interesting core to the entire story. When Desmond was killed, it made the modern day boring and obtrusive. Before his death, it was a key part of what made the Ezio trilogy so great.

[@tabza]

Yeah, the franchise died for me after they dropped the modern day storylines.

[@tabza]

​@@skeeterfinklage445 Ah, now I see; impatient zoomers such as yourself ruined AC.

[@amir-ti7ok]

Nice video, u deserve much more subscribers :)

[@S4RG3N7]

I really really really hope that Mirage based on the original gameplay logistics, Unity Parkour and Ezii storyline. Anything like that would be a dream!

[@joshuatealeaves]

13 years old in 2007. Waking up at 3 in the morning to play AC1. Could not believe a game at that size was real. Haven’t played AC since Unity. It’s a different beast now 😔

[@franciscor390]

Believe me when i say you haven't missed much, nowadays AC is open world bloat and forgettable characters/stories.

[@RythymBeast]

Excellent video dude!

[@zenryzap3831]

Sequence 9 for unity was NOT. a leveling issue, that sequence was just the hardest sequence, I did a lot of side content and i still struggled, also you didn't have to do the side quests, litterally just getting from place to place would level you, fighting guards and other enemies would level you enough

[@Exiled7]

It’s the hardest sequence in the game all round from the start. That is an increase in levelling. Having more guards, more health and higher damage taken

[@Black-Pill-7411]

Syndicate is still my favorite...I love that victorian era setting

[@gadgeteers5021]

I think the real issue is about the lore of the game. As we go deeper into the root of the lore, it's all about the artifacts and first civilizations etc. It's no longer about the Assassin's Creed. I think that's also making it hard to create a character that is an assassin but also able to fight mythical beasts.

[@Pillock25]

13:42 The grappling hook was added because of the wider roads needed for the horse and carts, as you were unable to jump across most streets.

[@Trylena]

And its really fun to use to be honest. Syndicate is one of my favorites with Unity regardless to the parkour and transportation.

[@gemodemplay415]

You fore sure pissed me off with something in the past as I noticed I was no longer a Subscriber of yours but I resubscribed now cuz I liked this video and the likes of it.

[@Exiled7]

interesting. Welcome back then aha

[@gabi0h]

This so interesting - I had almost the opposite reactions to these games. I loved Syndicate, I loved Odyssey - never got into Origins or Unity haha. My first AC games was AC 2, then Brotherhood and I loved them too. Interesting how fans of the same game series can have such different opinions.

[@DeadFreakingPool]

Took me a few tries to fully get into Valhalla - it was difficult to really feel anything for it at the beginning. But I think letting go of any expectations helped me enjoy the game a lot more. Them trying to navigate being an assassin and a Viking is pretty contradictory. Also super weird they didn't include mechanics that worked pretty well in Origins and Odyssey especially with the RPG elements. But yeah, starting to feel the overly long playtime of it. Honestly, still waiting on a full AC game set in India. Until then, I'll play to enjoy being a duel dagger wielding Viking with dope tattoos.

[@jewboi419]

I'm currently playing Valhalla right now. I tried playing it once before but couldn't get into it. Just started it again after about a year not playing and I have 25 hours into it in 5 days lol. I just got to the part where you're playing as Odin. Which is weird but I think I'm having a good time with it lol

[@blacklung7474]

The rpg elements were light in origins and heavy in origins. They wanted to appeal to both the people that liked origins and odyssey.

[@wootle]

India would be awesome, Ubi captured the feel of Nepal pretty well with Far Cry 4. Indian mythology is ripe for the picking and frankly would be refreshing after the Marvel, DC superhero movie fatigue. Lets have Krishna kicking some ass and being a companion for the Assasin lol.

[@fecaliro26]

wow for me these rpg ones feel so bad, boring characters, boring gameplay and fake assasins and the worst of all is to row a freaking boat

[@Jaalgo]

great video man!

[@CliveRosfield16]

2012 was the end of any video game coming out after Black Ops 2. That’s when the world ended because for 3 straight years I didn’t know what ‘OUTSIDE” world looked like anymore.

[@joemomma2253]

The fast and furious of gaming

[@Bevtone]

So true

[@jonballou5982]

I personally like valhalla. Sure it isnt a good assassins creed game, but as an RPG i did enjoy the story. The city sections that actually had some social stealth were the best parts of the game. Once it all comes to a head (at the end of the story however which is a minus) the precursor and hidden ones stiff was actually pretty good. I especially like the secret ending when you kill all the order of the Ancients and meet with King Alfred/go to his study afterwards and read his journals and see the shift from the Order into the beginning of the Templars. But i understand why some fans didn’t like it

[@jordanjohnson6402]

They are all good games… he’s just dick sucking

[@Hairline848]

I’m going to be honest AC 2 had been my favorite since I got into them games when I was like 12 but I seriously love origins the setting the story. It takes my no. 1 spot

[@lukain630]

Hearing him say he was only 9 years old when AC2 came out makes me feel so old 😪

[@MojoVice]

AC Odessey is still one of my all-time favorite games.

[@Skaggs666]

Same, I’m replaying it right now as Kassandra and she’s definitely a better character than Alexios. He’s kinda nerdy but the story fits with Kassandra way better.

[@Adrian956txs]

It’s such an amazing game the exploration and the side quests got me hooked in right now

[@to_ps_ig]

You didn't play many games then

[@MojoVice]

@@to_ps_ig I suppose that's a matter of perspective. AC Odyssey, Skyrim, Eldin Ring, Black Flag, RDR2, Witcher, and Breath of the Wild are probably my favorite RPGs.

[@yukikaze8877]

Mine too. And I've been a fan of the AC franchise since the Revelations.

[@DOLLOTRONHTX]

I love Assassin's Creed but I feel like once unity launched everything went downhill but I think mirage might be able to bring assassin's creed back to it's roots

[@muddy_redneck4483]

I'm turning 36 this year. played every ac game since ac 1. I think you're pretty much on point with your critiques. I really enjoyed ac origins though. I dig the rpg elements but I like the classic games a lot too. I'm excited about their upcoming titles.

[@timlamiam]

i actually enjoyed Valhalla for quite a while. As a history nerd, being able to explore ancient civilizations in detail can gloss over alot of things for me lol.

[@therealivydawg]

I've been playing them since the beginning and the only one I never finished was syndicate. I've liked them all. To me I don't have a favorite I like each individual game on its own and don't hold one up over the others. I guess my favorite if I had to pick would be black flag.

[@carlosgrenada9867]

Im totally with you I have been an AC fan since the very first game was released I love the series and I am just hoping for it to return to its roots... Black Flag is one of the greatest games ever made but however I had a loooot of fun with Odyssee. I know it's hated a lot as an AC game but overall I loved it.

[@SovietRussia777]

Odyssey was my favorite to be honest lol

[@dodesskiy1]

@@SovietRussia777 Because out of them all it has the best stealth, it's the most fluid, and it's the only one where the story is personal and you are the one changing it. Meaning the family story. These guys are stuck in their 2007. BTW by 2007 AC1 was not all that, there were so many better games every year, many of them with real stealth, better combat. Maybe they loved the profanity and the sexual jokes Ezio did when they were teens and not allowed to see it in films, I don't know. Cause I played that stuff not long ago after decades of refusing to. It was worse than my ideas of what it was. Though I did like some of the later ones Black Flag and onward, while seeing how much their franchise held them all back. There was a great video about Origins that talks about it. It was expressing what I felt. Egypt awesome. So much there, bam I'm in the boring present. Same with Odyssey really. They wanted desperately for these few to like it. But they still didn't. Lots of it inserted the boring junk to somehow connect with the older ones where it made zero sense. Like in Black Flag I thought. It was clearly forced in, a square peg in a round hole.

[@Jesicca31]

I liked valhalla more then odyssey. The constant jumps into the modern day in odyssey for 5min convo that added nothing just were beyond annoying. Still annoyed that they made a time jump right before a boss fight

[@carlosgrenada9867]

@@Jesicca31 good point I hate the new protagonist she is terrible soulless and I straight up just wanted to not listen to any of the stuff leila said

[@jnort95]

Great Video!

[@landonbrown9943]

Black flag was my first introduction and been in love ever since

[@HenriqueHCA14]

Wanna know the difference of a AC3 player and an enjoyer? dual holsters. If a person rushes through the story and call it a day, they'll have the ''Connor is a dull character'' and ''repetitive gameplay argument''. But if you played the Homestead missions, you'll have more than good character development for Connor, you'll learn of the crafting system(hence the dual holsters) and will overrall have a more conclusive story. Also this is one of the reasons Achilles isn't in the later main missions, if you did Homestead quests along with the story you have full closure for his character. Hell i get surprised that some people didn't even knew you could send your Assassins for missions just like past games. Some people doesn't even know how to recruit Assassins. That's the magic of it, exploring the game and its mechanics, something that most people didn't do and called it boring when it's actually one of the most deep games in the franchise.

[@thelastpersononearth9765]

I am replaying it and i agree.

[@AK20500]

AC Unity was good because it maintained the essence of the assassin brotherhood and Templar war, the theme of stealth, and assassin robes whilst also showcasing historical accuracy. The issues were the overload of glitching bugs and the poor lighting/combat system. The parkour was amazing and I think the game overall is incredibly underrated.

[@RenegadeElite101]

Tensient being such a huge investor in Ubisoft is concerning, since they are little more than a sham company of the Chinese ruling gvt. They’ve gotten a lot of power over western game devs in the last few years so I’m sure they’ve had some part of the decisions made. Even if the influence is benign it’s likely a key consideration for Ubisoft as a company as Tensient is such a large shareholder

[@TriumvirSajaki]

Odyssey is definitely not an Assassin's Creed game, and it has its internal problems, but I still like it. The Peloponnesian War is one of my all time favorite historical eras to learn about, and an open world adventure RPG in that setting is perfect for me. The tie-in to the Assassin's Creed franchise is troublesome for me. I think it could be done well, but short of a really good tie-in, I'd rather it just be a standalone franchise.

[@J.F.331]

33:09 I am not confident that Ubisoft will deliver successfully with Mirage. It sounds ambitious but Ubisoft is no stranger to big promises and lack of delivery when all is said and done. Because I was extremely disappointed with Syndicate, Odyssey and Valhalla, I just can’t trust Ubisoft as a company and thus I can no longer be a day 1 or preorder customer of their games. I have no choice but to wait for reviews and see some gameplay before considering buying another game.

[@ac5788]

I'd say based on their content timeline alone this nostalgia trip is null and void.

[@Kritacul]

Ezio is THE best Assassin ever and that story was *”Chef’s Kiss”*

[@obigrumpywankenobi3204]

Origins was the only assassin's creed game that interested me , it was a fantastic game.

[@54032Zepol]

Same it's what revived interest into the game itself.

[@charitybrook6279]

Odyssey is better than origins in literally every way.

[@lucianwong420]

@@charitybrook6279 I played both, and i disagree. I played Origins until the end with all dlc without getting bored. But with Odyssey, I got bored of it after the main story. The game became so boring all of a sudden, i forced myself to play through the dlc's.

[@harry4454]

Black flag was incredible

[@stealth2811]

​@@charitybrook6279 origins have a interesting and trustable story, odissey suck is just cringe family troubles

[@undefined1022]

Unity is one of my top 3 Assassins Creeds

[@robertjv]

To be honest I love ac unity. I know it had glitches, the parkour was kinda slow and the story could've been a lot more because it was kind of short. But there's just something about the game that made me come back to it

[@shizzo68.]

I didn’t play the original games. I played Origins first and to be honest I enjoyed it, I think the RPG style is great. I am planning to play Odyssey and Valhalla first then I will play the original games.

[@54032Zepol]

Same it's what got me into assassins creed

[@natchu96]

of the three RPGs entries I do feel like Origins is the one that knew what it wanted to be the most and had the fewest overt flaws, though it _is_ rather basic mechanically. Odyssey felt like it really would be better off being its own series, and Valhalla just doesn't seem to know when to fucking end and tries to sell itself with sheer quantity alone.

[@revenahja8676]

I feel totally sorry for you. But it's okay everyone mistakes just learn from them and play ac black flag😉

[@sparkzmentalz2]

Gamepass, PS Plus, sales and Save Wizard are the best way to play these new AC games. Ezio trilogy will always be my favorite. Origins is pretty damn good and it's a shame they didn't follow up on Bayek's story.

[@carenthusiasts4119]

You can tell just by comparing two screenshots of an older ac game and a newer ac game. You can tell how much the franchise has changer, and I'm not talking about the graphics necesarilly. You can just feel the difference, you can see how soulless the newer ones look regardless if they have the advantage of more modern game development processes

[@NRaffa]

Beeing someone who has played every single game starting with the original in 2007 when I was 10 years old, I really enjoyed every game up until Unity. Obviously AC2 really made me fall in love with the franchise. What hurt the most was Ubisoft releasing a good game with Origins, a game that gave me a lot of hope for the franchise again to then releasing Odysey which had nothing to do with Assassins at all. I cant even remember most of Odyseys story cause it had no relevance for someone that enjoyed the Assassins lore of the games. Valhalla I dont even need to talk much about, for me it wasnt even a surprise that the game is what it is, just disapointing for all the Old Fans of the franchise.

[@christopherpackham732]

Personally I never got into Assassin's Creed, and know nothing about the backstory, or the history or whatever. I have started AC Odyssey, and it is hands down one of my favourite games in over 30 years of gaming. It is in one of my favourite settings, and has a huge world I can just wander around in. I don't have to worry about linear progression or being forced into missions. I can do what I want in a vast open RPG. I'm inspired enough to perhaps drop some cash on DLC's, packs, skins etc. I would probably not have picked up any of the AC games if I hadn't tried Odyssey, and I've got Origins and Valhalla ready to try next. I'll spend a couple of years on completing Odyssey first, skip Mirage (I have literally no interest in middle eastern settings), and then try the Far Eastern (Jade I think is the working title?)

[@jvaldez5]

“In 2007 I was 5 years old” that hurt me somehow I was only “23” back then 😅

[@goddamnarshia]

Tfw syndicate was the first ass creed game i finished and didn't drop out of boredom. Installing unity rn for the sole reason i heard it plays like syndicate.

[@elisodrakulia]

I have been listening and reading a lot of things about the future of ubisoft and AC, I don't understand all that well the situation, I mean, I am a relatively new gamer and a. Relatively new fan of AC, my entrance point was actually Valhalla, and for what I've seen was a not very well received game... Personally I loved it, then I played origins a oddisey and same, just fell in love with the games... After that I started with the whole Ezio story ( I actually plan to. Play everything) and although I really liked the Ezio story I don't know... I felt something... Missing, maybe because I have played all this. Universe backwards... But anyway, my point being... I don't understand why this whole hate with the latest video games, they had goog stories (maybe a little long... But enjoyable non the less) and I am waiting for the new release and I am expectant on the piece of history they will. Show us this next time

[@icemann1419]

If you played the rpg style games first then it’s actually expected you love those games more than the original. I guess it’s whatever you experience first because the rpg games definitely takes about 100 hours to finish which is why I cut my losses with odyssey.

[@LeviDoeser]

i have exactly the same

[@Trylena]

Its because you started with the RPGs instead of the old games so you expected to be more like what you have play in those games when Origins was the change on the core game. AC was a lot different as you can see, drooping could kill any enemy regardless of their strentgh while in newer games you need XP to beat the stronger enemies. Besides that they added things that werent part of the game as choosing the gender of the character and magical powers practically. The base of AC was always in science what would be cool for science to achieve.

[@doughlausprashaal7151]

1:30 i would kind of split it based on the time periods of the game The medival/early modern era AC-1-Revelations absolute peak of the series growing from small roots The colonial/revolution era - ac3 to syndicate - a time where there were good games the the plot in some games was very interesting however The cracks were beginning to open and faults were beginning to show with games like syndicate i put these games in this category because all of them are roughly 1700-1800s which i have no issue with the time period And then the ancient world era origins oddessey and Valhalla - my least favourite time period not because of the settings or time periods but because of what they did with it 3 shit copies of god of war and witcher 3 combined atleast origins was decent and made sense to some extent because it was the origins of the creed but oddessey and Valhalla are absolute worst Can some tell those brain-dead people at ubisoft that ancient Greece does not mean people were killing Cyclops and Medusa for breakfast those creatures were fictional made up stuff the Greeks at the time And same for Vikings

[@rickoshay5525]

Brotherhood is where my enjoyment of the modern-story pretty much died. And so, my interest in the overall franchise was permanently crippled.

[@kyvian251]

My thoughts exactly. I adored origins, the setting, the characters etc, I just hated the new storefront micro transaction bullshit they have in the rpg games.

[@picassojulien899]

I think the main issue is they gave each assassin only one game after ezio. Conner needed at least two games in my opinion. So did edward, arno and bayek. The arno shay game should’ve been a thing.

[@ashmaniprabhasha208]

That's your perspective. There are many poeple who likes other assassin's creed games. Everybody loves ezio trilogy, I do too. But I think every single assassin's creed is worth it. If they've added more of Altair - ezio sequels the fans will say the same things as they say now. "we should get different /new assassins sequel. It's a 100% worth it to move on from old story to new one. I personally enjoyed every single ac game. They're all 💯 perfect. But it depends on different perspective.

[@jimmyenglish4247]

Every assassin game after 3 just felt like random rpgs based on a interesting time period. Which is fine but just stop calling it assassin creed

[@joelkurowski7129]

They should have split this into two franchises a long time ago. Title the second one 'Pirate's Creed' or 'Warrior's Creed', whatever you want. Then the rest of us who enjoy our historical theme park RPGs can just enjoy them, and you hardcore AC fans can wait ten years for the next game because you f****** are never happy lol

[@joshuaabren]

I mean sure the main quest can drag on but that's why you have things like mysteries and wealth to collect, so you can step away and get collectibles or do some side quests in between. I started this game 4 months ago so I'm playing it through a different lense... but I really enjoy this game and I have like 120 hours in it without paying for anything other than the disk itself.

[@bigskypioneer1898]

"Surely I'm near the end!?" totally how I felt with Odyssey and Valhalla. When i am in the middle of a game and I honestly can't remember how the story began, what and why I'm supposed to be doing whatever "it" is, or where i was going when i started. In the early AC games i never forgot what the main plot line was, even Unity and Origins with all of their side quests, mystery quests, fetch quests and collect-a-thons.. i *_never_* forgot or lost track of what was the main thrust of the story... oh right, playing an assassin!! When i play Spider-Man, i have never forgotten that i was Spider-Man. When playing Jedi Survivor, i never lost track of the jedi fantasy. Even in Watch Dogs Legion I _never_ forgot what I was playing the game to do. Its like Arthur tells John in Chapter 2 of RDR2, "Dont try to be two things, just pick one and be that." Either Ubisoft needs to just comit to games that are mythological fantasy set in historic period pieces *or* let the player be a hidden blade weilding/parkour beast/ secret society assassin. Linear games are fun too, if they are done well. But i gave up both newer AC games midway because I felt like i did towards the end of my runs -- a pre-teen being asked by my mom to do my chores and homework before TV. When you sigh in disappointment that you have to do yet ONE more thing in the game before you can move on and go back to the main missions... that is not fun. I am NEVER buying any Ubisoft game again until its has been out 2 months at least and 3 youtubers that i trust have said its a decent game... i cant afford another 60-130$ game that I won't finish.

[@littletomatoe7097]

I think Valhalla has a lot of good content it`s just really expensive and very long. If you played all Add-ons and DLCs and did all Side-quests you would have to play over 200 hours. The side-quests were very Witcher-like. Sometimes really grim and deep. Like you meet a man not far away from some ruins and he is all happy and so on. He is happy to see you and wants to show you his village an his family but once you reach it there are only bodies and the buildings are all ruins but the man doesn´t notice it and talks as if everybody is still there and alive even in his home where everybody is dead and then you realize that he has gotten insane and blocked this all out (raider attacked the village). And this is just a side-quest. Not all Side-Quests are like that but yeah you know.

[@54032Zepol]

Odyssey and origins was perfect, Valhalla looks good but I'm all genre drained from everything being vikings these past few years.

[@papapalpy]

LOOKS good. that's exactly it. all effort was put into looks and none into execution

[@theportugueselegend]

I agree. I believe the settings of both Odyssey and Origins were something new and never seen before. I remember I was amazed by Ancient Egypt. Then Bayek's story captivated me and meeting Cleopatra and Julius Caesar were breathtaking. Valhalla is very long, gritty, and England and Norway are not that exotic or beautiful to explore, at least for me. I'm excited for the next AC because Baghdad and Ancient Persia look very interesting

[@hazelcrisp]

I loved Origins and Odyssey. Not too keen on Valhalla since I live in England and everything is just snow, cold and not pretty like the other two settings.

[@aragornarathorn3299]

Origins is what started the fall of this franchise.And then Odyssey came and put the final nail in the coffin.

[@AT-bd3fb]

😂 don’t make me laugh lol odyssey and origins are far from perfect there the reason this franchise has no identity or direction these days

[@Jasongy827]

I agree Arno, deserves a sequel same with bayek but I guess we know the lore behind him that his wife really made assassins more organized and more discreet. I think Arno deserves a sequel I like following the story of our character from the beginning to the end. I wish we played Desmond as an assassin. As 1 and 2 was going to rise up as Desmond taking back his heritage and becoming an assassin. Also, with odyssey it’s different due to being in the animus, and taking someone else dna not the actual user. I wish we played Layla Hassan’s as an assassin (I haven’t played Valhalla)