STOP Killing your SERVOS!!!

[@adamhughes7778]

I've been doing rc for 20+ years and I learned more from this video in 15 minutes than I'm willing to admit. Such a good video and channel. Thanks.

[@interman7715]

I fly big rc planes and I will usually buy a servo that is able to survive in a rc car / truck because of the abuse and shock loads they endure ,that's why I appreciate these channels.

[@blindj]

I've been following your channel since roght you built super light v1 and I was just getting into crawlers. You definitely know what you're talking about and I don't think you get the recognition you deserve. 👍 Keep up the great work Joe

[@ExocagedRC]

Thank you

[@luisfontanez1770]

@@ExocagedRCsorry to bother. Bought the exb outcast rtr 8s, out the box only turns right slightly. Left turn is fine. Any knowledge you could share. I tried the calibration, bec 8.4V output, and if I did it right end points were set. Money is not the problem. What servo would you put in it. Assuming it’s a weak servo. Thanks in advance

[@IN10THRC]

A few years ago, I learned a valuable lesson. I used to be in the habit of posing my crawler for a picture by driving it to where I wanted it, and turning my tx off. The servo would hold it's position, and I could move around down low, take pics etc without accidentally bumping the radio and losing my shot. Absolutely did NOT think abut the servo being under load or anything. Well, this one fine day me and the boys were out trailing and I lined up a great shot. Of course it was up on the rocks, steering cranked full left, and it looked amazing. Switched off my tx, and took a couple of pics. We then decided that this was as good a time as any, to stop and have lunch. My rig was in a safe spot and I didn't give it a second thought as I dug into my backpack for my lunch. A half hour or so later we were done, and I powered up my tx only to discover that my servo had completely left the chat. Up close, you could smell it. Fortunately, I had a spare with me- but lesson learned. Thanks for an informative video!

[@TheAnthonyBrandi]

i htought the servos powered down when the tx goes off tho?

[@IN10THRC]

@TheAnthonyBrandi Not necessarily, and here's why: Your ESC supplies power to the RX. Turning the TX off, does not interrupt that power. So even though the RX is not recieving a radio signal and therefore not issuing commands to the servos or ESC, the power bus is still energized. Therefore the servo is still recieving power. For a practical demonstration, test the positive and negative pins with an LED or voltmeter on any RX channel, with the RX powered on, but your TX off

[@TheAnthonyBrandi]

@@IN10THRC yes the power rail still has voltage all the way accross.it definitely had power. I took a old servo apart and soldered a led on the motor pins for a test and no power was being sent. That kinda good news right?

[@TheAnthonyBrandi]

@@IN10THRC I since ran more tests. The actual motor in the servos receive 0 voltage at the motor connectors on more then 2 servos I've tested even with the power buss senting voltage to the sevos control board. No power is sent the the motor at all. Maybe it's the pwm pot board inside that's frying up. Deffinatly not the motors.

[@IN10THRC]

@TheAnthonyBrandi Maybe? I dunno. But, something has to account for the servo being locked in place under those conditions. Perhaps placing them under load would yield different test results? Load WAS a factor in my case. The truck was not parked on flat level ground, rather perched on some rocks with the wheels at full left lock, and the rx turned off. Also, some radio gear has different signal loss failsafe options. Mine would definitely try to hold position. Some will neutralize/float, some can even be programmed to go to predetermined positions.

[@AsurasWrath164]

Very nice and comprehensive video! Often when I try to explain to newcomers how to set up their steering I see that they end up being overwhelmed and don't understand what I'm trying to say. Now I can steer them towards this video to help them understand their vehicle and how to make adjustments to the servo and steering. Thank you very much!

[@gm3353]

great tips here. just toasted a couple servos not thinking just driving getting nuts in rocky spots.. heard it grind loud lol. Time for a new one and some more thoughtful driving.

[@Mark-qv4bn]

Exactly, these aren't bashers yet people use them as one, which means breakage for no reason. Used as intended it should last years, I'll see.

[@montesamapping]

THE BEST!! This explanation is really interesting and correct! Another thing I can add to your perfect analysis is FOLLING DOWN: when the car has rollover or other falls, may append the impact is on the front wheels and this can crash servo gears, but also sometimes servo electronics. It happens to us some times... Thanks for your job !

[@ExocagedRC]

Yep and those Widener’s would hurt a lot in that situation due to simple leverages.

[@montesamapping]

@@ExocagedRC for sure, but a leverage is also made by the tire itself because the wheel hits the edge in a generic point, even with the best configuration.

[@dirtrider88]

4:21 also more flex. adding wheel spacers, whatever form they come in, is a great mod. just make sure the servo you have can handle it and if it cant get one that can.

[@theirishaxe9405]

Lol my buddies are always laughing at me because I'm a freak for end points bro! Lol everyone I drive with I'm always preaching end points. But I also rarely rarely have servos go bad. Firm believer in end points and servo savers. 👍👍

[@TheAnthonyBrandi]

@@theirishaxe9405 that's all ya really need. Set you end points correct. Get a decent metal gear servo and a saver and your golden

[@luise7788]

I enjoyed the video. It explained why I went through my servo in the first 20 minutes. Element Trailwalker.

[@upgraderc8617]

Man your constantly educating me! Thank you I'm going to check a couple of my trucks now.

[@scottdaubenspeck2291]

Very informational Joe. Awesome video. Gonna share this to some fb groups for some guys to see

[@ExocagedRC]

Please do!

[@puddleduckist]

You sure know your stuff my friend! GLAD I found your channel! Lots of great information, much appreciated!

[@fritzdallmann2139]

Very helpful.thanks exo!

[@michaelchoate2810]

I'm getting into rc crawling so this is exactly the kind of vid I'm looking for. Thank you.

[@GhostRider-ii7tz]

It’s so true.I hear a lot as well.the best is when they wonder why there stock esc and motor burn up.when they have brass every where.I love the channel.the info is awesome the videos.I’m still learning things from your videos.thank you very much.your channel is one of my favorites.👍👊

[@danwoodruff4323]

Thank you for the tips

[@fabulousbrad]

Love the info brotha. Thanks for telling people what time it is. This stuff is not cheap.

[@local24_]

Very good info!

[@TheLilhulk1111]

I might not agree with all your videos but I did subscribe and I am still here you keep doing what your doing

[@rclife9725]

Good stuff brother you're on point I'll tell you that a lot of people do do that but a lot of the times they just don't care but if you're trying to compete I suggest you try to do as much as you can to make you can to make it efficient

[@pedrolahoz]

I have decided to dish out for over 100 usd servos. Have to try and see if those higher spec, higher priced servo can withstand my love for riding over rocks. Jamming those front wheels against a vertical obstacle while trying to steer one way or the other and applying pressure to the front wheels with the independently powered rear axle motor. We’ll see.

[@ExocagedRC]

once you get to or past the $100 mark you get a great servo. Consider the 3BRC G13 Pro at $99.99

[@wildmangeorgesrcchannel6916]

I can’t......I have a problem. I’m just addicted to the thrill of the kill lol

[@ExocagedRC]

😂😂 thrill of the kill 😂😂

[@fredtremblay9530]

Loll....this guy would have a heart attack seeing me yeet the slash around...

[@Mark-qv4bn]

I appreciate this, just got s new crawler today. Parts are parts, I'll just use mine allot slow crawling it will last a few years. If you dont modify it, leave it stock, use it instead of working on it. Thanks.

[@douglasbeary7890]

I'm pretty new to rc since 10-2021 with 4 cars 1st my 6yolds senton 550 2nd my mojaveBLX 3rd my wife's scx6 (my backup rig) 4th my 6yolds mojave exb (not yet recieved) bought used with electronics $275 in great shape (street truck) I'm learning more and more about servos vs driving style everyday seems. I just bought the power hobby 1512 for the scx6 due to my limited knowledge of direct power set up and wanting to keep it simple. Servo knowledge (driving knowledge) can kill ones desire for the hobby if ppl like you didn't explain this stuff. Hobby shops here in Denver tend not to give constructive feedback or advise 1st reason being; some customers are down right nasty if told they are screwing up 2nd reason in some cases is " he will kill it , if I say somthing I won't get a sale for new servo in few weeks( he will have me install it too and he tips very well).

[@Dupdopy]

Makes a lot of sense. Thank you for a great video!

[@squaredc24s34]

Something you don’t think about! Very helpful man! 👊

[@ghostbear5570]

Did I miss the programming End-Points (0:44)? Did you use a servo programmer?

[@y2shanon]

Good advice. And if I still manage to burn out a servo I'd just happily upgrade to a better one😁

[@jorgezavala6277]

Could you do a comparison on some direct power servos like shift RC X2 , Holmes SHV500v3 and Carbon Corrupt Works Vidar?

[@rc-shedshakedown3191]

Test run with the body off; listen and have a feel: heat can also give away if the servo is working too hard. Had that on the gear servo of my Twin Hammers; put a more simple lever on it and gone was the strain...even put in a weaker servo to releave the whole system.

[@rezzrollinrc]

Lookin sharp mr Exo ✊🏽 Good Rc info bro👊🏽

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

O yeah I don’t keep mine under a load I haven’t had too many problems. With servos Good advice for a lot of people in the hobby 💯👉👍

[@jdsrcs8061]

Great vid EXO. 🤘🤘🤘

[@robertruiz5417]

Excellent video i have yet to damage a servo however this video rocks for us all❤

[@just_inolredneck8319]

Thanks so far I’m still going strong on my stock Capra servo but when it finally goes joe I will send u a message like we talked about.. and when I do I’m going to order two.. and maybe a micro 99 so I can change my voltage. Thanks for explaining this.. so I must be doing something right lol

[@MrKn1214]

Very informative, I’ve learned a lot, thanks for the lesson. 👍

[@ripsnort8194]

Great vid man

[@ryurc3033]

Thanks for all the info, honestly driver mod will do more than anything else, but The geometry on monster trucks is all wrong, servo saver is a huge upgrade I desperately need. Been waiting for July first for the new version I saw here. I found metal Jconcepts s wheel adapters in the 11mm width. That made the fling kings more usable.

[@ExocagedRC]

Really? They only had the 25mm ones when I got mine a few years ago.

[@jhawk1985]

Most servos will scream when they are under a load. When setting up dig and steering its best to use your ears as well. I stand by Reefs servos 👍 pricey but you get what you pay for

[@ExocagedRC]

The newer servos are pretty quiet, if you’re with your buddies you won’t hear it, just like the trx servo. But if you have a Savox 😂😂😂 it’s like a revolver motor!!

[@NaturallyRC]

@@ExocagedRC Just reading this after my own comment. Love how you put it, and so right about some newer servos keeping their mouth shut when they ought to be screaming bloody murder.

[@joshcross5379]

That was hands down a great look into what and whatnot to do thank you very much and dearly appreciate you rc knowledge and you have always been my go to guy thank you for that

[@chadanderson2486]

I would like to see a review on the Promodeler servos. Excellent info by the way.

[@marcushaas44]

Awesome piece of evidence 👌

[@Tookie-2014]

Wow I am so glad you made this video I'm in the market for a servo for my xmaxx and immediately thought of asking you then you make this video 😀 so my question is what servo do you recommend for the xmaxx?

[@ExocagedRC]

The only bolt in option for the Xmaxx is their own 2085x. It’s a proprietary design but they also offer an adaptor you can use to put a normal servo in there. Many use the Reefs Raw500 and like it. I still run the stock servos in both of mine.

[@Tookie-2014]

@@ExocagedRC thank you so much for replying. I'm looking at the savox 2290sg but wanted to get your input id love to get the reefs but they're sold out everywhere 😕

[@Houleigan]

I used to blow through servo gears back in the late 80's into the 90's before cheap metal geared servos came along. Guess due to Amazon and Ebay. Only recent servo I have a problem with is my stock Xmaxx servo is slowly dying.

[@ExocagedRC]

I over bolted my stock Xmaxx servo and it was awesome for a minute, then it started to get hot and fade badly.

[@Houleigan]

@@ExocagedRC What did you replace it with?

[@EZEfallout]

Great tips, much appreciated. I recently upgraded my FMS lc80 1/18 and seem to be going through steering servos. Lol

[@redvikinghobbies]

Wondering if in that caged blue set up if that link is long enough. The tires seem true but it looks like the portals are angled. Is it straight because of the weight? Makes me wonder if the servo in some of our more complicated servo setups isn't a necessary evil. Love this video.

[@ExocagedRC]

Well I’ve beat on that thing a bunch, it could have a bent housing by now.

[@Cranklotus]

What BEC would you use for the raw 800? Mine paired with a Hobbywing fusion pro isnt very strong.

[@dustinplee5067]

Is this the same concept with a rc heilcopters because I'm burning out my servos and they are rated for 6 volts but I'm using 11.1 volts is there something I can change in the settings

[@salrizzo3016]

The truck put that rock feel pretty well

[@TommyMartinMSRRC]

Great job. That's badass love it.

[@camrowdrone6497]

Enjoyed watching and learning 👍🏻

[@PLASMA_2005]

Outa curiosity, i havr a servo that for reasons i dont know thatveven when it isn't powered... YOU CANNOT FORCE IT TO MOVE... its weird but it has decent power, would that quirk have an huge effect or no?

[@tjpighin]

Burnt up a tripple 7 on a capra in one day. Endpoints set and just crawling. Any tips as to why? 3s with a fusion pro 2300

[@skyhawk21]

What does end points do when getting new servo and just using it stock without setting?

[@kevinpaul6683]

Wish I watched this last week🤣, my servo burned up while parked and got overloaded 😅

[@wesleemiller]

Great video.

[@tridenhour159]

Great video man, thanks for the info, what do you think of running an nsdrc r1 on an axe system at 6 volts? Trying to figure out if everything will be okay? New to the hobby but want a beast servo haha

[@andrewrichey7374]

Love the info !! Love the tricks and Tips, appreciate you sharing love the bronco looks awesome

[@mikeguzmansr]

You still running the 560kv and max 4 in your dbxle?

[@wanzai1212]

Hye, is it ideal to install cooling fan on the steering servo?

[@old-rcplane-phart]

Yup! Set ur EPA/Travel

[@bbeckers24]

Educational!

[@RC_guy667]

Maybe you can help me, now under any pressure. When i turn left its fine. When I try to turn it right, it barely turns and I hear a clicking noise. Now either I just have bad luck with finding a good servo, or something else is going on, because this is the 2nd servo I've put on with the same issue and the same turning to the right is causing it. Any leads? Anywhere else I should check?

[@SnarkyRC]

In my 35+ years in the RC hobby, I have never killed a servo. Always always set your endpoints and adjust your dual rates.

[@tacklemcclean]

I have a Traxxas Slash VXL 2WD and I'm going to replace my (freshly) broken servo. Is setting my endpoints and dual rates something I must do when installing it? I have no idea what it means :D

[@skyhawk21]

Me neither

[@LawrenceTimme]

Most of the servos I have broken are on monster trucks. Those wide wheels kill servos

[@rileykairc]

Have killed a couple of servos but I keep killing CVD joints on the front of my ftx mauler front and rear steer but I have only killed the CVD joints on the front around 10 so far ☹️

[@ExocagedRC]

You may need to reduce servo throw, if you’re maxing out the cvd, it can break the pin or the ball end pretty easily

[@rileykairc]

@@ExocagedRC have done that still broke the pin and ball am trying a different type of CDV joint to hopefully that will work to

[@low2k]

I just burned mine today, made it up a hill, talked to the guys .. maybe a minute .. servo burned

[@robtosoni8804]

Hey Joe, thank you for all of your great ideas, testing and education with the crawlers. This video was a huge EYE OPENER!! So I have been having serious issues with my servo screw coming loose constantly! I have a Gen 8 scout with a Zoosky 35kg servo from Amazon, that is plenty powerful. But just lately my servo horns keep coming loose no matter how much blue loc tite I have or even with a star lock washer. I just got done ordering a variety of different servo horns and mostly I'm tired of the clamp style ones. Can you please recommend a great servo horn? I do have wheel extensions that bolt to the back of the wheels. I learned a lot from this video but also I have never burnt out a servo yet!🤞lol So now my real concern is you mentioned voltage. I run a 3s SMC lipo at most times & I looked up voltage for this servo it's peak is 7.4v! So because I run a 3s I have to find a 3s servo is this what you're saying or recommending? All of the ones I've looked up are quite some loot. Any help, advice, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also I installed the brace exactly as you have done. Should have done it sooner to avoid ripping out my aluminum C hub from the diff and bending the 3 screws that held it into place. Now I have Treal front & rear metal differential! Very beefy! Sorry for the long post sir hope that you have a great day and keep up with the great videos and information! 🤘🤙👍

[@jonthomas8487]

I spent a lot of time getting my end points correct for my TRX4 steering. I’ll be working on them again as I need to grind a bit of my stops off of my TRX4 to get more steering radius. I need to be cognizant of the axles/cva’s though so I don’t go too far. I’m curious if you’ve got any photos of yours to know how much to take off

[@ExocagedRC]

I did this on OP2 and got maybe 3-4 degrees more at the end but it made a difference. The sharper you turn the more push you’ll get on flat ground while turning. The open diffs help a lot on that.

[@jonthomas8487]

@@ExocagedRC mine are fully locked on my comp rig as they are Sport axles

[@jonthomas8487]

So many folks bash servo brands on Facebook but the real story is never shared. The issue is that the servo market is really competitive and there’s a lot of fan boys of brands which makes for a lot of negative back and forth fights online. This is a good video that all the brands are loving you for posting it

[@sureztv5836]

can you suggest a good servo under budget for my Traxxas Bigfoot original?

[@zsaxeshed5743]

What about servo heat? I've got the shv500v3 on 3s and it gets pretty warm,is that acceptable?

[@ExocagedRC]

Warm to us may not be warm to the servo itself. Things will get warm when worked, that’s to be expected of anything.

[@zsaxeshed5743]

@@ExocagedRC right on ,thanks broseph

[@tittentei7331]

Hey man. Can you please tell me what best servo to my axial ryft? And motor combo if I want to buy new? I see you use different combo on your axial. Hope you have time to answar. Loves your movies. 🙂

[@leigholding1397]

My 35kg OMG servo , I can't turn it my hand anymore. If I turn on the tlr arrma it recentre and work... but went turn off and turn steering the servo stuck

[@markperrella5546]

I have driver mod installed on all my vehicles. That includes servo mod and spacer mod

[@AngryTurds]

Not sure how I've never baked our 32kg turnigy. Bec was set within parameters maybe. Everything else we do here is not ideal. It gets jammed into rock binds every time it goes out too. :Shrugs:

[@ExocagedRC]

Maybe that BEC setting is working for you or you aren’t jamming and holding it long enough to burn it up.

[@pmatrisotto]

First time out, brand new 2075 servo on brushless emaxx, gears stripped 😢

[@MrBumbles2]

servo horn stripped is usually my problem, you can spend 30 bucks and they strip out like the cheap ones.

[@niklasmickelson]

after this i understand what im doing wrong but also i burned out a servo on day 1 and it wasnt cheap either how does thast happen

[@faubertshawn6319]

If the truck is off and the servo is tern des it breaks it?

[@ExocagedRC]

If the power is off it shouldn’t break anything unless you impacted the turning tires, shock loaded the servo and broke some gears.

[@faubertshawn6319]

@@ExocagedRC ok thanks😁😁

[@fernsolo]

I agree 100 percent 👍

[@mylifted4x4]

In the Bronco's defense, its price tag should come with a much better servo(s) IMO.

[@ExocagedRC]

I completely agree.

[@wesleemiller]

So true.

[@rueagonvyceratops2879]

sofa i have not killed many servos . my first trx 4 still has the stock servo in it and i have that truck now for , going on 5 years , my ryft still has its stock servo in it , and so far it holding up . the only servo think i killed tonight , was the cheap amazon one with metal gears , i got it wet , and it turned full right , and would not budge , and it was getting hot , so im letting it set over night to dry , and see if it works the next day , if not , its good thing i have a new one . to put in the new trx4 . or i mite just get a waterproof servo , so i don't have the issue anymore .

[@choke666]

THANKYOU TEACHER JOE, OR MR. EXOCAGED -WHICH EVER YOU PREFER, I'VE LEARNED ALOT TODAY!!! 😁🧐

[@ExocagedRC]

You are very welcome

[@yetimonster2586]

Great information Joe. Just curious if you have ever used a ProModeler servo ? I love mine.

[@TechOttawa]

it would *really* help if the voltage range was stamped on the servos!

[@ExocagedRC]

I usually default to 6v unless noted otherwise

[@thomasgimenez5169]

If all the stock rtr radios would come with easy to use dual/rate adjustments.

[@joe212]

I alwas run a bec and if the servo can take 8.4 i will run it a few points lowe than max

[@lees9068]

My bigger problem is that servo's that I've used say they are waterproof and aren't, should have been labeled splash proof

[@ExocagedRC]

Water gets into everything.

[@ka4172]

i dont stear a non moving truck ,and never park your truck with turned wheels for watching how your bros make the trail with there trucks.Even to much weight (brass,lead,water sucked foams) stress your servo.

[@johncomito4853]

I have a Xmaxx and I keep blowing up staring service after I drive the truck for 10 minutes I can feel it’s hot the steering servo the end points are adjusted had to Hobby shops change out six of them and I can’t tell me why they keep burning out they put one in I’ll bring it home drive it for 10 minutes put my finger on the steering horn and it’s a red hot can it be the receiver that there’s a short somewhere straight out the box when I bought it I burn the steering servo up in 10 minutes brought it back to the hobby shop put a 2085 in broth at home burn that up in 10 minutes and So on and so on

[@johngantner9314]

did you say anything about end points?

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah I did, but I didn’t dwell on it for long at all. I’m thinking of a whole video just on end points as there is a lot to cover on that with different vehicles.

[@johngantner9314]

sorry i missed it. razor rc has a good video on how to do it w blue tooth on traxxas app

[@Jsmith9619]

Yeeeaaahhhh

[@ExocagedRC]

Ravishing!!

[@Jsmith9619]

@@ExocagedRC He was one of the greats!

[@Fantaman900]

being a mechanic I know all about wheel angles and my god is it bad in the crawler rc's. the reverse ankerman than is all too common really bothers me, that's not helping your limited steering what so ever.

[@ExocagedRC]

Yes!! It seems most RC guys have no idea but on some of these they are just bad from the factory.

[@pacificxnative8818]

Sue your barber 🤣

[@ExocagedRC]

it was me and a mirror!!! I got about $5 though

[@ryancoke9]

My servos for the last 2 have both died just from going straight or sitting there lol

[@mikehawk8961]

i've burnt up so many stock servo's just driving around the house on carpet.

[@jeffro7p202]

Ya well it dont take much to strip the stock garbage traxxas servo on the trx4m

[@JoeOvercoat]

If it’s buzzing it’s burning.