Can YOU get GREAT Pinot Noir under $25???

[@johns2262]

Pinot Noir is both a loved grape and hated. More times than not I'm disappointed. I know how good it can be, but I've paid $100 plus for some that I've literally got so annoyed with I've poured down the sink. When it's great, it's great, but when it's average, it's bad. Why's that? Because average pinot noir is worse than average Cabernet or average [insert grape here].

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I totally hear you and it’s frustrating as wine geeks. Great Pinot can be hauntingly beautiful but doesn’t come easy!

[@AndresFnt]

Im a wine amateur here but i hear you on the cabernet…i preferred that to noir. I had a red blend recently that was terrible…on average i prefer whites to reds

[@georgecavalry]

the trick is to do it in stages, 1st stage: know which region of pinot you like, and distinguish all your unprefered regions, 2nd stage: once you know which region is prefered, just focus there and keep on eliminating, 3rd stage: stick to your preference, and good luck to Burgundy lovers, for you'll have to eliminate most wines under 200-300 dollars lol

[@christiansanders1]

@@georgecavalrynot true re: your point about Burgundy. I won an auction recently for 5 bottles of assorted Nuits-St-George. It included one 2008 Chevillon 1er Cru, two 2014 Domaine de l’Arlot 1er Cru, and two 2015 single-vineyard villages-level wines. I’ve opened 3 so far and all have been bangers, especially that ‘08. I paid $300 for the whole lot.

[@wayfinder105]

I found the formatting for this video easier to follow than some of your other blind tasting videos, with the way each wine is covered from tasting-to-reveal all together

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🫡

[@rxr2010]

Big fan of your channel. Enjoy your delivery and content. You have a great way of sharing your expertise without making me feel like an idiot for missing out on some great wines! I have been hesitant to try old world wines but have tasted a few lately thanks to your channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wishing you continued success!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

This comment really made me day… thanks a lot

[@MrFlorinC]

Germany is establishing itself quickly as an new Pinot powerhouse . Old world charm & quality and much easier on the wallet! My go to choice for excellent Rieslings and now probably my first choice for Blauburgunder aswell. Just step a bit outside of the "burgundy" box...

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I like Blauburgunder and Fruhburgunder too. German Spatburgunder is unique bc it is two camps for me, those that have Spatburgunder clones which taste distinctive and those who have Burgundy clones of Pinot Noir.

[@Blair338RUM]

It can be expensive too

[@georgecavalry]

so true! but also must be very picky with the region and the vintage, as it could be way to concentrated onn the Kirsch liquor and it's very offputting for me, very new world oin a sense

[@Str1fe5]

Love this format along with your travel videos the best. Great stuff!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you, more to come of both!

[@Kylelf]

Nice job. A lot of fun. I like reviewing the wide range and doing it blind. I love the idea of getting some cheap, maybe mid-range, and then having a good bottle in the selection, and then comparing them. Yeah, I think Pinot is one of the hardest wines to buy a cheap bottle of that's any good.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There are plenty of cheap vs expensive wine videos on the channel you may like!

[@Chaon_ality1111]

I enjoyed the format of this video. It kept me the entire time, entertaining, to the point and fun.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you!

[@NoSediment]

The sad part is.. You are completely correct about the Burgundy. 😞 Because no matter the quality, these wine are always sold out. So even if You pay premium for a bottle (200+) chances are, You might be disappointed. Unfortunately, been there. ☹️

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It’s unfortunate for us wine lovers that we’re priced out of Burgundy. I was lucky to taste some of the benchmarks in my past life but don’t as often as I’d like anymore 😭

[@timelessracecars7796]

super interesting, this channel deserve to grow a lot more

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you… I think so too but of course I’m biased 😂🤣

[@akiminato8445]

I love your videos! Especially your laugh after you reveal the bottle 😄

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂… that’s always the most fun part of the tasting for me too

[@Petazzi1]

Love the new structure with the bags. And please always keep it real. Once people have the feeling you are cheating the fun is over. Keep up the good work and enjoy you day!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Curious what you mean by new structure? The edit during the reveal? There’s no point in ‘cheating’ because I learn just as much doing these blind tastings as everyone watching. I have a few videos coming up where I am completely WRONG.

[@Petazzi1]

@@drmatthewhorkey indeed, the flashbacks are cool. Keeps it real. The “Vaynerchuk brown bags” are always fun. Thanks for the quick response!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhh thanks… I am trying to find out what works best for the channel/audience… YT is a different place than the heyday of WineLibrary TV… glad you got the ‘flashbacks’

[@joe-zp7ge]

was at an art gallery opening last week and they were serving chehalem ! honestly i think your being very generous with you scores! i find most but not all pinots under 30 very translucent and watery!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhhh nice!!! Scores for me are not gospel and are a way to differentiate wines by preference in these videos

[@peterburlin8198]

Well I live in Europe and though Burgundy is pricey that’s still my go to place for value Pinot Noir. The budget North American Pinots here are passable and the good ones are very expensive, same goes for Spätburgunder, though my experience is limited. But in Burgundy I find value in for example Givry, Mercurey and not least Maranges from where I’ve had very nice 1er Crus for less than €20

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes I’m jealous about the kind of value you can get if you are in Europe in those lesser known appellations. New World Pinot can get pricey, especially in the European market. Germans can be good value but the premium ones are often expensive.

[@peterburlin8198]

@@drmatthewhorkey Yeah. Obviously value is a relative thing, and relative to most wines these wines are no bargain, but I’m a sucker for Burgundy, what can I say?

[@Blair338RUM]

Those are the AOCs to look for. Givry is excellent.

[@juanito2109]

As a South American, the best Pinot Noir we get here are Patagonia/San Rafael in Argentina, Campanha Gaúcha/São Joaquim in Brazil and the best ones by far in Casablanca/Limari in Chile. Many great ones for 30 dollars and under. Oregon and New Zealand are not wildly available here. Burgundy is super expensive. As a rule, big producers Bourgogne rouge and less famous regions like Macon, Rully/Mercury are a best bet. Buying Premier cru, Givrey Chambertin, Musigny, Vougeot, Pommard can cost you 100 + dollars for a mediocre experience.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Very good call on all fronts! I’m a big fan of Chilean and Argentine (Patagonia esp) Pinot Noir but I’m not yet well connected enough with producers to get samples. I had a Bodega Volcanoes PN from Chile a year ago under 20 that was EXCELLENT.

[@AttorneySomm]

I agree re: Patagonia. I have enjoyed Bodega Chacra and Otronia Pinot Noir.

[@prccap]

My favorite, over the last year, value Pinot has been the Stoller for ~$20. Will need to give some of these a try now

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Good taste... I LOVE the Stoller Pinot Noir at that price... you can see it in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roOanpqhpbZ4oK8

[@dustinplatt1481]

Chehelelem (chuh'hay-lum) I think is actually owned by stoller now. I am amazed about how much they have grown, and they consistently still do good stuff!!!

[@dustinplatt1481]

I am curious about the vintage and time in bottle, I tend to look at the evolution and think about when it is ready to drink, especially since so much stuff is being released after only 18 months. I do love Stoller, Chehelem and Girasole, but I like to find more boutique wines.

[@prccap]

@@dustinplatt1481 2019

[@dustinplatt1481]

@@prccap ah yes... at was a cooler wetter year than 2018 (the golden year, do could use more time in bottle... I like to go 4 years out

[@CrescentRollCarl]

Nice tasting. I thought you might throw in some abomination like Meiomi to spice things up a bit. haha. Keep up the good work.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhahah well I did throw in that other supermarket wine hahahah

[@dantheman8279]

I’ve had more bad Pinot Noir than good, it’s obviously a tough one to craft. Your tasting here proves my own theory wrong, I thought anything under $30 was not worth buying. Enjoyed this!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I do think Oregon does a fabulous job at this price… Mendocino and San Luis Obisbo too. Germany can but it’s hard to find the wines outside their country

[@dantheman8279]

@@drmatthewhorkey helpful information! My favorites are from Lompoc, Santa Barbara County and San Luis Obispo. Kessler Hawk and AVE nail it for my palate, sourced from these areas.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I love the Keesler Haak vineyard!

[@braciole7667]

Any experience with Flowers Sonoma Coast Pinot? I'm very tempted to buy a bottle. But, it seems a bit pricey for such a bottle.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I actually haven't tasted it yet

[@kegan51]

The Holy Grail of wine making, all wine makers want to work with it but very few can. Rotiberg Reserve from Switzerland 29 Franken and Rings 2020 Pfalz 15€. Actually unknown but Späteburgunder from Schaffhausen is a very good deal.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Big fan of Rings too!

[@BurtGordon-o2u]

We have enjoyed the Craggy Range PN from NZ at under $30. Nicely tart and earthy. More cranberry/rhubarb than cherry cola of CA PN.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I agree, it's a good wine!

[@EKdlwoasred]

Not bad! But if I wanted cola I’d buy a coke or maybe Pepsi

[@andrethebest701]

2019 Kettemeier from Alto Adige at $20 and 2019 Browne Heritage from oregon at $15 are my go to or Nicolas Bazan from Oregon as well. Amazing age-worthy Pinot

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Niceeee choices and recommendations

[@dustinplatt1481]

Browne is doing good stuff!!!

[@AttorneySomm]

Seems like you identified some compelling values! It is very difficult to produce high quality Pinot Noir at lower price points since that is such a finicky grape that is vulnerable to many pests, diseases and hazards and because the yields need to be controlled or it can be too thin.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed! That and that demand allows price to be higher hahahah

[@solomonmengeu1003]

Another great video and some cool surprises. I haven't tried much Hungarian PN, but it's good to know that they can fo it right. Line 39 isn't a stellar PN, but I would say for the price it's acceptable quality. Also nice to see a German Spatburgunder do well, if you can get ahold of Oktav PN under the VDP they are roughly equivalent to a Villages level quality. The real curve ball was the PN from Umbria, I didn't know Umbria did that varietal. I associate Pinot Nero with Alto Adige, Trentino or Piemonte; so fascinating find. Generally I want a decently priced PN, it's NZ, as inexpensive Chilean ones don't hit the mark. But I have also had a few enjoyable South African ones as well.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Nice, you have access to South African ones over there??? I love german spats but they aren’t always exported - the affordable ones that is.

[@solomonmengeu1003]

@@drmatthewhorkey I have to correct myself. I should have said Ortswein Spatburgunder. Oktav is the name of an Ortswein Spatburgunder from a Baden Weingut ; not a VDP classification. I have had one or two SA PN, not a lot. And yes VDP Spatburgunder outside of Germany or Europe is generally Erste Lage or GG, Ortswein tends to only be available in Germany and/or surrounding countries.

[@liamblake937]

I love Kaufman's rheingau Pinot noir for sub 25$. I've had some decent loire Pinot noir and I've just bought a bottle of vignoble Guillaume's franche-comte igp wine which I'm looking forward to trying

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I totally agree with Loire, I like Sancerre Rouge. I will try to taste Kaufman’s at some point.

[@martintornerud5319]

Montes Alpha Pinot is a wonderful new world Pinot at a great value (18$). Ripe fruit, finely integrated french oak and elegance. Chilean pinot tends to have quite elevated ABV but in this case its not too hot but definitely a more rich and juicy example with hints of chocolate and cooked raspberries. Calera Central Coast also fantastic in a similar style, more complex however at a higher price (25$).

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I like the Calera a lot. Thanks for the suggestions to everyone.

[@zugom.178]

Hi Matthew, I'm one of your follower since a long time now and you are the one that I prefere from all wine youtuber. In one of your last video you said that you would like that your channel blow's up in therme of subscribers. Well I would like to help you. It still blew my mind when I see Konstantin Baum - Master of Wine which is a awesome youtuber but he is around only since 2 years when you are here since many years now but he got 10 times more followers. He deserve it nonetheless you too. So my advice for you would be to have a background that match the quality of your contain. Well it is not a big deal, but It could be appealing to see you in a nice background like Konstantin. I do like your basement by the way ;) When you film inside the quality of the image is less then Konstantin. Outside there is no difference but inside I think there is not enough light (I'm my own and humble opinion). I'm not in the filming industry so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but maybe it would be great for you to seek for advice from professionels. I tell you that because I care for you and I would like that your channel blow's up. I wish you the best. Zugo P.-S. You are a true gentleman to answer all of your comments

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Wow, thanks so so much! I know Konstantin personally and we do talk often. It is the mood I’m going for but you’ll see some subtle lighting changes in the coming months. Thanks for watching :)

[@i_am_linezer0]

I concur. We've become divas at this point. Some KZbinrs have obviously invested a lot of money and effort into their content, Konstantin being the most flagrant example. The videos are tightly made and have this quality about them. He may have be advised by some professionals (come to think of it, I'd surprised if he hadn't). He's also very active on Instagram. Wineking surrounded himself with world class wine professionals like Peter that bring the appeal to his content, but the quality isn't as high as others. Anyways now I'm done rambling. KZbin is tough, so is WineTube. It's a niche community and it's hard to differentiate yourself. I don't know if any of them are able to break even. Because I know you'll read this comment Matthew, I wish you good luck on your journey and hope I won't bum you out with the criticism.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for commenting… No criticism taken… Konstantin does almost everything himself, I am a gear nerd and I know everything he uses. I respect him for that, he’s a real KZbinr. I also do everything myself, I’ve been posting for almost eight years consistently and anyone is free to go back and look how terrible my videos were for years. I also spend an enormous amount of time watching and reading lighting, editing, cinematography, and storytelling tutorials. In my past life, I built a good size small business by scratching and clawing - attempting to do KZbin full-time is harder than that, it’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. It almost ran me into the ground and several points this year I almost quit to go back to a ‘real job’. I am aware lighting isn’t the best but equipment isn’t cheap and is hard to lug around. I do the best I can with what I have (I use a lot of hollywood hacks hahahah). That being said, I am about to make a big investment in some cinema lighting in a few months. Shooting yourself is a challenge, to do the audio leveling, cinematography, perform, and taste all at once are skills that come with time. Couple that with learning to edit professionally and you get the point. Add this to the time it takes to source samples to put videos together (i have an upcoming video on this). It can take up to six months of back and forth e mails. Not saying this for people to have pity on me but to appreciate when you watch excellent content from KZbinrs (esp the tech space) know there is A LOT that goes into this. I watch some creators that put together hollywood-like production and get very very little views. I always comment to commend them. I do listen to critic when it is warranted. A few months ago someone comment on my treble and I went back and realized I couldn’t stand the audio so I spent a week learning how to edit audio better and purchased a new mic. This video format was the result of someone asking to see tasting notes next to the reveal so I wanted to experiment to see if viewer retention would be better. When I went into this, I thought it was easy to post videos… I was so wrong. There are 10 million active youtube channels and around 10% have 10k subs… Around 1.5% have 100k I do appreciate the comments everyone! It’s one of my favorite parts of the ‘job’.

[@nasos00]

I have liked Alto Adige Pino Nero, but honestly don't have much experience with the grape exactly because of what you mentioned. It tends to be pricey and requires a lot of research. When you find a good one though, it's absolutely beautiful

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You are right on all points! There may be an Alto Adige Pinot Nero coming up in the future... and one of the best examples IMO.

[@JamesEriksen]

Girasole makes really good stuff. Hard to go wrong with them.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed

[@craigmetcalfe1749]

My favorite Pinots that are cheap are Bream Creek from Tasmania in Australia, Palliser Estate Pencarrow from Martinborough, New Zealand and Ata Rangi Crimson also from Martinborough, New Zealand. I sleep better at night if I have Duck in the refrigerator and Pinot Noir in the wine cellar. Cheers!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahahah that is a comforting thought. I like a lot of Oceanic Pinots but they aren’t always widely available

[@gtrnka]

My wife and I found Belle Glos (from each of their 5 vineyards) for $29.99 and fell in love with Pinot Noir!!! Just wish we would have purchased more than 10 bottles at that price. We did a tasting with friends one night and truly enjoyed them all!!! 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷

[@drmatthewhorkey]

That’s the name of the game, sharing wine with loved ones

[@richardfeldkamp1707]

You should try some Ontario pinot noirs. Cool climate. grown on limestone or dolomite slopes and are very Burgundian. Producers to try are Tawse (they have connections to Marchand in Burgundy), Hidden Bench and Flat Rock. Many of them will fit nicely in your $25 US price point. As an aside.I have only had one opportunity to try a DRC wine. Unfortunately it suffered from cork taint.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhhhh that stinks!! I am very weak in Canadian wine and would like to try more as the ones I have tried were not impressive. I am aware there is good stuff across the border though

[@richardfeldkamp1707]

@@drmatthewhorkey Most of the wines are made in limited production. The best usually have to be bought or ordered from the winery. They don't even make it to the LCBO. Ontario produces the most wines and they tend to be very European in their style. British Columbia produces wines in the west coast style in very limited amounts. It's very hard to get them outside of the province.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

yes I was supposed to go on a press trip in the Okanagan Valley but then... COVID happened

[@jasonsmith2032]

Hi! Is the Sarnero easy to find in the US? I only found a site with a 25 euro price. Thanks for your great videos

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you… I just had it in a sample pack and threw it in, I didn’t expect it to win. Unfortunately, I think it’s only available in Europe and they only made a few hundred bottles.

[@richardbrowe9299]

I once heard.." There are Great Pinot Noirs and there are cheap Pinot Noirs...but there are no Great cheap Pinot Noirs"...🍷😁🍷

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahahahahha, That’s why i generally go with New World Pinot around 40 USD if I want to be safe…

[@dantheman8279]

Cheap Pinot is truly undrinkable.

[@EKdlwoasred]

I would consider anything under a grand cheap. But that’s just me. I guess some people have higher standards

[@tatiannabaker3943]

@@EKdlwoasred anything under a grand is not cheap.. cheap means low in price or worth more than it costs. I wouldn’t call anything over $50 low in price..

[@timwills4292]

Thank you for your thoughts here. I have tried to find a nice cheap pinot noir and have tried louis jadot and la crema but it's just been boring in comparison to other varietals. :(

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes, generally Pinot Noir does not offer great value for money. That being said, I do think some producers in Oregon do a great job in the $20-25 range.

[@timwills4292]

@@drmatthewhorkey ill give them a shot!!

[@pjwillsr]

Hi Matt....just opened a Stoller Family 2021 Dundee Hills, Willamette Valley Pinot. Quite nice, and I will purchase again. I think I paid under just under $25 from Binney's. Have you had a chance to taste the Stoller Family Pinot's?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Niccceee... big big fan. You can see their wines in these two videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKDNc2esYtKtedk kzbin.info/www/bejne/roOanpqhpbZ4oK8

[@RCTricking]

I liked Arabella and Michael Pozzan , both are $20 and Oregon and good enough 😇👍🏻

[@drmatthewhorkey]

ohhh I don't know those!

[@thedavidj1996]

I think Oregon has my favorite style of Pinot. The flavors tend to be the perfect mix of old world and new world. Lots of tart fruit mixed with those funky flavors amongst other earthy and herbal flavors. I’ve tired Pinots from Oregon, Germany, France, and California and so far Oregon is my favorite.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I can totally see where you are coming from and they do offer a nice balance.

[@ChristopherNeeme]

I was really surprised how good the Line 39 2019 Cabernet that I tried was though for the price, I found it had a fair bit of layered depth. I haven't tried anything else they have, so I guess I won't bother with the Pinot Noir.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I can imagine the Cab could be decent. Some casual drinkers might like the Pinot, I just don’t - personal preference.

[@archeryates6619]

Talk about labels giving the most specific details about where the wine is sourced.

[@jimwocha4949]

Pinot is my favourite red grape.. I'm old enough to remember getting decent 1er Cru wines from Burgundy for £20. They are triple that now. Have to look elsewhere for good Pinot now. Wouldn't immediately think of Italy for good Pinot so a nice surprise. Not sure if that is available in the UK but I'm going to seek out some of the others.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhh you’ve been around wine longer than me and I get jealous hearing about the times when the greats were affordable hahah. Check out Alto Adige in Italy for Pinot, you’ll be surprised!

[@jimwocha4949]

@@drmatthewhorkey thanks for the tip. I'm a francophile at heart but can't afford the prices they want to charge so always on the lookout for more affordable options.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You'll see an upcoming Europe vs America Pinot Noir blind tasting video in 2023!

[@derekcontreras7494]

Pinot is phenomenal when it’s done right some of my favorites, Paul Hobbs, Russian river valley,Lange Estate Dundee hills Domaine de la cote have some of my favorites.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

De la Cote is very very good. I haven’t had Paul Hobbs Russian River Valley, thanks for bringing it up

[@freddieslaughter1107]

Have you tried these wines, Hess Cabernet Napa Allomi Vineyard and Canvasback Cabernet Sauvignon Red Mountain?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Canvasback is delicious!

[@michael7324]

When all is said and done, drink what you like. Drink what you can afford. Enjoy the complexities and appreciate all the hard work that when into producing these great wines

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😀🎉

[@Blair338RUM]

For a bargain red wine on the lighter side I’d go Cab Franc ( Chinon or Bougeuil ) or Gamay instead of Pinot. Or perhaps Alsatian Pinot, but they are getting expensive too. Love to get my hands on that Umbrian Pinot Noir. 👍

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Loire Cab Franc is a bargain!

[@carlgranados7106]

Pinot Noir is my favorite red wine because it's not heavy and taste more like fresh fruit vs dried fruit. La Crema Pino Noir is $16 bucks and really good. Martin Ray Pino Noir is rated 94 for just under $20. No need to pay fortune for this great wine.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

All about what you like!

[@jameswingad3212]

Baden in Germany! There are some delightful Spätburgunder wines at the entry level and at the entry level they´re way below that price. Valle de Leyda produces some great pinot for not much money and with pasta with ragu bianco las Brisas costs nothing at all.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agree and in all of Germany, those wines don't get exported though often...

[@jameswingad3212]

@@drmatthewhorkey Some regions are tough to get reasonably priced quality though. Ahr is expensive for example though both Rheinhessen and Franconia are underrated. German wines only really seem to be exported if they´re Riesling for some reason...

[@RileyMcGurn]

I love Meiomi Pinot noir! Super yummy!

[@Petazzi1]

My get the go place was Hemel en Aarde valley South Africa for Pinot, but they got expensive as well. Now I often buy from Ahr producers. They can use some extra support..

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Very very good place and the home of Hamilton Russell. I like the Ahr too, maybe my favorite region in Germant visually?

[@Petazzi1]

@@drmatthewhorkey Hamilton Russell 😍, love also Peter-Allan Finlayson’s Crystallum line, stunning wines. Ahr valley is indeed beautiful, their “Rotweinwandelweg” is one of a kind. Don’t know how it looks nowadays after the flood. Only one way to find out ;) Have fun Matthew! Cheers.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You can see Hamilton Russell PN and the Hamilton Russell Oregon PN in these two previous videos… kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLGf5ycn6mtg80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKDNc2esYtKtedk

[@matteobertoli]

You can drink fantastic pinot noir in Burgundy with $20. It’s the more basic Bourgogne, but it’s still much much better than any California/Oregon Pinot

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I have had some wonderful ones too… I’ve also had some pretty poor ones hehehhe

[@matteobertoli]

Definitely easier to find them here in Europe!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You are right! But then again… gimmie the wines from the Dão when it comes to QPR

[@minka8047]

Nice Video Matt, how long did this take you to put together?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Gathering samples for these blind tastings can take months of back and forth emailing… shooting takes 1.5-2 hours. Editing blind tasting videos takes 4-5 hours, optimizing tags and KZbin factors takes 30 mins to an hour…

[@minka8047]

@@drmatthewhorkey does this mean I'll have to wait just a little longer for the Cabernet tasting?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There are a lot of videos already done and are in queue to be released…

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There s a blind tasting Cali Cabernet vs Bordeaux video on the channel

[@minka8047]

@@drmatthewhorkey I know, but I'm waiting to see how the wine from down under performs against the world

[@martineasterman5170]

I don't know what it sells for in the USA...but you need to take a look at Louis Chenu Père et Filles Savigny Vielles Vignes...I know it's sold in the USA and they are a fabulous Vurgundy producer making affordable wines.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

thanks for the hot tip!

[@i_am_linezer0]

Hey Matthew, I enjoyed this tasting! The way the video was edited made it a little confusing though. Love the energy, keep it up!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks… it was edited so the tasting notes go along with the wine righ before the reveal… In all other blind tasting videos, a lot of people leave the video or skip ahead during the blind tasting part…

[@i_am_linezer0]

@Dr. Matthew Horkey I see, sorry to hear that. I always enjoy the process of the person discovering and rating the wine, but you may have more insight into what works and what doesn't on KZbin. Maybe a summary at the beginning of the reveal showing the ranking would make it easier? Just throwing ideas out there!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Gotcha and thanks… revealing in order from last to first place wasn’t clear? Just askin 😇

[@i_am_linezer0]

@@drmatthewhorkey tasting the wines from worst to best score was fine, it just took me a little while to understand the logic you were following because there wasn't any introduction to the reveal methodology. The "flashbacks" are a good idea I think, but they could be indicated a little better (black and white instead of very slight change of colour tones? some kind of "what happened previously" text to parody TV shows?). Here's everything I have to say, have a wonderful Sunday!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I did think about B&W… I guess the wannabe filmmaker in me thought the subtle color change to depict a flashback would be enough 😂… I’ll have to clarify in future videos

[@MrVinay21]

I recently tried Stephen Ross "Estate" Edna Valley Pinot Noir (available in k&l) for $20 and thought it was delicious

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Nicccee, there are some values coming out of Edna Valley for sure

[@mompreneurlife]

In my opinion? No. But then again I've never watched your channel before. lol. Interesting content here. Just subscribe.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ohhh wow thanks so much. I do agree that Pinot can be tough to find in terms of value for money. Enjoy the videos!

[@TroutStalker1]

Is it the 21oz or the 28oz glass that you're drinking out of in this video?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for asking! I gotta fix the link. It’s the bigger glass

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I fixed the link in the description box to show the exact glass I used

[@maryverzella9841]

I have enjoyed Louis Jadot Bourgogne Pinot Noir, La Crema Sonoma Coast Pinot Noir both at about 30 CAD and as for "Merlot" lol, Ghost Pines Merlot great value for 20 CAD

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Jadot does a fantastic job as a negociant to bring some Burgundy to people at affordable prices :)

[@maryverzella9841]

@@drmatthewhorkey Even more enjoyable when drinking from Rovsya Wine Glasses purchased from your link. May add another set of 4 .... will use your link again :-) Thank you for all you do !

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Wowwww thanks! Glad you like them. When I used them for this video I thought… I need to drink out of these more.

[@EmperorsofDecayTV]

For good quality affordable Pinot Noir, I like South Africa. And Pinot Noir’s wonderful offspring: Pinotage!!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

The problem is they don’t become so affordable when exported 😬…

[@berlioz07]

you haven't try Cono Sur?

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I've tried several Chiliean PNs but not this one

[@RCTricking]

I used to like the supermarket Mark West pinot at $10. Tried it again recently and couldn’t drink it 😂😂😂 Super fake oak and jam

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It's so funny how our palates changed, this has happened to me a lot.

[@coachisaacnavarro]

I always enjoy Colonel James and it's inexpensive and easy to find.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

As long as you like it!

[@Onelifeonedream2017]

I'll be trying the German one I screenshotted it as I don't speak German 😂 but thank you this will be my second red wine after "apothic red" which I DID NOT like lol

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Apothic Red is a no go for me too hahahaha

[@frankbremen5470]

Germany especially Rings Spätburgunder 2020 or Jülg Spätburgunder. German Pinot Noir revolution ✊

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I haven’t tried either, thanks for shouting them out

[@compellingimaging9170]

The chehalem reserve is top notch just a bit more $$$

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed!!

[@MarcKoetse]

Germany, without doubt. For under 20€ you have great value for money

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There are some amazing value for money Spatburgunders and Rieslings for that matter. They just aren’t exported much.

[@MarcKoetse]

@@drmatthewhorkey I life in the Netherlands. Even here, next door, good German wine is difficult. Not so much because of export issue, more because German wine is still thought off as the cheap sweat plunck of years ago. Bought a (hopefully nice) spätburgunder (Ortswein level) from Rheinhessen today. Hopefully as good as your find (same price level).

[@stevenrichardson4659]

Tasmanian Pinot's under 25 bucks are ace😉

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I’ve had many of them, what producers do you like?? I’ve always found them on the pricier side

[@stevenrichardson4659]

....Try Armenian Vorsehk from Areni Wines (its a dry white) but drink super cold and its devine.

[@paulhalt1102]

Its very easy to find good spätburgunder for less than 20 bucks in Germany

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I agree but not always easy to find those abroad

[@paulhalt1102]

@@drmatthewhorkey yeah I agree, I dont know any prices of exported wine in america

[@RCTricking]

Pinot Project says YEAHHHHHHH

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I love the Pinot Project and one showed up in a video last year.

[@FleshertonGallery]

Some of the best value pilot is from Chile

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There are some stellar ones I’ve tasted!

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

* looks at my fermenting tank...that happens to have crushed raspberries in it * Chat... he knows! 0 _ 0

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhahahahhahahahah

[@numanuma20]

The question should be “Can you get 100% Pinot Noir for cheep”.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

hahahhahahhahha

[@Cukito4]

Loved the video, but I really dislike the close ups . Greetings!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏

[@Pay-It_Forward]

The greatest value in Pinot Noir is using it as mulch for your Zinfandel vine!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🫠

[@Alexander-dt8sk]

will-AA(as in ham)-met

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks!

[@dmkays]

Supply and Demand? I was told that good Pinot Noir is priced depending upon the ego of the wine producer, and the producers of the best Pinot Noir have BIG egos.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😂🤣😅

[@i_am_linezer0]

Merci !

[@drmatthewhorkey]

WOW thank you so so much! Merci

[@tommy254]

Best value for money: Germany (Spaetburgunder called there). No joke…

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Def can be but not readily available worldwide… The top German Spats can be amazing but also not great QPR for the average person…

[@tommy254]

@@drmatthewhorkey Thank God I am very close to the source 😋 but obviously our export rate to the states isn’t that high

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I’m a fan of Stodden, Rudolf Furst, Dr Heger, Bernhard Huber but those wines aren’t cheap and for many people, poor QPR

[@comesahorseman]

Bargain Pinot Noir? Australia. Interesting Pinot? Germany, hands down!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I really enjoy a lot of PNs from both countries too!

[@richardbrowe9299]

Oh ps You da Man

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮

[@georgecavalry]

impossible..

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮😮😮

[@georgecavalry]

@@drmatthewhorkey such a harsh and unfortunate reality for pinot lovers like us 🤣🙃

[@fernandofreire4062]

I just started watching your videos today, and i find it very confusing about the structure of how you build your videos. It comes and goes, comes and goes. My mind gets confused. I dont enjoy it. I gave this channel a chance because i like Kostantin Baum channel, but i dont really like HIM, so i wanted to find someone else doing kind of the same thing. But hes video editing still fell more understandable to me. And im not talking about the wine reviews at all, i understand wine very well. Its just how the video is edited, the format. Yours are very confusing.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for giving the channel a shot and I hope you find other videos to be more understandable. This is the only blind tasting video where I tried something different

[@fernandofreire4062]

@@drmatthewhorkey well i watched the sangiovese video too and to me was a bit confusing aswell. I couldnt relate the tasting you were doing to the wine at the end. It felt a bit rushy and not well structured. Maybe if you go one wine at the time and really take the time to acknowledge every wine on the video, when you reveal it its gonna be better. Maybe only a few seconds more reviewing each wine, and one at the time would make a big difference. Thanks for your reply. I will probably study a little bit more the differences from your videos to kostantin baum videos and try to give you a more accurate solution.

[@tarronwoon4144]

Translate cool whip taste for non Americans 😂

[@drmatthewhorkey]

A more chemically whip cream LOLOLOL

[@ezrhino100]

you have to go outside of CA to get value pinot. again education....

[@Diesel0807]

NO...

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮