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Shinzen talks about the empowering facets of enlightenment and compares this to "enlightenments evil twin" DP/DR. He talks about the rare occasions that he's encountered a meditator moving in the direction of DP/DR and the strategy he used to "cure" it using mindfulness methods.
Filmed in Nov. 2009 at Mt. Carmel Spiritual Centre in Niagara Falls.
00:06 - Shinzen introduces DP/DR, or Depersonalization/Derealization disorder, enlightenment's evil twin.
00:34 - Fulfilling and empowering aspects of emptiness and no-thingness of self and world as the result of successful meditation.
02:09 - The opposite effect of emptiness and nothingness on a person who has DP/DR.
03:23 - An opportunity to look at what enlightenment is in a new and deeper way.
03:53 - "Very, very occasionally, it happens that people who are doing a meditative practice, their experience moves in the direction of DP/DR."
04:42 - "Please listen carefully. In my entire career of teaching... I have encountered this in students only a few times. In the few times I've encountered it, with maybe one or two exceptions... through giving the right direction, it ended up eventually becoming the empowering and fulfilling experience."
05:22 - The chances of this happening to you in meditation if you have a senior competent guide that has dealt with this problem successfully are very remote.
06:20 - The general population that develops DP/DR are not meditators.
07:25 - Shinzen wonders if the strategies he uses for meditators might work on the non-meditating people with DP/DR.
07:59 - Falling into the Pit of the Void.
08:19 - Two things Shinzen does that can help.
1. "If they are freaking out because of the emptiness then there is something that's not empty. What's not empty is the freak-out. So I have them see that the freak-out is itself empty. That negates the negative.
2. Systematically develop the positive. Use your concentration skills to do a lot of creating positive feel, image, and talk... "Now you have nothing. That nothing is the ideal place to construct a completely new self. You can still, at will, create positive feel, image, and talk and now like a physical therapist would exercise atrophied muscles and in a systematic way rebuild that person's ability to move, so I push them, very much like a PT, to develop positive feel, image, and talk over and over again until they literally build a new and indeed better self.""
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