Expensive Movies That Flopped

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Syntopikon

Syntopikon

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@masudashizue777
@masudashizue777 Ай бұрын
I can't even save $1 million in one lifetime and these people are losing $200 million on one film.
@jseipp
@jseipp Ай бұрын
Have you tried white collar crime? I’m pretty sure that’s how they do it
@cdeford2
@cdeford2 29 күн бұрын
Making $1b for a film is obscene. There is a direct correlation between the profits these companies make and the number of poor and homeless people.
@stefanpp1155
@stefanpp1155 Ай бұрын
I remember Tom Hanks making a big fuzz about the digital actors in "Final Fantasy", painting them as a threat to real actors. Only to star in "Polar Express" four years later, hmmmmm....
@jekw23
@jekw23 Ай бұрын
Well he lasted four years before completely contradicting himself. Most celebs can’t go a day.
@josesoares3582
@josesoares3582 Ай бұрын
Anyone can change ideas 😊
@neildavis2999
@neildavis2999 Ай бұрын
Tom Hanks is a dick. He was one of those DnD book burners back in the 80's. He has been a huge bully about his Hawaiian property. Elitist snob.
@peterhill8398
@peterhill8398 Ай бұрын
That’s like Krusty the Clown who managed to announce both his retirement & his triumphant return in the same press conference. 😁
@AngelBatistaa
@AngelBatistaa Ай бұрын
The character model in Spirit within of the main female protagonist was marketed as a digital actress who would make other appearances as different characters. They have pictures online or her modeling released by square at the time. She isn’t a real person it was supposed to be kinda like vocaliods but with movies instead of music. I hate to play devils advocate especially for Tom Hanks but I think that’s most likely what he was referring to. Also Polar Express is creepy asf
@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938
@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938 Ай бұрын
I never actually finished the Marvels, I left halfway through to answer a phone call, and when I came back, my parents had switched it off and put on something else. The bright colour scheme, the overblown stakes, lacklustre direction, and just lack of interest in the MCU didn't convince them to keep watching.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Similar to The Eternals, there was a good movie in there but it got lost in a morass of convolution. With a steady hand and maybe half the cast, it could’ve been decent.
@mustlovedogs8179
@mustlovedogs8179 Ай бұрын
Brie Larson has zero charisma.
@davedsilva
@davedsilva Ай бұрын
She's playing an angry feminist trying not to show emotion so noone sees her frustration for Chad not committing 😂
@robotrix
@robotrix Ай бұрын
Even in Kong Skull Island...outside of throwing a lighter she gave us no reason her character had to be there.
@anthonymaslow798
@anthonymaslow798 4 күн бұрын
She really pisses all you incels off LMAO. I love it.
@Curtiz2008
@Curtiz2008 Ай бұрын
The producers of the Lone Ranger had no respect for the original material. The movie was also too big, too many explosions. The Lone Ranger has been a more personal story. No need for massive effects sequences, just have a good script and don't make the hero an idiot.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 20 күн бұрын
The Star of the _Lone Ranger_ was Johnny Depp who played Tonto ... who had a dead bird on his head ... Don't be repulsive ... .
@ajithvkashyap9130
@ajithvkashyap9130 Ай бұрын
Blade runner being in this list breaks my heart. People making memes on Ryan Gosling saying literally me didn't even support the movie when it was released 😔
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Likewise. And the first Blade Runner suffered a similar fate. Two of my favorite movies, and two of the best I've seen. I hope the show does well.
@Wfalen
@Wfalen Ай бұрын
Thankfully they seem to understand that people do like the franchise even if they kind of didn't do that well on the box office. That is why they are making the show since 2049 was a hit on streaming.
@Air_Serpent
@Air_Serpent 5 күн бұрын
It seemed to be that people saw it later and now they enjoy it. It was ignored when it was released until almost a decade later.
@Gary-zq3pz
@Gary-zq3pz Ай бұрын
John Carter of Mars was a great movie, but it was 40 years too late. A Perfect 60's extravaganza decades too late.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
That's pretty accurate. It reminds me of old swashbuckling adventures, and it would've been perfect then. I think they kind of wanted to recreate the magic of Pirates of the Caribbean to an extent, but flopped.
@Antonio_Ortiz
@Antonio_Ortiz Ай бұрын
I'm glad you have real reasons as to why The Marvels flopped, instead of just saying, "Brie Larson/Feminism bad."
@Zippofanatic77outdoors
@Zippofanatic77outdoors Ай бұрын
Agreed
@erichskrika4041
@erichskrika4041 Ай бұрын
In all fairness her moronic comment didn't help.
@christopherwhipps7497
@christopherwhipps7497 Ай бұрын
I also just don't think its true. We all live in a bubble but most normal people don't know the names of people who write and direct movies. They also don't spend time enough on internet message boards to know the discord around Brie Larson. Seriously, go to any public place and ask a random person the gender and race of the person who directed the Marvels and you will get a lot of blank stares. Plus, I think men are generally stupid (I am one, trust me). They might skip a movie because they're not interested in female-led films, but most of them won't read deeply into an action movie. I have three brothers, none of them recognized the feminist subtext in Captain Marvel. That whole "fall down and get up" scene went right over their heads.
@brettrobinson2901
@brettrobinson2901 Ай бұрын
I actually quite liked that explanation... Keep it simple I say....😁
@troyarrington5492
@troyarrington5492 Ай бұрын
@@brettrobinson2901not everyone can critically think. Bless you
@theniceperson22
@theniceperson22 Ай бұрын
"As budgets keep increasing, so will the number of flops." Your right about that and history has shown that as well, especially last year which of course part of it was because of covid. Last year also coined the term flopbuster as well. This year hasn't been too bad, but I think next year will be bad. When will studios learn. 🤦
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Yeah, last year was brutal, especially to Disney. They did an impressive turnaround this year and for the sake of the industry, I hope it continues into next year. As it stands, it looks a little bare but I'm hoping it fills out.
@Activation1111
@Activation1111 Ай бұрын
I like John Carter. Of course it could’ve been better. But I enjoyed it overall.
@samuelcrows
@samuelcrows Ай бұрын
I will never understand why Marvel and Disney thought that The marvels would make money. 3 heroines that the public couldnt care less, an actress that isnt liked, a musical scene (like, why?) And of course The MCU was on bad shape after soo many lacklusters movies.
@samuelcrows
@samuelcrows Ай бұрын
​@rreemowyeah, but the movie is bad.
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 Ай бұрын
I watched Ms. Marvel, and I like Captain Marvel well enough; but, The Marvel's was just _bad._ Nonsensical plot that felt stiched together from 3 different screenplays. Pacing so poor, it felt like it was rushing to get itself over with. The tone changes 3 times throughout the film, and the characters don't actually feel like they're in the same scene together somehow. Like they're talking _at_ each other: all exposition dialouge. The writing is so wooden and on the nose I'd think George Lucas wrote the dialouge.
@harrymason4300
@harrymason4300 Ай бұрын
The first Captain Marvel somehow made money, so I guess they figured people would eat slop twice.
@virenderparasariya
@virenderparasariya Ай бұрын
@@harrymason4300 but it was sandwiched between two most succesfull marvel movies
@rbarnett3200
@rbarnett3200 Ай бұрын
Disney tends to make films now as mostly a merchandise tie-in. They’re a bit like Transformers or He-Man (the 80’s cartoons). They’re not really made to be good but as an extended advert. What is weird is that they’re willing to drop $200-300m on these adverts. That’s really not fiscally sensible. The outlay gamble is more than the potential return. That’s the reason whilst most Marvel/Disney/Star wars films are basically cookie cutter and interchangeable. Disney isn’t interested in artistry anymore, they’re just interested in marketing a product. Low-Mid level budget films are mostly about someone wanting to say something/artistic expression but the high-mega budget films are about selling merch
@erwinesto3408
@erwinesto3408 Ай бұрын
That's Disney's excuse for The Marvel flopping, Covid. How come The Batman which was also filmed during that time became a huge hit?
@danielrubinstein896
@danielrubinstein896 Ай бұрын
DC & WB always put a lot of effort when it comes to batman movies,it clearly shows
@astralclub5964
@astralclub5964 Ай бұрын
Mary Sue…oh sorry…Brie as Captain Marvel like many such two dimensional characters short-cutted the Heroe’s Journey. She was ALL powerful, overcame no challenges, suffered no defeats, and G Bossed all the way to the WOMP of an ending!
@azadish
@azadish Ай бұрын
Mad Max: Aussie taxpayers forked out a staggering $183million for Chris Hemsworth Hollywood flop Furiosa - as prequel struggles to break even at box office
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Unfortunate, as I enjoyed the movie. But Furiosa, in general, was a bad move. Fury Road, while fantastic, wasn't a supermassive success. I think George Miller should've played it a bit safe and done a proper sequel instead of a prequel.
@robotrix
@robotrix Ай бұрын
I've liked Hemsworth since Star Trek. Really wished he'd been cast as James Kirk. And good for him canceling that Hulk Hogan movie. But has he had any success with a movie outside of the MCU and Cabin In The Woods? I can't think of any.
@danielrubinstein896
@danielrubinstein896 Ай бұрын
Furiosa is an awful movie, the leads are not likeable enough
@Robert-ju6ub
@Robert-ju6ub Ай бұрын
I adored Cloud Atlas. I don't think a movie has ever had me so engrossed in its world. Roger Ebert's review is dead-on.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s a great film. One of my favorites of 2012. I wish more directors took such wild risks.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
I was scanning these comments to see if anyone else recognised the brilliance of this film. I didn't realise Ebert was a fan. Now I'll have to check his review.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon Yep. It's a great film. The editing is exceptional. Few films use the art of editing in such an integral way to the narrative of their movies, and yet, like Kubrick said, unlike lighting, writing and performing, editing is unique to film. It's what distinguishes it from other art forms, and yet it's rarely utilised to its full potential. This and 1999's Magnolia are two of the rare exceptions I can think of where the editing is truly key to the film's overall brilliance.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 Ай бұрын
@@GregOrCreg It was actually the last movie Roger Ebert reviewed before he passed. He loved it, though he confessed he didn’t entirely understand it. The movie basically takes David Mitchell’s fine, fairly low-key novel and dials everything up to 11 by detonating a nuclear bomb under it and photographing the explosion in ultra high-def. This actually works well enough for the most part, and even brilliantly in a few places, but I can’t be surprised that audiences wouldn’t sit still for it. As for BR 2049, I’m a big fan of the original, and were I a studio executive with fiduciary responsibilities to the shareholders I would never have approved a sequel. Who was asking for it?
@jasondermack7485
@jasondermack7485 Ай бұрын
Awesome video. It should also be noted that Cloud Atlas was co-directed by German director Tom Tywker, the guy behind Run Lola Run
@Zippofanatic77outdoors
@Zippofanatic77outdoors Ай бұрын
I took the kids to see Lone Ranger. We all liked it. Great job on this video. Subbed
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I saw it close to opening day with a friend and had a blast with it. It's one of those perennially fun movies.
@Swordslinger-hb1ns
@Swordslinger-hb1ns 5 күн бұрын
Disney should just cut their losses and cease all films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It peaked with Avengers Endgame and should’ve just closed after that because all loose ends to me were tied up.
@brettrobinson2901
@brettrobinson2901 Ай бұрын
I say lets take a break from SUPERHERO movies for about 30 years...figure out how to make the next "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest " or " Shawshank Redemption"....
@geraldmartin7703
@geraldmartin7703 17 күн бұрын
Big budget monstrosities get boring.
@brettrobinson2901
@brettrobinson2901 17 күн бұрын
@@geraldmartin7703 Yep...small , intellectual indie type monstrosities are MUCH better...😉
@barelyoperational6587
@barelyoperational6587 Ай бұрын
Last night I saw this truly spectacular Chinese crime thriller (black coal, thin ice). It is amazing how the director crafts that movie to show the cat and mouse game and keeps the audience from being sure who’s the cat and who’s the mouse at any given time. The cinematography is also beautiful and i love the closing scenes and lead actors performances. Really reminded me what filmmaking can do. Anyways just wanted to share that since my husbands been catching up on the marvel universe lately and watching that secondhand made this palette cleanser even more cathartic
@pawelzietek
@pawelzietek Ай бұрын
I liked John Carter, it is really entertaining, well made and the characters are incredibly likeable. I do not understand why they changed the name to John Carter and why haven’t they promoted it.
@geraldmartin7703
@geraldmartin7703 17 күн бұрын
Disney was afraid "Princess of Mars" would only attract little girls expecting another "My Little Pony".
@theblackdragon7568
@theblackdragon7568 Ай бұрын
Amazing video keep up the great work
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 Ай бұрын
I agree the Marvels should have cut Nick Fury and Monica Rambo and focused on Carol Danvers in a reluctant mentor relationship to Kamala Khan. I would have gone with a variation on the, "we gotta get you home, kid" trope. The antagonists motivation also needed work. I would have gone with a villain that wanted to drain Carol of her Infinity Stone granted powers.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Yeah, villains have also never really been Marvel's strongest suit. I think the "we gotta get you home, kid" trope would've been a good way to go about it. Done well, it could've been like a sci-fi road movie or something, which I definitely would've enjoyed it. After the Secret Wars arc, I hope they ground themselves a bit more.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 күн бұрын
Veteran Emmy nominated filmmaker Robert Greenwald has his fair share of flops: both of them were Xanadu (1980) - the latter was nominated for both Grammy & Young Artist Awards in 1981 and Hear No Evil (1993). In 1988, he was fired off from Sweet Hearts Dance and replaced by Howard Deutch of the Pretty in Pink fame. The producers who saw his first film as helmer was Pretty in Pink (1986). But Robert Greenwald fared better with both Disney's Breaking Up (1997) and Lionsgate's Steal This Movie (2000). In 2001, he formed Brave New Studios, where he turned his talents to non-fictional documentary filmmaking.
@scoutmaster33
@scoutmaster33 Ай бұрын
Disney refused to believe their problem with the M-She-U “IS” Brie Larson. Captain Marvel being sandwiched between Infinity War and End Game was thought to be a part of the infinity war saga by fans only to find out it had virtually nothing to do with it.
@robotrix
@robotrix Ай бұрын
And if Fury was going to call Captain Marvel shouldn't he have done it when Stark, Strange and Parker were kidnapped by Thanos? That's not an emergency? Instead he waits until the snap when for all he knows she was disappeared too? But no...God forbid she doesn't get her origin movie first! Black Widow didn't get one until she was dead.
@BalaRise
@BalaRise Ай бұрын
Lol why did they cast Johnny Depp to play a Native American?
@TeryonTheHuman
@TeryonTheHuman Ай бұрын
Bladerunner 2049 deserved better
@centrevezgaming4862
@centrevezgaming4862 Ай бұрын
Princess of mars already exists as an movie starring Traci Lords from 2009
@zakuraiyadesu
@zakuraiyadesu Ай бұрын
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
@steve_santiago
@steve_santiago Ай бұрын
Great video as always. You should definitely go back and watch all of Jessica Jones. It’s A+
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! The Netflix shows are on the list, though I think I might set aside some months to just power through all of the Marvel ones. I’ll have to get around to them eventually 😮‍💨
@peterhill8398
@peterhill8398 Ай бұрын
British film critic Mark Kermode initially gave Cloud Atlas a bad review and included it in his ‘10 worst films of the year’ list. But several years later he admitted that, upon repeat viewing, he had changed his opinion and said that, although still flawed, it was a film he now admired.
@geraldmartin7703
@geraldmartin7703 17 күн бұрын
Roger Ebert famously reversed his opinion on Night of the Living Dead, blasting it when it was originally released, praising it on reevaluation years later.
@Alanx_ai
@Alanx_ai Ай бұрын
Safe to say that making blade Runner 2049 at the scale was a massive risk of faith by the financiers. Fine by me but did they really think it will be a blockbuster? sometimes a bigger budget isn't a good thing. Don't get me wrong it was good but too long.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
I’m the odd one out that thinks the Blade Runner movies are both fine length wise. I think maybe they thought that with the 35 years between them, maybe it reached critical mass. If it was made for $100MM, it would’ve at least broken even.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
The Marvels faced challenges such as the SAG-AFTRA strike and a lack of star promotion, contributing to its low box office performance. The movie was unfairly criticized and faced misogyny before it even premiered, unlike other male-centric superhero movies. The Marvels shouldn't bear the responsibility for the decline in the MCU box office due to the shift towards streaming platforms and general audience disinterest in theatrical releases.
@Whookieee
@Whookieee Ай бұрын
Your videos are so interesting and thoughtful. Keep it up!
@crashk1955
@crashk1955 Ай бұрын
John Carter was good. Likèly poor marketing.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
And a bad name. They should've stuck with A Princess of Mars.
@danielrubinstein896
@danielrubinstein896 Ай бұрын
I saw it a few months ago and I think it's super basic, nothing spectacular really
@Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria
@Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria 6 күн бұрын
One major problem of Bladerunner 2049 is that the main protagonist is not a human and Ryan Gosling plays him very reserved and his girlfriend is a hologram. The audience had nobody to connect with.
@unclerat2131
@unclerat2131 Ай бұрын
John Carter was a mistake from the beginning for many reasons, but what flopped for me was A Princess of Mars was written by Burrows when he was a failure at everything he did to that point, but thought he could make some money writing. So he wrote a pulp adult erotic story that he knew was so bad he didn't have his name on it. He called himself Normal Bean, which is a good indicator of his creativity. A hard R rating of a pulp fantasy that at no time should have taken itself seriously, with an experienced director and good marketing, and they might have had a successful film for a third of what they paid out. 😎
@robotrix
@robotrix Ай бұрын
I think the problem for John Carter was Lucas has been borrowing from the story for so long that people watching the trailer were probably going "Oh, that's like..." fill in the SW movie here. They needed to do John Carter between Empire and RotJ.
@stanthonyofpadua1
@stanthonyofpadua1 Ай бұрын
I loved the 13th Warrior
@jseipp
@jseipp Ай бұрын
noted cannibal Armie Hammer
@erikdaniels0n
@erikdaniels0n Ай бұрын
The Marvels is unironically one of my favorite MCU movies. No, I’m not joking, this is not a bit. Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel and Kamala Khan/Ms Marvel are two of my favorite characters in the comics and have been for nearly a decade, so getting to see them on screen together was like Christmas for me. I enjoyed it because it was a fun, colorful romp through space that felt straight out of the comics. I don’t care if it flopped, it’s *MY* flop lmao
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Fair enough. I really wished they had focused more on Kamala Khan & Carol Danvers. It's one of my complaints about Spider-Man Homecoming as well: I wish they developed the relationship between Tony Stark & Peter Parker more. The movies have a really good chance to lean into the importance of mentoring, but seem to be squandering it by only skimming the surface.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Ай бұрын
I don't want to watch The Marvels... But I'd freely admit that I'd happily take it over X-Men Origins: Wolverine any day of the week. Seriously, the anti-woke morons ranting about how bad The Marvels is because "MUH SJW PROPAGANDA" really don't remember the slew of bad Marvel Movies that came before MCU Phase 4 and The Marvels. I should know. I was a victim of their grift for three years.
@princewellidk
@princewellidk Ай бұрын
​@@NebLleb Shut Up Woke Boy, Transgenders ruined Marvel and Cartoon Network.
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats Ай бұрын
There's a theory that Disney set John Carter up to fail. At the time of its production, Disney was in the process of buying Star Wars and would have had two space opera franchises taking money from each other. On top of that, part of any money Carter made would have to go to the Burroughs estate. Considering those factors, Disney just put John Carter out there to struggle its way to success. (And the 13th Warrior isn't a perfect movie, but it's still good. Its failure seems to be a product of spiteful maneuvering on the executive level. That would be a great story in itself.)
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Copyright wasn't an issue as A Princess of Mars has been in the public domain since the early 90s. Also, John Carter was in production since 2009, well before the Lucasfilm acquisition. When it comes to things like this, I always think of how DC bought Fawcett Comics a long time ago and intentionally sabotaged Captain Marvel (now Shazam) in order to prop up Superman. Companies do dumb things to themselves, for some ungainly reason. But I don't think that was the case here. It's just a matter of timing.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Ай бұрын
Of course, this theory is pretty bogus.
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats Ай бұрын
The copyright issue seems to be a little murky. According to the John Carter Files, while the books are in the public domain, the name is trademarked.
@ThomasHenderson-c8e
@ThomasHenderson-c8e 51 минут бұрын
The Marvels failed because of bad ✍️ bad action sences , BAD Character placement & Bad Main Villain storyline
@RetroDudeX77
@RetroDudeX77 2 күн бұрын
Blade Runner 2049 was awesome ! Far better than I expected it to be !
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Күн бұрын
It’s an excellent movie. I hope they continue with it.
@dreambotter6389
@dreambotter6389 Ай бұрын
We are lucky BR49 flopped, otherwise we'd get an endless list of slops of remakes & reboots & multiverse of the 2 movies.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
To be fair, we are getting the Blade Runner show on Amazon, plus there was an anime. Annapurna is also making a game lol
@dreambotter6389
@dreambotter6389 Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon Movie came out on 2017 , along with the anime (which technically was supplementary) . It's been 7 years. Had it been successful , well you can imagine the rest
@shroomkingdom8152
@shroomkingdom8152 12 күн бұрын
The Wachowskis were the most disappointing to me. I kept hoping for something as inspiring as The Matrix, but this video has inspired me to give Cloud Atlas and some of their other films another chance.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon 12 күн бұрын
Cloud Atlas is great. Highly recommend it.
@AndrewBlucher
@AndrewBlucher Ай бұрын
As someone who has seen every Marvel movie ... Sorry, that disqualifies you from making any sensible comment on any movie!
@peterhill8398
@peterhill8398 Ай бұрын
I can’t understand how ‘13th Warrior’ cost so much money, $160million!!!!?? You certainly don’t see it on screen. And l actually don’t mind the film, I’ve certainly seen a lot worse when it comes to historical/fantasy epics.
@PeterRabbit4Eva
@PeterRabbit4Eva 13 күн бұрын
Dude, sorry to not sorry, but ….. John Carter >>>>>>>>> Lone Ranger 😁
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon 13 күн бұрын
That I agree with, but I still like both lol
@louislamonte334
@louislamonte334 Ай бұрын
Undoubtedly Disney's unnecessary, charmless, misandrist and unwanted remake of "Snow White'(Snow Brown)will join this list, if it's ever even released!
@landiahillfarm6590
@landiahillfarm6590 Ай бұрын
Ya'll need to take this list with a bucket load of salt. In the history of film, consider how many movies were "box office flops" but went on to become either well known favorites years later, some even making it to "Cult Classic" status. From this list, just consider that the ORIGINAL Blade Runner was on release considered a flop mostly because it didn't meet Hollywood executives sales expectation. Today I defy you to find a Top "X" greatest Sci Fi films list that doesn't have it in the top 20. Just because a movie cant sell lunchboxes to kids does not mean its a bad movie.
@charlesc4677
@charlesc4677 28 күн бұрын
Stanton isn't to blame for John Carter's flop. It all goes down to Disney Marketing screwing the mouse. The movie itself is rock solid, entertaining, well filmed, balanced cast. The lack of promotion at all the right places denied it the buzz it deserved. Its gone on to be a popular film in streaming and *should* get a sequel but won't since Disney doesn't have the rights anymore. That movie got done dirty post-production. Nothing else.
@gertywhatagash_
@gertywhatagash_ Ай бұрын
What's sad is The Lone Ranger is considered a bomb. That movie is actually enjoyable. My brother got me into at after three attempts of me refusing. Based on what I heard unfortunately.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
It's why I usually avoid critical reviews on release (or if I see them, usually discount the score). I try to go to movies as blind as possible, meaning just based off the title, the poster or the trailer. If I see something that makes me go "Neat", I'll usually take a chance on the movie. That's served me fairly well since 2008, which is when I really started hitting theaters.
@nahuel
@nahuel Ай бұрын
There's no need of the 1000 "quote/end quote".
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
A habit I picked up from Hardcore History 😭
@pienmosh
@pienmosh Ай бұрын
According to these numbers, it appears that analysts are stating that Wonder Woman 1984 would need to gross over $500 million in order to make its money back. With a production budget of $200 million, this likely points to the film having a colossal marketing budget of over $300 million. This number is much higher than the typical marketing budget for a production, which often amounts to double the initial production budget of a film.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
1984 had some other issues, including pandemic pushes + a simultaneous release on HBO Max.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon The Marvels faced challenges such as the SAG-AFTRA strike and a lack of star promotion, contributing to its low box office performance. The movie was unfairly criticized and faced misogyny before it even premiered, unlike other male-centric superhero movies. The Marvels shouldn't bear the responsibility for the decline in the MCU box office due to the shift towards streaming platforms and general audience disinterest in theatrical releases.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon tenet was also a pandemic + a simultaneous release on HBO Max. yet it made 400 million over twice what ww84 did
@alandombrow584
@alandombrow584 Ай бұрын
I appreciate your comments about The Marvels but I was up to date on all the Marvel movies and the streaming series. I knew what was going on. That, plus just seeing Brie Larson as Captain Marvel again, was all I needed to love the movie. As an added bonus, I watched it in 3D. It's a shame that it wasn't more popular. I understand how it could have been but, still...
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the movie! It's a movie where I think the online discourse was more toxic than what the movie deserved. As I had said in another comment, I think there was a good movie in there somewhere, but I wish it didn't rely on having seen the TV stuff + had been a bit less loaded in terms of characters. If it was a mentorship movie with Brie Larson and Iman Vellani, I think I would've liked it quite a bit.
@TheSpanishInquisition87
@TheSpanishInquisition87 Ай бұрын
Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite movies. I don't understand how it flopped.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
I think it really came down to the marketing + complexity. There's multiple storylines and the studio didn't know how to pitch. It's one of those movies that I'm glad I was able to see in theaters.
@TheSpanishInquisition87
@TheSpanishInquisition87 Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon yeah, I get it, but you would think that word of mouth and critical praise would've helped.
@fivesixspins
@fivesixspins 19 күн бұрын
Why does KZbin ask for surveys on comments?
@polyestermammoth740
@polyestermammoth740 Ай бұрын
I didn’t mind the Marvels. I haven’t seen any of the TV and I managed to keep up. It wasn’t dreadful, but it wasn’t good. It’s hard to believe that the MCU has ended up here after being such a powerhouse.
@one1blue
@one1blue Ай бұрын
Marvels Sung Chi started off ok and then turned into a CGI blob fest of bright colors. All the movies in marvel phase…4? 5? Whatever phase it is have been pretty forgettable.
@EijiSalvador
@EijiSalvador Ай бұрын
Seems like every video cycles through the same films : John carter, Fitzcarraldo, blade runner, lone ranger. Getting boring
@23Prospero37
@23Prospero37 18 күн бұрын
Blade Runner 2049 should have been cut by 45 minutes. It was too long, too slow and I guessed the plot in the first 15 minutes, and Jared Leto acting as the Joker acting as Jared Leto was so annoying, I almost walked out
@bush-ee
@bush-ee Ай бұрын
Why does marvel contenue to use the exact same production, marketing, and distribution strategy when the movies that follow it BOMB
@arekkrolak6320
@arekkrolak6320 Ай бұрын
I would probably go see John Carter movie if it was called Princess of Mars, the thing is I never ready any John Carter books, so I didn't know who he was so putting his name in the title kind of told me - you should not be watching it if you don't know who he is already...
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Yup. They should've just gone with A Princess of Mars.
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 19 күн бұрын
"Blade Runner 2049" is one of those movies that people claim to like just so they can pretend to be better than those who didn't like it. A true "snob" film. The critique here highlights that, blaming the failure on the slow pace and deep plot. Some of the most iconic films of all time have slow paces and more intricate plots. Saying people "just didn't get it" is the weakest argument possible.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
tenet was also a pandemic + a simultaneous release on HBO Max. yet it made 400 million over twice what ww84 did
@nozaslafinda
@nozaslafinda Ай бұрын
true Wonder Woman 1984 is a bigger flop than the marvels
@MichaelMarquez-m3b
@MichaelMarquez-m3b Ай бұрын
I don’t get the appeal of these CGI heavy movies.
@joeshoe6184
@joeshoe6184 Ай бұрын
It would be nice if Hollywood could come up with something new and original, rather than reiterated franchises and redundant innumerable sequels of tired played out IPs. In a relatated story, the comic book superhero genre is as tired and played out as any in my memory, which dates back to the late 70s.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
ww84 Wonder Woman 1984 is a bigger flop than the marvels ...... the marvels had almost no marketing costs because of the strikes .....and other movies released in the same way ww84 was and the same week or month still made almost a billion dollars
@Kwippy
@Kwippy Ай бұрын
Most on this list are mediocre, not terrible. Cloud Atlas was fairly good. The Lone Ranger is the one absolute stinker.
@DoubleMrE
@DoubleMrE Ай бұрын
Is anyone besides me sick of superhero movies? I don’t care if I never see another one.
@ToABrighterFuture
@ToABrighterFuture Ай бұрын
I concur, but I think the problem is less the comicbookification per se, and more the lack of a hero's journey, worthy antagonists, and, for lack of a better expression, "breathing space." For instance, "Die Hard" works so well, because on one side, you have one guy who's in completely over his head, who grows enough onscreen that you can't help but root for him. Opposing him, is one of the most complex villains ever put to celluloid. The dialogue snaps, and the action is big, but without being ridiculous. And there are quieter scenes that offer both exposition and dramatic relief. Being completely spastic, over an entire runtime, doesn't work. The modern multiplex, alas, is overloaded with heroes that don't need to develop, fighting antagonists that are one-dimensional, over Macguffins that aren't worth caring about, with everything dialed up to eleven. That formula might occasionally work in a six-panel grid, but it's not sustainable at twenty-four frames per second.
@blushslice
@blushslice Ай бұрын
I love cloud atlas and don’t get the hate it’s so rewarding watching multiple times and seeing the connections
@myfavoritecolourisblue3184
@myfavoritecolourisblue3184 Ай бұрын
Can you do this disturbing movie called Poaching by the Water (Horse, Woman, and Dog) 1990 it’s basically a z00p1le movie
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Wow. I just looked it up and it seems wild. I was thinking of doing a video on whether or not movies can go too far and I'll add it to that one (if I can get my hands on it).
@TOFKAS01
@TOFKAS01 Ай бұрын
The marvels deserved it.
@TheZanzibarMan
@TheZanzibarMan Ай бұрын
I like Spirits Within.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
👊 There's a movie that truly was ahead of its time.
@carmelosgro6413
@carmelosgro6413 Ай бұрын
The Marvels would be slightly better if the cut Miss Marvel
@pienmosh
@pienmosh Ай бұрын
ms marvel iman vellani?
@amadeusamwater
@amadeusamwater 23 күн бұрын
I watched the John Carter movie, it was pretty bad. I'm not sure anyone has ever been able to make a good movie from that series. I have read the entire series of books.
@BB-ss8sh
@BB-ss8sh 29 күн бұрын
Love John Carter!!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Ай бұрын
Superhero movies are for kids.
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Them be fighting words.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 4 күн бұрын
@@Syntopikon For Emmy Award winner Richard Benjamin, he had a lot of major fights after his directorial debut was 1982's My Favorite Year at Warners which was very successful and earned a 1983 Oscar nod for Sir Peter O'Toole as best actor in a leading role. His other successful directing credits were City Heat, The Money Pit, Mermaids, Made in America and Mrs. Winterbourne, but he had a series of flops where audiences weren't pleased: Little Nikita, Downtown, Milk Money, The Favor (which he took over from Donald Petrie) and the final film he has finally directed was Marci X. Since 1979, he has turned his talents as a television director. His indie television production company, Cartier Enterprises with his real life wife, Paula Prentiss. Its creative team at Cartier: Art Levinson, Patrick J. Palmer, Mark Warner and Edward A. Warschilka. Based at Sony Pictures Studios nearby the Norman Lear Stage in Culver City, California since August 19, 2000.
@user-pl7lr5dn8q
@user-pl7lr5dn8q 10 сағат бұрын
u need to do a better job at writing ur scripts. feels like im reading an essay being written by a 6th grade esl student
@frankvangemert4259
@frankvangemert4259 3 күн бұрын
Snow White 2025
@michaelhurley3171
@michaelhurley3171 Ай бұрын
I actually liked Heaven's Gate. Much better than Dances With Wolves as a Western. Should have been marketed better.
@RJFP67
@RJFP67 Ай бұрын
Lately Disney has jumped the shark on flopped films . They’re systematically destroying legacy film franchises by producing woke garbage 😂.
@dirkdiggler.
@dirkdiggler. Ай бұрын
18:52 terrible take. Lion king looks like shit
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
There are parts where it suffers, and it's fine to not like it, but it's indisputably a technical marvel.
@dirkdiggler.
@dirkdiggler. Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon I'm disputing it. Many other (frankly better) youtubers dispute it. What the hell are you talking about
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
​@@dirkdiggler. Feel free to link some and I'll check them out.
@ThomasHenderson-c8e
@ThomasHenderson-c8e 54 минут бұрын
AN OVER CEREBRITY 📽 FLICK 🤨?? PAL Oh Goodness Sake Don't Go 👀 Infinity War or Endgame! They'll blow your 🤯 with Who's Who's in Hollywood!
@FrostytheWicked
@FrostytheWicked Ай бұрын
Nice clickbait
@cdeford2
@cdeford2 29 күн бұрын
John Carter - bad adaptation, bad casting, bad CGI. Indiana Jones on Mars bears no relation to the original story whatever. The problem with Blade Runner 2049 is that the story made no sense and let down the great visuals and acting.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Ай бұрын
lol John Carter lol
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
I stand by it being a fun watch 😤
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Ай бұрын
@@Syntopikon Tru, it is meant to be a damn solid time, but it will ALWAYS be remembered by how badly it failed.
@edsmith4821
@edsmith4821 Ай бұрын
The Marvels also suffered because the fans let Disney know that the movie was unrealistic and had a woke adjenda and we had enough I still havent seen it and refuse to until it comes on regular tv
@gamerman360
@gamerman360 Ай бұрын
First comment let’s get it!!!!!!!!
@nozaslafinda
@nozaslafinda Ай бұрын
Wonder Woman 1984 is a bigger flop than the marvels
@danielrubinstein896
@danielrubinstein896 Ай бұрын
But at least they have COVID to blame
@freewilliam93
@freewilliam93 28 күн бұрын
Brie Larson in that white shirt should of saved the marvels.
@thesami00
@thesami00 Ай бұрын
Get woke go broke simple
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Ай бұрын
Define woke.
@michaelwelter9509
@michaelwelter9509 Ай бұрын
Hanks lost all credibility with his trips to Epstein's island.
@bossfan49
@bossfan49 Ай бұрын
Wtf is this accent?
@Syntopikon
@Syntopikon Ай бұрын
Just how I speak 😭
@chez0788
@chez0788 5 күн бұрын
The Marvels is EXACTLY like every Marvel movie that hits theraters. Convulted trash lol. How nobody realizes that yet is beyond me. You have to watch three movies before seeing the chrrent one. It's all homework. What the hell even is Wandavision? Too many dumb characters nobody cares about to begin with. Disney and marvel are political propaganda trash.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 20 күн бұрын
Films fail for any number of reasons Some fail because the public is stupid. _Master and Commander_ was superb _The 13th Warrior_ was great Some of them would have been fine as a Made for TV Movie _Office Space_ Then you have a lot of these ultra expensive movies - that never the less made what for anything else - would be a tremendous amount of money - just - not compared to what they cost. So - it's not like they were Bad Movies that no one went to see - they just cost to much to make. Here - the film makers are probably responsible for not keeping their budget in mind and (for example) shooting countless retakes. _The Marvels_ failed because people were sick of Woke Diversity Films. Grrrrrl Powrrrr movies fail. Just look at the All Girl Casts - and - odds are - that movie failed. _Annihilation_ _Birds of Prey_ _Ghostbusters: Answer the Call_ _Terminator: Dark Fate_ Why can't you shits own up to that? YOU never say that the movie failed because it was Woke. .
@AthanTom-nd8no
@AthanTom-nd8no 6 күн бұрын
Annoying voice over.
@beleffme
@beleffme Ай бұрын
The Marvels faced challenges such as the SAG-AFTRA strike and a lack of star promotion, contributing to its low box office performance. The movie was unfairly criticized and faced misogyny before it even premiered, unlike other male-centric superhero movies. The Marvels shouldn't bear the responsibility for the decline in the MCU box office due to the shift towards streaming platforms and general audience disinterest in theatrical releases.
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