Experience of Music | ಸಂಗೀತದ ಅನುಭವ

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ಪ್ರಾತ್ಯಕ್ಷಿಕೆ: ಟಿ.ಎಂ. ಕೃಷ್ಣ ಮತ್ತು ಅವರ ಶಿಷ್ಯವರ್ಗ
ಪಿಟೀಲು: ಅದಿತಿ ಕೃಷ್ಣಪ್ರಕಾಶ್
ಮೃದಂಗ: ಪ್ರವೀಣ ಸ್ಪರ್ಷ್
Ninasam Samskriti Shibira 2019
Demonstration by T.M. Krishna and his Disciples
Violin: Aditi Krishnaprakash
Mridangam: Praveen Sparsh

[@venkatachalla6289]

This program shows another side of T M Krishna, that of a highly introspective, gifted teacher. He takes being a 'Guru' very seriously.

[@msniro]

TM Krishna is an under appreciated genius in carnatic music. He just amazes me each time I listen

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Devotion is a key element of Karnatak music, which TMK tries to underplay in his musical theories.

[@venkatraman4856]

An excellent and frank teacher. A top class musician. Wonderful students

[@aparnack]

We are not conquerors of music… I like that very much. We must be humble in front of power of music

[@tns7656]

It is always exciting to see and hear the end product of a Carnatic musician---concert on stage. But it is an entirely different experience to get a glimpse of how s/he got to that stage (no pun intended). This is essentially the format of this KZbin presentation. So many take away messages! Krishna is not only a great stage performer but also a great teacher. I am sure his students (and accompanists) are immensely appreciative of the knowledge he imparts and the time he invests in them. I wish Vignesh Ishwar was also present. Finally, I am sure TMK didn't question Semmangudi the way, e.g., Rithvik and Praveen question TMK. But these exchanges are healthy and necessary for everyone's development.

[@anandputhanikar8722]

Thank you for the blissful experience. Thank you Ninasam. Thank you so much Shri T M Krishna sir and his disciples. A great experience it was, I felt it's like I am one of the audience, and also I remembered my classes where my Sir Shri Harish Kulkarni was teaching Hindustani music. I love the way presented and made to experience here.

[@ramasubramoniamr1384]

5:34 TMKs singing 'mantra' is as resonant and Powerful as chanting a sacred mantra. Listening to it takes me to another realm all together

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Musical classes of TMK could be online more often. This will benefit thousands musicians and students now and in future. 🙏

[@susheelaramaswamy7752]

V good experience

[@susheelaramaswamy7752]

Aàq

[@ramaprasad7909]

My pranaams to his Pandithwam.. 🙏🌹🌹🙏🙏🙏

[@murthymrn9056]

One of the best lecture demonstration of tm Krishna I liked very much

[@kalavathyranganathan4678]

Excelent!! KRISHNA and Team👋👋👏👏👋👋👋🙏🙏

[@camneocare]

He is a divine teacher.

[@shanthip3987]

Fabulous presentation..very nice to see all of them together with TMK

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Karnatak music does not have to lose its soul to please foreigners. When music has bliss, people appreciate irrespective of the name of the deities invoked in the music. Sufi music and Gospel music are clear examples of this. In fact, Karnatak music was started to popularise the huge body of Hari Dasa literature, which focusses both on devotion and social reform. Sadly, even most great musicians do not normally sing the songs of social reform. Today, TMK and other singers could sing the great reform songs of Purandara Dasa and Kanaka Dasa and convey the messages of social reform.

[@sidharthk.s2285]

Unveiled 'the experience' perfectly. Pinpoint discussion. Tmk is an experience. Music adores him, morethan the other way, i believe Loved this one!

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Watching an outspoken genius craft and explain music is bliss.

[@gautamdikshit9888]

2:25:30 - Swami, TM Krishna, what you are asking is to witness sadness, anger, happiness, disgust and all possible emotions equally. Will I even be an artist if I'm not capable of enjoying all those emotions and thereby sublimating them with my expression? Nothing becomes me more than the pride I get when I'm singing to an "audience". Therefore, my expression is a very embodiment of my pride. Also, nothing defines me more than the solitude I enjoy. Therefore, at that time, my solitude becomes my music. I'm not saying it's right but it's very difficult if not impossible to come out of it.

[@user-ot7fx8qs8t]

Great guru❤❤❤❤❤

[@padma3631]

I agree with what Ritwik Raja said about singing in private and keeping it to themselves and not necessarily put it out to everyone to hear, it is the musicians view and T M Krishna sounded like the music has to be the same for every type of space

[@arjunmacharya]

44:01 "Repetition is the most underestimated aspect of learning"

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Socrates or Aristotle has emphasized the repitition.

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Musical classes of TMK could be online more often. This will benefit thousands musicians and students now and in future. 🙏

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Repitition was emphasized by Aristotle. In music, repetition with variation is the key. medium.com/@steveagyeibeyondlifestyle/we-are-what-we-repeatedly-do-excellence-then-is-not-really-an-act-but-a-habit-ee6f01b3120

[@padmavaddamani8158]

Excellent excellent excellent 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌 no words

[@indiansextherapist]

I loved this conversation. The connections with politics and the art of listening. So on point and so fanastic. Thank you 💗

[@arjunnarayanan271]

2:19:47 I agree with Rithvik on this point. If we take a step back from music for a second -- we know from several studies in behavioral psychology that humans (and also several animals) behave differently when they know that they are being observed by others. Further, Rithvik's point about the emotion associated with the space is undeniably true; a mother who has raised a child in a house over twenty years will certainly sing Chinanjiru Kiliye differently in her house as opposed to how she would sing it on stage. Having said this, I also agree with TMK when he says that the Carnatic Concert sound has been, and continues to be, defined in terms of what is and is not acceptable. Marginalizing padams and javalis as "light" music reserved for the end of a concert is obviously problematic. I think using the very singular example of Sri Semmangudi Srinivas Iyer singing in his house on his easy-chair to drive home the broader point of who gets to define what a concert should sound like probably ended up causing more confusion in the discussion. Because in the case of such singular examples it is impossible to separate out the myriad factors that resulted in Semmangudi Mama choosing to sing the way he did in his house.

[@shyamgopalkarthik2125]

Well said! Interestingly when TMK gave a talk on " Privacy and the Public Gaze: a Singer's Reflection" in my college couple of years back, he mentioned the same example in the context of how privacy helps an artist in their creativity. In fact here( thewire.in/culture/right-to-privacy-judgment-art-artists ) he writes about this specific example: "My own guru, and one of the greatest Carnatic musicians, Semmangudi Srinivasier would sing sitting on an ‘easy chair’ with a magazine or a newspaper. I would go to a window behind the chair to stand and hear the most incredible bhairavi I have ever heard. The bhairavi he sang from the stage was also great, but it was not the same. The first bhairavi was the fruit of his creativity, the second was of his artistry. He needed privacy for the first and a public for the second." While the points about some types of music being relegated to "chamber music" or the music of the Nadaswaram being confined mainly to the temples are valid, this example seems misplaced.

[@ajayprabhu9631]

Completely agree

[@sumatikrishnan1614]

“ a mother who has raised a child in a house over twenty years will certainly sing Chinanjiru Kiliye differently in her house as opposed to how she would sing it on stage.” Yes, happy to to grant you your reasoned certainty. But only one will be an art experience. The other Is illicit.

[@raghow]

2:36:15 Enjoyed Praveen shining bright in the limited time frame allotted to him. It is usually very hard to stump TMK with your wit and he did it brilliantly with his question at 2:39:00

[@sridharsm366]

I am just wowed by the time he finished talking about the Sri Nadaathi

[@sharadadilip3095]

Unbelived the experience perfectly.

[@rajamsethuraman5208]

Excellent and excellent sahitya Suddam nice easy to fallow

[@VSPG_SIVANI]

One of the best lecture demonstrations

[@rajnair6880]

this is food for the soul

[@girishabs5745]

Initial rendition of maayamaalavagowla was fabulous

[@Satya622]

I agree with you in this, I request you to listen and enjoy DKJ's version kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYKodph7q5trhMU

[@MYTHILIKRISHNAN62]

Superb Sir. I could really relate some of our experiences in learning music from what you have tried to elucidate.

[@umaparameswaran1168]

v nice my favourite singer God bless

[@aravindsudarshan2705]

2:21:03 - The man in the yellow dress in the audience, his head is brighter than my future

[@rajeshkumar-dl9db]

I hope your father also has a brighter future like him. I think you are from some utopic country where people will never age.

[@dinakarramachandra6861]

Excellent demo Krishnan Sir

[@samudyathavramu6977]

A good experience was there in neenasam samskruthi shibira audionce also involved it might be called hrudaya samvada .thanks for the up loading

[@aparnack]

I feel what Semmangudi mama did was right. One has to apply discretion on what to give the audience. It is just like how we have certain stringent behavioural boundaries in public places but we don’t restrict our emotions at home.

[@vishwaprasad8013]

Excellent!!!!!

[@k.s.sabarinathan4953]

Very useful video for music students

[@LathaMk-ho9jr]

Music library

[@osnmurty6317]

Bhakti, sahityam, traditional values are important for carnatic Music. Unnecessary things should not be attributed in this field. Service may be rendered to wipe social inequalities and to poor people like MsSubbulaxmi gaaru

[@jayasreel3814]

Pranam

[@kavithakrishnan9757]

can i know the name of the institute where tm krishna teaches?

[@archanars5739]

🙏🙏🙏

[@jayashreeajit4579]

Interesting!!!

[@wizardofrosss]

He loves to talk!!

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Problem with many Indians is that they don't listen. Devotion is a key element of Karnatak music, which TMK tries to underplay in his musical theories.

[@padma3631]

this is by far the best learning experience for a music student

[@kschami]

Would like to know the names of the disciples singing.. recognise some of them but not all

[@k.s.sabarinathan4953]

1.31.00 exactly emotion is a proper grammar

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Devotion is a key element of Karnatak music, which TMK tries to underplay in his musical theories.

[@maheshchithrappa6903]

Wonderful experience to Listen the music & as well the description of it! Beautifully de-constructed the behind the scene happening. Thanks a ton for bringing this experience. 🙏

[@aravindsudarshan2705]

2:19:35 What a shock!

[@RS-df2gr]

TMK is an exceptional artist and his effortless singing is something amazing!! My earnest request to him is please keep off creating or talking about controversial subjects.

[@karthikssnit]

Names of all singers?

[@AnoopKashyap]

From left to right: G. Ravikiran, Vikram Raghavan, Adityanarayanan shankar, Vidya Raghavan, TMK, Rithvik Raja, Bhargavi Venkatram, Vignesh Krishnamurthy

[@sridharsm366]

When you sing for your self it's experimental. You don't bring for sale something that's in laboratory undergoing research and contemplating.. you bring things that are definitive and results driven... can you for the sake of pushing boundaries, sing a cinematic or cinema song or a Western music like delivery in carnatic classical stage and vice versa?

[@vasukinagabhushan]

TMK is a musical genius. However, spirituality is the foundation of Karnatak music, which should be in focus.

[@srikanthmnb]

Good art forms ultimately free themselves of traditional shackles and expand. Any art that fails to do so will not survive without artificial support from other propped up institutions. Blues music was supposed to be the music of African-Americans. Now blues music is performed and enjoyed by people of all kinds. Carnatic music would benefit from such an outward movement and that would be a service to music lovers all over the world. Spirituality is a subjective term and anyone anywhere in the world can experience spirituality in any form of art.

[@vasukinagabhushan]

@@srikanthmnb Your point is well taken. Karnatak music does not have to lose its soul to please foreigners. When music has bliss, people appreciate irrespective of the name of the deities invoked in the music. Sufi music and Gospel music are clear examples of this. In fact, Karnatak music was started to popularise the huge body of Hari Dasa literature, which focusses both on devotion and social reform. Sadly, even most great musicians do not normally sing the songs of social reform. Today, TMK and other singers could sing the great reform songs of Purandara Dasa and Kanaka Dasa.

[@AIIMS58]

No other artist has rendered this beautiful elaborate composition of Muthuswamy dikshitar, except TMK, twic, once in 2017 and now in 2020. What makes this performance unique is his disciples singing one segment, sequentially, seamlessly, in a relay race mode. TMK has been magnanimous, letting his disciples participate, thereby nurturing the talents of budding artists. TMK has his quirks; that comes with the territory of exceptionally gifted. Let us at the big picture, admire and enjoy the delightful music. It would be more delightful, if TMK talks less and sings more. R. Rajagopalan

[@Samskrithii]

he renders it every now and then. in 2018 he sang it in mysore concert as well as in tripanitura.

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Sangeeta without Bhakti is going in circles.

[@nanditharamesh7649]

Carnatic experience without a mention of its soul.. BHAKTI..?

[@user-wx9te3gz6n]

Don't cry 😭

[@vsrinivasan574]

Sir, we love your music, but at the same time we are disciples of nityanada, let you language be simple and clear to all

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Don't waste life running behind frauds.

[@svsumasvsuma4447]

When and where did this program happen?

[@AnoopKashyap]

October 2019 in Sagara, Karnataka.

[@padma3631]

Who was the organisers? Amazingly insightful and useful program, kudos to the organisers and T M Krishna and the dedicated students

[@shivakumarmudigonda2512]

This experimental event lacks melody

[@MrKanthikumar]

Why does a genius need a computer screen in front for his genius eyes to be endlessly focused on. Who are you kiddin'?

[@madhusudhanaraodharmavaram7529]

I remember the words of Vidushi T. Brinda saying that singers should speak less and sing more.

[@souravtn1581]

He is bloody confused. A classic case of an asset turned liability. Wish him good health in future

[@nanimys]

Are you a stage performer?

[@vasukinagabhushan]

TMK talks to himself. He does not listen to others.

[@k.s.sabarinathan4953]

May b his style ,unknowingly

[@giridhartirumalai1600]

90% of content in his lectures are extremely non-informative. Too much NOISE i8n his talks. I pity the audience. A continuous rattling noise by him and his team. Every Guru has unique approach. TMK is NOT the ultimate Guru BY any stretch of imagination. He is after all a singer like Sanjay or RG or Abhishkeh etc. BUT don't they add lot of value to CM landscape? This guy is a publicity monger and pity the audience. His views NEED not be correct. I wish other popular carnatic musicians from Chennai also get into the mode of giving lots of Lectures that is more substantial . The Sanjays, Abhishekhs, RDs, shashanks, Pathris, of carnatic music field are highly capable.

[@sreenivasasharma1796]

Omkv

[@MrKanthikumar]

It is "DHA' NOT "Da". This guy is supposed to be the leading exponent of our music. Who are you kidding?

[@pavietransarojkumar1073]

Its ''da'' in carnatic music and ''dha'' in hindustani.And yes he is a leading exponent. Who are you kidding?