Expert with Cheap Gun vs Amateur with Expensive Gun

[@montyriviera795]

A gun expert was once asked what's the most important thing about a firearm. He answered ' when you pull the trigger it goes bang'

[@alexclarke373]

This is what shooting sport is about. Having a laugh and smashing clays with your mates no matter what the weather is. Then go have a dram of whiskey and be booking the next outing with a grin on your face. ☺️

[@robgreenside5075]

Just goes to show you---a 26" barreled SxS will work on many targets in the right hands. Great video !!!!!

[@iamfr00tl00ps]

Ed Solomons kills me. Love these videos with him.

[@jerseyrock1969]

I have to say if ever i needed a shooting lesson i would definitely try to get one of Ed as he's not big headed and i like the way he help's you.

[@SirBerus]

Personally I would like to see what if any difference there is for both shooters if they compare a good but cheaper gun at say £800 or so against one of the top guns. What do you actually gain apart from nicer wood etc? How much better is the trigger, balance etc?

[@jimmarcham6271]

"I'm less repulsed than I was last time" Classic .... 🤣

[@twinpotracer]

The black action on your longthorn is simply wonderful!

[@joelhall5124]

The stock though! 😍

[@levischenk2668]

Absolutely love these videos. Loads of fun!

[@Jakeo93]

I love the funky look of that SxS, it looks like the 500 Nitro Express rifle with that raised rib. Very good video chaps

[@jameswilson6717]

You guys are just the best a can’t put ma phone down when you two are in town just excellent.All the very best 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@CraigK80]

Another class vid by JC, Sasha and Ace Solomons! Great work guys! That K80 though 🤤

[@perrypappous7617]

Excellent rapport between you, gentlemen. The SxS looks like a Winchester Model 21, including the irritatingly narrow gap between the barrels and the face. However, it is true that this SxS design most closely mimics a dedicated sporting clays O/U. Perry Pappous, SoCal, USA

[@refswag77]

Love these vids with Ed. Keepm comin!

[@prebaned]

It really is the operator. I watch 870 pump guns out shoot the big boys with thier 20K under/overs. A 20k gun does not break clays 20 times better than a 1k gun, but they look pretty and handel better, just not 20 times better.

[@Ebbyman413]

I went shooting sporting clays years ago in Montana; talking to the Ol' Timer who owned the place about how nice the shotgun I borrowed from him shot, he told me "It's the Indian, not the arrow". I learned later in the day he shoots with Team Krieghoff, so that really upped the compliment! In the right hands, as long as it goes 'boom', it's a killer!

[@josh19200]

Site by side double barrels are some of my favorite looking guns

[@hammyh1165]

Fantastic, one all now , can't wait for the rematch. Those Classic Doubles were fantastic guns when they came out and still look like they can do the business.

[@christophermillington61]

I've literally just sat dwn to put a bit of tgs on and bam new content great work tgs

[@davidpyper82]

#metoo

[@twinpotracer]

Me too 😂

[@Plainsimple67]

IT DEFINITELY WAS A PERFECT TIMING FOR ME THIS MORNING !!

[@Andrew93]

A 201 in the states would go for 2,500 to 3,000 USD. Shame we can't get decent SxS and O/U here for $300-400. Only option we have is the Stoeger.

[@funkla65]

That SxS would be considerably spendier over here. Looks quite nice, but I'd much rather have 30" on it, which would let the muzzle end take up less space in the sky.

[@kenlansing1216]

That Krieghoff looks prettier than a gob of butter melting on a fresh biscuit.

[@funkla65]

I just heard Buddy Brown apply that line to that TikTok gymnast. She is something, but I think Budddy would agree the Krieghoff would be less trouble.

[@kenlansing1216]

@@funkla65 And in the long run a LOT less expensive.

[@mattcosgrove8254]

Lol be careful you will confuse the UK fans. They are not sure why you would melt butter on a cookie.

[@kenlansing1216]

@@mattcosgrove8254 Truth be told I borrowed the expression from an American. As usual he will take the blame for any confusion.

[@jlight1965]

You know, beauty is such a subjective thing Ken. The technical excellence of a Kreighoff is without dispute. However, personally I find them as ugly as sin. As with most things German, superbly engineered, but always a case of substance over style. Certainly, no one of Italian origin was involved in the design of a Kreighoff. To be clear, I'm not saying you're wrong, just have a view different to mine. For me it's a black-action Perazzi all day long. Safe shooting mate.

[@Blondejam]

Bloody cracking vid! I have a lesson booked with Abbey Ling in a few weeks to sort out my gaparooney which really does need a look at. BTW that's a groover of a side by side with a nice broad forend I have an old Spanish SXS boxlock with a forend which is as thin as a sardine, its good fun to shoot but a leap of faith to have a stab at clays but fun anyway. Funny enough it does well on the rabbit! Anyway, great to see Ed again he is a real spark. Nice vid lads it's a great informative 20 odd mins of which I love to see and look forward too... Good egg

[@levischenk9224]

I have to say that this is one of the most fun videos I've seen!

[@the45er]

It is amazing how inexpensive shotguns are in the UK compared to the states.

[@robertmarvell9626]

It’s because the laws are tighter here and so the demand is not high. You can buy a reasonable sxs for £50

[@michaelplank8966]

No we have a lot of inexpensive guns

[@charleskittler4330]

Great job John and having Ed S again is superior two thumbs up

[@richardtimms8733]

Classic Doubles 201 S/S, Winchester 23 predecessor, I remember they were expensive new, marketed as the S/S shoots like an O/U.

[@kevinmartin7354]

I’d take the side x side any day. I love them.

[@jonpettet7085]

Had a mouthful of baked beans when ed came out with the human faeces joke!!funny. Nice video again 👍.

[@darellkettley6622]

Love these videos with Ed great entreatment not sure with the red trainers !! 🤔🤣👌👊

[@joelhall5124]

Not bad for the money at all. I've been clay shooting a couple of times at a new ground a club member recommended, and have just got into the UO guns. First was a fibre optic bead which was pretty distracting, but quick to get used to. Hit 80% of the birds. Today it was a Browning with a much nicer sight picture and black steel bead, but I didn't do too well on double clays. Have to admit, I thought moving from a SxS to UO would be simple but it's quite a learning curve. One that I'm learning to love.

[@joeltowle2737]

I wish we had inexpensive side by sides here, that is beautiful!

[@paulvenn4447]

That Blackthorne is looking amazing Jonny!

[@EmilMouritsen]

I could watch you two for hours! It’s so much fun 😂

[@mallardcutter7209]

I’ve shot a SxS with short barrels and it’s a totally different feel. I tend to over swing with it and get jerky with the trigger. Difficult to say the least.

[@dorin_stanciu]

...not the highest rib I've seen on a SxS... but unusually high, nevertheless... and I just noticed it had a mid bead too! :-D

[@mikesample3960]

I would love to get my hands on one of those classic doubles 201s but they seem very thin on the ground and more expensive than that £250 price tag, are they worth the extra as I keep seeing them sold at £500-700 and for that I am in the low end of the vintage market for some nicer old English hand made stuff? Just a guy who's fallen in love with side by side shooting! 😂😂

[@tgsoutdoors]

Unfortunately you might be in for £800-1000 for a nice example but luckily this one was overlooked in the back of holts auctioneers

[@Freklund]

Ed is a Savage 😂 oh man do i want a couple of lessons with him 😄

[@1glenngary]

What was the make and model of the SxS?

[@wekker090]

@ my first big match ever I showed up with a 300 euro second hand over and under, I was used to it and it was mine so the score was good.

[@mikeproctor3664]

The Classic Double was using the same frame as the Parker Reproduction.

[@robertmarvell9626]

These cheap guns were working guns designed be robust to put meat on the table and so were built to a low budget but at the end of the day it’s two gas pipes putting lead in the sky. I bought a sxs laurona for £50 and it is fun

[@antiquebeautyfirearms782]

Congratulations for the channel !!

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thank you so much 😀

[@michaelansell2531]

Really enjoy all your videos. When might we see some game shooting videos John?

[@tgsoutdoors]

This Thursday and the Thursday after

[@bruceyeoward6544]

Proves it is the man not the gun, within reason, you don't need 32" barrels and the latest and greatest, as long as the gun is functional, safe and fits. My English s/s are 100yrs old and perfect shooting condition, my Win 101 PG LWT 27" Winchoke has been re-built new pins & spring, will see me out. Lots of good buys out there to get into shooting without breaking the bank, look for Browning/Miroku/Beretta etc.

[@glenns7139]

Usual quality production - brilliant production. Would love to go on a ahoot sometime Jonny. Keep it up 👍👍

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

That SxS is actually quite nice, i'd like that

[@ShootingMatt1]

Army of Darkness 🤭 Good movie, have to rewatch it!

[@rodrigorodriguesdeoliveira6773]

Can someone explain me why some people use the sight in the middle of the barrel?

[@tgsoutdoors]

A Quick Look at Mid-Beads kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIGVYoSChqaWpJo

[@ardenpowers7730]

Jolly good show . . .

[@alexandermanchev1616]

What models are those sunglasses? They look great

[@teoalexiou8622]

So the first thing that mattets most is the shooter of thegun and not just the gun and its price...the shooter and the fit of the stock are the most important factors from my perspective.

[@PATTERDALE78]

Brilliant vid 👍 What make is that side by side

[@Willenium2k4]

Ed, the burning question here is whether it shot like it's Shop Smart's top of the line?

[@Demineurs]

Whats is the glasses that you have guys ? Nice video btw :)

[@hannibal89]

Whats the name of the cheap side by side shot gun ?

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Great Tutorial Johnny and Ed Every time out I get knowledge from watching. But I have a question I've owned a side x side but do companies make a left handed one one?

[@matthewoates53]

What’s the brand of that side by side, I actually want one

[@MR12GAUGE]

Nothing wrong with a winchester 23/cd 201 great old guns, kodensha plant can't go wrong really, once you get to a certain level in gun making quality you can pay all you want you really don't get a measureable advantage outside of gunfitting

[@johnsoncozier2152]

Just having a little fun 👍

[@panayiotispanayides2141]

Its whats behind the gun that counts. The price is secondary. A Lada with get you from A to B as will a Ferrari, but I'd much rather drive the Ferrari.

[@danmurphy3021]

Are you shooting # 6 shot at clays ? We can't shoot anything larger than a # 7 1/2

[@tgsoutdoors]

6.5's

[@1987rhys]

I spoke with Ed at an open day at Ian Coleys. I asked him if he bought that Zabala 😂 He said he would buy it to use as a cricket bat 😂

[@tgsoutdoors]

It is a very unloved gun!

[@1987rhys]

@@tgsoutdoors I know! You should sell him one 😂

[@sfika01]

What flat cap is he wearing?

[@JacquesRice]

As long as it's a single trigger, ejector with a fibre optic bead and is compatile with modern chokes I personally couldn't care less tbh.

[@davidpyper82]

What's the sxs ?

[@lucastolson3570]

classic doubles the same as a winchester 23 made in japan by Olin-Kodensha

[@davidpyper82]

@@lucastolson3570 thank you sir

[@davidpyper82]

@@lucastolson3570 thank you sir

[@tgsoutdoors]

Full review coming in 2 weeks

[@Plainsimple67]

@@tgsoutdoors can you do one on a 32 inch sxs barrel Dickenson?

[@sahindelioglu2522]

What is the brand of your glasses? The orange one?

[@tgsoutdoors]

www.edwardseyewear.com Hiroki 2’s

[@sahindelioglu2522]

@@tgsoutdoors Thank you so much

[@stuartbenchsaw]

CFG ???? maybe if you have a youtube channel then the service is brilliant but its different for jo public paid money on the 2nd November and still waiting . Its a long 20-25 working days. Im confident that it is worth the wait. Always puts a smile on my face when you and edd get together, keep it up

[@darronlockett9211]

Why is it when I search for the cheap gun I get hit with $10,000+ prices? Is there a cheaper version of it or something?

[@tgsoutdoors]

A classic doubles 201 for $10k!!!

[@royjennison3916]

great vid , is the side by side for sale

[@tgsoutdoors]

No 😂 I’m not done with it yet!

[@nzmarkb8713]

I think Ed should buy that gun😉

[@wholeNwon]

Intended to be similar in appearance to a Parker Bros. from the USA.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Part parker repro Part Winchester 21 Part Winchester 23

[@wholeNwon]

@@tgsoutdoors Yes, except for the really bad glossy stock finish (bad for a Parker, at least).

[@ddoherty5956]

Was this shot at Grimsthorpe?

[@nicke6394]

As they say it’s not the gun, it’s the prick behind the stick 😂

[@tomhman6441]

What ever it is, if you don’t like it send the gun to me. I love any and all side by sides.Thank you

[@mattralphwright]

This is my “boom stick!”

[@El-Burrito]

I would much rather use the sxs

[@peterparsons7141]

I really don’t care for side by sides. The one shown is a beauty, and would fetch well over the price you’ve listed. In fact people tend to hold on to these guns and you just don’t see many of this quality for anywhere the price listed. In Canada, Many have 30” barrels, no ribs, and are just HEAVY.

[@tgsoutdoors]

That’s the beauty of gun auctions, it worth twice what I paid in a retail place. But it was lurking in a back corner of holts and nobody was confident enough to go for it clearly (other than me!)

[@antoinekhattar2134]

Hello Have a nice day Please we need informations about how much bar pressure can we maximum shoot in browning o/u shotguns. And Thank you for this beautiful channel 👍

[@johnwilkes7190]

Get him a Churchill xxv , bet he still hits everything😁which means then its a Baikal double🤣

[@icu1585]

Get a blondie browning sweet sixteen. Check it out

[@Mberry297]

“Morale raping” 😂

[@ShootingMatt1]

Movie quote: Now listen up you primitive screwheads. This is my Boomstick!

[@mikeproctor3664]

I have to ask, what's up with the red shoes now?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Was the only pair of size 13’s they had, so I thought why not!

[@ablegteschulin6155]

well. except the little mistake in the title: very enjoyable

[@clv603]

30k isn't an expensive gun. 30k is 10 expensive guns. Some people in this sport are so out of touch lol

[@stevegale2289]

were is it just a blank screen???

[@johnnyjoseph1389]

I would love to see this sort of thing but with a s*** gun theoretically made for Clays... Like a condor competition or some other current production cheap nasty sporting over under.

[@tgsoutdoors]

I’m Sure that can be arranged

[@keithmills7298]

I would of liked a better description of the guns you were shooting.

[@harrypoulton2335]

It’s a boom stick

[@borisfargo1290]

I’d buy that gun for £210

[@r.parker1933]

"This is my BOOMSTICK!" Shop smart. Shop S Mart.

[@db8359]

Would be interesting to see what Ed could do with a classic, good quality live pigeon gun. I suspect he’d do very well with it…..

[@AM-sm8hq]

Hail to the king baby

[@Omnihil777]

I wonder what choke you would use to defeat an army of undead skeletons?!

[@keithdraper7826]

I don’t like the black action.. it’s like coloring a diamond with a sharpie

[@ercanatak6197]

Avı vurduran pahalı veya ucuz bir tüfek değil,kendinize göre ayarlanmış bir dipciktir

[@seanatkins5519]

put thew right adress on it and u will hit it....

[@sportflyer]

Haven’t you got the title the wrong way around?

[@ooyginyardel4835]

Blimey!