Explaining Digimon: Agumon BOND OF COURAGE/BRAVERY [Digimon Conversation #59]

Let us discuss the recently added Agumon Bond of Courage/Bravery (or Agumon Yuki no Kizuna). Truly a wonderful addition (even if many had a few things to say). What are your opinions?
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[@WyvernDukemon]

Im really happy my comments helped, I have honestly tried to dissect the form and rewatched the final battle of the movie so many times to craft my headcanon so Im glad it was helpful

[@riicky83]

When you mentioned Meiko Mochizuki Digivice being used to turn Omnimon to its merciful mode despite not being partnered to any of the component Digimon. This would've been when Magndramon had her new tail that was from the result of being fused together with Meicrackmon. So in essence, she had a connection.

[@MarcusRalphson]

thats just a minor design difference and youd gone fully down the conspiracy theory lane

[@genaropayro9621]

I think Agumon bond of Courage and Gabumon bond of Friendship forms are as powerful as Omegamon, or at least close to him, but they attacked at once, and also had a buff from their partners. It’s true, the fusion is meant to be stronger, but Omegamon is Wargreymon and Metalgarurumons fusion, not these new forms. Most likely, if Agumon and Gabumon Bond fuse, the result would be Omegamon Merciful Mode, who is more powerful. Think of Agumon and Gabumon Bond forms as Kaisergreymon and Magnagarurumon, above Mega, just as Omegamon Merciful Mode is at Susanoomon Level.

[@Justic_]

Honestly, I don't dislike the bond-forms, really, but there are just a few things about them that make me feel like they fall short of what they could've been. Most of all, even more so than the ones from Tamers, Agumon Bond of Courage and Gabumon Bond of Friendship just feel like they should've been Tamer-digivolutions, fusions with Tai and Matt, instead of just coming about somehow with the old digivice for no disclosed reason. Aside from that, I don't even mind it primarily looking like a Greymon too much considering how deeply entwined with the Greymon-species Agumon is, to the point where the Greymon-family is Agumons primary evolution-line and most Greymons evolve from an Agumon, the complete lack of Agumon-features is still kind of a problem, imo, although tbf Agumon doesn't have many features that stand out compared to Gabumon, although Gabumons features also feel a bit left out in its bond-form compared to its Garurumon-aspects. In the end, I feel like you might be able to assume that they went with these names in order to stay in line with the lore that WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon are supposedly the "ultimate, final forms" of their families. In general, part of my problem with them is probably more so tied the movies premise and narrative not fitting into Adventures lore, like, I don't think there's anything implying that Digimon in the world of Adventure are tied to the "potential of human children", and feels like a superficial look at how 02 introduced that there were many more children with Digimon (forgetting that at the end, we also had at least one adult with a partner, and of course the ending-scene itself showing all of them as adults with their partners), just to shoehorn a narrative that they knew would resonate well with the generation that grew up with Adventure.

[@seich-of-lacan-getter514]

I liked the name, it's clearly agumon taking a humanoid form while taking traits from all its evolutions

[@DonnyRoy91]

I love the bond designs. They are badass. I just wished they were biomerge instead, that’s my head canon lol tai and Matt merged with them

[@digirally97]

Great. Next explain about Gabumon Bond of Friendship

[@HelenaSan425]

Agumon bond of courage looks a stand from Jojo's bizarre adventure

[@BrickChick]

StarPlatmon

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

You're a stand. Your name is Raging Momma Bear

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

You gain herculean strenght to protect your stand user when their in danger...

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Like a momma bear rotecting her child...

[@jac0736]

I saw it as a culmination of all the forms that Agumon went through

[@marlcoore]

These videos help my bond with Digimon stay alive while I don't have the time to watch the series any longer. Thank you so much for all that you do

[@ashiel035]

They did change the overall love for just 2 digimon in the Digimon Adventure 2020 by giving every partner digimon their Mega Evolution something we never got from the original series.

[@leonryuko970]

It's really awesome to see a channel like this, that delves so deep into the lore of Digimon. I can only name a few channels that actively do Digimon content, such as this channel, Karn EX, Zerodex, Digimon central and a few more. It's a shame really, since Digimon is quite and expansive series. Thank you for the great content. Also, I was wondering if you could do a video on Jupitermon or Plutomon.

[@seanread5556]

for me personally, i like the concept of digimon achieving a higher state thanks to their bond with their partner. at its core, the entire digidestined concept follows these rules, with the 'bond forms' just taking this idea to its extreme. unfortunately, i REALLY dont like either of the forms appearance wise. Also, though this is only tangentially related, im not a fan of the whole idea of digidestined losing their status as soon as they become adults. i feel like this spits in the face of the very spirit of the franchise. Joe even has a character arc in Tri that specifically struggles with this concept, but overcomes it. but according to Kizuna, adults can't maintain a bond with their partner digimon because they have to go do adult things now? not only have we seen adult tamers in the franchise before, making this a plot-hole, but we've also seen adults who lost their partners and mourn the loss. thats the entire plot of Kizuna to begin with! so obviously, adults CAN still have a love for their partners WELL past some arbitrary age limit. on top of that, this idea implies that rather then partners, digimon are merely toys and so its natural for the human children to grow out of it and abandon their childish toys. so, what is Kizuna trying to tell us? are digimon beloved partners or childish toys? are adults able to hold on to the love they had as children, or are adults incapable of loving the things they love as children? On a meta stand-point, this movie puts out an AWFUL message that only kids can love Digimon and if you are an adult then the franchise isn't for you. i have no idea honestly why anyone in the team thought this age time limit concept was a good idea, but i personally hate it. Also, last point, they clearly borrowed a LOT of season 3's concepts for both Tri and Kizuna. can we PLEASE see a sequel to season 3, with the cast maybe 10 years in the future, all grown up and getting to reunite with their partners? the OG writer wanted to do that and i for one would love to see that

[@Justic_]

Not only have we seen adult tamers in this franchise, but even more specifically in the setting of Adventure, with Oikawas partner Pipimon still being around despite him being an adult at the time of 02. It also contradicts how the growth of the Digimon is directly related to the emotional growth of their partner, them "becoming an adult", now that I think about it, like, the Digimon grow alongside their partners, so why does the partners growing too much exactly mean they can't have a Digimon-partner anymore? Either way, that entire narrative is just incredibly shoehorned in because I assume they thought it would resonate well with a large part of the audience that has been following since the original, disregarding just how much it fits into the setting, but as you pointed out, it's somehow really counterproductive since the way they presented it they really did just say to their most loyal audience to... just move on from the franchise. Looking at all this, I'm really suprised how the movie has such high ratings, even with the Adventure-nostalgia and the great animation carrying it.

[@TheMegaultrachicken]

@@Justic_ The whole movie is just telling adults to move on from the franchise. That's it. Scumbag boomers telling longtime fans to "grow up" is insulting. You can have an adult digidestined as was shown at least twice in the franchise.

[@streeker007]

In my opinion, it would have been better if agumon bond of courage had been a biofusion of sorts between agumon and Tai and powered by the data of the children who were captured similar to how omnimon first appeared in the first digimon movie. Think of it like agumon burst mode but a form more related to the bond with agumon and its partner, Tai and the crest of courage only in this case, the spirit of Tai would be there vs Tai physically of agumon's shoulder.

[@maxcelestin2446]

I loved this video it changed my view point on the form also , agree with the others getting more loved. It’s ridiculous

[@madambutterfly1997]

Morphomon and Hudiemon. Please do a video on those two

[@NagaYamiyo]

HOLY!!! I was left stunned and breathless when I heard my name called out!!! I did not expect to see my comment in a video!!!! I will say, after this video I do hold less distaste for the forms. I do not outright hate it anymore, but I am still not a fan of the name or the design especially for Agumon. But I appreciate what the concept was going for in terms of being a Limit-Breaker, which is one of my favorite concepts in fiction. Personally I would like to see the other mons get such a form, BUT not used in anime or movie, but just in games. One final confession, I have not watched Kizuna... I bought the movie when the DvD was released (to support one of my favorite franchises) but it's still wrapped in plastic. Between the hatred I originally held for the Bond forms and the end contradicting with Adventure 02, I just haven't brought myself to watch it. I don't hate the forms anymore, but the ending still bugs me and I don't know if I'll watch it yet.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Hey, I dislike the ending too. But there are some concepts from the movie that I like, mainly the memory islands in Never World. And personally I'd have the golden ring countdown appear when a Digimon's partner passes away. It's a reference to 02's ending (the death of a major villain after the final battle).

[@emo565]

It’s possible that there planning to do what they did in tri by having two characters being the focus of each movie but there no way to know till more movies come out. Personally tho I really like the designs of the bonds forms and how they seem to be taking the best parts of of its prior evolutionary forms to make something completely new

[@minotaur_king1733]

I think It looks cool, it seem more people are mad about how the others didn’t get attention rather then the designs themselves.

[@uctuyenle4649]

in adventure 02, agumon got forced digivolved into skullgreymon and virus metalgreymon with ken's digivice

[@quietguyjosh4643]

using the dark ring and spiral as an override control ken was a genius hacker of digimon

[@uctuyenle4649]

@@quietguyjosh4643 in the story of 3 game (i don't remember which) Rio was able to digivolve digimons that aren't millenniumon, his true partner too

[@VGInterviews]

Technically none of the original 7 digimon reached their Rookie form naturally as it was also aided by the digivice even if they didnt show the complete animation they show the digivice react to their partners in their battle with Kuwagamon in episode 1, so by that logic it should actually be Koromom Bonds of Courage lol And also we later see the flashback with Gennai preparing the digieggs and digivices before Piedmon's attack, by then there already chosen, as just as egg, so each Digidestined is bonded to the whole line not just the default state Also also, don't really think that just because they evolve with a digivice they keep their Rookie personality, Gabumon is always calm and peacefull but all the Garurumons are very aggressive same for others like Patamon/Angemon

[@MadnessHEROReverend]

The exception being Kari's Nyaromon, which wandered off, became Salamon, then was caught by Myotismon and then became Gatomon.

[@VGInterviews]

@@MadnessHEROReverend .... Which is why I said original 7

[@MadnessHEROReverend]

@VGInterviews you are correct, I always forget about Gomamon and Joe.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

I just wish the armor or the gauntlet was grey like his helmet.

[@johnsoliz153]

Wtf this video is good how only 1300 views

[@rayhayes7701]

Knowing what I know that that kind of evolution is a bit of a risk no. I don't want to see the others go through that either. I cried when Agumon and Gabumon just disappeared like that and if I did see it with Tenomon or Piyomon or any of the others then that mental count down starts.

[@aaramchase3502]

Digimon frontier was the best 💪💪

[@stevenreyes7779]

I like the design and everything in the plot revolving around it but I just wish they played with a little more color with the armor, because he looks like he’s ass naked with gloves and boots

[@MientousGao]

Can you explain Shoutmon? I’m not 100% sure about how xross wars worked because I don’t have access to it yet.

[@maxhadanidea]

could you do a video on toyagumon? it's pretty neglected for an agumon form.

[@metazoxan2]

It's just a joke Digimon really. They never bothered to give it a formal champion form or anything. Which is a shame because a toy greymon would be funny. After that? IDK maybe he evolves from lego toys to magnetic toys and becomes MagneGreymon? As for mega maybe he's be like a detailed model? and Since Gundamn models in Japan are apparently called Gunpla .... maybe GunplaGreymon? he'd basically be like a wargreymon Gundam but obviously the toy kind and not a real mecha. Or alternately just make normal Agumon's line with toy slapped into it. But I prefer the idea of getting more creative with the toy evolution line.

[@maxhadanidea]

@@metazoxan2 i always thought of toyagumon as duplo and the greymon form would be more intricate with smaller blocks

[@Justic_]

I mean, at least ToyAgumon has like 2 alternate forms with BlackToyAgumon and ClearToyAgumon. Meanwhile SnowAgumon...

[@madambutterfly1997]

Don't use the Uncle Ben speech. The person who says it is usually Marked for Death. Especially in superhero movies.

[@madambutterfly1997]

Kizuna Greymon sounds so much cooler

[@quietguyjosh4643]

i liked Last Greymon and Final Garurumon for the names

[@PKAlt]

Can you do bond of friendship please?

[@dustinkanzlemar2237]

So one thing I've always wondered. Salamon naturally evolved into Gatomon. But we do see instances where Gatomon dedigivoles into Salamon. If Digimon don't revert after natural digivolution... why does Gatomon sometimes go back to Salamon?

[@metazoxan2]

Same reason other Digimon revert to child forms on a few occasions. An extreme loss of power or some type of supression that weaken a digimon enough to push it below natural digivolution. Generally this is temporary and returning a digimon to full health or getting rid or the supression will cause them to revert to their default state.

[@lorddarthkairos01]

For me it's an Interrupted or Half Way to a New Bio-Merge/ Matrix Evolution with Tai and Agumon

[@Hideurgirlfrmme]

Can you explain the digital world 🌍 please I don’t get how In every season it changes

[@laughingmask3118]

I hate Last Evolution. Intentional or not, it made this weird comparison between people who like Digimon as an adult versus people who stopped liking it after they grew up as "the psycho with Peter Pan Syndrome" and "the sane person who stops watching cartoons because they grew up". My dad has liked Spider-Man since he was 9 years old but Spider-Man has never interfered with his ability to be an adult. Hell, some of my best memories are both of my parents sitting down and watching cartoons with us kids the rare times my dad had a day off from work! Last Evolution Kizuna, for me, was very bittersweet not because of the sadness involved but because of how ham-fisted and unrealistic the apparent message felt even if it wasn't what they were actually trying to say. I mean, we already know that the Digimon don't disappear forever because we have the epilogue from 02! Once I realize what the plot was, I found myself finding it hard to get invested in the rest of the film because I already knew that Agumon and Gabumon weren't going to disappear forever. That's what Digimon Adventure Tri did well. They introduced all new characters that we could fear for, Meiko, Meiccoomon, Nishijima, Himekawa, and the ending was sad because they explained that Meiccoomon couldn't reincarnate because of how she died. And then Last Evolution decided to completely contradict that by having Child Meiko and Meiccoomon Frozen in time in Never World anyway! That's plot inconsistency, as is Evil Gennai somehow being good now and not explaining it. The movie absolutely had its merits, but the demerits far outweigh them.

[@laughingmask3118]

Gennai turning evil and then good again in general wasn't properly explained but they at least explained how he turned evil, how did he turn good again??

[@detroitgamer006]

Im gonna get a lot of hate but i like Agumon Bond of Courage. Yes its more humanoid but i still like it

[@justinsgame4925]

But it was originally called Neverland in the Japanese version Neverworld is the dub name

[@quietguyjosh4643]

it's not the same neverland it's a digital space she made and named

[@DrawciaGleam02]

@@quietguyjosh4643 Yeah, but it's still likely a reference to the Neverland from Peter Pan. I'd love to see the viewpoint of someone within a memory island!

[@slobodandesic6910]

I mean the story of this movie is about taichi agumon yamato and gabumon

[@renmartinez1852]

If you're going off the movie then the movie explains that her and her Digimon didn't become separated due to her growing up her Digimon died protecting her and the other Digi distance of that time to stop some digital disaster in their world but I may be wrong 🤔🙄

[@Alexzander1989]

I gotta say I’m not really a fan of either of the bond forms, especially Agumon’s. Though I will say that Gabumon’s bond form is better in my opinion. That said however I have to say Gabumon Bond of Friendship looks less like a Gabumon evolution and more like an alternate final evolution to Wolfmon/Lobomon. Like change the color scheme to better match with Garummon or Ancient Garurumon, and I think you got a more ranged combat focused alternate to Beowulfmon. 🤔

[@dayvonlouis5187]

My only dislike of the current existing bond forms is how yet again it’s just Agumon and Gabumon getting another evolution yes I get there are story reasoning as to why it happens in the movie but every other partner Digidestined Digimon got shafted yet again not just the original kids but even the 02 kids got nothing no concept art no announcements in games or the card game for hypothetical bond forms nothing at all.

[@juliopinedo9402]

Wait... then isn't bravery more apt for tai?

[@Leonardovideogoes]

O verdadeiro problema da aparência é a falta de paleta de cores a mais

[@DesertHeroWilliam]

Are you in touch with the creators? Tell them it's time to market the series to adults. It has so much more potential that gets lost as a kids show.

[@0predaking0]

For me, those new evolution are a half way to the Matrix/Biomerge evolution. The Digi-vice they use were not programed to sustain such evolution that's why we could not see the New Digimon

[@johnsoliz153]

All Appmon are digimon. The video says they're not digimon but appmon,, but I think they all are appmon.

[@darkness-qt9dx]

So humans are op. Got it

[@eclipsesoluna3453]

love the design, hate the name same goes for the other one

[@rubengoncalves293]

Aren’t data attribute digimon weak to virus, virus weak to vaccine and vaccine weak to data.

[@andresmarrero8666]

Supposedly but it never comes up so that interaction practically doesn't exist.

[@kirbylover2.038]

Charmander VS Agumon Charmeleon VS Greymon Charizard VS MetalGreymon Mega Charizard X VS WarGreymon Gigantamax Charizard VS Agumon, Bond Of Courage

[@andresmarrero8666]

I really do not like the bond forms. From their design, to their unnecessary and inefficient features, to how bio merge or just Omnimon would have been better for the story's message, I just do not like these forms and am content of just acknowledging these forms exist and leave it at that. That is probably obvious from my comments. However this time I was much more vicious than what is acceptable. For that I am sorry.

[@joyconmoy]

Sir, I feel alike. I could defend their features into acceptance, but at heart... those forms feel odd.

[@EmpereurTom]

I prefer Gabumon BoF over MetalGarurumon. MetalGarurumon always seemed weaker than Wargreymon to me, while his Bond Form help him stand as Agumon’s equal.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@EmpereurTom good for you. I don't and that's fine.

[@EmpereurTom]

@@andresmarrero8666 My point still stand, though.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@EmpereurTom I repeat. That is fine. Not quite sure what point you are trying to make out of something so subjective.