explaining that one thing that's confusing everyone about Dagan Gera in Star Wars: Jedi Survivor

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MrHulthen

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This moment with Dagan Gera in Star Wars Jedi Survivor made lots of people confused. Let me explain it for you.
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@MrHulthen
@MrHulthen Жыл бұрын
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@pensinseo7745
@pensinseo7745 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know how Dagan was making a deal with the raiders while in the fish tank for the past 200 years?
@ShadowLazer72
@ShadowLazer72 Жыл бұрын
@@pensinseo7745 he wasn't actively making the deal. Rayvis's allegiance was forged while Dagan was still roaming around and Rayvis's species, Gen'Dai, live much longer than humans. Rayvis knew Dagan would return and built up his army for when the time was right.
@pensinseo7745
@pensinseo7745 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowLazer72 thank you I appreciate your response. That actually makes sense.
@echoreus
@echoreus Жыл бұрын
Why is Dagan so obsessed with Tanalorr? I get it for Cal and Bode but, Dagan? There is no reason to hide away on that planet. It's literally the peak of the jedi?
@TheLeeBonner
@TheLeeBonner Жыл бұрын
@Lazerr Also if you listen to Rayvis before his final fight with Cal. He explains Dagan earned his loyalty by defeating him in combat 200 years ago. In the scenes where Cal flashes back and witnesses Dagan and Santari discussing Tanalor you see at the end the ships appearing and coming for Tanalorr. This is Rayvis and those he commands. Dagan defeats him in one on one combat presumably and earns his loyalty. However the Jedi refuse to help Dagan on Tanalor and he and his new ally Rayvis turn the attack onto the Jedi killing a good number before are both imprisoned. Dagan in his tank and Rayvis somewhere else. He mentions to Cal the Jedi dishonoured him after they defeated him and left him to rot rather than give him a warriors death. He says that he was freed after the downfall of the Jedi order and then came to Koboh if he wasn’t already there looking for Dagan. The Bedlam Raiders were already operating here and Rayvis challenged their commander resulting in a sort of Raiders civil war that he won and then continued to search for Dagan for a couple of years and then one day bumps into Cal Kestis outside the Saloon…
@TomJay1987
@TomJay1987 Жыл бұрын
People really thought he grew his arm back? I thought it was pretty obvious it was just a phantom limb projected through the force. It's amazing how people are so ready to over think something in Star Wars that has a pretty simple answer.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
So true. I’ve been really surprised how many really thought that. Even after the fight how Cal pretty much explains it was all a force illusion.
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 Жыл бұрын
I mean also let be honest… YTERS have to make content for videos so. Plus Vader and Luke have been using the force with no limbs. And Kreia used telekinesis on lightsabers when I was a kid when I first discovered KOTOR 2.
@veryangry8866
@veryangry8866 Жыл бұрын
Exactly his move set doesn’t even change with the arm showing the same thing was happening during the second fight
@cflasch75
@cflasch75 Жыл бұрын
Same it’s pretty obvious that’s what that was
@Mourtzouphlos240
@Mourtzouphlos240 Жыл бұрын
The number of people who watch Star Wars once and pay attention to nothing is incredible.
@andrew4233th
@andrew4233th Жыл бұрын
Using the force in place of/to represent a phantom limb… easily one of the coolest force ideas we’ve seen in recent Star Wars
@TheNiggler17
@TheNiggler17 Жыл бұрын
I personally thought just wielding the lightsaber using the force was cooler
@andrew4233th
@andrew4233th Жыл бұрын
@@TheNiggler17 pretty much the same thing here 😂
@hectorle3784
@hectorle3784 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s just a force allusion
@andrew4233th
@andrew4233th Жыл бұрын
@@hectorle3784 well yeah, but he’s using the force as if there was a limb there, IE a phantom limb, phantom meaning not there but still present in a way
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 Жыл бұрын
I think it was an elegant way to portray the stupid proposition of just dueling with force-levitated lightsabers now all I can think of is Jack Black as Greivous
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin Жыл бұрын
It happens in Fallen Order as well, when Cal cuts off the ninth sisters hand she continues to use the force with that arm and lifts her lightsaber. You don't need to be able ti physically do something to wield the force.
@He-Man00
@He-Man00 Жыл бұрын
Case in point: Vader. He does it all the time.
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin Жыл бұрын
@@He-Man00 exactly! And Luke as well 🤣
@stevenlanzarotta9576
@stevenlanzarotta9576 Жыл бұрын
@@He-Man00 He did it as Anakin in the 2D Clone Wars series, too. This isn't a new thing, and I don't get why people are treating it like it is.
@TheCursedCat1927
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenlanzarotta9576 Because a lot of people that do it, either didn't pay attention when watching the Movies, or have literally no idea about the Universe and just jumped in with the "hey this game looks cool."
@BT-ob7ve
@BT-ob7ve Жыл бұрын
@@stevenlanzarotta9576 tbh, I didn't like that Gera's force arm was too fancy/flashy. I wanted his saber to simply levitate, like a darth vader would do if he didn't have any arms.
@Gulmanzo66
@Gulmanzo66 Жыл бұрын
I assumed it was just a force hallucination. At least, that's what made the most sense to me
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 Жыл бұрын
It was the game even stated that it was multiple times.
@CojaGamez
@CojaGamez Жыл бұрын
Apparently Dagan is a master of illusions according to his tactical guide
@Elite-Y-
@Elite-Y- Жыл бұрын
@@CojaGamez and when it comes to Bode on Jedha i thought it was Dagen and he´ll be the end boss
@gmr9701
@gmr9701 Жыл бұрын
But that second lightsaber actually deals damage, so no, not really an hallucination, but sheer force power making it possible to wield that second blade
@CojaGamez
@CojaGamez Жыл бұрын
@@gmr9701 He always had the second lightsaber, and used the force to weild it. The actual appearance of the arm is a hallucination tho
@JaigEyesStudios
@JaigEyesStudios Жыл бұрын
It's not like Dagan's force power is breaking any established lore, and from my observation, he is merely using telekinesis to move his second lightsaber. Furthermore, we've seen this similar force power before, such as Kreia (Darth Traya) from Knights of the old Republic II: The Sith Lords, who was skilled at telekinetic lightsaber combat by controlling them with her mind. Therefore it's most definitely within an already established lore of the force power.
@TheCursedCat1927
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
Hell, we've literally seen this being used in Canon Comics and Novels...
@Dazzle_Novak_
@Dazzle_Novak_ Жыл бұрын
Sometimes fandom getting confused about such small things really makes me question a lot of things about misinterpretations in Star Wars lore. Also Vader kinda always uses phantom force lims, for choke, push, pull, etc since, duh, he has no actual limbs. Force can manifest as long as you can, lets just say believe it, and concentrate yourself enough. Of course you can't just "believe" and pull a star destroyer from orbit, but as long as you can believe of you wielding with a missing arm - you will.
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin Жыл бұрын
The fandom misinterprets a lot. For example, anytime someone starts going on about power levels they're misinterpreting the lore.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
@@dustinakadustinn this one, well actually on a lot of things, I blame it on this age of short attention spans. It’s literally explained right after the fight ends, but because ppl’s attention spans are so short, they miss key things like Cal explaining it was all an illusion.
@johnyshadow
@johnyshadow Жыл бұрын
"Of course you can't just "believe" and pull a star destroyer from orbit..." Doesn´t Starkiller literally do that in Force Unleashed? I mean, the games aren´t canon, buuut... :D
@TheCursedCat1927
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
@@johnyshadow He does. But because the Games do break the Canon Continuity in major ways, a lot of people agree that it essentially isn't possible to do.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity Жыл бұрын
@@Coonazz791 I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of people who have completed the story also skipped all the cinematics. It's a very common behaviour.
@gibster9624
@gibster9624 Жыл бұрын
And being able to use the force with a limb that isn't there isn't exactly unheard of after all. We just usually only see it when they gain a robotic arm so we never really think about it too much.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
Well, this isn’t the first time we’ve seen characters use the force to control multiple lightsabers. Like Darth Traya from KotOR. She used 3 sabers all controlled with the force.
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 Жыл бұрын
None of this stuff is new, no offense but when people see this stuff they flip out like it hasn’t been around. Vader and Luke have been using the force with missing limbs lmao.
@ConnorLonergan
@ConnorLonergan Жыл бұрын
I don't even know how having a Force limb would be lore-breaking; I mean, even in the Legends material, the Force can be used to perform incredible feats (and in canon, at least there is Time Travel with the Force.)
@ababafgatg
@ababafgatg Жыл бұрын
This is one of those times when spelling makes a huge difference lol
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
@@ababafgatghahaha
@5lim.0
@5lim.0 Жыл бұрын
Legends also has Luke’s evil clone Luuke, so we don’t need to take everything they do as logical
@koenigkorczak
@koenigkorczak Жыл бұрын
was that not clear from the fact that the arm was blue and translucent?
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 Жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@Pandaemoni
@Pandaemoni Жыл бұрын
While the force use to double for his lost arm is fine, I would have thought that, with his droid army, they'd give him a droid arm. He must have had some droid engineer in his gang and prosthetics were well known at that time.
@giraffenuzZ
@giraffenuzZ Жыл бұрын
i feel like he was more worried about getting back to tanalor rather than assembling another arm.
@stevenle9960
@stevenle9960 Жыл бұрын
maybe he was too proud to taint himself with a cybernetic arm
@TheCursedCat1927
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
@@gumbowallace That actually makes sense a lot. Even their Temples were fully operated by the Force or mechanisms powered by its Aspects.
@Luey_Luey
@Luey_Luey Жыл бұрын
that's a good point that the arm is just part of the hallucination. I caught on quickly that the arm was just the force but then remembered thinking "well if its just the force then its not any different from when he was levitating the saber in the last fight"
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 Жыл бұрын
I think the best way to explain it is that from the second fight with Dagan, he actually has his force "arm" since it was strange that he could effectively dualwield a double lightsaber already. So I theorised that Cal throughout the game as he gains and improves his force abilities, including dabbling in the dark side allowed him to sort of open his "third eye" if you will from which he could see what Dagan sees. This is a pretty strong theory, in my opinion, because at the end of the fight, Cal was able to use the force for the first time to create an illusion in order to deceive Dagan. I think the ability to create illusions ties heavily into the dark side, considering Dagan already switched to the dark side and got powerful very early.
@tvrkm6897
@tvrkm6897 Жыл бұрын
I understood the arm was a force projection, but missed the details. Also, this video made me realize the second saber itself was also an illusion.
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 Жыл бұрын
@TVRKM Wait, really? How can the second safer be a projection?
@tvrkm6897
@tvrkm6897 Жыл бұрын
@YEY0806 I guess it could be real, but his Saber goes through every configuration except having a side blaster. And Cal leaves a single Saber on his chest when he dies. I'd have to check again, but I'm not sure it had a second emitter then.
@H4WKB13
@H4WKB13 Жыл бұрын
@@tvrkm6897 No the second blade is very much real. Dagan just copied Cal's design of a double sided blade that can be split apart.
@Jazz41173
@Jazz41173 Жыл бұрын
Man, with all the characters losing limbs in Star Wars. The power to grow them back would have been...Handy. Anyone? No? I'll show myself out. 🤓
@MrHulthen
@MrHulthen Жыл бұрын
Pffffff
@adamH.1
@adamH.1 Жыл бұрын
Rayvis: Let me introduce myself
@n0body550
@n0body550 Жыл бұрын
@@adamH.1 Except his isn’t because he has the force
@kenneth69
@kenneth69 Жыл бұрын
I certainly didn't think it was a physical arm. If Luke can project himself across the galaxy a Jedi might be able to exhibit a Force Arm. I loved how Cal's rare ability to sense echoes slowly evolved in Survivor. Sometimes rather than just a sense/hearing, we start to see him able to generate a virtual [Force] scene. When he finally got what Dagan was doing and used it to create a vision of Dagan's lover, I knew he had achieved a breakthrough.
@jordanmancini
@jordanmancini Жыл бұрын
There's also been many examples in Legends of jedi and sith using the force to wield multiple lightsabers telekinetically and a few names have actually built their entire combat style off of the use of force telekinesis
@nickparks9542
@nickparks9542 Жыл бұрын
We also see something done like this by the Ninth Sister when Cal cut her hand off during their duel on Kashyyyk back in Fallen Order. She was able to lift her lightsaber up with her stump hand.
@calebburgess2244
@calebburgess2244 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t feel confused. In the moment it seemed super obvious that he could use the force so proficiently that it was as if he had both arms
@lion4611
@lion4611 Жыл бұрын
And dagan gera eyes glow purple like in the old republic era when a ancient Sith Lord or fallen Jedi or emperor vitiate has glowing purple eyes does it mean they are in full power of the darkness or they are the way full dark side without conflict
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 Жыл бұрын
When was his eyes purple ? I think I missed that.
@lion4611
@lion4611 Жыл бұрын
When his force ghost arm appears the first time when he looked at call while blocking bode blaster attacks when he was looking at both of them
@lion4611
@lion4611 Жыл бұрын
And when he blocks bode blaster bolts he force pull bode and choked him while giving him look into my glowing purple eyes into his and throwing him away
@leahwyman6924
@leahwyman6924 Жыл бұрын
Be being a huge star Wars buff honestly I interpret the Force as your imagination and your mental state. Which in the game and Luke in the empire strikes back how Luke couldn't see himself pulling the x wing out of the the swampy lake. It make sense because the Force can project things and and show us as we think of them. To quote Obi-Wan, "Your eyes can't see if you don't trust them" while Luke has the helmet on while training on the millennium falcon
@sneakdza
@sneakdza Жыл бұрын
Love the twist of the end of the game but I wish they would’ve done more with this character
@bbott137
@bbott137 Жыл бұрын
Didnt Anakin do this in the clone wars? There was even a cave painting prophecy about a man with an 'invisible hand' who would kill a mythical beast?
@PhilletPhish
@PhilletPhish Жыл бұрын
I always thought that it was obvious that he was just using a force projection of his arm, but the more yknow
@leafinit6290
@leafinit6290 Жыл бұрын
i just assumed it was the visual representation of the force he was using to throw around the other saber but this makes more sense lol
@RandomBakedCake
@RandomBakedCake Жыл бұрын
You don't need arms to use the force. Luke does it on Dagobah while doing a handstand, Vader force chokes a dude without moving his arms in ESB, he does it somewhat against Luke in ESB, then goes to make is lightsaber more the conduit instead). Also if Luke can project his entire body across the galaxy using the Force, I'd say Dagan can Force Project an Arm.
@tvrkm6897
@tvrkm6897 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that would mean accepting Last Jedi or even *shudders, Rise of Skywalker canon.
@RandomBakedCake
@RandomBakedCake Жыл бұрын
@@tvrkm6897 Whether you like them or not doesn't stop them from being canon. Besides Vader does this very thing in a force vision essentially as well in a comic. It was a thing in Legends as well in certain stories. It's not like its new.
@guyperson7487
@guyperson7487 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was very obvious his arm was just a representation or illusion of the force wielding the lightsaber
@ressshadow5342
@ressshadow5342 Жыл бұрын
This game is absolutely beautiful! Am going to do a playthrough +. Also I haven't been around a while and now am gonna stick around a lot more! Looking forward for any Mass effect news also 😊
@randommemeaddict249
@randommemeaddict249 Жыл бұрын
Let us also remember that Dagan is not the only one to control the Lightsaber. Darth Treya also weilded 3 purple sabers soley with the Force.
@darkspark5854
@darkspark5854 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Daren Gareth, lord of Transalor.
@SamBaca
@SamBaca Жыл бұрын
I always knew it was an arm made by The Force itself, but i never thought about being part of Dagan's illusion during the fight with him...
@0hvist
@0hvist Жыл бұрын
That's not the thing that really confuses us about Dagan Gera. _"What's his motivation for becoming enemies with Cal Kestis in the first place?"_ Think about it: Dagans' been on ice for the last thousand years. The Jedi from the High Republic Era that knew of him have been long dead, the standards and customs of the Order had likely evolved countless times; especially within the aftermath of The Clone Wars and Order 66, and he was freed by a Jedi Knight that was seeking out safety on Tanalorr for himself, his friends, and for whatever surviving Jedi are left. And here Dagan is; the technical highest-ranking member of the Order, the one who discovered Tanalorr and who wanted to build a Jedi Temple on that he could use to train the next generation of Jedi Knights. He had everything he was after and more; a chance to do away with the harmful traditions that held the Jedi back so many times and led to their downfall. All Dagan needed to do was agree to help bring Cal and his friends to Tanalorr, and he would have accomplished his goals and ambitions right then and there.
@musicbrush9231
@musicbrush9231 Жыл бұрын
How was this confusing? Seriously guys. Remember Krayah? The evil old hooded woman from KOTOR II? She wielded like three lightsabers at once using only the force and one hand. How is it hard to believe Dagan could wield a second saber using the same technique? Also, how did everyone thing he grew his arm back? It was blatantly obvious, even without Cal explaining it at the end, the arm wasn't real. I'm not a die-hard, study every bit of lore, both legends and canon fan, and even I could tell it was some force illusion.
@We3dCraftLP
@We3dCraftLP 7 ай бұрын
In my own Personal opinion. We have sawn force users Do Tricks without moving a muscle, mostly they do it becuase it help with focusing. And for dagan, He lost his arm just moments befor He was put in the bacta tank, if He was sleeping for most of the time, bis movement with his upper body just might be out of habbit because He is used to Do it with his right arm
@ShadowlessZen
@ShadowlessZen Жыл бұрын
Dagan might Lowkey be one of the best force users alive well not anymore but still. A Jedi back from the old republic who might of known revan who even knows
@Saphels
@Saphels Жыл бұрын
Vader, unable to use Force Lightning: You know, guys, fuck this.
@juancabardo21
@juancabardo21 2 ай бұрын
I like that Dagan’s special ability is using the Force to infiltrate people’s minds or to enhance his own mental image
@spyder5876
@spyder5876 9 ай бұрын
What I want to know is why the lightsaber is fuckin ORANGE. "No it's red, it's just the color satu--" It's literally orange, dude. I know what red and orange look like, they're different colors. His lightsaber is straight up orange.
@pootash2019
@pootash2019 Жыл бұрын
I.... can't imagine how anyone would be confused about this.
@anti-roxas850
@anti-roxas850 Жыл бұрын
Ummm..... I thought that was obvious. It was even explained in game. Hell, use your EYES. Who was asking this?!?!?😂
@Pricey_AU
@Pricey_AU Жыл бұрын
Yet another audience reaction that begs the question: “how did people not get this right away?”
@TheWesman45
@TheWesman45 Жыл бұрын
Nah, you can 100% use the force to regrow limbs or even bring people back from the dead. The "dawn of the Jedi" series goes into this sort of thing. It's not something Jedi of the current or high republic era could have done though. Since they are light side users and the original Jedi were balanced force users. Otherwise known as "grey" Jedi.
@davido.1233
@davido.1233 Жыл бұрын
I knew immediately that it was a force projection of his phantom hand. And for all of you guys screaming that we've never seen that before, I would point out that Luke used a force projection power to make himself look younger on Crait in his duel with Kylo Ren, as well as in the Legends game Kotor 2 when Kreia uses the force to manipulate three lightsabers in her final duel with the Jedi Exile.
@kevind3974
@kevind3974 Жыл бұрын
For those who do not know prity much he was using form 8 which it’ll know was legends. Prity much what form 8 is that it’s a form that focuses more on the force and it’s suplimental/straightening ability to make up or add to your already pre existing style. Aka it’s force throw but almost none stop. Think fully upgraded double bladed and duel blade lightsaber where you can move them around freely but constantly and in a cerler motion instead of a side to side. His ability with illusions just made it stand out even more as we could now see the usually invisible form (except the sword) in motion
@AndronyTrapatony
@AndronyTrapatony Жыл бұрын
How he lived in bacta tank for 200 years ? I don't remember this liquid could do that, it was just for healing wounds, not freezing you in time
@Dan__S
@Dan__S Жыл бұрын
This isn't the first time is been seen, either. Vader does a similar thing while he mediates in the force in the comics.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
Or Darth Traya in KotOR
@waterinmyotter6245
@waterinmyotter6245 Жыл бұрын
Wait. Did people actually think he grew his arm back? It’s clearly in “force ghost” colours.
@Re.Configured
@Re.Configured Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I interpreted it. We the audience see the limb because the game designers wanted us to see what was happening. Cal likely never even saw the limb the whole time. Or perhaps Dagan projected the illusion during the final confrontation and Cal did see the phantom limb. I’m just gonna stop thinking about it lol
@goofysmp
@goofysmp Жыл бұрын
Dude was wasted in the game. Him and Reyvis were set up to look so important and they got absolutely wrecked. I was gutted. Gera was put across as a massive threat during the High Republic era. Maybe not a Palpatine level but like a Grievous power level. Reyvis imo had the best voice actor although Bode being played but the actor who played Charles was a close second
@adamH.1
@adamH.1 Жыл бұрын
I mean Disney already started inventing their own dumb force abilities back in the sequel trilogy like force teleport or force heal, here it doesn't seem as game changing as the previous abilities, and it is reasonable because remember, he is no ordinary Jedi, he's from the era of High republic, which was peak Jedi order. Don't get why people are upset about this
@Ragnar_5522
@Ragnar_5522 Жыл бұрын
It astounds me that so many people, including Star Wars buffs, didn't catch on to this. 🤦‍♂️
@mahejo
@mahejo Жыл бұрын
It's great explanation on what we saw in the game. For me it's just; why does it need to be explained? It's rather obvious. Oh wait... the internet is a thing xD But again. Great job on explaining it.
@billymccormick2593
@billymccormick2593 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was common knowledge. Vader force chokes and he doesnt have real hands, he has prosthetics. For all intents and purposes, Dagan using the force to give himself a working phantom limb is the same as Vader or Luke using the force through their prosthetics.
@TheCrackheadAussie
@TheCrackheadAussie Жыл бұрын
All these confused fans need to get into the old republic era, Darth Traya is an obvious example of wielding sabers without hands, she wields 3 light sabers but is missing a hand. New fans please research some old republic era content.
@a1morrison290
@a1morrison290 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine Dagan vs Vader. High republic Jedi was incredibly powerful so imagine a dark side version
@Iainsane
@Iainsane 11 ай бұрын
I was half expecting (or hoping!) for Dagan (after coming to his senses), to join Cere and the Anchorites on Jedah as part of redemption type path.
@rohanhearn3796
@rohanhearn3796 Жыл бұрын
No shit his arm wasn’t really there! 🤦🏻‍♂️ ffs who was confused about this?
@Murph709
@Murph709 Жыл бұрын
Its just there to show the player that Dagan is swinging his other lightsaber with the force. He's such an adept duelist, he doesn't need an arm to use his lightsaber. like how cartoons "show" invisible people to the viewer by making them transparent.
@AsVowelAsY
@AsVowelAsY Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I'm certain the "phantom limb" is his brainchild, the result of his studies in becoming what most know as a "Force ghost." He did whatever it is a Jedi must do in order to preserve his spirit at precicely the correct time before or during dismemberment, allowing him to maintain the severed limb's signature in the Force as one with this own. So if theory serves, he should have the ability to manifest his severed arm in the same nature as one would appear as a "Force ghost," with the same etheral rules and properties.
@jtfbreedlove
@jtfbreedlove Жыл бұрын
There is also the obvious comparison to Hiemdall's bifrost arm in GOW ragnarok.
@Crimson03Ghost
@Crimson03Ghost 4 ай бұрын
His arm wasn't a hallucination. He has no reason to show that to other people. Yes, he was using a phantom limb technique to hold his lightsaber, but there was nothing visible there. Cal can see it because it is a force memory.
@DismayingHades6
@DismayingHades6 Жыл бұрын
He is 200 years old and obviously we know very little of the High Republic, and what powers they had and were lost to time
@emogirl89allup
@emogirl89allup Жыл бұрын
No No.. I want to know how Dagan remained alive and unaged for 200 yrs. Is it his alien peoples that live long?
@DavidSantos-ix1hu
@DavidSantos-ix1hu Ай бұрын
Remember,hes not only very experienced hes also from the golden age of the Republic so his proficiency in the force and usage is more advanced so its not out of the norm for him to use the force to replace his arm even if it is a illusion or foece construct.
@malakaispears6461
@malakaispears6461 Жыл бұрын
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. As master yoda says, force users exist on another plain of existence with their physical form merely being a conduit for them to experience the galaxy as most sentience do.
@SASU_Z
@SASU_Z Жыл бұрын
No way people were confused about this…
@KAPUTtherapy
@KAPUTtherapy Жыл бұрын
He’s using the force to make a fake arm. Also you don’t have to use hand signs for the force it’s like Harry Potter it just makes it easier. It wasn’t an illusion
@Kamigawa411
@Kamigawa411 Жыл бұрын
If people couldn't tell it was Illusion they obviously weren't paying attention, because he says it at the end of the fight.
@JimmyJacpots
@JimmyJacpots Жыл бұрын
hey I died on the last phase and my xp/force was on the roof when I came back? was this just a mistake by the devs you think?
@mitchy17
@mitchy17 Жыл бұрын
When I was playing, I instantly thought "force ghost arm".
@yucarin
@yucarin Жыл бұрын
Make his opponent block his saber and use another saber to stab from the back at the same time. He could win any dual without the phantom limb.
@reizak8966
@reizak8966 Жыл бұрын
This confused people? O.o I am confused by their confusion.
@equatiks97
@equatiks97 Жыл бұрын
when dagan made bode hallucinate wouldnt dagan sense the force within bode as there would probably be some instinctual resistance to being put in a force hallucination
@dylanaustin6112
@dylanaustin6112 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure in the 2d clone wars movies anakin gets his robotic arm broken and he uses the force with his nub but don’t quote me on that
@Bigc602
@Bigc602 Жыл бұрын
yes bru and people seem to forget that vader force chokes people while having two robotic arms
@Rayydude
@Rayydude Жыл бұрын
I love how we feel like this is common knowledge to the world. But we’re just the biggest star wars nerds out there 😂
@Radiatron18
@Radiatron18 Жыл бұрын
It’s not confusing at all look at darth treya she uses force lightning to control 3 purple light sabers
@Briand5590
@Briand5590 9 ай бұрын
It’s so fucking stupid that we can’t get his lightsaber without mods
@NagatoUzu
@NagatoUzu Жыл бұрын
How are people confused about using the force in a phantom limb?
@daedelus6602
@daedelus6602 Жыл бұрын
When I saw that I thought of Bao-Dur from KotOR II: Sith Lords.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
Well, his was actually mechanical. But it’s closer to how Darth Traya fought with her sabers.
@daedelus6602
@daedelus6602 Жыл бұрын
@@Coonazz791 hated that fight against Traya with 3 floating sabers.
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
@@daedelus6602 ikr lol
@TheOriginalFlowerdough
@TheOriginalFlowerdough Жыл бұрын
I want to know how the leader of some raiders knows a dude who has been in bacta for two hundred years and is somehow still alive and remembers the guy
@seriousb3449
@seriousb3449 Жыл бұрын
Reminded me of the comics where it shows darth vaders missing limbs being a different color.
@kadariuscoston386
@kadariuscoston386 Жыл бұрын
For some reason this didn’t show up in my playthrough when I got the final fight with him
@fele09
@fele09 Жыл бұрын
you must really be not paying attention to get this confusion. The game even tell you this was an illusion after the fight
@konytseng
@konytseng Жыл бұрын
Does that mean the whole later half of the fight on the ceiling was actually a fight in their minds and didn’t happen physically?
@Coonazz791
@Coonazz791 Жыл бұрын
The fight was actually happening, it was more of just the setting was the illusion.
@brendantailor3852
@brendantailor3852 Жыл бұрын
I honestly just thought it was a visual aid for smoothing out combat💀
@tonywright9906
@tonywright9906 Жыл бұрын
The technique is called telekinetic light saber combat,which can be applied to any form or style of lightsaber combat. The other techniques he was using were Force Illusion, and Dun Moch.
@HelplessTeno
@HelplessTeno Жыл бұрын
People have used the Force with their phantom limbs before in Star Wars media, including the Ninth Sister fight in Fallen Order. The issue with Dagan's arm is that we don't know if anyone in-game sees it. Everything regarding the Force and interactions with the Force in the Jedi games have been indicated to the player with a blue highlight. I'm sure Cal isn't seeing a pillar glow blue because he can use the Force on it. We don't know if this is an actual ability Dagan is using, or if it's just a representation of how he's using the Force, to show the player.
@iHaveOneArm
@iHaveOneArm Жыл бұрын
As somebody who doesn't have a full left arm this fight had me giddy lol
@Riqq44
@Riqq44 Жыл бұрын
The fact the people didn’t realize this is crazy y’all so slow 😂
@dylanporter8105
@dylanporter8105 Жыл бұрын
Ngl i thought i my game was bugged and his arm wasn't supposed to be missing at all
@CARBINEZzZzZ
@CARBINEZzZzZ Жыл бұрын
When I first got to the stage against Dagan where everything flipped upside down, I thought it was going to make you fight with controls inverted I was like oh fuck...
@JoeMartinez18
@JoeMartinez18 9 ай бұрын
"Beyond: Good and Evil flashback "
@neumo5005
@neumo5005 Жыл бұрын
Vader doesnt have real arms either and no one questions his force ability
@WorcestershireSauce4892
@WorcestershireSauce4892 Жыл бұрын
Ok but real question. Why is Dagan's skin stripey? Is it bacta? Is it just stretch marks? I have no idea
@RandomBakedCake
@RandomBakedCake Жыл бұрын
He's not "human", he's some other race.
@Out_the_matrix
@Out_the_matrix Жыл бұрын
Dagan literally woke up and chose violence
@salasdebaila
@salasdebaila Жыл бұрын
Anyone is else thought Dagan was a Jedi Temple Guard, because of his outfit?
@dimazfantasy5252
@dimazfantasy5252 4 ай бұрын
To me its more of his yellow lightsabers that i mistaken for Dagan to be a Jedi Temple Guard
@plutoniumrocks
@plutoniumrocks Жыл бұрын
NGL I didnt even notice he had his arm again during the second stage, I didnt even see it
@StefanWinchester
@StefanWinchester 7 ай бұрын
Its werid but so cool, unique, and creative that i dont care
@whooshwhoosh
@whooshwhoosh Жыл бұрын
Actually he's secretly JEK-14
@tio_john
@tio_john Жыл бұрын
i absolutely deslike hight republic but i liked it in this game
@5lim.0
@5lim.0 Жыл бұрын
This is why school is so important. That was hella obvious
@catching.rainbows
@catching.rainbows Жыл бұрын
I think its even cooler how he copies our lightsaber
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