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@yeetlol9367Ай бұрын
I see Rudyard I click Rudyard
@Celestial1000Ай бұрын
Pause
@Mbrace818Ай бұрын
"A lot of religions were called The Way." Suddenly that Ugandan Knuckles meme from 2018 makes a lot of sense 😂
@thefool1086Ай бұрын
"I know da way"
@Mr._AnderpsonАй бұрын
Mmm salad, muh bruddah.
@perniciousseizurehellio3438Ай бұрын
fun fact sharia translates to the way
@delfean2666Ай бұрын
I've grown to absolutely love this channel and history in general!
@dabtheprotegee8219Ай бұрын
Me too
@NikasInParis_777Ай бұрын
Every man loves history.
@Thomas-rv1wiАй бұрын
"Say it together class: Spit out that desert poison!" - Varg probably
@ravenheartwraithАй бұрын
as a Buddhist who follows the early texts, i've done quite a study of northern ancient India at the time of the Buddha, it truly was a very interesting time in history.
@random_shit_online6104Ай бұрын
Can we discuss? Im a learner of history as well and am an Indian Hindu.
@WhatifAltHistАй бұрын
Yes? Please say more
@ravenheartwraithАй бұрын
@@WhatifAltHist There are a lot of interesting things, like the first female monastic organizations (first jain then buddhist), the whole time period of the brahmins and the samanas who were essentially a whole sub-culture of people who checked out of society to try to find a way to awakening in the wilderness. Jains and Buddhists came from that culture. There is a good book by a preeminent Buddhist scholar A.K Warder called "Indian Buddhism", you can find it free as a pdf, the first half or so of the book starts from very ancient times to the time of the Buddha and the time after.
@NoID42069Ай бұрын
I'm declaring war on the axial age
@intelligencecube6752Ай бұрын
I’m just imagining some guy screaming at Socrates while he’s in a toga on his death bed 😂
@jorden9821Ай бұрын
Whatever, Nietzsche...
@yonathanrakau1783Ай бұрын
@@jorden9821God is dead
@Hawaiian_Shirt_guyАй бұрын
Jeremiah and the Jewish prophets are also considered a part of the axial age. The Judeo Christian tradition is a development of the axial age age as well.
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
Essentially, the gods before the Axial Age were just strong guys that would kill you if you didn't worship them. After it, they're the good guys that want to help you reach immortality by being a good person. Before the Axial Age you were coerced to believe them through force and fear. After it, you wanted to
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
31:16 the Greeks called these patterns Ideas, which means visions. This is where the English words idea and ideal come from, an ideal is an immutable pattern that exists in a parallel reality, and all related worldly forms are copies of that ideal
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
28:42 there's this interesting story about one of the students of Pythagoras who said that maybe there are some numbers that can't be perfectly represented by a fraction (today we call those irrational numbers, the student was right) but Pythagoras had said that all numbers can be perfectly represented by a fraction so his students believed that dogmatically as a religious truth. So either Pythagoras himself or another student of his straight up murdered the other dude for blasphemy against their teachings
@I-am-ShambalaАй бұрын
10 Interconnected Principles of the coming Axial Age 1. Be Authentic and honest about yourself (include your blessing as well as your warts and all) 2. Earth Life Is A School To Learn And Exercise Spiritual Principles in a very challenging environment (Earth School) and not for judgement 3. Love Everyone - Be Caring, Kind, Respectful and Forgiving towards Everyone Unconditionally including yourself and ALL Others 4. Find And Follow Your Divine Intuition or Inner Voice which blossoms from Joy and Love 5. Use Technological Advances Responsibly so that it is uplifting and fosters constructive development 6. Release Prejudice - Release all anger, fear, scorn and pain against any and all "other" entities you encounter in Earth School 7. The Power To Manifest is controlled by our thoughts and can create an environment and life full of gratitude, abundance and health (while we adhere to the 10 Principles) 8. Avoid Negative Influences and instead seek out Constructive influences 9. Everything (including divine or sub-optimal or selfish or "evil" choices) works together to provide free agency opportunities to grow in Earth School 10. We Are All One - How each of us chooses to act towards ourselves and the rest of us impacts (reflects back to) us - in heaven and earth there is only us or we and no "others" or them
@slappy8941Ай бұрын
lol okay bro 😂😂😂
@MLK3forEverАй бұрын
@@slappy8941 check out the Near Death Experience of Vinney Tolman - that is is origin of these 10 principles
@legtendgav556Ай бұрын
@@slappy8941 Have some faith, they may be studying the teachings of Teob6799 the Wise for hundreds of years
@kkvv3699Ай бұрын
sounds woke af
@IamShambalaАй бұрын
@@kkvv3699 @kkvv3699 FYI - Source is an NDE by Vinney Tolman. Who is to say it is not accurate?
@yanx4797Ай бұрын
9:43 Hmm, I didn't expect the Persian empire to look like that.
@Captaincapafew14Ай бұрын
@TheMightyWalk how about you expand on that instead of saying its wrong trust me bro
@thegunslinger8806Ай бұрын
Look at that I made it early again, I can't wait for the "explaining English civ" after tonight's horrendous election results.
@MaytrxАй бұрын
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word." - Operation: Knightfall "Knightfall" - Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)
@bubble-wu6fiАй бұрын
Never stop! Don't let your dream be dreams!
@MaytrxАй бұрын
@@bubble-wu6fi I'd like Rudyard to live stream a play through of the game. It might take over 3 hours to play every mission but of course it need not be all in one go. You hear that Rudyard!? Would you kindly live stream your play through of Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)?
@QuizmasterLawАй бұрын
"Nukes Jets & Chips: How Global Enlightenments Happen".
@patrickjanecke5894Ай бұрын
String Theory IS a religion - one wholly predicated upon mathematics, but repeatedly disproven whenever tested.
@mowgli5837Ай бұрын
The fact that you can mathematically prove 1=2, is also the reason why string theory exists 😂.
@victorallwise3520Ай бұрын
13:30 "If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism" - Albert Einstein. Note that Buddha taught essentially the same social ethic as Jesus, without the metaphysics of Christianity.
@slappy8941Ай бұрын
I'm fairly certain that Buddhism had an indirect influence on the moral attitudes that eventually became Christianity, considering that it was a mature philosophy long before.
@aasifazimabadi786Ай бұрын
EPILOGUE: This video was uploaded on July 4th, 2024, but it seems to have been recorded prior to June 27th (or at least in the daytime that Thursday) based on the initial conversation on the debate between Professor Lynch and Mr. Torenberg. President Biden's extremely poor performance in the aforementioned became the defining excuse for why the Democrats shoved him aside for another sick joke, his vice president, "Heels Up" Harris, last Sunday, July 21st.
@russellcook392216 күн бұрын
Gore Vidal's novel "Creation" is an enjoyable intro to the Axial Age. One of my favourite novels.
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
8:00-9:00 I think this topic about irreligion and agnosticism deserves a video of its own, it would be very interesting to see the reasons why it rises and what it causes to society
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
35:22 I remember one of your older videos where you called Plato an idiot and only praised Aristotle, it's an interesting change of opinion
@ArchitectStrangeАй бұрын
Been waiting to hear about this subject for a long time.
@Scott-if3ceАй бұрын
It's interesting that you mentioned it, I eventually became religious (I practice a polytheist religion) after being born into a non-religious household, flipped-flopped between agnostic/atheism, and studied in hardcore STEM for over 10 years. Like I'm doing a PhD in a STEM field right now. And I think science can co-exist with religion, as long as you don't believe in mythic literalism and make some other compromises which is something I think Abrahamic religions struggle with. Also people misunderstand what science is, it's not a belief system, it's just a list of simple steps to systematically study things. That's it. So you can use it to study the physical side of the universe, while religion is for the spiritual side of the universe.
@Thomas-rv1wiАй бұрын
I think the reason people compare science to a religion are midwits. They don't have the brain power to understand it so they treat it like a belief system instead.
@Mr._AnderpsonАй бұрын
I often recall Carl Sagan's warning in 'The Demon-Haunted World' about the impending danger of a time when people's lives are dominated by science & technology yet those people know next to nothing about either.
@Scott-if3ceАй бұрын
@@Mr._Anderpson Yeah, I think we're living in a time where people are unironically dominated by science and technology. And from what I've observed, these people don't understand neither. It's like magic for them and as if it will somehow solve all their problems
@ianblack343Ай бұрын
You’ve gotta read “The Origin of Consciousness in Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind” by Julian Jaynes.
@sageknoll32855 күн бұрын
Beckwith offered some very interesting ideas about a Scythian connection with the axial age. The Scythian Empire is a great book. Just out this year with the new genetic and old linguistic evidence coming together.
@Makaneek5060Ай бұрын
We would need more archaeology in Iran and Afghanistan to nail down when Zoroaster lived, but they're Iran and Afghanistan.
@georgios_5342Күн бұрын
29:03 Pythagoras wasn't from Sicily though, he was from Icaria, an island off the coast of Anatolia. You might be confusing him with Archimedes
@nathanielzarny1176Ай бұрын
The problem with your idea of needing one god is that people were still polytheistic for another 700 years after this era.
@breadorchopstix5920Ай бұрын
What’s wrong with the thumbnail
@user-ut3zf7gr2sАй бұрын
I don't know
@ethank.3201Ай бұрын
I don’t know
@Midnight-siege04Ай бұрын
I don't know
@arandomguest0089Ай бұрын
I don't know
@luigiwithabeard98Ай бұрын
I don't know
@noahfischer3088Ай бұрын
This video was very all over the place. Like to many incomplete thought going from one topic to another without much of a bridge just all over the place.
@EKAWORLDPEACEАй бұрын
Very curious about ancient African history
@gerardgearon420629 күн бұрын
Just the Ticket, young man. New sub to the new channel, big fan of Whatifalthist, too. Definitely don't always agree but always find them thought provoking. Many Thanks. 😀😀😀😀😀
@xarisgiannwros8715Ай бұрын
You should do a video about eastern mysticism to do the topic justice now 😅 also I think it would be a fun and exiting video
@shivlad6229Ай бұрын
I love your videos but please work on the thumbnail
@MrGrim-yr8sgАй бұрын
LMFAO
@CulusMagnusАй бұрын
Lol, why are you concerned about his thumbnail? Anything other than clickbait is unworthy of your cursor?
@ilya.m2005Ай бұрын
Nah it’s great
@michaelstoop1844Ай бұрын
Thumbnail is perfectly adequate
@QuickestQuickChopАй бұрын
Source: trust me dude@@TheMightyWalk
@LOPEKJJJ14 күн бұрын
You missed that the first Jewish Temple was destroyed in 500 bce. According to Jewish tradition this is what launched the Axial Age. The destruction of the Temple unleashed a more rational approach to spirituality that extinguished prophecy and replaced the superstitious cults in Europe and Asia.
@bill0x2a20 күн бұрын
The iPhone charging sound kills me please stop it ❤❤
@marpsrАй бұрын
Confucius say: man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day ⚡️
@Mr._AnderpsonАй бұрын
I wish Rudyard had clarified what he meant when he referred to the Bible as a historical document. Many listeners, particularly if they come from religious areas of the US, will interpret that as "the Bible is a history book", which is the mistake which gives way to fundamentalism.
@jesse123185Ай бұрын
The Bible is a history book of sorts you just have to understand that in context of how history was done in the past. The way we do history now came about in the 20th century from the western world. Regardless this isn't what makes people fundamentalist
@Mr._AnderpsonАй бұрын
@@jesse123185 It certainly is. People read the stories, start counting back generations, & arrive at the conclusion the Earth is 6000 years old , virgins actually pop out babies, & other metaphors like the ascension which shouldn't be taken literally. I'm a fan of most aspects of Christianity, but I can't nod along to narratives like the Egyptian captivity & exodus being taken as history.
@arandomguest0089Ай бұрын
Oh Lord, Rudy, what happened to your thumbnail bro? Edit: That's a bit better!
@zanny7819Ай бұрын
While standardized coins were first invented by the Lydians, the oldest form of metal currency (i.e. coins) may be traced to mesopotomia some millenia before the axial age. Beyond this, Lydia was not a greek speaking area. At the time, Lydia was populated by Lydians who spoke the Lydian language which initself is as close to Greek as it is to Hindi (being in the anatolian sub-branch of the indo european languages). While it is true that greek colonies on the western coast of anatolia did, as with many other peoples, pay tribue to Lydia, it was certainly not the case that the Lydians were themselves Greek. Further your claim of a lack of coinage during this era in the region of the middle east is odd considering that the bulk of the coinage of this era was produced by the Achamenid (Persian) empire.
@ackhakАй бұрын
How can you claim that these people from 500 BC were the foundation for the Abrahamic religions? Abraham himself lived in 2000 BC and Moses was like 1300 BC. I guess you can claim it influenced Christianity and Islam. But pretty much the entire Old Testament was before the axial age
@mountainmanmike1014Ай бұрын
Moses and Abraham are not real people they are mythological figures. ask a rabbi they will tell you.
@danielhopkins296Ай бұрын
Its a great lie to say India 500 bc didn't have contact with other empires. The name Cambyses is a namesake of the Kambojas who the Buddhist converted during the reign of Cyrus. Cyrus is a namesake of the Indian Kurus who were aligned with the Kambojas. The archeologist Flinders Petrie unearthed an Indian Buddha at the Memphis Ptah temple dated to the time of Cambyses. The Indian Kurus married into the Gautamas as the name Codomannus ( Sans Gautaman, a variant of Gautama) is found in the family of Cyrus' (Kurus(
@getknowledge37Ай бұрын
your amazing bro
@amandacollyer645Ай бұрын
Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one
@j.harris83Ай бұрын
Have you been keeping up with John Vervaeke’s work on this topic?
@getknowledge37Ай бұрын
Is there a way to have you on a podcast or chat
@tylerlachney1616Ай бұрын
I think you need to include second temple Judaism into this group of religions and philosophies
@jamesbisonnetteАй бұрын
is there a Inca Empire vid?
@chief_tobias_Ай бұрын
The Silk Road. That is all.
@aahz42Ай бұрын
Dang, man, I just read Bertrand Russell's history of western philosophy. Very good book!
@WhatifAltHistАй бұрын
I love that book
@aahz42Ай бұрын
@@WhatifAltHist suggest - Will Durant's Story of Philosophy as well - also, 1491, 1493, and "What is History" by Carr
@aahz42Ай бұрын
my favorite thing about Bertrand Russell was he just kept pounding in the Greek third of the book about the different focus on the number of things, whether it was 1 (Atomic), 2 (dualism), 3 or 4... it was just great how they bounced back and forth - and somehow it kept up somehow into the 1800s. I had a hard time with his view of all philosophers having to have slaves (he was an aristocrat) and him being so conservative (as in against democracy) but I kinda get it. The Christian book - the only thing I took from that was that his take on the Jewish contribution was minimal, whereas he takes Origen and Augustine as far more important. I think the third book reached its apex in its chapter on Locke and Hume, but I loved his take on Voltaire. I think Durant does a better job on those later philosophers. I also think Russell focused too much (pages and pages!!!) on logical symbolism - but at least he gives honest opinions that he is trying to say what he thinks other philosophers actually think and that he sometimes doesn't really get it all entirely.
@cammasgvАй бұрын
These are good to listen to. Honestly, tho, the face cam seems a bit unnecessary. But that might just be me idk
@natalee7726Ай бұрын
I love your work Rudyard,. I always learn something. Can I request a video on the pre-coinage IOU system? That fascinates me, I can't think how that would work on a large scale
@ManiTatiАй бұрын
"middle east didnt have coinage" Wrrong! The Persian Achaemenid Empire had coins ~ 500 BC
@O0kalaАй бұрын
(Nitpick) Dates with all maps, plz.
@CatholicSoldierXАй бұрын
Very interesting video Eduardo 👍
@pajTHEmanАй бұрын
I am not sure about your coin theory. The medians/persian had coinage since the 5th bc, Egypt since the 4th. We have lots of records from the Persian empire, it’s all Persian though, and ignored by classic studies.
@2joofАй бұрын
lets goooo rud awesome video once again
@Glawackus-1600Ай бұрын
43:13. How does the old saying go? "There is nothing new under the sun."
@ManiTatiАй бұрын
"middle east didnt have a market economy" LOL!!!
@MagicRingАй бұрын
Rudy!!!🥰
@carterghillАй бұрын
35:00 Funny, I used to think Plato was a brilliant philosopher and came to the opposite conclusion with time. The more I learn about Plato's philosophy, the less I respect it and those who abide by it
@kumarg3598Ай бұрын
7:30 is that why i have to bring/buy a coconut to mandir?
@boomerzoomerfigureitout3806Ай бұрын
sweet more please
@AmpasssАй бұрын
Rudyards religious cope is hard to sit through sometimes
@Mr._AnderpsonАй бұрын
Just another symptom of a society in decline. Religion is one of the first branches we reach for when the free-fall begins.
@TheNumberАй бұрын
You should commission an artist to draw anime girls for your thumbnails. People love those damn animes
@mowgli5837Ай бұрын
Why tuff you keep saying the asian socities didn't had good documentations. Just coz they are not in western libraries ? 😂
@omarsarwar_Ай бұрын
very insightful
@thelonelyman-lz8fzАй бұрын
Rupert Sheldrake. Morphic resonance
@Lamarck9226 күн бұрын
I love your videos. I am a little jealous of the breath of knowledge acquired, but I'm surprised you talk about the future in hundreds of years being that we live in the nuclear age and society is degenerating at a very fast clip. I don't think humanity will survive and thrive for another 10 years much less hundreds of years. I'm surprised you haven't spoken to that.
@Merle1987Ай бұрын
Trad Chad with a big Dad.
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146Ай бұрын
58:06 Mircea Eliade? I don't expect him to know how to pronounce Romanian names but this was painfully hard to decipher
@epsilonkw6963 күн бұрын
How do you pronounce it?
@ethank.3201Ай бұрын
247 views in 30 minutes? Bro fell off
@ritaupadhya3139Ай бұрын
Shut up
@andoriannationalist3738Ай бұрын
“Greater Israel”
@slappy8941Ай бұрын
"America has always been part of Israel."
@ReallyAwesomeBoyАй бұрын
I don't understand why Judaism doesn't count as axial age
@jotek5138Ай бұрын
Tbh I think this video would better fit Whatifalthist channel than this one
@levongevorgyan6789Ай бұрын
Wasn't there already morality in ancient Greek mythology before the Axial Age? You sacrificed goats and cows to the gods, sure, but you also had to resist hubris, being a bad host or guest, and lead a good, heroic life to reach Elysium. Those that broke the laws of morality were punished like Tantalus, those that acted in accordance to the moral codes were rewarded. Sounds like a religious moral system to me.
@725k9Ай бұрын
Äÿë!
@TradJackАй бұрын
First
@dan8910100Ай бұрын
🍪
@Cupcake022826 күн бұрын
South India was tribal nah mate maybe you need to learn lot about India 😅
@thedoor3511Ай бұрын
12 minutes in, there are a lot of unsupportable generalities being thrown about and it's clear the speaker isn't very familiar with what he's talking about- no "market economy" in "the middle east"- does he just mean coin based economies? Because "market economy" typically refers to something else. The commentary on religion as well, the idea of societies "progressing faster than their religions" is silly. The idea that somehow "machinery" would be a problem for Christianity because the Bible happens to use a lot of agricultural metaphors? It's not like Christianity is a thriving world religion today or anything. The speaker doesn't seem to be very familiar with religious thought at all, except as charicature.
@thedoor3511Ай бұрын
Ah jeez, just hit "communism is a religion". I'm out lmao
@obiwankenobi6871Ай бұрын
There’s only one true solution to this, and that’s to return to Christianity ✝️☦️ CHRISTOS ANESTI 🕊️
@skeletalforce9673Ай бұрын
alithos anesti!
@yonathanrakau1783Ай бұрын
Some churches are literally woke heaven. It's disgusting
@Bleachdemon88Ай бұрын
The first rule of Orphism is, you do not talk about Orphism. Second rule of Orphism, you DO NOT talk about Orphism
@arfase9386Ай бұрын
religious relativism is the worst take Rudyard has. Hopefully he comes to realize that being "spiritual" is pagan BS
@moncro1871Ай бұрын
I love this channel but bro make better thumbnails you can get so much more attention
@SevenStopGamingАй бұрын
Fix the thumbnail
@buglepongАй бұрын
europe and the middle east in 400 bc? what
@kevinhowe543Ай бұрын
That intro conversation aged poorly XD, its what I honestly expected as well but we definitely live in the most absurd times
@notsocrates9529Ай бұрын
What a myopic way of thinking. I hate that phrase, "aged good/bad".