The Bronze Age Collapse: How Civilisation Survived 1177BC (w/ ERIC CLINE)

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[@alfonsolopez2540]

3 am... couldn't sleep ... then I switched the tube on and spent the most enthralling 70-plus minutes of my last decade. Having read the first 1177 book a few years ago, I truly loved the subject and your delivery.

[@MoAnInc]

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[@PeterOConnell-pq6io]

Seems to me that in the face of rising climate-related difficulties growing the crops that bankrolled the late bronze age powers that were, the ruling class remained too greedy, and over-reliant on foreign mercenaries, for their own good, and depending on local conditions, got their just desserts. Something the subsequent, and our current iteration of oligarchs might want to think about.

[@amielwayne]

As a fellow academic, there is nothing more relatable than a historian arguing against the subtitle of his own book, because it isn't *technically* true, but he lost the battle with his editors. 😂 20:41 I'm on team "Hammurabi's Shoes"!

[@sarahrosen4985]

Hammurabi's Shoes is such a better title. My daughters would even be tempted to read it if they saw that title on the bookshelf. Had 1177 since the first printing and cannot convince either of them to even pick it up off the shelf. And we live in the centre of where the Bronze Age collapsed! Marketing literally gave an unpick-up-able title.

[@MoAnInc]

😂😂😂

[@Crecganford]

I really enjoyed his previous book, and so will have a read of this new one.

[@juanfervalencia]

@crecganford I enjoy every single one of your videos, your channel is one of the best. I have read several of your recomendations too, nice to see you here. Saludos desde Colombia.

[@RK-ec5de]

Crecganford!

[@MoAnInc]

Dr Cline’s work is GREAT!! 🤓

[@Jippa_33]

Great channel Crecganford!

[@GeoffreyFox619]

Erica, I’ve been watching KZbin videos since 2006 and this is the first and only comment I’ve ever been moved to make on a video. Thank you so much for doing these interviews and for making them lively and enjoyable. You don’t get much marketable history content in a visual medium; and while I love a traditional history book, an upbeat, living color channel where you conduct these interviews is a real treat. Thank you very much.

[@billthomas7644]

It seems to me that Homer knew something about the Sea People based on two passages in the Odyssey. Menelaus tells Telemachus about his sojourn in Egypt after the Trojan War and the story that Odysseus tells the swine herd. The second story sounds similar to the Sea People attack on Egypt

[@markknowles8498]

Couldn't agree more. Almost certain that memories of these rovers are woven into the tapestry, alongside other nautical nightmares... Such a fascinating period of history (and, in case you're interested, you might like this section of Michael Wood's epic 1980s documentary about Troy, in which he speaks to Dr Elizabeth French, daughter of the great Mycenae expert Alan Wace. She has a brilliant angle on their base of operations.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXPOap1viNGVZ7s, from 42 mins).

[@jameshattaway7017]

I’ve had Dr. Cline’s book 1177 on my wish-list for several years now- this interview clinched it. Ordered them both. Can’t wait. By the way, great (and I mean GREAT) interview!

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much 🙏✨

[@HectorLopez-km7vh]

Dr. Cline! EXCELLENT questions and what a tremendous communicator of his work. AWESOME!!

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you! 🙏

[@lillpoetboy]

This is so awesome!! I bought book moons ago and I can't believe you had this discussion. Was not expecting this. Made my day!

[@MoAnInc]

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[@SolracCAP]

Love seeing Eric Cline anywhere he shows up, always a great and interesting conversation.

[@MoAnInc]

He’s fantastic!

[@Gorboduc]

Great interview, and a third volume coming out is the best news I've heard in a long time. 👍

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you!

[@cbretschneider]

Excellent episode! I've been curious about this subject ever since I first caught Dr. Cline's lecture on the bronze age collapse of 1177. Great to see him on your channel.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you for tuning in 🤓🫶🏼✨

[@chuckleezodiac24]

a new book by Eric Cline? beautiful! the Bronze Age Collapse is one of my favorite eras!

[@MoAnInc]

🤩

[@zacharyclark3693]

In the third book, do reverse-chronological order. Start at the end at the beginning of the book, and each chapter goes backwards until you get to the end of the Bronze Age collapse. Making sure you focus on the long term implications of the Bronze Age collapse.

[@gavinsmith9564]

Wonderful interview, really excited to read these books now. Hopefully Professor Cline will self publish the Armana letters manuscript on Kindle or similar if a publisher doesn't snap it up.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much!

[@markknowles8498]

Erica, another great interview.. This is personally my favourite of all because it covers so much of the same ground as the research behind 'Hades'. He comes across as such a decent man, too (and glad he corrected your doing yourself down at the end!) p.s. will be returning to Mycenae late October on research: get yourself and your partner back there!

[@MoAnInc]

Thanks so much for watching, Mark! And oh my goodness, we’ve actually been talking about returning to Greece soon - how strange 👀

[@matthemming9105]

I'll be honest, the Bronza Age Collapse is my "Roman Empire" in terms of that historical time period that dudes spend way too much thinking about. Thank you for feeding my fixation!

[@MoAnInc]

Thanks for tuning in! 🤓

[@roadtoantiquity]

Yes, love this already! Edit: up until now I never had any interest in reading 1177BC exactly because of the clickbait-y title - I just thought it would be unnuanced. Now I have heard the author speak I think I am going to give it a shot. Just wish publishing houses would not push for titles like this.. gives an almost wrong impression of the book I gather.

[@MoAnInc]

Dr Cline’s books are INCREDIBLE - I hope you enjoy them!!!

[@AldoYanezRuiz]

Excellent interview! Just ordered the first book.

[@MoAnInc]

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!!

[@alyasgrey9370]

Oh my god, I'm thrilled to have stumbled on this channel. It's so exciting to see an interview with Eric Cline, one of my absolute favorite historians.

[@MoAnInc]

:)))

[@devil_pls]

Hello. I'm pretty new to this channel and eventhough I haven't seen that much of your videos yet I definitely love that you seem to interview allot of people on these topics that otherwise might not get the recognition they deserve if it wasn't for the internet and lengthy interviews like this that you do. Love stuff like this and keep it up 👍

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much for watching 🩵

[@alwilliams5177]

Excellent episode! Really hope the Amarna letters book makes it out. I am certain there are many who would love it.

[@dezukaful]

another exciting interview!!

[@MoAnInc]

🤓

[@davehas12]

Brilliant interview! Love Dr Clines .. love this channel. Thank you

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much!!!

[@allesvergaengliche]

Great video! I loved Dr. Cline’s 1177, and I didn’t know there was a sequel.

[@MoAnInc]

And now you do 🤓

[@tudorm6838]

Great interview! I look forward to a new book by Eric Cline more than a new episode of Star Wars :)

[@MoAnInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@NancyBruning]

Nice interview about a rather frightening topic, in that we seem to be heading towards a similar collapse. Book number 4, expanding upon what we’ve learned about collapse and how to deal with it, will be fantastic! All this knowledge and analysis could be put to use.

[@WillMowass]

My favorite channel on YT. Love this interview. Getting both books!

[@MoAnInc]

Thank youuuuu 🥹🫶🏼

[@LeeKempter]

This was so good, Erica! I stopped midway and ordered his second book!

[@MoAnInc]

😍😍😍

[@macnichols7180]

Thoroughly enjoyed this! Am subscribing as a result.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you!!

[@Jippa_33]

You have wonderful guests like Dr. Cline & Stephen Fry, all of my favorites! Have you spoken to Irving Finkel?

[@MoAnInc]

Yes I have!

[@crhu319]

​@@MoAnIncRobyn Faith Walsh would be another amazing interview.

[@KevinWardle-jn6bo]

I would love to volunteer in Archeology dig, especially with my extensive knowledge of Bronze age and Iron age research.

[@OldThomMerton]

I have been interested in Mycenae, the Sea Peoples and Schliemans findings at Troy for decades but only became interested in the Bronze Age Collapse around 2019. So little on the internet on the subject, but a few decent KZbinrs have made a dent in the subject and a few books that didn't really cover the subject well IMO. I just purchased Eric's book and will be delving into it this afternoon! Great video!

[@MoAnInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@asharmstrong6730]

Great work Erica. Fascinating stuff.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you!

[@bhavens9149]

I like Literary whiplash, very nice, adding it to the lexicon

[@MoAnInc]

😂🫡

[@odinfireful]

Erica, thankyou, interesting and you are wonderful. Love your energy!!

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much! 🫶🏼

[@MarkAS56]

Dr. Cline did a great lecture for a company called Modern Scholar, on Archaeology and the Iliad. Its available on cd and i assume download. I remember firsr finding it at my library. Its great.

[@MoAnInc]

He truly is a great speaker.

[@bob___]

On the change in organization from the first book to the second, it makes perfect sense, because the first book tells the tale of a interconnected trading system, while the second book takes the tale of isolated regions after the collapse of the interconnected trading system. If the third book takes the story to the death of Alexander, it will inevitably be a story of reestablishing and extending connections among ancient civilizations. For that reason, if a third form of organization is desired, maybe the place to start is with Alexander and how the world into which he was born came to be - and how he (or his army) changed it.

[@jannarkiewicz633]

Entertaining as always

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you 😇

[@mateobravo9212]

That book is going straight in my basket!

[@MoAnInc]

!!!!

[@juanfervalencia]

I love to see you two together!

[@MoAnInc]

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[@tairayoshimura9056]

Hi Erica, how did Bronze Age societies support and compensate their militaries? If you were the invader, plunder, slave harvests, and land grabs were apparently sufficient. Ig., Caesar in Gaul. But if you were the defender, assembling, supporting, and compensating large armies presents challenges, but yields little commodity gains.

[@crhu319]

Exactly. So invading paid off for rulers while defending didn't. Kind of explains everything.

[@crispycritter9163]

Not being enslaved and keeping all your stuff seems like compensation, to me.

[@toddanderson6568]

Nice interview. One thought that I had is that you should follow this interview up with an expert who has written on 536 AD. Afterwards, you could have both authors on if you feel comfortable with that interview format.

[@TheReelDealwithTomKonkle]

Love your channel.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much :)

[@eriktangerstad1260]

Looking forward to the third part of the trilogi. But it should be called ”North of 1177” and deal with the Tollensee Battle as well as the Bronze Age Peak when the Boltic Sea took the Bronze Age Tourch from The Mediterranean Sea. Hope Eric Cline takes this into considerstion since the connection between the Boltic and the Meditteranean remains understudied altough there is a huge amount of new research on the Baltic sea Bronze Age

[@sarahrosen4985]

Hammurabi's Shoes is a faaaaaaar better title.

[@MoAnInc]

😂😂😂

[@ubertcoolie8694]

I would never have heard of the sea people if I didn't have internet.

[@torrentialrage]

This subject really fascinates me.

[@MoAnInc]

As it should!!

[@Th3BigBoy]

Have you ever talked to Godward? It would be a fun conversation to see you both talk.

[@andylyon3867]

Book 3 divide by aspects of culture. Religion, great thinkers, wars, arts, trade, technology so forth.

[@ryanmichael1298]

I really love this topic.

[@MoAnInc]

😇

[@tudorm6838]

In recent years, a new type of information has emerged beyond archaeology: geological research - this is how we learn that there was a very long drought. Or the DNA analysis of the ancients - this is how we find out the European origin of the first Philistines (or their assimilation by the local population later). This information was already used in the second book.

[@michaelstearnes1526]

Erica, I hope that someday you will interview Prof. Barry Strauss. His book on the naval battle of Salamis is a fascinating read.

[@MoAnInc]

I have Interviewed Professor Strauss, but about his book on Caesar's death! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJnXl3mPl6uMg80

[@michaelstearnes1526]

@@MoAnInc Thanks for posting your interview with Prof. Strauss. Anxiously anticipating his book on Actium. Hopefully we will someday be blessed by a study of the battle of Ecnomus by Prof. Strauss.

[@dozidac]

Now looks like i need to get the book now :)

[@MoAnInc]

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[@markberman6708]

Amazing presenter, will definitely watch later.

[@MoAnInc]

Thank you so much 🫶🏼

[@joknaepkens]

Compared to 536 AD, the Bronze Age Collapse was a doozy. If Krakatoa kept it's chill back then, this text would probably be in Gaelic, Navajo or Latin. 😆

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Great dialogue 👌 👏 👍 I'm typically a devil's advocate here, but Eric is the man and a great educator who I've learned so much from and followed many generations throughout his career.

[@MoAnInc]

Thanks for watching! 🤓

[@jaeslow6347]

Whenever I see his face I’m convinced he’s like a actor or something, he has a very recognisable face.

[@avenaoat]

Interesting I think the true end of the antiqity is not 476 AD, but it would be better 536 AD. It may be the irone age (antiqity) was between 1177 BC to 536 AD (instead of 476 AD). Phoenicians was succesful to restart the trading after 1177 BC. Only some city got seriouse problem in Phoenicia as Ugarit.

[@omicdog]

People in the US call it George Washington University. GW is what we call Games Workshop, which is in the UK.

[@georgesparks7833]

Yes, I subscribed 😊

[@MoAnInc]

:))))

[@GSteel-rh9iu]

1:04:15 536AD Fimbul winter in Sweden.

[@SubtleReed]

We just came out of the dark ane and now we have to go to the bronze age. Look, man, I'm going to the Golden Age right now.

[@CheddarBayBaby]

Eric’s got that ancient historian rizz

[@skogstjuven]

be from South America I always wonder. The Bronze Age Collapse only happened in what we today call Norden Africa and the Middle East right? Bronze Age live on for longer in South and Central America?

[@askallois]

In South America they knew no metals except gold. Metals were imported n3l 1500 AD by the Spanish. At least that's what I learnt at school.

[@michaelfritts6249]

Bronze was not prevalent in the America's, just like Iron, until the Spanish.. Gold, and even platinum were used for decoration.. Obsidian made sharper weapons.. Copper was utilized in North America by 6,000 CE. South America 1500 CE Central America a bit later.. The wheel was used for "toys".. metal for adornment and art. Obsidian and flint for weapons. It wasn't a necessity to use metal for that utility.. Too late by the time Europeans arrived in a few thousand years to start using metal for War instead of Art.

[@pablolongobardi7240]

horribly summarized: I want to make a book about shoes No, doesnt sell, make it about bronze age collapse Shoes! okok, start with collapse go to shoes, finish with bornze age collapse Deal!

[@vanhowell3011]

At 30:00, you ask us what third approach could follow the chronological and geographical? The answer lies a minute or two earlier, in your mentioning of Alexander, Buddha, etc. This is when distinct personalities emerge (as ta consistently dominant factor in history-making) for the first time. Although shrouded in myth, they're vividly individual... BIOGRAPHICAL is what you need for part three! Of course you won't be rehashing actual biographies of actual people very much, but by putting them into their CHRONOLOGICAL and GEOGRAPHICAL CONTEXTS you can write something almost like a biography of the world as it was during those centuries,,, with the individual human beings shining brightly and illuminating our path... It might be good literature-that is to say, more interesting-as well as correct politics to give equal time to females, and includes some gods and goddesses, heroes and heroines, as well as mortals.

[@_DarkEmperor]

One thing is sure, modern women fashion is overrated, and we should go back to Minoan fashion.

[@kurts4867]

many such cases...

[@altinksart]

Du vi no iv bronze Age cululter in mitrian si hav an konekson vit bronze Age cululter in china Zhang en Mycenaean Som konekson

[@Douglas.Scott.McCarron]

Civilisation?

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

I'm all for Sea Peoples and poor quality copper memes.

[@DanSam48]

Going forward, could you keep the camera on the beautiful dark haired English lass and not the old man?

[@MoAnInc]

… that would be Eric Cline, THE expert in the Bronze Age Collapse so … no x

[@DanSam48]

@@MoAnInc yeah, but seriously, what sets your channel apart from the dozen other places he's giving that interview on YT? It's you dear. I'm fully capable of respecting your intellect, but getting to look at you is better than him, and your competition for views. Thanks for the content.

[@1d1ane]

We get it Erik, she's AI.

[@PeterJessenDK]

So much circling around the matter without ever really getting to the core. Do Americans scholars have an institutional bias always focusing on the "biblical geography" and leaving out the whole picture of the European Bronze age stretching all the way to the North?

[@MoAnInc]

We don’t “circle around the matter” at all - my job is to bring to light the themes of a book in order to encourage people to read said book (or in this case, books*). I’m not going to conduct an interview where we go over all the details or else people would never pick up the book!

[@PeterJessenDK]

@@MoAnInc Didn't want to be rude, was enlightened by your interesting video❤️ But had expected to hear more details about those specific years mentioned, as I'm not very likely ever to get the book in my hands.

[@honeybeechanger]

Instead of geographical and chronological you could go societal or biographical...❔🤔

[@MoAnInc]

🤔🤔🤔

[@jameskynge4757]

Spends most of video talking about his own books and ancient sources. Very little on what actually happened in Bronze Age collapse.

[@BizarrePower]

Forget that comment about you trying to be cute. You are cute as is.

[@jag0937eb]

Nice polka dots

[@MoAnInc]

Thank youuuuu

[@infinidimensionalinfinitie5021]

information of interest; to soMe;

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

Shs is pretty.... when I grow up I'm going to marry her

[@MoAnInc]

Interesting take from this video?

[@Yoo-yooYeshua]

Cutie

[@MoAnInc]

I too think Dr Cline is adorable

[@drillbabydrill892]

Good stuff. Would be better if the woman would stop giggling.

[@MoAnInc]

???

[@emmetsweeney9236]

The Bronze Age collapse is pure fiction. Read Velikovsky's Ages in Chaos and Ramses ii and his Time.

[@nmalbrecht]

Velikovsky was a pseudo historian who’s goal was to reconcile the archeological record with the Bible

[@persallnas5408]

omg 12 hour intro and the hands below your mug trying to be cute? No thank u, NO THANKS

[@MoAnInc]

No one is forcing you to watch the interview if you don’t want to✨ You also don’t have to leave comments that are wholly negative just to get attention. I don’t do anything to just try and be cute (I actually place my hand there to remind me to keep my back straight!), but thanks for clicking on the video and giving it a go anyways