Explaining USBM (United States Black Metal)

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Wyattxhim

Wyattxhim

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• I Shalt Become - Wande...
NME
• NME - Unholy Death (1986)
Totem
• Toten - Dreary Proximity
Von
• Von - Satanic Blood An...
Profanatica
• Profanatica - Profanat...
Judas Iscariot
• Judas Iscariot - Thy D...
Black Funeral
• Black Funeral - Vampyr...
Grand Belial's Key
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Weakling
• Weakling - Dead As Dre...

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@jackattak1209
@jackattak1209 2 жыл бұрын
Another example of the United States making a response to a European scene with a more angry attitude is punk. I am of the belief that punk belongs to the UK. But the United States can lay claim to hardcore. Stripped down. More angry. No studs and leather. Just sweatshirts and jeans but much faster and stripped down. Punk is European originally, but the United States' response was hardcore.
@wyattxhim
@wyattxhim 2 жыл бұрын
damn I was actually going to say that in this video but decided not to cause im not that well versed in punk's music
@jackattak1209
@jackattak1209 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyattxhim as much of a metalhead as I am, I consider myself more of a punk. And even still, assigning punk to the UK is a "hot take" to some punks. So I don't blame you for not talking about it lol. Love the video man
@richardwhitehead40
@richardwhitehead40 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackattak1209 would you say there is or are European punks bands that predate the Stooges and MC5? I know those two can be considered proto-punk, but I think they've been cited as the two forerunners of the genre enough to make a solid case for them.
@jackattak1209
@jackattak1209 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardwhitehead40 I don't think have any bands from the UK that predate Stooges/MC5. But while I LOVE those bands, I think proto-punk is a perfect descriptor. Same applies to Ramones imo. But punk really came to form with those late 70s UK bands. Again, no disrespect to iggy or MC5. Just my perspective!
@richardwhitehead40
@richardwhitehead40 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackattak1209, I can go with that. Honestly when I was younger the "who did what and when" mattered a lot more to me. Now I spend more time appreciating the new music I'm able to discover that I like and disregard the music nerd elitism. Or at least try to. I was kind of hoping you were going to fill me in on a band or two that I'd missed. Always on the lookout for new stuff.
@illlistentowhateveriwantto933
@illlistentowhateveriwantto933 2 жыл бұрын
Now explain USPS
@mikerophone235
@mikerophone235 2 жыл бұрын
More evil than any BM band
@FullMooN651
@FullMooN651 Жыл бұрын
Best comment of the year
@jacquestange9104
@jacquestange9104 Жыл бұрын
Usps?
@FullMooN651
@FullMooN651 Жыл бұрын
@@jacquestange9104 United States postal services lol
@FullMooN651
@FullMooN651 Жыл бұрын
@@jacquestange9104 very kvlt
@ryanleroux1037
@ryanleroux1037 2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see a video where someone talking about USBM isn’t just gushing over Leviathan and Jef Whitehead the whole time.
@altnap
@altnap 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@chasedispennette5989
@chasedispennette5989 2 жыл бұрын
fr
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
perfectly reasonable to gush over Leviathan/Lurker of Chalice.
@chasedispennette5989
@chasedispennette5989 2 жыл бұрын
@@spergerkang5291 he’s gushed over for a reason, super talented dude
@honeycomblord9384
@honeycomblord9384 2 жыл бұрын
I'd also reccomend Eddy Metal's video about USBM, it's another good guide that goes over lots of bands
@thescrawl6594
@thescrawl6594 2 жыл бұрын
USBM excels when it goes beyond boundaries of what is considered "Black Metal" while remaining true to its spirit. The best example of this in my opinion is Agalloch, which might not have much black metal instrumentation, but is definitely black metal in its soul and atmosphere.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@aquacamel posers can't gatekeep
@aSandwich.13
@aSandwich.13 2 жыл бұрын
Minenwerfer has really pushed the boundaries of black metal as well. Shit the guitar work on alpenpasse is like straight out of David Gilmour's playbook.
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
@@aSandwich.13 that band is extremely good. I thought they were European at first.
@aSandwich.13
@aSandwich.13 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyeseayew189 Nah they're American. They're a bit sus, but holy fuck their music dude.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@aSandwich.13 a bit sus? what does that mean?
@aaronmertz9824
@aaronmertz9824 2 жыл бұрын
Jef Whitehead was indeed inspired by Weakling as he said so in interviews. He also cited Andrew Harris' guitar work in Judas Iscariot as one of the biggest influences on Leviathan riffs.
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Jon from Weakling was in a band called Gault, HIGHLY under rated.
@markpitt2474
@markpitt2474 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Whitehead is a pioneer in American Black Metal. What he went through with his ex his old record label, fans and friends turning their backs, it was horrible. However; he got married got a new label had a kid and put out ScarSighted a master piece. A true man's hero.
@CreepsSixSixSix
@CreepsSixSixSix 9 ай бұрын
Jef whitehead is a woman beater, found guilty of choking his gf unconscious, just saying.
@BT-ic2qs
@BT-ic2qs Жыл бұрын
Hugely underrated usbm is masochist. They only released demos but there’s a compilation of all that material called history and it’s so killer. Brutal aggressive black metal that I see no one ever talk about
@richardwhitehead40
@richardwhitehead40 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 45 and just recently dipped my toe into the black metal pool about 2 months ago. I knew nothing about it besides it sounded like death metal with a banshee singing over it when I first heard it in the mid 90s. And of course the sensational stuff that you learn in the first 5 minutes of looking into this genre. Digging a bit more I liked enough of what I heard of Burzum to look deeper and ended up at blackgaze and dark ambient stuff, stopping along the way to look into USBM like Weakling, Leviathan and Xasthur. Your videos have helped me quite a bit Just wanted to say thanks for helping an old dude whose musical curiosity got the best of him one day.
@ragman3383
@ragman3383 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome bro 🤘🏻
@guitarplayersparadise520
@guitarplayersparadise520 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to Dissection
@dearestbrotherfrank
@dearestbrotherfrank Жыл бұрын
Please don't say you're old, I'm 45 too.
@TheTundraTerror
@TheTundraTerror 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos just because I find it's a great resource for getting people into more extreme versions of metal (as well as metal in general).
@badreligionshirtguy
@badreligionshirtguy 2 жыл бұрын
I use videos like these videos as gateways to find new albums, I have so much fun getting nerdy and in the weeds about niche corners of scenes like this. I’d love to hear you deep dive like this about other genres/regions. Keep up the great work!
@I.P1976
@I.P1976 2 жыл бұрын
VON is definitely the 1st real USBM band & very influential on the Norwegian scene. Weakling’s Dead As Dreams is a masterpiece!!
@I.P1976
@I.P1976 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimminyjillickers6391 Fenriz was listening to Von before writing Transylvanian Hunger
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimminyjillickers6391 Where do Watain take their name from? Did Dork Funeral cover a Von song? I think they did.
@NAT-turners-Revenge
@NAT-turners-Revenge 2 жыл бұрын
Seen von live years ago
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely most like Inquisition, especially the last album Black Mass... , then Leviathan, Judas Iscariot, Black Funeral and of newer bands Cobalt, espeçially albums Eater of Birds and Gin !
@OmegaSwitch
@OmegaSwitch Жыл бұрын
Immediately appreciated you playing Wanderings in the background. One of the first USBM albums that sucked me in and it's still one of my favorites.
@charlescollins6272
@charlescollins6272 2 жыл бұрын
Easily your best video. Big fan of deep dives on scenes and genres and this was really well done. Also, as a Profanatica fanboy I particularly enjoyed the segment regarding them. Good stuff, dude.
@dennisjordan4952
@dennisjordan4952 2 жыл бұрын
Von, profantica, manticore, and demoncy are a great starting point
@DeadJDona
@DeadJDona 2 жыл бұрын
really interesting, thanks! thanks 2 for links in description of video!
@chairmanmeow958
@chairmanmeow958 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. I just found your channel a couple of days ago when I was looking for some background info and bands in the Death Metal and Black Metal Genres. I love music and have always listened to a lot of deathcore, metalcore, some more melodic death metal and more "mainstream" sounding or "palatable" metal acts but I have been getting more into experimental music and really crunchy, ambient, dissonant types of music not just in metal but in electronic and hip hop music as well. I have no background really when it comes to black metal so when I searched I found your channel. I was hooked immediately because of the down to earth vibe and the lack of any kind of condescending tone or anything like that in your videos. I can tell you are just a dude who loves all different kinds of music and knows a lot about these genres and that is that kind of channel I have been looking for. You got my subscription and I cant wait to see what content you come up with in the future.
@slamfam7621
@slamfam7621 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make this a full on series? I.E do another video about UKBM, AUBM (Australian BM) etc etc? that'd be fucking awesome Edit: those were examples, I hope he covers many many other scenes.
@hatecraft6669
@hatecraft6669 2 жыл бұрын
and what about Greek (Hellenic) Black metal? ;) :) :)
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@hatecraft6669 Ukraine, Polish, Hungarian, Canadian. Get to work Wyatt!
@joesmetalmancave
@joesmetalmancave 2 жыл бұрын
Just posted a video on my channel about Ukrainian black metal
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
What about IBM, Iranian Black Metal.
@johnsalchichon8404
@johnsalchichon8404 Жыл бұрын
CHBM (Chilean Black Metal)
@ArtisanFabrication
@ArtisanFabrication 2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video, looking forward to more!!
@popetones7400
@popetones7400 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought Judas Iscariot was totally its own thing. Their songs are unbelievably catchy, almost pop hooks, and great changes. I think they are a good band in general and not just BM or definitely just not a sub-genre. Same w Xasthur. It’s just good music.
@Lucian3030
@Lucian3030 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite USBM band is Inquisition. Their last album is perfection to me.
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Black Mass is real masterpiece !
@Sario_
@Sario_ Жыл бұрын
They're from Colombia
@Lucian3030
@Lucian3030 Жыл бұрын
@@Sario_ yes but the music was made in US. Even Dagon talks about it in an interview. Of course him experiencing stuff in Colombia influenced his music and who he is.
@PazuzuDarkVoid
@PazuzuDarkVoid 10 ай бұрын
Damn man, I really enjoy your channel! While I already knew most of the stuff you talk about I got more insight on a lot of bands and also discovered a few new ones. I like that you're not just reading up these infos, but just talking freely. Keep up the good work bro \m/ Obviously you got my subscription too ;)
@500KiloVolt
@500KiloVolt 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always.
@user-qz7ob2gb6o
@user-qz7ob2gb6o 2 жыл бұрын
Xasthur in my opinion is a pinnacle of usbm because he did something no other did lyrically. He covered the hate and pain in making the music better and less cliche than many other bands in my opinion. He was really depressed where as others went for more shock value especially when Satan is brought up, these days it kind of makes my eyes roll because it's not shocking to me
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
The satanic thing was a response to the foreign alien religion which inhabits their land.
@akillen77
@akillen77 2 жыл бұрын
There were other US dsbm bands before Xasthur like I Shalt Become, Krohm and Veil. Xasthur just became the most popular
@absu132
@absu132 2 жыл бұрын
Because scott (malefic) was already doing black metal with ian robert ritual and mike pardi (Ritual from L.A ) before xasthur.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@akillen77 Krohm is a contemporary of Xasthur and Veil came afterwards. I Shalt Become however is generally considered the originator.
@probie2460
@probie2460 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You earned a sub. Weakling and Leviathan still amaze after all these years.
@rahmatsumantri6577
@rahmatsumantri6577 Жыл бұрын
What are your favorite songs by Leviathan? Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
@teddydog6229
@teddydog6229 Жыл бұрын
Damn you are so dependable! I know you seem to have mixed feelings about them but I loved Abruptum and just filled a whole playlist with their/his(?) stuff. I can count on every new video you make turning me on to some great new artist I haven't heard before. I truly can't thank you enough.
@brennuvargr4638
@brennuvargr4638 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude! Surprised Krieg and Nachtmystium weren't mentioned, though, as they were also very important in the USBM scene (for better or for worse :P).
@squidzarecool720
@squidzarecool720 Жыл бұрын
Nachtmystium is american???????
@brennuvargr4638
@brennuvargr4638 Жыл бұрын
@@squidzarecool720 Yup!
@cable9689
@cable9689 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, can we ever get a full video of you singing/dancing to "Right Here In My Arms" like you did in the comfort jams video?
@OmegaSwitch
@OmegaSwitch Жыл бұрын
I also appreciate how you keep reminding us viewers to drink water (in the means of staying hydrated). It's like you care about us or something!
@isolateddemon9438
@isolateddemon9438 2 жыл бұрын
Valuable info🤘🏻
@wheelsofmercury
@wheelsofmercury 2 жыл бұрын
Also, it would be cool for you to do a video on Canadian black metal! I know you like a lot of the Quebec black metal scene, but you could also talk about bands from other provinces in Canada as well.
@wheelsofmercury
@wheelsofmercury 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, Wyatt! What are your thoughts on the band Lamp of Murmuur from Portland Oregon/Los Angeles California? Do you like them or do you think they are overrated?
@felixrr7381
@felixrr7381 2 жыл бұрын
Minenwerfer
@timrichards2380
@timrichards2380 2 жыл бұрын
Fragments in the background, amazing track
@hatecraft6669
@hatecraft6669 2 жыл бұрын
hey cool video! btw what do you think of the "Blackhearts" Documentary ? from what I remember you haven't commented on it. It's more about the Norwegian scene of course.
@darnfrick3354
@darnfrick3354 Жыл бұрын
I love that you got I Shalt Become in the background. That was always my favorite band, personally. Very eerie stuff. Also it's kinda useless when people keep holding up the first wave of BM as their standard when "black metal" back then just meant any metal with satanic themes like Venom
@followdanger890
@followdanger890 Жыл бұрын
Wanderings is a perfect gloomy day album.
@darnfrick3354
@darnfrick3354 Жыл бұрын
@@followdanger890 Definitely. Especially on a day when the sky is like grey white and there are no shadows outside
@Dungavenhooter-1700
@Dungavenhooter-1700 6 ай бұрын
Especially when compared to "white metal" which is just heavy metal with Christian themes.
@arthurporter131
@arthurporter131 Жыл бұрын
Do you like power metal? I’ve been heavily getting into bands like Omen, Brocas Helm, Manilla Road, and Jag Panzer and would love to hear you talk about them and other USPM bands
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
You also forgot to list the band that influenced your two all time fav British bands( Anaal nathrakth and Dragged into Sunlight) "Hailing from Boston Mass, DECEMBER WOLVES". Listen to "completely dehumanized" or "blasterpiece theatre" its like the other bands but a few years before. Sounds like a black metal version of the berzerker.
@vvinnedge
@vvinnedge 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video...what are your thoughts (if any) on Cobalt? Gin has to be in my top 5 favorite albums of any genre, unmatched intensity, I can hear the PTSD coming from the vocalist who happens to be an infantrymen / combat vet. Eater of Birds is a monster as well.
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 2 жыл бұрын
Really great band, especially these two albums-Eater of Birds and Gin! They should get more recognition. And Inquisition, especially the last album Black Mass is great, Judas Iscariot, Leviathan, Black Funeral are all awesome !
@vvinnedge
@vvinnedge Жыл бұрын
@@mariozd971 OMG, can't believe I didn't think of Inquisition....another one of my favorites...love how unique and different all there albums are......from *Invoking the Majestic throne..* to *Black Mass*....Leviathan got some love in the video as they should....I'll have to check out the other bands you mentioned
@k5elevencinc0
@k5elevencinc0 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know we were doing Black Metal til now. Thanks for putting me up on it! 🇺🇸
@Sanguivore
@Sanguivore 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely dope Enbilulugugal shirt. Where'd you cop that one?
@weirdpath5481
@weirdpath5481 2 жыл бұрын
Love these types of videos. Just going in depth about a certain topic.
@Sentient6ix
@Sentient6ix 2 жыл бұрын
Leviathan and Xasthur are two of my favourite DSBM bands of all time
@rahmatsumantri6577
@rahmatsumantri6577 Жыл бұрын
What are your favorite songs by Leviathan? Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
@rothbardfreedom
@rothbardfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
A video on Brazilian Black Metal would be cool
@spencergrady5501
@spencergrady5501 2 жыл бұрын
Kaatayra
@user-mz9ig5id3o
@user-mz9ig5id3o 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly shitty and Sarcófago wannabe bands
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
Any bands?
@rothbardfreedom
@rothbardfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyeseayew189 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZjXYpqvicSLack + Malkuth + Velho + Luxúria de Lillith + Miasthenia
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
@@rothbardfreedom Thank you.
@aquacamel
@aquacamel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that if you took the Deftones back catalogue and edited out everything that wasn't Chino's loudest screams or the instrumental sections, you'd have Sunbather.
@h2eh1s-
@h2eh1s- Жыл бұрын
Question: is there any truth that Bam Magera from Jackass brought extreme metal ( the Scandinavian bands in particular) to a much wider audience here in the states.
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favourite atm is pyramids from Texas who were basically deafheaven before deafheaven, simply because they are doing like shoegaze meets black metal but they are doing both genres properly. They have a singer who used to be in a Shoegaze band and sound like blut aus nord jamming with My bloody valentine.
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this. If you see the direction they were going stuff like Pyramids and Alcest is why I just found Deafheaven to be overrated, nothing more or less.
@xeritinrx3402
@xeritinrx3402 Жыл бұрын
Ayo where’d you get that shirt? I bought a enbilulugugal shirt a while back but it never came 😭
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 2 жыл бұрын
Also gotta mention Chaos Moon, who feel like the inbetween of Lurker Of Chalice and Leviathan in terms of atmosphere and black metal.
@calebthompson6960
@calebthompson6960 2 жыл бұрын
In response to your comment that you can make a video about what you thing “trve black metal” means, I’d absolute love to see you do a video on that.
@tommysheehan2136
@tommysheehan2136 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video all on DSBM
@vexxn2112
@vexxn2112 2 жыл бұрын
I hoped to hear something about Vampirska, love the sound so much
@ryalwoods1087
@ryalwoods1087 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this. I'm very early in my exploration of black metal so I'm speaking from a place of ignorance here, but I admit I've dismissed out of hand US black metal. I think I'll still focus on European bands for now, but I'll give stateside bands a go when I've got a better grasp on genres and themes.
@satanatas900
@satanatas900 2 жыл бұрын
Von first demo (Satanic Blood) Absu up to Tara Black Witchery Profanatica Demoncy Grand Belial's Key Inquisition up to Ominous Doctrines of... Void Meditation Cult Negative Plane Funereal Presence Ominous Resurrection That's all you need.
@SlyHikari03
@SlyHikari03 2 жыл бұрын
Weakling is pretty nice. Sad they only stayed for 2000. Ps. Running wild is such a badass power metal band, you need to make a vid on them due to how many times you mention them on the channel.
@johnbad1000
@johnbad1000 2 жыл бұрын
You should also do a video on the greek black metal scene. It has such a unique sound and yet it's so underrated.
@zachrussell7636
@zachrussell7636 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing scene!
@vexxn2112
@vexxn2112 2 жыл бұрын
Name of some bands?
@johnbad1000
@johnbad1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@vexxn2112 Rotting Christ, Necromantia and Varathron would be the "big 3". But there are tons of other bands, including the human serpent.
@hellgrinder2148
@hellgrinder2148 2 жыл бұрын
@@vexxn2112 rotting christ, necromantia, varathron, zemial, order of eibon, order of the eibon hand, archemoron, macabre omen, sorgelig, human serpent, morktul, isolert, winter internal
@zachrussell7636
@zachrussell7636 2 жыл бұрын
@@vexxn2112 Acrimonious, ThyDarkenedShade, Varathron, Necromantia, Celtefog, Kawir, Macabre Omen are all shining examples of excellent Hellenic bm bands.
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 2 жыл бұрын
88 comments already before writing lol, A G A L L O C H More namely Pale Folklore. Which yeah as Wyatt compared the Europas to the American equivalents. One thing I will say is what you described about Weaklings originality and Deafheavens fusions is that Agallach was pulling both of those ropes and did it a year with this record before Dead As Dreams. I always found Deafheaven just to be overratted tbh. That drug addict interlude was cool.
@draugsvoll01
@draugsvoll01 2 жыл бұрын
Dead as Dreams was recorded in 1998, before Pale Folklore. I know Agalloch was composing their stuff all the way back in 1996-97, but just sayin
@kingnotail3838
@kingnotail3838 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget, Von's Satanic Blood demo was an influence on Second-Wave Black Metal; people like Varg and Euronymous mentioned it at the time.
@arthurcastro6494
@arthurcastro6494 2 жыл бұрын
Explaining ancient records next ?
@joshifan29
@joshifan29 10 ай бұрын
I'm obsessed with Typhus and Sothis. A bit later in the timeline... middle era by today's time actually. But really good stuff
@skidgore8325
@skidgore8325 Жыл бұрын
Great vid man, Hail Demoncy, Judas Iscariot, Summon, Blood Stained Dusk, Xasthur. I think Christ Inversion & Viking Crown are also worth mentioning for early US black metal. People can say what they want about Phil Anselmo but he is a diehard black metal fan, & he can write some truthly diabolical sounding riffs. "Hail Killjoy" 🤘🥃
@lorenzomagni732
@lorenzomagni732 8 ай бұрын
where did you get that shirt? I played in several Enbilulugugal albums and it's quite rare to see a Tshirt out there
@SeanS1995
@SeanS1995 2 жыл бұрын
I could watch your vids forever, man.
@Radio-Friendly-Unit
@Radio-Friendly-Unit 2 жыл бұрын
Wyatt could legit make a video about like the history of hair dryers for 9 hours and I would absolutely love it
@kyleway8513
@kyleway8513 Жыл бұрын
Including Sunbather is a pretty big dick move. Nothing had ever sounded like that album and it created a wave of albums trying the capture that same feeling of oppressive, choking warmth. I genuinely think that album is one of the most emotionally intense ones Ive ever heard and its to the detriment of the genre that gatekeepers constantly want to hold it and that band apart from it for the sake of posturing.
@auellaitaela8035
@auellaitaela8035 2 жыл бұрын
You ain't wrong about Sunbather. Like it or not, it's a modern classic and one of the most influential black metal albums of our time that will marked as a massive influence on USBM in the coming decades. It's far from my favorite, but its influence is observable and undeniable. Glad you at least mentioned the Cascadian BM scene, even if in passing. As a PNW local, and who played in a Cascadian band for a bit back when it was all the rage in 2012, it's a point of pride that our little area of the world had our own distinct style. It unfortunately is basically dead since it was largely just local bands that did it that didn't get much exposure, and the surviving bands don't really play the style anymore, but for awhile it was great going to a different Cascadian BM show every month and seeing all these great local bands with our own scene that you wouldn't be able to see anywhere else. The style does live on however, in bands like Stellar Descent and Evergreen Refuge, who've evolved it into a more long-form style of music. That'd be cool to see you talk about them as while it's insanely niche, it's just as unique.
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Stellar Descent is raw as fuck, even by black metal standards. Evergreen Refuge is more instrumental folk, some black metal influences but I think the genre hardly fits, definitely enjoy him/them was just listening to them while camping the other day. I don't know any actual black metal influenced by Sunbather, couldn't disagree more on that. It definitely was interesting to see how popular the genre, and especially Wolves, have gotten. Most of the bands are kind of boring though to be honest, same formula, same drumbeat, add some acoustic guitars, etc. But really if we are going to be talking about the genre, we have to mention Fauna, who coined the term.
@akillen77
@akillen77 2 жыл бұрын
The first demo by Open Grave is good early USBM
@the_glove
@the_glove Жыл бұрын
Would be interested in hearing your take on “Melissa” s/t
@asuka376
@asuka376 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Sunbather blackgaze? i'm not a purist btw (just askin')
@weeblesjeeblez
@weeblesjeeblez Жыл бұрын
Talking about USBM but doesn’t even bring up I Shalt Become, but does play some of their songs in the background. What’s up with that? I don’t understand.
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, might as well share Necrite - Sic Transit Gloria Mvndi which gets slept on sadly, even by me, but I'll have to revisit it.
@leonardolaleonardo4924
@leonardolaleonardo4924 2 жыл бұрын
who would be the liturgy equivalent in europe?
@kellymckay1750
@kellymckay1750 2 жыл бұрын
You might check out a USBM band (circa late 90s/ early 2000's) from my hometown Portland ,Oregon. Thy Infernal.
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Nihilist from In Memorium was the vocalist at one point.
@kellymckay1750
@kellymckay1750 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbertlein4626 they were a great band! I first saw them open for Immolation. I wish I still had my Warlords of Hell shirt!
@Meidoyasha
@Meidoyasha 2 жыл бұрын
Weakling is fucking deadly. Stands tall and high with any European Black metal album.
@eulogioalbertorobles4133
@eulogioalbertorobles4133 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the time to do a something similar with black metal from my country (Chile), but the history of the genre here is even a bit more obscure lmao
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Just remembered Minnenwerfer-Alpenpasse, one of the greatest USBM albums ever and easily top ten of the genre as a whole in the last decade!
@HardwareFahrrad
@HardwareFahrrad 2 жыл бұрын
no...
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareFahrrad Yes..Going on 30 years of listening to metal and I am saying its in the top hundred all time list, what do you got?
@HardwareFahrrad
@HardwareFahrrad 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbertlein4626 no...
@pastoolio9158
@pastoolio9158 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareFahrrad yes...
@HardwareFahrrad
@HardwareFahrrad 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastoolio9158 no...
@nathanjudy7705
@nathanjudy7705 2 жыл бұрын
Austin Lun is a true gem of a person and makes such interesting blends of American Folk and BM. I like that he dropped the whole 'evil for evil's sake' for more political and personal ideas. Kentucky is one of my favorite BM albums, its got amazing riffs, lays out great history with the lyrics and I grew up with my dad listening to Folk and Bluegrass all the time so that aspect feels comforting and nostalgic. The pacing is great, letting you rest a bit. Also I've literally never heard of Profanatica, never shown up in related artist or come up in convos, but I definitely gotta check them out. Sounds fucking sick.
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Literally hundreds of bands are just about nature, history, or if it is darkness, its philosophical more than anything (never paid attention to Emperor?). People who say stuff like you just come off like you are relatively ignorant of the larger scene. Ulver, Arcturus, shit even Burzum has nothing to do with anything actual evil, just fantasy lore at most. And his stuff is alright, talented for sure but the best thing he did was the second part of Roads to North.
@starvationpool9982
@starvationpool9982 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbertlein4626 same with Drudkh or hell, as much as I don’t like their music beyond their first record, Wolves in the Throne Room. There are so many bands new and old who have done the “folk BM” sound. From Drudkh, to Obsequiae, to Agalloch, to I’d go as far as to even say Ruins of Beverast. There is a hell of a lot of it out there that are arguably BETTER than Panopticon. Just my opinion, Drudkh and Agalloch are the best folk BM I’ve ever heard.
@Jardinserpent
@Jardinserpent Жыл бұрын
Cool video. Absu started out before Aura Noir existed tho.
@hellionrebellionrocknrolla744
@hellionrebellionrocknrolla744 Жыл бұрын
Love the Enbilulugugal shirt!
@lilblooddrop3360
@lilblooddrop3360 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what his fav metal genre is
@mikerophone235
@mikerophone235 2 жыл бұрын
Ay how's that Genocide Organ lp?
@sapling1199
@sapling1199 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@GreatBeardofWisdom
@GreatBeardofWisdom 2 жыл бұрын
What's the track playing behind the Deafheaven section? Sounds familiar but I'm struggling to put my finger on it.
@wyattxhim
@wyattxhim 2 жыл бұрын
“Background music”
@GreatBeardofWisdom
@GreatBeardofWisdom 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyattxhim Should have checked that first really, shouldn't I? I was cooking at the time and didn't think about it.
@mikeythemutt8460
@mikeythemutt8460 2 жыл бұрын
Xasthur was actually one of the first black metal bands I listened to. Telepathic With The Deceased is still damn good. Do you listen to any Stoner/Doom metal? Just curious.
@78deathface
@78deathface 2 жыл бұрын
Xasthur is amazing
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it when black metal and sludge are paired together like Cobalt and Withered.
@cookiesontoast9981
@cookiesontoast9981 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Xasthur Nocturnal Poisoning was the 6th black metal album I ever heard. Still adore it today, love Funeral of Being and Telepathic too. And I haven't heard much regular Doom metal but I have heard a lot of Funeral Doom. My first 10 BM albums that got me into my favourite ever genre of music: 1: Burzum - Burzum 2: Burzum - Det Som Engang Var 3: Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss 5: Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas 6: Xasthur - Nocturnal Poisoning 7: Peste Noire - La Sanie des siècles - Panégyrique de la dégénérescence 8: Thyabhorrent - Death Rides At Dawn 9: Burzum - Filosofem 10: Behemoth - Sventevith (Storming Near the Baltic) Heard hundreds more since, fukin love black metal.
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 2 жыл бұрын
@@spergerkang5291 Cobalt was another big name I was thinking was gonna be shown.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeroAngelo616 Wyatt basically did a general overview. If you keep adding bands you're postponing the video. Besides, us ankle biters in the comments section will mention the bands left out.
@anxrchy6853
@anxrchy6853 Жыл бұрын
What is the band on your t shirt?
@heavymetalmusicofdestructi3430
@heavymetalmusicofdestructi3430 2 жыл бұрын
would also include inquisition wolves the throne room hulder sinsaenum panopticon acheron as well
@rubenmartinez6541
@rubenmartinez6541 2 жыл бұрын
yea. you forgot the other early bands like masochist, summon, lucifers hammer, adn wind of the black mountains. very vital to the early 2nd wave of usbm. if you havent heard them than i advise to check them out.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
Goatlord, Sathanas/Bathym, Yamataru, Averse Sefira, Black Mass of Absu, Gonkulator, December Wolves, Krohm, Vrolok, Demoncy, Obeisance, Crucifier, Order from Chaos/Angelcorpse. Still a decent vidya; can't name em' all.
@cosmicmoose6663
@cosmicmoose6663 2 жыл бұрын
Naas Alcameth leads the USBM scene in quality black metal. Canada has some good shit too
@RockinRickyFox50
@RockinRickyFox50 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you’re like the American fenriz 🤘
@friedux2065
@friedux2065 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didnt mention Krallice, arguably the most listened to USBM band.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
The spiritual successor to Weakling, but I doubt that they're the most listened to.
@user-mz9ig5id3o
@user-mz9ig5id3o 2 жыл бұрын
The most listened atm must be Minenwerfer
@palbo4
@palbo4 2 жыл бұрын
Right? They're such a mind blowing band. Krallice, Jute Gyte, and Yellow Eyes are the best USBM bands, I think
@jklcjr45
@jklcjr45 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a Krallice mention too, but I disagree that they're the most listened-to USBM band. I think they're often overlooked in the USBM landscape IMO, which is surprising considering their consistent contributions to it going back to the late 2000s. Years Past Matter is an incredible album
@cjcoronado
@cjcoronado 2 жыл бұрын
Mo’ynoq from Raleigh, NC is easily my favorite USBM band. Hell favorite black metal band overall. The whole North Carolina extreme music scene has a ton of gems
@NAT-turners-Revenge
@NAT-turners-Revenge 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@Bruh-ob9mi
@Bruh-ob9mi Жыл бұрын
They ain’t black metal, but are you familiar with the melodeath band, Æther Realm? They’re a killer little band from NC.
@reeree488
@reeree488 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do more obscure European bands like defeated sanity
@isangfortheswans1578
@isangfortheswans1578 2 жыл бұрын
Sunbather is my favorite metal album and my 3rd favorite album ever its funny to see how almost 10 years later it breaks black metal fans apart
@patrickbertlein4626
@patrickbertlein4626 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. We don't see people like you as part of this scene. Most kvlt kids would say the same thing about me though I listen to a ton of post rock and shoegaze oriented stuff. I don't care if you like it, not my problem, just don't think you know what you're talking about.
@gorenoisebulldozer140
@gorenoisebulldozer140 2 жыл бұрын
Doom Metal iceberg? Also check out Slund sense you like Knelt Rote.
@ShadowSamba
@ShadowSamba Жыл бұрын
My favorite newer USBM bands are Mare Cognitum, Stormkeep and Antichrist Siege Machine
@orkamist3999
@orkamist3999 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like to mention doomstone from vaginia from some interviews with king fowley he says the reason for making the project was to make fun of the black metal scene at the time. their debut "Those Whom Satan Hath Joined" from 1994 has more of a mixture of venom,mercyful fate,and black Sabbath with modern black metal vocals basically stating that it was a fuck off to the Nordic black metal that was going on at the time by going back to the roots
@Fo-Flats
@Fo-Flats Жыл бұрын
That Doomstone 7 inch & first full length is CLASSIC 🤘
@orkamist3999
@orkamist3999 Жыл бұрын
@@Fo-Flats fr man for a joke band it's really good
@wewuzwolves4428
@wewuzwolves4428 11 ай бұрын
I saw those guys in DC in '93 at the Asylum. They may have been making fun of BM, but they were better than a lot of more serious bands.
@lokisyx4049
@lokisyx4049 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of Ezurate?
@evaldasd2907
@evaldasd2907 Жыл бұрын
Ancestors-Carnis Vale-Fever Nest-Slavehouse-Bone Awl-Nachtlicht-Ancient Necromancy are some of my fave u.s.b.m bands
@darnfrick3354
@darnfrick3354 Жыл бұрын
Unironically I love Sunbather. I think Post Black is a great spinoff genre. It's less juvenile and more thoughtful
@oddthemute6172
@oddthemute6172 10 ай бұрын
Deafheaven's Sunbather is a direct response to Weakling's Dead as Dreams. Weakling walked so Deafheaven could run.
@heathens_swill
@heathens_swill Жыл бұрын
One thing I find strange about Weakling is their guitarist. Prior to joining Weakling he played in an instrumental band that practiced very intricate mathrock combined with... heavy metal of all things. Extremely complex technical jackery. I really recommend the band and album. The Fucking Champs: "lll."
@RichardWolfe79
@RichardWolfe79 2 жыл бұрын
Blood Stained Dusk, Crimson Moon, Worsen, and Sinira are a few I can think of.
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think one of the most underappreciated people in the USBM scene is Mike Apocalypse from being a co founder of gravehill to his other bands The infamous Gehenna (black metal meets hardcore) and Sangraal (blackened grindcore), been round the scene a long time and still producing great stuff.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I was just recommended Sangraal, but the Sangraal out of PA, not California. Project of Daniel Martin if Vrolok, another highly underappreciated band.
@eyeseayew189
@eyeseayew189 2 жыл бұрын
Gehenna is really good. Never knew where they're from.
@spergerkang5291
@spergerkang5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@eyeseayew189 there are many different Gehennas. the most recent one I listened to was Swedish but the OP os speaking of the one from California.
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
@@spergerkang5291 Yes Gehenna (cali) aka the infamous gehenna, I do like how they parodied yet out cooled "the true" mayhem, whilst also throwing a mobb deep reference in.
@phinehasr
@phinehasr Жыл бұрын
Mike Cheese is the shit. The Infamous Gehenna rules.
@mausperson5854
@mausperson5854 Жыл бұрын
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