Explanation Of The Capcom Arcade CPS2 Hardware

[@NightSprinter]

Sure someone might've commented on this before, but I think I can explain why CPS2 boards suicide: The battery powers a little chip that holds a set of keys on the A board, and these are needed by the B board to check and give the okay to run. Think of it from Ghostbusters: board A is the Keyholder, board B is the Gatekeeper. After an hour past battery death, those keys are lost forever and renders the A board worthless.

[@benjib2691]

It's almost the correct explanation. If I remember correctly the ROM chips inside the B boards are encrypted. The decryption keys (also in the B board) are stored inside a special memory chip powered by the battery. When the battery dies, after a certain amount of time (usually between half an hour and an hour), the keys are erased from memory, and the system can't decrypt the ROMs anymore, hence the game doesn't boot. The A board is fine but the B board is dead. To revive the B board you can either : - Replace all the encrypted ROMs by their already decrypted variant. The system can then boot fine without the keys (as the content is already decrypted). - Program a specific PIC with a universal decryption key and solder it to the B board at a specific location. This enable the B board to work again and keep the original ROMs intact. - Install a Darksoft in place of the original ROM chips. The Darksoft is a FPGA-powered device similar to an everdrive (flash cartridge) for consoles, but for the CPS-2 hardware. It enables ROM files loading from an SD Card, thus you can play any CPS-2 game from a single B board.

[@alanmika2772]

those yellow ones are quite populars on Brazil, as much as the orange ones, thank you for sharing the information its a quite work. keep going.

[@neetboss]

you're such a nice helpful dude, oh my gosh. thanks so much for being around and being you.

[@moomert1]

glad my vidoes cousin help you

[@arttuy]

Thanks for a nice video. I just replaced 8 batteries from my cps b-boards today. Just one tiny detail: phoenixing IS reprogramming the eproms. So you have only two options, not three: either replace the battery every 5 years or remove the battery and reprogram the eproms (="phoenixing"). If your battery dies, you have no way of "preserving the authenticity" and can't bring the "capcom original" pcb back to life. If your battery dies, you have to reprogram the board with hacked roms.

[@npc5983]

Nice video! It worths mention nowadays you don`t need to phoenix a B board as, just in 2017, a method was developed to truly revive B boards, without the need to change the EPROMs. Of course, this method was developed after the release of this video, so there is no one to blame. Also this shows how CAPCOM nailed hardware engeneeringwise while developing the masterpeace CPS-2 is. If where not for that Street Fighter Alpha release for CPS Charger, we would manage to emulate those CPS-2 games only after 2017

[@robbystrange4772]

Been binging these videos. I recently set up my PC to work on a crt so I could play these cps2 and 3 games. So I decide to see what it would take to get the "real" thing. And wow, now im grateful for the ease of use emulators bring to this hobby.

[@issacohasi1928]

Very well explained. Thank you for sharing this. I am just starting with my Astro Baby Cabinet and everthing is new to me.

[@moomert1]

Cps2 hardware is great. Learn as much as you can.

[@moomert1]

Thanks Luke. I hope this video will be helpful to people. We gotta keep the hobby alive.

[@Blueinklingboy]

Thanks for this video! I happen to have an A board with a broken pin and was wondering if you knew anywhere that has a pinout for the connectors at the top of the board? I've heard people say you can try using B boards with no risk of damage but I just want to be careful. Thanks!

[@CRTcade]

CPS2* meant to type. The only type of board I don't own is that all in one black board, which like you said, go for some silly prices at times. I could be wrong, but from what I know it's quite a bit more difficult to have those phoenixed. I don't think Raz does those, but there is a guy on the neo forums who had done a few of them in the past.

[@moomert1]

Yes you would need a kick harness. The CPS2 board will only recognize buttons 4,5 and 6 from the kick harness

[@muskachu]

You've gained a new sub for being such a nice, helpful guy.

[@moomert1]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@CRTcade]

Great tip about the A and B boards having to be firmly pressed together, I had this issue with an Asia region motherboard not too long ago, since I didn't have an extra set of clips to hold them more tightly together, but like you mentioned in your comment, it ended up just being an issue where I didn't have the two boards pushed down firmly enough on all 4 corners.

[@CRTcade]

Great vid man. The yellow boards are really pretty uncommon to find. I've got a yellow rental Cyberbots board, which is really pretty sweet to have. One of my favorite CPS boards.

[@sltkr9876]

What I was going to do is build a arcade cab and I was going to use a old pc gaming system with mame and a front end to run it but I seem to have one deal is it cheaper to bye a fighting game like sf2 or mk3 and gut it except the monitor

[@presicion25]

Hey Moomert I was a little off its a 3025 in 1 but yes it does have CPS2 and CPS3 also

[@alltidmagnus]

and you two are doing one hell of a good job at it too!

[@presicion25]

Good video man. I saw ur comment on MAMEUI32. I use 64 because my laptop runs windows 7 on a 64 bit system. It runs the same I have over 7000 Roms on it. I also use WinKawaks to run CPS1, CPS2 and Neo Geo as well. My Super Neo 29 Candy has a 3300 in 1 Jamma system in it

[@moomert1]

Thank you for the kind words

[@sltkr9876]

Ok thanks on that I will start looking for a used sf2 cab. Now I need to decide on hardware do I run mame or Naomi Motherboard with Sega Naomi DIMM board and GD-ROM

[@sltkr9876]

I don't think I was asking you the question besides i'm going a different way i'm going to build a test bench with 2 different systems interchangeable by plugs only so you do not have to worry about me trashing any cabinets

[@Zaiyou]

Kool very informative, do you know the running price on Marvel vs Capcom for CPS2?

[@82memo82]

Very informative video buddy and thanks for your time

[@moomert1]

An easy way to hook the computer up to the monitor is to use a cga to vga convertor.

[@davidperry4013]

When the suicide battery dies back in the day before anyone was able to have the encryption ram data cracked, you send the b board to Capcom to replace the battery and restore the encryption ram data for a fee.

[@herbycarlos6794]

Do you know if there is any gameplay difference between a phoenixed board and an original? I'm much more into Neo Geo, so I have heard about gameplay speed differing between the two, but trying to find out more about this battery/phoenix bit because my wife wants a dedicated Puzzle Fighter cabinet that isn't just using a PC with MAME on it. Has anyone changed the battery setup on these so that it can use a button cell battery so that every battery change won't require de-soldering and soldering every time?

[@moomert1]

As far as gameplay speed, not that I know of. There have been many advances in resurrecting cps2 boards since the hey day of phoenixing a board. If you really want the best option, I suggest the darksoft cps2 kit. I have some videos on it. No battery required. It's not emulation. It's the real deal using the real hardware. It is pricey but it's well worth it.

[@herbycarlos6794]

@@moomert1 More to research! Thanks very much for the info!

[@moomert1]

@@herbycarlos6794 and the kit has pretty much ALL the cps2 games.

[@MoneyTreeCare]

Awesome! Thanks for posting it... I started to do videos too, but never know if I can measure up to the better stuff out there lol!

[@sltkr9876]

Ok I need some help I have decided to build a test bench I need to now what two jamma plugs I need and how to wire them to work with one Two player joystick "ATOMISWAVE MOTHER BOARD" this is one of my systems I am getting. The second is a Sega Naomi 1 & 2 Sega Naomi DIMM board and GD-ROM for the second bench

[@moomert1]

Glad my video could help

[@TheRealAkuma632]

Ok thanks! Can you do a video on how to change a CPS1 kick to CPS2 kick ? Is there a kick adaptor so I don't have un do the buttons when I go from CPS1 to CPS2 ? Any ideas where to get a good price on a kick ?

[@moomert1]

Don't have any cps1 harness for a video. Since you plan to go back and forth between cps1 and cps2, I suggest just connecting both harnesses to the buttons. Then just connect the correct harness to which ever board you intend to play.

[@Omegaknucklesaltenan]

Probably a dumb question but does the Qsound processor output audio the same through the JAMMA connector and the RCA jacks?

[@moomert1]

***** RCA jacks. YOu can change the audio settings in the game menu.

[@Runslik3Wind]

Just bought a mvc machine with a working board so glad to hear I can buy japan boards also

[@yeahbuddy666]

could you possibly make a video on how to unhook the cps2 from the jamma cabinet to switch your boards?

[@moomert1]

Sure, I will try to put the video up by this coming saturday

[@renattopaes]

The battery from my Marvel super heroes vs Street Fighter was dead, I have medium Knowledge of computers and electronic, what can I do?

[@moomert1]

You need to get your board phoenixed. Your board is officially dead and will not come back...even if you replace the battery. If you Phoenix the board, the game will once again play, and you will not need to ever worry about the battery again. Look up youtube user MitsurugiW, he might provide this service or he will be able to point you to someone who can kzbin.info/door/E66FeeCk83lhjatqFryQsA

[@AtariBorn]

So which video is your latest video?

[@gameofyou1]

The USA and JPN (blue & green) boards are compatible with each other. But which board will determine the language displayed during gameplay? Or can you change the in-game language, no matter what region boards you have?

[@moomert1]

gameofyou1 it all depends on the game. some game allow language changes

[@SuperN1ntendoChalmers]

This was a great a video. Thanks for sharing, you are a great youtuber.

[@cabintapes5785]

Hi, I just got a CPS2 motherboard and cartridge (A+B). Is it possible to connect this to my tv and controller? Any info would help. Thanks!

[@moomert1]

your best bet would be to buy a Super Gun system. or piece together a system which is an adapter for the TV, an adapter for the controller, and a power supply.

[@moomert1]

I also used WinKawaks. Right now I pretty much only use my MAME cab for 4 player games. How is the 3300 in 1? Does it run cps1 and cps2 games?

[@Seriousbomb54]

So if I got you right. If want to play a shoot'em up which has 2 players each with 3 buttons. I can use my Jamma harness and play it right away without any issues?

[@moomert1]

Jacktheavenger assuming the game IS jamma, and only uses 3 buttons, you "SHOULD " be able to play no issues. Is the game used a kick harness for whatever reason, then you will need to buy the kick harness

[@Seriousbomb54]

I see. thank you very much.

[@oldskewl81]

Nice. Just got into the cps2 hardware, great info.

[@TheCliffy007]

2:35 OCD OH SHIZZ there is dust on it!! "freaking out on the inside"

[@moomert1]

For MAME, I have always preferred MAME UI32. it's simple and easy to use. The best thing about MAME is that you can play just about any game from the 90's and before. If you want to go the pcb route, it will be more expensive.......but it will be authentic so to speak.

[@SPYDCR]

thank you so much for this video it really help me!

[@sltkr9876]

Thank's Moomer but I will need you when I get the first board is that ok

[@moomert1]

Well if you ever have any questions let me know. I always like to help get into the hobby.

[@will1867]

Would you happen to know if a website where i could purchase the special tool for the metal bolt on the A board? I've searched and searched but have had no luck. Can you help me I would appreciate it very much.

[@moomert1]

@@will1867 for the torx security screws? Should be available at any hardware store. You can also try McMaster.com

[@will1867]

@@moomert1 no there is another bolt with an engraved "C" on it besides the torx screws.

[@will1867]

@@moomert1 they call it the "capcom push pin" i guess but it doesn't come out when you push it. 😆 wondering if you know any thing about it. ( this is my first arcade purchase so i super new. And i feel like i paid to much 😒)

[@moomert1]

@@will1867 use two small flat head screwdrivers on each side and pop them out. They are not "screwed in "

[@moomert1]

Sacrifices must be made! Besides, I feel it's better to gut a dynamo rather then gut a dedicated much nicer cab.

[@portalsofmadnes]

What does the term Phoenixed mean?? I have a Japanese MvC1 arcade can i play a blue american CPS2 game on it?please help.

[@moomert1]

portalsofmadnes green and blue boards can be used with each other

[@portalsofmadnes]

thank you

[@moomert1]

It is cheaper. It's probably also easier since everything is already built. I would look for a street fighter type dynamo cab.

[@deep6arcade]

Sweet video!

[@leniwy7450]

Thanks for this video

[@moomert1]

glad you found it usefull

[@TheRealAkuma632]

Hey man great video! I love the color charts, helped me out a lot with the board colors. I was wondering if I could get some help. I have a SF2 cab (CPS1) and I was to play some CPS2 games on it. How can I make that happen? What do I need to do? I'm a noob and thought you would be the most helpful. Any help would be great! Thanks again! Keep on fighting !

[@moomert1]

You need to buy a cps2 kick harness. That is the only thing you will need besides the cps2 game

[@Galdelico]

Hi dude, very old video, but still, I hope you can see this message and give me some clue. :) A friend of mine just started collecting arcade boards, and he begun with a couple of CPS2 kits. He got nice looking sets, with the B boards of course, and also all kinds of paper material, stickers and whatnot. That said, he realized that only one game game with the A board as well, so his question - which I ask here on his behalf - is: are arcade CPS2 kits supposed to come with both A and B boards, or the actual games only provide the latter? It's mainly for collecting purposes, since he can actually run both games with his current setup. Thanks alot M, take care!

[@moomert1]

Well you need an A broad and B board to play the games. I think the kit only came with the B board and operators had to buy the A board separately.

[@Galdelico]

Great, thanks man. Yeah, that was clear. He only wanted to know whether or not a CPS 2 set come with the B board only, because he's also a collector, so - in case - he would've bought a loose A board for the game he got and that didn't come with it, just to complete it. Thanks again! ^_-

[@bundymc502]

Great video

[@bundymc502]

Did you ever do one on the battery replacement?

[@moomert1]

Probably around the $125 mark

[@eurocartuchos]

the street 90s .tinham a cartoes.quando finished the game machine ejecting the collectible card

[@moomert1]

I made this video hoping it will help people.

[@moomert1]

For atomiswaVe you can go here wiki.arcadeotaku(dot)com/images/9/9e/Atomiswave_manual.pdf Not sure about Naomi though. Maybe sega-Naomi(dot)com

[@jeremym9011]

I like the CPS-2 but I don't like it at the same time due to the amount of fighting games.

[@theusbgamer2981]

Also one question a guy is selling 3 games(Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo Marvel Super Heroes Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter)a board+1 b board for 60 dollar NZD or 19.06USD is it worth it?

[@theusbgamer2981]

+TheUsbGamer 100 percent working all tested

[@theusbgamer2981]

+TheUsbGamer and fucking has Phoenixed so it will last forever

[@portalsofmadnes]

What does Phoenixed mean??

[@moomert1]

If I can help I will. If not, I will try to help you find someone who might be able to help.

[@moomert1]

THanks. Means a lot

[@moomert1]

MAME will give you a wide range of games to play. With Naomi you will e limited on what you can play.

[@ClunkerSlim]

For the love of god don't tell him to trash a dynamo cab!

[@moomert1]

Send me a message through my channel page. I will answer any queations you have

[@moomert1]

Ha. I think Luke does a great job all by himself.

[@moomert1]

I like MAME because I only play 2d games on MAME.

[@misterdude206]

you left handed? because i write like shit too. haha. thanks for the explainations in this.

[@moomert1]

I will admit, there are many douchebags in the arcade community. On the other side, there are many great people in the community. The reason the KLOV registration is a hassle is because of a certain online bully and scammer. You may know who I am talking about.

[@ClunkerSlim]

Ugh, the arcade gaming community is the worst, and for more reasons then I can sum up here. The hyperspin community is basically pay only, the registration at KLOV is like passing a DOD background check, mame has devolved into a terabyte database of useless information. You know the fat Billy-Mitchell-Suck-Up Kid in King of Kong? That's how I picture the entire arcade community. Maybe I'm just too pissed off at hyperspin right now to be objective though

[@xboxmodder02]

I dont know why your fanboying MAME for when it is shit for running ALL 3D hardware like model 2 naomi ect.MAME also doesnt run lindenburgh games like metal slug 6 and guilty gear XX at all.The reason why MAME is shit for running 3D arcade hardware is because it does everything in software only,which is why games like tekken 2 look like crap on it running at crappy framerates.MAME is only good for the 2D stuff only.Then again it doesnt support the neo geo in console mode.Or the neo geo CD.

[@xtremegold2950]

a waste of money...if the battery dies ..capcom did a shitty job with the boards ...thats why i prefer the neo geo aes and mvs..real hardware

[@jeremym9011]

How do you feel about Taito's F3 arcade hardware?

[@tkdbboy]

You can revive dead boards