Explanation: this happened to Grimes @ Coachella ( beat match sync error with doubled bpm on cdjs )

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ESKEI83

ESKEI83

2 ай бұрын

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@valev5259
@valev5259 2 ай бұрын
haha nice explanation. little correction though: its sped up by 100% (doubled in speed) increasing it by 200% would put it to 3x speed. maybe you wanted to say it put it on 200% speed :)
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
you are correct. its 200% of the original tempo is what i wanted to say. it pitched up by 100% .... thanks for pointing that out :)
@chaytonaldridge3388
@chaytonaldridge3388 Ай бұрын
yk what he meant smart ass smh good video bro
@pharkasj
@pharkasj Ай бұрын
There is a setting for this in traktor 3. u can dobule the detected bpm with 1 click.
@CmlDexter
@CmlDexter 2 ай бұрын
That's not a bug, that's a feature to detect fake DJs from real DJs
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 S same as Quantize? When you turn it off the half/double function for loops becomes a train wreck button?
@paenic-
@paenic- Ай бұрын
I searched for that kind of comment who would entertain me a lot but I didn't need to search long ....that comment deserves a million likes hahahaha
@JazzyBification
@JazzyBification Ай бұрын
Amen
@oceanpier
@oceanpier Ай бұрын
And how successful are you in your life? Any invitations to play at Coachella? No, didn't think so.
@CmlDexter
@CmlDexter Ай бұрын
​@@oceanpier LOL you simping for some mom that has a kid with Elon Musk??? You are asking two unrelated questions. I am doing very well in my career in tech in a MAANG size company ... I didn't marry a multibillionaire and fake my way to the top to get a show at coachella like your homegirl nor it has been my aspiration....
@tmright18
@tmright18 Ай бұрын
So, 2024 DJ's everybody.... "sync BUTTON" too complex for them :lol:
@thetruth00
@thetruth00 Ай бұрын
As soon as you move the pitch fader they will "unsync".. it's not a bug lol
@ravecaverecords2279
@ravecaverecords2279 Ай бұрын
My guy knows
@skymeyer
@skymeyer Ай бұрын
That's no bug, it actually prevents beat syncers from unintentionally jumping out of the sync. Everything through Pro DJ Link has one master from which key and/or beat sync can be performed. The "lock" is there when masters auto swap based on faders/EQ or manual swap over. Easily to overcome. The poster of this video isn't running the latest firmware either, it clearly displays a warning what to do exactly (put tempo to exact one + displays a grey additional reference one). Bottom line is Grimes doesn't understand the equipment properly. BPMs also don't magically "double" on CDJs. That's an error done during analysis. If one relies on that, they better check/correct where needed and lock the analysis. Shows clearly she gave her set to somebody who threw it in Rekordbox and relied on track analysis without verifying anything or using incorrect analysis settings. So yes, she has no clue how the equipment and software works, apparently she heavily relies on the technology not being able to simply beat match, and no it's not a software bug.
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
the bug I am describing is that it's not taking halftime BPMs into consideration for the next most logical pitch adjustment. that it seems to be 'locked' is just a symptom of the glitch because the range has to be set to wide and the actual values are so far from each other that it makes it almost impossible to get out of it. its not an auto analyse bug, its a glitch inside the players. In Export mode and in Performance mode the double bpm glitch is not happening while syncing but on the players. My tracks are analysed correctly and the beatgrid is in place. the problem is inside the player, not considering halftime correctly for a useful pitch adjustment. just imagine you want a hip hop acapella with 90 bpm on a dnb track with 175 bpm. the software would adjust just a few % to get it right, but the player will almost double the tempo for no reason.
@skymeyer
@skymeyer Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 if it's not an analysis thing you're trying to describe from Grimes's botched set, how is it that it "worked' all of a sudden the second weekend for the same prepared set ? Been playing on CDJs for +15 years I've never seen that kind of behavior not in export mode, not in HID nor on USB export. Then again I don't use beat sync, maybe on a very rare occasion. Mixing a 90 into 175 works perfectly on wide mode which allows +-100%. Need more ? No can do, know your equipment. If you mix such a big bpm difference and can't get it right audibly, use the phase meter instead of wave form. Or easier, use a (live) sampler instead like the DJS-1000 ... I double checked on my 3000's what your showing in the video, try updating your firmware, that's not what mine show.
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
you should learn to watch, listen and read before you type brother. all you said might be correct but has nothing to do with the context of this video. Grimes had obviously wrong analyzed tracks or tracks with halftime/double time values. and she was using sync. and because of the glitch described in the video while using sync, she got tracks double the tempo because the sync bug on the CDJs is speeding tracks up by up to 100% this behavior is a bug imo because the proper way to sync tracks that have such a high bpm difference is to consider halftime into it and just pitch the tempo for the smallest pitch percentage possible. I even talked to PioneerDJ about it and they said that the behavior of the player is indeed not ideal and may have caused the high bpm problems between one and another track. sure - she could have been prepared better but the thing is … if you try to sync two tracks with halftime & double time tempo in Export mode it will pitch it to the closest percentage. on CDJ it will pitch to the absolute bpm value. it doesn’t have the same behavior within their own eco system and that’s why it’s considered a glitch. if you don’t use sync you might have never noticed it and that’s understandable when you’re a DJ with 15 years of experience. But there are people out there using sync and the way it behaves when half or double time tunes are been synced could be improved.
@kennizuka758
@kennizuka758 Ай бұрын
serato recognizes double time and halftime properly while cdjs dont. i think thats all what eskei wants to be fixed
@Sound_slash
@Sound_slash 2 ай бұрын
This is why people need to know their tracks well
@GatochanBolivia
@GatochanBolivia Ай бұрын
Imagine old DJs (real ones) complaining about this kind of stuff XD
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
not sure how old you have to be to considered real 😂 but either way this bug on the players is mad annoying when you want to mix between multiple genres
@sublime_
@sublime_ 2 ай бұрын
DJs should learn to beat match
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
That’s true! but I still think software and hardware should eliminate unorthodox behavior to reduce the chance of a total train wreck. especially when sync is working as expected in all of their software but on the players it does this crazy speed up double tempo glitch 🤣
@d-bro-sector36
@d-bro-sector36 Ай бұрын
That's like saying car drivers need to learn how to ride a horse. Sure, it's a skill to beat match without syncing, but it's not about the DJ, it's about the music. And using sync makes the mix better and leaves room for other things to do while playing.
@NeeaK
@NeeaK Ай бұрын
Im interested how you fix this problem?🤔 Thank you for this! You are first one i find who don't just insult Grimes, you try to show what maybe happened to her!❤❤ Respect this and this help understand her frustration.😊 I hope ppl remember Grimes have panic and anxiety too and i feel she got too overhelming panic attack when things f*cked up at Coachella and couldn't think correctly.
@AlexInvar
@AlexInvar Ай бұрын
To unsync back to original tempo you need to slide past the current bpm or press tempo lock/reset button. It's basically like how midi pickup mode works
@8Marko24
@8Marko24 Ай бұрын
No, she was obviously wasted.
@NeeaK
@NeeaK Ай бұрын
@@AlexInvar Ok im not DJ so i dont know much about that but i saw panic in Grimes..😅 Happy she made fun of her fail.😁
@NeeaK
@NeeaK Ай бұрын
@@8Marko24 Well maybe she was somebit more awake, maybe not, or something else. Dont jugde anyone for that. Many EDM music maker use drg and so as electronic music listeners.
@DaBeatmasta
@DaBeatmasta Ай бұрын
No need. Just use your ears. This why DJs should learn Earbeatmatching
@JeffReams
@JeffReams Ай бұрын
That was the first skill i learned but once you show the “sync” button, everyone’s a DJ.
@mikee.
@mikee. Ай бұрын
Gatekeeping
@maxrozmiarek5326
@maxrozmiarek5326 2 ай бұрын
At the verrrrrrry least just reload the track 🤣 and if u can’t beat match (somehow still made it to Coachella) say literally anything else in the mic and drop that sh*t on the one💀 the crowd was cheering for some reason every time it went silent - orrrr do that damn chase and status backspin idk what those Demon noises were tho
@Sool101
@Sool101 Ай бұрын
Love that Chase & Status set but I recorded it an cut out almost all of the rewinds, it's just so much better now without.
@remixedcat
@remixedcat Ай бұрын
she should have just kept it playing
@DJDaimyoo
@DJDaimyoo Ай бұрын
Beat syncers 😅 switch the tempo range to wide, and you can change the BPM again (it’s not a bug) or else stop using the sync button 🫡
@KrustyMillennial
@KrustyMillennial 22 күн бұрын
So, her issue was using the sync button...
@andywruk6344
@andywruk6344 Ай бұрын
Your not a DJ until you've styled out a complete balls up live 😂
@KingOfTheWindmills
@KingOfTheWindmills Ай бұрын
😂What happened to her was what we use to call a reality check.
@FLMSTR
@FLMSTR 8 күн бұрын
On Denon SC5000M you press and hold the knob on the right and you can X2 or /2 the tempo on the fly.
@JulinKastana
@JulinKastana 3 күн бұрын
tips: if you accidentally do this mistake, just press the "reset tempo button"
@oceanpier
@oceanpier Ай бұрын
Nice to see someone generous enough to see things with kindness.
@TaffruYT
@TaffruYT Ай бұрын
Feels bad man all the hate n shit grimes b getting, she got it though she’ll come back better 🙏🙏
@GreenR1744
@GreenR1744 2 ай бұрын
yeah but that's what headphones and mixing by ear is for lol
@cotyhoepfner9380
@cotyhoepfner9380 Ай бұрын
it’s not a bug. turn off sync. and move the tempo down in wide. then change it back to +10 once you set the correct tempo. helps unlock it from that tempo
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
How can this be not a bug or glitch when it’s not considering halftime tempo when syncing two tracks? Imagine you want to mix a hip hop acapella 90bpm with Drum & Bass on 175 bpm and it speeds up the acapella almost 100%. that’s just absolutely stupid behavior and it doesnt do it in Rekordbox performance nor in export mode.
@louprimo6062
@louprimo6062 2 ай бұрын
You can’t unsync a sink buttonon a CD DJ that is crazy. You can do it on any Pioneer controller.
@D_A86
@D_A86 2 ай бұрын
I've been putting off learning Rekordbox for months now, but after seeing clips of her nightmare set I'm actively forcing myself to learn it 😅
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
It’s way more complicated than Serato imo and offers a lot of surprises 😆 that’s why I stick with bringing my laptop and using Serato. Feels like to DJ with a broken arm to just play with usb
@D_A86
@D_A86 2 ай бұрын
@eskei83 After playing around on Rekordbox for a while, it does feel way more complex. But considering Pioneer owns both programs and supply setups everywhere, you'd think there would be an option to use either program built into the decks as standard
@matthewjswider
@matthewjswider 2 ай бұрын
^^^^this comment right here! Rekordbox is filled with issues, little quirks, and most of them are useless. The only thing that made rekordbox great for DJ’s through the years was that it hi lights the tracks that work with the current song playing (work with = in key). Which made for DJ’s who sounded better harmonically than serato DJ’s who didn’t understand music theory, or didn’t use the Camelot. Well, a decade has gone by since I found out about Camelot. Pretty much everyone uses it now. So there’s audibly no difference between a serato DJ and a rekordbox DJ. Just delete the program already AT.
@JulinKastana
@JulinKastana 3 күн бұрын
that wasn't a bug. if u want to unsync the tempo, just move the fader to the current tempo.
@carolinemerciermusic
@carolinemerciermusic 2 ай бұрын
Reload or adjust manually? How long has this bug been going on though?
@Saesoek
@Saesoek 2 ай бұрын
Only respect vinyl djs
@odeca8121
@odeca8121 2 ай бұрын
As vinyl dj I disagree. Stick to what you feel comfortable. Also stop spreading these vinyl only fetish because its making record prices go way too much up.😂
@Saesoek
@Saesoek Ай бұрын
@@odeca8121 I wonder if Paris Hilton had any problems using the sync button lol ,
@odeca8121
@odeca8121 Ай бұрын
@@Saesoek idk, probably? Lol. In any case, for real I think Vinyl is overrated even tho I love it. Any cunt with a bit of training can beatmatch two records decently, so it all comes down to the collectionism and dedication rather than "skills"
@oceanpier
@oceanpier Ай бұрын
Change is scary for some.
@JeffReams
@JeffReams Ай бұрын
Never had that problem with vinyl.
@jadarealest
@jadarealest 2 ай бұрын
Okay so she couldn't turn it off and train wrecked that one transition (no big deal that happens) but on the next song load does it go away?
@konkavsty
@konkavsty 2 ай бұрын
As a Software developer it’s insane how one of the largest DJ Software company have not noticed (or cared) about what essentially is a huge bug. You should at least be able to toggle the sync button and undo the double time flip
@matthewjswider
@matthewjswider 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure if you hit the shift button and the sync it does exactly that. I sold my 3000’s or I would test the theory.
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
i found out that you can "un-sync" by pressing the tempo reset button next to the pitch fader, but if you do it and sync is still on it will drop the other track as well. the behaviour is super strange. imo it should not ignore halftime tempo tracks and sync to the closest phase matching pitch percentage, like it does in all of their dj apps on computers (incl. Rekordbox Export mode for USBs)
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
@@matthewjswider by shift you mean the "call" button next to the hot cues? i will try it in the studio
@matthewjswider
@matthewjswider 2 ай бұрын
@@eskei83 idk why but I’m remembering incorrectly. I keep thinking of the shift button on the mixer. I’m retarded. Lol
@matthewjswider
@matthewjswider 2 ай бұрын
@@eskei83 I remember now. I was thinking of using the s11 when connected to the cdj. Really connected to anything, because you can use the sync buttons in the screen. But I’m certain she wasn’t using said mixer. Sorry for the confusion.
@freddyreeks3712
@freddyreeks3712 20 күн бұрын
They can't even mix with the sync button... Keep the vinyl alive !!!
@mholliday3476
@mholliday3476 29 күн бұрын
It’s also easily avoided many different ways. Two being if you can manually mix whether that’s beatmatching or even quick drop mixing. Even if you encounter this issue you should be able to correct it quickly. Like many have said disengage sync and manually moving the temp to proper level works as well. Relying only beatmatch and improperly uploaded files is on the artist. Dont feel sorry for someone getting paid big $ and not being able to do the simplest tasks.
@DJRobinSkouteris
@DJRobinSkouteris 2 ай бұрын
So? you can go inside and double the tempo or divide it in half while the track plays. Or if you cant mix them, you can just echo one out and press play on the next one. Its not a big deal. Most people wouldnt even notice. Its better than throwing a tantrum and becoming internet's biggest coachella FAIL ever.
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
That’s a fact! Nevertheless I think PioneerDJ could make their sync feature better by taking halftime bpms into consideration for finding the optimal pitch to bring tracks in phase. but overall you’re right
@DJ_Patent
@DJ_Patent Ай бұрын
I love the laugh here. In Rekordbox, couldn’t she have turned down the volume on one track, unclicked sync on both tracks, and then have used the Tempo fader to go above/below the synced Tempo value and then slide back to the desired Tempo on the track out of whack? Seems to me what I did in an instance with sync gone wrong. I avoid sync know all I can, but sometimes if track is slipping or don’t like how my loop is looping I’ll use it.
@melatronuk3701
@melatronuk3701 2 ай бұрын
An experienced Dj could have made it work or used fx for a drop out
@Dj_OLD_MATE
@Dj_OLD_MATE Ай бұрын
100
@mercerfamilyadventures4613
@mercerfamilyadventures4613 2 ай бұрын
I gave up djing (1210s) dnb/ jungle when cdjs came out. The whole game just lost its art form. If she had the skills she'd manualy adjust the speed n drop it in. Amateur
@crinap_6nap168
@crinap_6nap168 Ай бұрын
The problem Is that Is not a bug Is Simply a feature that Pioneer doesn t already put in their decks
@sickk0073
@sickk0073 Ай бұрын
So sorry for her why??? If your a Dj you should be able to mix without auto-sync, use ur hear and do your thing
@iamjesskingsley
@iamjesskingsley Ай бұрын
Honestly, it's weird that she had this ONE show where things are going wrong and people are taking notice of it and calling her a fake DJ. Her show at glastonbury was smooth and so was her show at EDC. Yet the only time some of y'all happened to notice her is when things go wrong???
@remixedcat
@remixedcat Ай бұрын
she had different people manage that and at EDC hana helped her a lot
@mishasavage256
@mishasavage256 27 күн бұрын
I think its weird that none of this came up in a sound check
@SteelMags
@SteelMags Ай бұрын
If you can't mix without sync you're not a good dj.
@almalava
@almalava Ай бұрын
You can change it in settings of rekordbox, so cdjs doesn’t have it, am I right?
@dyrewinterfrost
@dyrewinterfrost Ай бұрын
She had a dj set before and that's not her first concert! Soooo i think that was a mastermind marketing, put her back in the major social media. Separate her from elon downhill era 😂😂😂😂 girl is a genius in doing tricks
@tramadolproductions
@tramadolproductions Ай бұрын
just set pitch range to wide and move pitch fader it will go back fine
@sanderbeer
@sanderbeer Ай бұрын
pioneer dj can't fix dj skills ;-)
@audax81
@audax81 Ай бұрын
U should offer her a 3style 101 bootcamp… I wouldn’t say it’s a bug in the first place. And it only explains the issue once…
@CraigMander
@CraigMander Ай бұрын
talent at the touch of a button.. what is the world coming to. music industry if fcuked
@thehectonator9677
@thehectonator9677 Ай бұрын
It's the fake djs step off button
@Aronblack360
@Aronblack360 Ай бұрын
What are the tracks you are using
@haveheart2630
@haveheart2630 Ай бұрын
You can shift sync and cancel it on most controllers or just reload the song. Most DJ software will allow you to lock the sync too. It’s more of a rookie DJ mistake. You learn this stuff after a few gigs of messing up.
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
yeah i know. CDJ doesnt have this function tho.
@renatobc4
@renatobc4 Ай бұрын
its not a bug, it is that way so the tempo is locked there and if you want to go back just do it manually with the pitch fader, but the video was sarcasm 😂
@Dj_OLD_MATE
@Dj_OLD_MATE Ай бұрын
How is that a bug????turn sync off, reset trmpo. N use pitch fader to beatmatch by ear...not pioneers issue... if she cant beat match wyf is doing in stage
@djchriss31
@djchriss31 Ай бұрын
yes, u're right!! look at this guy....he press the buttons randomly....:))) lol..not looking at the message on the screen
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
you simply don't get it brother... the issue is that their sync has a glitch causing trouble even when you beat matched perfectly or you had correct analysed files. if you have to correct analysed files, but one is considered halftime and the other one is double time and sync is enabled, it doubles the tempo of the halftime track, where it only adjust to the closest matching pitch value. if the sync on the players wouldnt be so glitchy, even doubled bpms would have worked with the sync. i am not defending her, she should have been prepared better and know how to dj without sync. but i still think pioneer dj should also do their homework and not have such a bug in their players causing such a train wreck... in their software it works but not on their players, so i consider it a glitch/bug.
@Dj_OLD_MATE
@Dj_OLD_MATE Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 on the 3000s?? or in rekordbox... cos i aint never come across this problem, im runnen 2 2000s n 2 2000 nxs's, have run em in hid mode on rekordbox n aint had this issue
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
@@Dj_OLD_MATE when you are using HID you wont notice it, because its happening only in standalone mode and not when using software like Rekordbox Performance Mode (or even Export Mode) or Serato. It's just happening when you play stuff off a USB. even analysed right it can't sync halftime with double time and i think it should.
@Dj_OLD_MATE
@Dj_OLD_MATE Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 im actully trying to recreate this situation atm an di cant seem to hahaha
@garry8305
@garry8305 Ай бұрын
It's not a bug if you know how to beatmatch.
@saent_bass
@saent_bass Ай бұрын
its not a bug, there is a setting in RB for that.
@DJ_DEE440
@DJ_DEE440 Ай бұрын
This is an easy fix live with the time divide button BEFORE it happened
@karlbyrne589
@karlbyrne589 Ай бұрын
If she had them beatmatched already then why would she hit the sync button?
@kristinaarndt6132
@kristinaarndt6132 Ай бұрын
It wouldn’t be a bug if people knew how to match the tracks and use headphones
@stwolma
@stwolma Ай бұрын
Sync is a completely useless feature. Seriously, beat matching is not so daunting a task that it prevents you from using effects and loops to a mix
@coyunotattooer8597
@coyunotattooer8597 Ай бұрын
If the bpm is halftime the tempo just do the math and match the first kick of one tune and the other
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
yes. Sure. That’s how it works 😊but it’s kinda wild that if you use sync it is messing up everything by doubling the tempo for no reason.
@jonathanbetancourt5104
@jonathanbetancourt5104 Ай бұрын
And that’s why you should never use sync button!😭😂
@hadleigh01
@hadleigh01 Ай бұрын
I thought she said the bpm was saying 130 something but she knows its 173?? so not half, just not analysed??
@aleczaninotto3440
@aleczaninotto3440 2 ай бұрын
Or just adjust the pitch wheel manually
@TheKiddOnDrums
@TheKiddOnDrums 2 ай бұрын
Why are you calling it a bug? It’s weird to me how DJs expected to have less and less responsibility every decade. Even as a drummer, I would assume a DJ has to visually check the temp as they are being understood on the screen. Right?
@amigow0306
@amigow0306 Ай бұрын
This is not a nightmare, this is a lack of skill and simple math
@ae364
@ae364 2 ай бұрын
Should have been paying attention instead of dancing on the table in a kitty cat mask.
@lalalanidani
@lalalanidani Ай бұрын
In other words... if you don't know how to beat match...
@as10o5
@as10o5 Ай бұрын
I’m curious what a DJ should do at this point. Can you make a clip of the solution? Thanks
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
just do it manually without sync 😂 just as we always did. be aware that the bug exist and it can go wrong. If you keep it in mind you’re safe
@DJFreaksoul
@DJFreaksoul 2 ай бұрын
Its not a bug, the dj should actually check if the tracks are half-tempo or original tempo before playing it. Rekordbox its a good tool for that. And she could probably knew that if she uses sync to a half tempo to a original tempo wont work, i mean i never played in Coachella and who am i... But thats the basics.
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
i agree with you to a certain point. the preparation is key and super important. but why is it that if you load two tracks with half/double time in Rekordbox (export or performance mode, doesnt matter) and Sync works perfectly fine and tracks wont be sped up or slowed down like crazy, but on their player it goes crazy when hitting sync? its inconsistent between their preparation software and their flagship players and that is something they should fix in my opinion.
@rafaelortiz9335
@rafaelortiz9335 Ай бұрын
So she got caught using the sync 😊button 😝
@KDB-DJ
@KDB-DJ 2 ай бұрын
So she couldn’t do the basic then….
@BOSIOdnb
@BOSIOdnb Ай бұрын
quite simply just don’t use sync, god gave you ears for a reason
@andreacoppini
@andreacoppini 2 ай бұрын
Um.. You seriously don’t know how this works? When you turn on beat sync, it will match the speed of the master deck to this deck, but when you turn it off it won’t go back to the original tempo automatically. This is on purpose so that if you turn it off by mistake your track won’t go out of sync. To revert back to original tempo you have to touch the pitch fader and pitch up / down manually while beat sync is turned off. Wtf? Nobody knows this?
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
I know how it works bro. the thing is that the way it syncs those two tracks together isn’t very smart. the two tracks have basically the same tempo but their bpms are half/double. so if the sync on the players would be so smart like sync on their rb software, it wouldn’t pitch one track up by almost +100%, instead it would just made the closest pitch adjustment to bring both tracks in phase. 2 or 3 % in my case. but the players sync to absolute bpm values pitching up to double the speed. that’s the bug/glitch I’m talking about. and the thing with the glitch is that it changes the pitch fader to wide, as you can see in the video and you have to go back soooo much that the fader is not long enough to even do it or if you catch it up, the fader will be in such a weird position that the track will be super slow or fast and sounds wild bringing it back to normal. Overall it’s really confusing and not intuitive. especially because it works different in their Rekordbox software. So I believe there should be a firmware update or something to consider halftime tracks into the tempo sync on the players. Not only in export mode to avoid such drastic pitch changes while syncing.
@andreacoppini
@andreacoppini Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 it’s syncing whatever inputs it’s given. If you analyze the track in rekordbox and it got analyzed with the wrong bpm (happens often when it’s not a straight 4 kicks on the beat dance track), whoever is analyzing it should catch it and correct it by entering the bpm manually.. As for your pitch comment - yeah you don’t know how it works. The pitch fader is absolute, so if it was on +1% before you hit beat sync, then pitch went to -200% because of the beat sync, you disable beat sync and move the pitch fader very slightly, and the track will go back to -1%
@unitedtillidie1799
@unitedtillidie1799 Ай бұрын
In other words it's cheating! Learn to beat match by ear on Vinyl Turntables then you can play with these toys to make it easier, but first Learn the absolute BASICS
@jenkem69
@jenkem69 Ай бұрын
Any bug should be fixed lol
@wlosiuol
@wlosiuol Ай бұрын
No, they don't need to fix it! She needs to learn to beat match by ear like a real DJ. Hell, at the very least should could have manually matched it with the pitch slider🙄. She'd be screwed mixing on a pair of 1200s.
@itstony5734
@itstony5734 Ай бұрын
She should fix it by learning to beat match
@unitedtillidie1799
@unitedtillidie1799 Ай бұрын
What's happened is ,she's been proven to be nothing but a fake Instagram/Tiktok wannabe Dj that should be made to learn to beat match by ear on Vinyl Turntables not these fake imitation cheating things that she still couldn't work. Was the sync button broken? Stop defending this fraud and I just hope 90% of the supposedly BIG NAME DJS are found out and proven to be button pressers and not Djs!
@thusmo1661
@thusmo1661 21 күн бұрын
just don't use auto-sync
@marksaguindel1903
@marksaguindel1903 2 ай бұрын
Sync button dj, 😂
@AmyB369
@AmyB369 17 күн бұрын
Insane to mix tracks with suck a huge BPM difference when you do not even know the basic fundamentals of mixing
@eskei83
@eskei83 16 күн бұрын
They literally have no huge difference in bpm if the CDJ would be smart enough to understand half/double time 😂
@djdojy8548
@djdojy8548 Ай бұрын
Loop d1 and reload d2🎉
@TommWayfarer
@TommWayfarer Ай бұрын
What about Knowing how to really DJ?
@matej5775
@matej5775 2 ай бұрын
On coachella? Good, doubt anyone noticed lol
@dick8997
@dick8997 2 ай бұрын
So shes just not a dj
@jonathanclyburn699
@jonathanclyburn699 Ай бұрын
No they should not fix it because if people don't know how to DJ they shouldn't be trying to sync Beats
@DjMahveL
@DjMahveL 2 ай бұрын
Nahh reality check she should of figure it out on the spot or actually work in her set in rekordbox so all the bpm shoud be correct
@nouseforaname
@nouseforaname 14 күн бұрын
Thats abig over sight. Its easy to fix in the software or just actually beat match like a dj. *Ahem
@MIKEDIAMONDZ
@MIKEDIAMONDZ Ай бұрын
What do actualy dj do ? ... 😂... no wonder people are fedup with them . .
@balivar1234
@balivar1234 2 ай бұрын
Easy without any explanation: she is not a dj she don’t know how to dj.
@djmattiapascal5669
@djmattiapascal5669 2 ай бұрын
Pioneer closed 3 months ago 😂😂😂
@spinster123
@spinster123 Ай бұрын
it's okay to use sync like DJ Jazzy Jeff said, look it up, but a real DJ would prep learn and analyze their playlist, who hands off that to someone you don't know??? I don't know any DJs who let someone else setup thier playlist, that is all on her!!!!!
@AlexCid365
@AlexCid365 2 ай бұрын
Pioneer can’t teach people how to beat match.
@eskei83
@eskei83 2 ай бұрын
its not about teaching, its about a glitchy behaviour of a feature that works perfectly fine in their preparation software rekordbox but not on their players.
@lordbutler482
@lordbutler482 Ай бұрын
Real DJs use turntables 😎
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
yes. and played their last large gig 5 years ago because no new music is released on single vinyls no more 👍
@KOGIMIGOK
@KOGIMIGOK Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 are you real? every single day techno music is released on vinyl
@bigvalyeti
@bigvalyeti Ай бұрын
It’s because artists are more and more mediocre. And people can enjoy mediocracy which is a real issue
@carlgoldsmith5444
@carlgoldsmith5444 Ай бұрын
The only bug is called being entitled and not knowing what you are doing.
@fatuda
@fatuda 2 ай бұрын
Load the track again.
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 Ай бұрын
Just use denon 😩🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@paenic-
@paenic- Ай бұрын
Thats the punishment of god if you are that famous and use the sync button
@asylumDAYS
@asylumDAYS 22 күн бұрын
Grimes = fake dj
@dnbpimaz2dnbpimaz227
@dnbpimaz2dnbpimaz227 Ай бұрын
Fake djs... woke ones!!! Long live the underground!!! Danny tenaglia dj vibe pete tong etc etc gave their lifes to the movement snd this trash new era will ruined it all. Cringe dj god
@CraigMander
@CraigMander Ай бұрын
she could learn some talent / skill maybe?
@kurbicksan4917
@kurbicksan4917 Ай бұрын
Basically you do fake music period.
@oceanpier
@oceanpier Ай бұрын
Misogyny much!
@yoannp.8511
@yoannp.8511 Ай бұрын
looool, big noob i ever seen
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
you just looked in the mirror and posted here to let us know?
@yoannp.8511
@yoannp.8511 Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 I have been mixing and scratching for over 20 years, I think I have the right to give my opinion. Her dj set is a lack of respect towards all the DJs and the public. I hear you laughing in the video who are you kidding? No beef dude
@eskei83
@eskei83 Ай бұрын
@@yoannp.8511 cool 😎 same here, +20y in the game as well. the video is about a glitch on the players that caused some of her problems. She should have prepared her set better, no doubt but I still think pioneer should fix their equipment so stuff like this don’t happen.
@yoannp.8511
@yoannp.8511 Ай бұрын
@@eskei83 I agree with you, the real problem is that everyone wants and can mix with the SYNC button without actually listening to the music and know how to mix 2 disks with the ears. The organization of the festival was also not professional, no one came to help her.
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