Explorations of the Mind: Intuition with Daniel Kahneman

[@rynox77]

Thinking, Fast & Slow changed my outlook on how the world works, but more interestingly, changed my outlook on how my mind works.

[@soccom8341576]

We really have a lot more in common than we admit. And until we admit that, we'll continue to classify people and fight each other.

[@dnimon936]

This work is incomplete, he perfectly described two thirds of two psychological divisions, but has missed the third psychological faculty and it's divisions altogether. Still i never thought i'd see the day when modern psychology, driven by excellent observation, came so far. I hope his work has been noticed and further development of these ideas results.............nice job!!

[@azharoslan]

4:24 awesomeness begins here folks. welcome.

[@azharoslan]

***** thanks

[@camaples]

Always have to have a damned intro. Thanks man

[@zulkhaidirkadir]

azharoslan 7

[@najmasultana3736]

Thx dude

[@bethbartlett5692]

Academics w/ their ego - leave the trails to be blazed by the Academically Balanced, whom still possess the excitement stimulated by - admittedly not knowing - and open to ALL the variable possibilities... Those - I admire.

[@MonkeyPrinciples]

I enjoyed this lecture immensely. It is ripe with good ideas worth thinking about.

[@AlexanderNixonArtHistory]

SUPERB! Much to think about.... GO SYSTEM 2!!!

[@fergoesdayton]

System 2 is over-rated.

[@PavelSTL]

what are you guys talking about? I thought this was a great and insightful presentation! I'm glad I didn't pay attention to your comments and decided to watch it anyway.

[@mulheron1]

The complexity of the interaction of our 5 senses can not be answered by the simplicity of a 6 th sense, to say you missed the point of this lecture is an understatement.

[@1971SuperLead]

@RUSSKAYAG I agree with Cayce on this. The mind created the body. The body is a representation of our thoughts. The whole world is in fact a representation of our thoughts, beliefs, ideas, etc.

[@RUSSKAYAG]

Every single cell in a human body has a mind portion meaning it can be controlled-by thought. Cayce said that any physical disorder is a consequence of sin. You can repair it by a positive thought and self forgiveness. Any life situation, whether in business or personal relationship keeps on repeating until a lesson is learnt. Accept that situation, walk away with love, not anger- that life program will be de-coded.

[@FUNCLEJ0E]

@ReligiousSkeptic It is by initiation of your heart, that you even began to ask me, / comment- yet, you ignore that moment, to conclude and attempt to tell me how I think. It's rather amazing. Peace.

[@PavelSTL]

Yes, there are some simple statistical models that do better at predictions than experts, albeit in certain domains. Are you saying that's wrong??? BTW, Kahneman is not the only psychologist who suggests an *analogy* between the dual (limbic system / prefrontal cortex) model and Freudian id / superego. What's wrong with that? Nobody's claiming we need to apply Freudian model per se to study brain and behaviour. Cheers.

[@theboombody]

I considered attempting to come up with a system based on counter-intuitive axioms to start with, but it's harder than I thought. Things like, when you add the same numbers in a different order, you get a different sum, depending on the order you add the numbers. I've seen that property apply to other things, but not to numbers themselves. I wonder what would happen if we tried using such an idea as a starting point for a new mathematical system.

[@redgemon]

12:17 illusion of what? "Validity"

[@samu141082]

You don't understand that the main insights by Kahneman is that he talked about decision making and in economics and other science is always assumed fully rational agents...so it's great! simple idea but studied together with Tversky...and it's great! the difficult is to make it useful but perhaps agent-based model, neuro imaging and something else...people who seems to know all picture: why they didn't publish prospect theory and contributed to the born of behavioural economics/finance

[@1971SuperLead]

@ReligiousSkeptic, Interesting. I never knew people studied this stuff. I've always been a lover of logic and reason without the senses, but in the last 20 years I have been trying to utilize intuition. It's tough because the logical mind will argue against seeking intuition. Old habits are hard to break, but if I give up trying to come up with my own answers...the answers usually come quickly. Sometimes the same minute. It feels as if they are hand delivered by a dear friend.

[@jenspice27]

I would highly recomend to Kahneman (well to everyone) the wonderful scientific and novel ideas put fourth in the works of ANTONY PEAKE (CHEATING THE FEERYMAN) if not to convince you, as a brilliant exercise in thought and mind expansion to Considering all the data, Sheldrake's MORPHOGENETIC FIELDS model is alone in its explanation of the mechanics behind the intuition of those team group athletes (aka being in the zone)

[@SophyLaughing]

the face the woman makes is perhaps 'surprised' rather than angry; my first reaction to the face was to wonder, which led me to look inward for my understanding of the facial expression. I did not have one. I returned to my concept of 'surprise' supporting it with the thought that habitual programming might cause this woman to mimic an 'angry' face (or what others perceive as an angry face) but not simultaneously feel it. Not everything is perceivable without asking the woman if she is angry.

[@Nevyle]

Then I assume it ties in perfectly with absence(epileptic) seizures ? explaining it and provding an acces point for controlled disruption ?

[@theboombody]

My biggest problem is when I see a system that is built on intuitive principles produce a result that goes against intuition, am I supposed to trust the system that has previously been so good to me, or do I go with my intuition on the one result and consider throwing the whole system out? 0!=1 has always been a big problem for me, despite some favorable arguments that rely SOMEWHAT on intuition. The statement itself is still too counterintuitive.

[@soccom8341576]

when the results goes against intuition, figure it out exactly what makes you uneasy and adjust. You see, intuition is not a solid state oracle that never changes. When you think differently, your intuition will change too. So when you do figure out 0!=1 in a way you like, you can change you way of thinking. Also, don't get too caught up with the answers. It is all part of the process. Your intuition is not from somewhere else, it is part of you. PM me if you got further issues.

[@1971SuperLead]

@ReligiousSkeptic To think without knowledge...is not really thinking. It is merely dreaming. Intuition is closer to thinking that reasoning with logic. He who knows has little to think about. What does the all knowing need to reason with? He simple knows all and all questions are instantaneously answered. Questions can barely be raised where knowledge is abundant. The 5 senses are highly subjective. The reason being is that they are highly influnced by the beliefs of the mind using them.

[@SophyLaughing]

What is happening when an individual sees the "B" and the "13" as identical objects prior to reading the list. Could this spatial awareness as a first cause (prior to what you are defining as "intuition" or habitual pattern recognition, even after one event, such as in the story of meeting your friend a second time at the theater) affect your findings?

[@lisfub]

motivation is in the intuition not in reasoning, so if you wanna be rational; follow your intuition.

[@evanstafford55]

Interesting mapping of the human mind.

[@1971SuperLead]

@ReligiousSkeptic, Am I intuitive? Is that the question? I'm not being too intuitive right now. lol Actually, I have been working on it for years. I think being intuitive is about giving up thinking and learning to listen instead. It's not a gut feeling however. It is an idea that pops into my mind. It can be a vision as well. I know it's not my idea or vision because it shocks me a bit. I comes out of left field and is very strong. Not only that, but they are far more brilliant than my ideas.

[@FUNCLEJ0E]

The only problem with this lecture, is assuming first, that the brain (mind) is the sole source of thought. Intuition is not only of the mind, but also of the heart, and the reason it is slower, is because of educational standards imposed on society / majority, that make it difficult for the heart to be understood by the brain, which is tampered with from birth into adulthood. Therefore it is a biased study based on existing conditions, and not all conditions that are possible via environments.

[@Rcmetal76]

intuition can occur variably ,sometime it is vague and hard to recognize. At least this has been my experience.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate Well, ok, there's this book called A Course In Miracles, and this book is filled with the wildest information you can imagine. It says the most outlandish things ever.....but then.....it backs it up with logic and reason that is brilliant and undeniable if you have much integrity. THEN it offers the EXPERIENCES of what it claims, and those experiences are the real clinchers. The experiences start gently enough, and they could be coincidences, but they keep coming and growing!

[@Sanakreon]

Skip to 4:20 for Daniel Kahneman.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate continued.....and it doesn't stop there, next come the psychic experiences. Oh, and the world becomes a different place too. A place of peace and purpose and a lot more......oh ya, a lot more. So much more. I kind of miss that world, thank you for reminding me. To be in that world takes at least an hour a day of meditation...at least for me. If I meditate for 3 hours a day....well, I'm not going to comment on what will happen then.

[@thevisi0naryy]

@josh1492 you cant entirely define something that grows and changes. its an applyable/observable frame of mind that can be hinted at or described by terms, not restricted to

[@maxlouis2910]

13:50 essentially the basis of AI.

[@JinalKothariS]

thanks mate

[@STFUNOWlol]

@FUNCLEJ0E The heart? You know the heart is just a pump, right? You're basically saying "The computing in your computer isn't just done by processors, but also by the power supply." Quite wrong, sir.

[@Sirmenonottwo]

For both the bar graph exercise in the begging and the A 13 C exercise I knew the answer intuitively because the only reason they were there was to trick the viewer so I knew not to be tricked.

[@TwistedLemniscate]

@1971SuperLead I believe you side-stepped this question: "How exactly does it follow that there are such things as Jesus, and God if the mind is in a dream-state?" I suppose I can reword it: "How can you speak so surely of these things (God, creation, freewill, our false reality, God's perfection, etc.) when your understanding stems from the supposed dream." What you seem to be impling is that the reality we live in is false, though absolutely true conclusions can be derived from it.

[@Nevyle]

thats what patents are for.. Or, as with any claim, you probably have some model, so should be able to make some predictions/acount for something (which you can share at will without informing on the mechanism itself) anything...maybe a clarification on the 'highest level', whats that level exactly ??

[@TwistedLemniscate]

@1971SuperLead How exactly does it follow that there are such things as Jesus, and God if the mind is in a dream-state? To say that our perceptions are false and then to say that these things that we know from the Bible or others' teachings are true is to suggest that we were taught of the Bible and taught by others without perceptions (which is clearly false). I suppose one might counter that discovering Jesus, etc., is an intuition, but it is really not for anyone who has never heard.

[@lowereastsideastrologist7769]

Speaking of biases, Conman himself has a severe bias against intuition and it's clearly superior function towards parallel integration of information , and generation of novel sets. - where even fluid intelligence falls short.

[@Michael-zj3cn]

You should reconsider your life choices. From my experience and analysis of your comment and profile you are under the influence of drugs.

[@lowereastsideastrologist7769]

***** You need some uncommon sense to cure your deluded ramblings.

[@Michael-zj3cn]

Mc Michael care to stumble together an explanation just about as unintelligible as this last one?

[@k9thru12]

@ncmCloud thanks big time

[@gefftom]

get the best of both

[@soccom8341576]

At the end of the day, we are still one species made from mostly common DNA code, with similar needs, weaknesses, strengths, suffering from the Human condition. Maybe we shouldn't take ourselves and the world so seriously, and try to calm down and think about how we behave all the time. That's at least better than watching TV. It starts with the individual.

[@TwistedLemniscate]

@1971SuperLead But the thoughts must be derived from something concrete? All you're doing is suggesting that what we percieve to be concrete isn't, and therefore there must be something that's concrete that we cannot perceive. THough this is possible, simplicity suggests that this is unlikely. Of course my comment evaporates if you suggest that thoughts themselves are concrete, but I believe what we define thoughts to be is too vague to be called concrete (though the neurons are).

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate continued...yes they keep coming and they are so personal, so clever, so helpful, so lovely and peaceful and you think "Wow! My luck sure has changed!", but then one day you fall on your knees and cry because you can't deny it anymore. You realize you are not alone. Jesus is there and he is making himself known to you in ways that are so unique and personal. He is the kindest and most thoughtful person you CAN'T imagine. Whatever you can imagine and then multiply it by 100.

[@1lightheaded]

And then you take your medication and the nurse tells you time for tea

[@shirleyjshi7067]

this is very general. hard to apply in the real life, and i am sure many professionals were upset by his finding and his intuition biases.

[@thevisi0naryy]

@josh1492 hmmm but doesnt logic grow as perception grows?

[@roryboryalice]

@ncmCloud Thanx!

[@RoyManter]

@springzoller55 thats instict

[@thevisi0naryy]

@josh1492 ohh i know what you mean. your termonology is allittle confusing

[@EchadLevShtim]

@josh1492 But when in uncertainty, we follow the leader. Even if you are recieving the answer, others can persuade you. It could be that you lose trust in your intuition because everyone else jumped off the cliff & we feel that we dont want to be left out or be standing as the fool, so we inherently align with a collective decision when we feel uncertainty. So the math is not perceived logically as much as it is unconciously. Lets not forget that we build worlds in a our dreams. unconscious math

[@1lightheaded]

What do you mean by we . I have seen that demonstrated it was one of the Stanford experiments . When the group was given the cue to give the incorrect answer the test subject started agreeing with the group in three questions . Or the one where you have someone supposedly give an electric shock at a dangerous level to someone in the next room. this is on the order of the doctor . Depending on the set up you could get seventy percent compliance even with the victim screaming

[@EchadLevShtim]

@@1lightheaded This was a post from over a decade ago. Alot has changed since then. Considering I was Atheist then, Flat Lined 2014 and NDE, Baptized 2019. Saw Future Vision. Then Yelled at a crowd of 100 face maskers and refuse the Vaccine. Im not even the same person then because I was a full blown alcoholic that am 7 years sober now. I Never follow leaders and take shhht from no one. I Always Resist, even Violently.

[@EchadLevShtim]

@@1lightheaded Apparently this video is saying Im a Leader. Always follow your Intuition and Do what your gut instinct tells you. This world is shht and they are all devils now. I died once and was sent back, I am Not scared to die fighting it. If it aint Yahshuah Ha Mashiach, then Im here to send them straight to hell.

[@frikkie25]

I think that there is some confusion between instinct and intuition. Instinct is explained quite easily by psychologists because it is based on past experiences. Intuition, on the other hand, has no past history to draw on.

[@deals2013]

This is great but clearly he's talking about the majority of the people however there are a lot of other people who think different.There is no true judgment!

[@nashaper]

sry, dont even bother to answer - i clicked randomly to verify my first impression and hit minute 15, where he says that "simple programs make better decision then judgies" - well, comon - noone could take that seriously even coming from bla-bla-bla-renowned professor.

[@001010011100101110]

36:05

[@soccom8341576]

@Missticklotus Our divisions tend to be imaginary more than anything else and if we all take a step back before getting into conflict, we would see how other people are just as human as we are, and want similar things, and how some of these classifications are just made up by people who are ignorant of their own humanity.

[@bierhemet]

i read the B as 13 in the first line. looks like my brain is conditioned to read captcha codes :P

[@k9thru12]

two words Gravity Waves

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate We are lost in a dark dream and Jesus is the Light into our dreams that makes it possible for us to wake up. The dream is based on death and guilt and those beliefs keep us seeing death and guilt. Through proper prayer and meditation we invite Jesus into our mind and therefore into our world and we allow him to replace our dark and fearful beliefs with beliefs that are Light and Lovely. The world changes instantly before our eyes everytime we humbly call for his help.

[@STFUNOWlol]

@FUNCLEJ0E Alright, brah. When you say heart, what the hell do you mean? You mind? Your conscious? Your "soul"? Your heart is a pump. It pumps blood.

[@MetalxXxMayhem]

@Sanakreon Lol. Perfect timing. ;D

[@emotionalinvalid]

well since i am an emotional invalid(i.e. made permanent by psychiatric torture drugging for no reason other than having a nervous breakdown, not threat to self or others) i could only watch the first couple minutes. seems to me according to the good professor that intuition is really recalling learning subconsciously from our unconscious memory bank( our hard disks in brain). i thought intuition was something much more mysterious, correct action without prior knowlege or learning. whatever...

[@xinovert3807]

Take a look at the patents this guy is involved with

[@darrendorsun]

an expert intuition is that the feet are warm if there is a fire underneath? fool.

[@1980PintoMan]

I almost quit watching after a few minutes but glad I didn't. Interesting how our minds work and like to jump to incorrect conclusions, or even answer questions that weren't asked.

[@FUNCLEJ0E]

@STFUNOWlol Your brain is so sharp. So intact. I'm glad we don't disagree.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate, The mind is real, but it is not of form. The mind is creative, but it can also miscreate due to freewill. Reality is abstract, but the mind has miscreated a world of form. The forms will not last, nor will our sins that miscreated them. The belief in sin miscreated the world we see. The world of form represents our sinful beliefs. We are not in the world. The world is in us. Like a dream at night, the entire universe is only in our minds, yet we believe we are in it.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate God created us, yet what we are is but spirits. God also gave us freewill and so we are not prisoners to the reality God created. However, God was very smart and knew that His Reality was perfect and that anything we created would be lacking. So we can imagine we are in a world of duality , but God made sure we only dream it., otherwise we would have destroyed ourselves. God does not let his children destroy themselves, but he will allow to dream we are.

[@mike37405]

Vague comment since homo sapiens got their start in Africa.

[@samu141082]

it's a Simon's "bequest" investigation: bounded rationality...

[@FUNCLEJ0E]

@STFUNOWlol I don't recall giving you any authority over me, nor my being, nor how I operate, nor how I disclose myself. I made a "comment", and you render a notice of intent to call me, "wrong", which, actually, is an argument you would engage me in. However, my heart, is not a dictator, I do find it is wise to just say to you, "I am". It is written in your heart, and your being. It is not a product of "your" mind, but because you are empty, you can not rob me of mine. I am not a "sir" either

[@nashaper]

name one new insight plz..

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate The world goes for the world is merely based on sin, guilt and death and these things do not really exist. This seems impossible to believe while the world terrifies our senses, but nothing is impossible with Jesus. What is impossible in dreams? All it takes is a change in thought and the dream follows without resistence. Control your tongue, for words create beliefs, and beliefs create the world you see. Nothing is outside of you, yet without Jesus you are lost in nightmares

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate The belief in sins create all our problems. The problems seem to be outside of us, but they are all inside of us. It's why Jesus did nothing to change the world, he only sought to change our beliefs. Just like in our nightly dreams, our beliefs create our world. What we think rises before our eyes and seems to be quite apart from our own thoughts. The dreamer has no idea he creates the world he sees, until he becomes aware he is the dreamer. To awaken from dreams takes Light.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate Each time we welcome Jesus to replace a fearful belief the world becomes more like heaven. The goal is to make the world so heavenly in your mind that we come to remember heaven again and simply walk up from the dream of worlds. There is no world. The Kingdom of Heaven is merely God the Father and His Creation which all resemble the Father...perfectly. So be careful! You are as creative as God your Father and your thoughts are very powerful. Whatever you believe, you will see.

[@jangofet555]

perhaps that inferiority he see's in people is a limited belief.

[@Nevyle]

"i know how the thought process works on the highest level" hahahahha, right.... a publication ?? nobel prize ? anything ??

[@lowereastsideastrologist7769]

Creative people need to remind high IQ people trying to claim to be "smart", there whole set 1 21 123 4321, is a COPY.

[@1971SuperLead]

@TwistedLemniscate Nothing the eyes see is 100% true. The senses deceive us greatly. The bible is not perfect, nor anything else that is of form. What is perfect is what is inside the forms. Spiritual vision is the ability to see spirits in all form. Spirit is perfect, but is deluded while believing it is not spirit, but flesh. Jesus is the "bridge" out of dreams of form back to abstract reality. Our beliefs are what create this dream of form that we only think we see outside of ourselves.

[@muf]

Carl Gustav Jung.

[@TwistedLemniscate]

@1971SuperLead So you meditate, hear Jesus speak to you, and gain psychic abilities? Easy enough to believe (sarcasm), but after some Googling, I found that one of the authors was an MK-ULTRA scientist. So basically even if you believe your own experiences genuinely, by Okham's razor, there's still other more realistic explanations. It was an interesting few days commenting with you though, Cheers

[@eden28s]

cccraaapppp

[@nashaper]

a very weak lecture with old and irrelevant examples. "modern version of freudian psychology" according to the prof - well, not really: freud was not that banal.

[@kn9ioutom]

SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT

[@gwedielwch]

In me it evokes disgust and anger. There is simply no excuse for thinking, let alone expressing, this vile rubbish.

[@handlebar82]

Totally over-hyped.

[@gwedielwch]

This comment is a disgrace.

[@stewb9044]

is he obama dad

[@darrendorsun]

get to the bloody point!

[@sachaguitry7555]

Darren Dorsun aa

[@taytayy99]

pure ignorance!!!

[@redgemon]

No u

[@1nada1nado1]

Boring !! i need my 56:01 minutes of my life !!

[@roryboryalice]

@ncmCloud Thanx!