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[@karturku]

I've been living in Turkey for 26 years and this is the first time I heard someone claims eating pork is a mainstream habit in Turkey. This is just a lie. These guys who eats pork may represent %1 of Turks. Banning alcohol at some places bothers me too. People need to be free with their choices...

[@Paltheus]

I don't really have to comment on this one. Thanks for proving me right. I rest my case!... Keep making anti-democratic statements in the US...thats really smart of you. Oh, and they dropped the "u" in American English by the way. In British English it's still "colour". And one more question: What am I supposed to be saved from?

[@easternshock]

@MeenGheyriAna How do you find me???!! In every video lol! But, on a serious level, I've only met a hand full of ppl who don't eat pork in Turkey... usually old people.

[@Drigger95]

"We want our minds open" lmao. By drinking alcohol? Europe's mind 'opened' when its people stopped drinking beer in the morning and switched to coffee.

[@mrnevertheire4098]

respect to the british muslim guy asked some prety funny questions :)

[@joker12346969]

Although poverty is a problem in both Turkey and Saudi Arabia, poverty in Turkey is much worse. Also standard of living in Turkey was even worse before Erdogan.

[@ulysse21]

@AnimationPlantation : it says "to avoid pork MEAT", not just pork ! that obviously concerns an eating ban

[@guzelkibris4521]

Turkey is secular country and stay this way.We Turk can not live in sheria law.We want freedom of speech and human rights.Who want sheria law can go live Iran or Saudi Arabia.

[@3choBlast3r]

@TURKOMAN Only the Christian guy among the hunters eats the pork. Notice that they NEVER say they eat pork. They just like to hunt .. I've also never seen any pork in Turkey being sold or eaten. There are some that sell pork but that's very rare and only in big cities with a lot of Christians like Istanbul where in a christian neighborhood you may be able to buy some pork from the lokal butcher.Finding pork in Turkey is almost impossible.

[@hsarem]

Let it be said that there is a certain level of propaganda involved. For those you who thinks its ruining the image of islam, thats not what this documentary is about. Yes the majority of Turkish people are Muslims. The state itself, however, is not Islamic. Lets be very clear about that distinction. Remember there is no compulsion in Islam, hence Turkey is a model state for the Islamic world to follow in the 21st century. I cannot wait to visit this magnificent country next summer!

[@suhailshafi]

Headscarves are no longer banned in Turkish universities.

[@nimmason]

I'm one of them, thanks for saying that :)

[@teletesselator]

No social compromise!! Islam must go! Make it totally illegal!

[@Paltheus]

Putting on a hijab or going to the mosque every friday DOES NOT give anyone the right to oppress people that do not wish to live this way.

[@beykozlu1453]

this people are the real Turkic people and that is more than 80% of Turkey. al of them seports other politici but they are the real Turks

[@allahwabas]

My argument is that, if you want to be respected as intellectuals and taking serious, use something other than alcohol to symbolize your movement

[@easternshock]

I am Turkish and I drink Alcohol + eat pork EVERYDAY!!!!

[@aporia82]

This is not a bbc propaganda, in every rural area of turkey hunters hunt and eat wild pigs, it's a very known fact, not only the hunters but also their families eat it. it's some kind of a tradition.

[@allahwabas]

I don't condone anyone threatening anyone who simply feels free to express their freedom, but i would support their cause much more if they were holding PENS in their hand symbolizing the freedom of expression and thought. You can provide a list as long as your arm of problems that has been caused Islamist but i can provide you with a list a100 times as long of what problems alcohol done to Turkey.

[@bademoxy]

i can't help that suspect that many turks resent that arabs invaded them bringing islam , just like my persian friends also feel this way.

[@oliveparadise]

so we eat pork, so what??? Islam in Turkey has been shaped in a more suffi way unlike it has been shaped in other middle eastern countries and that doesnt mean we are not proud of our selves. We just separate religion and state and a lot of people are free to follow what ever they would like. Thats why we are the most advanced and modern middle eastern country and we are proud of that.

[@liilu8]

What is your opinion on the Armenian issue? is it a Genocide?

[@Metsada007]

Turkish Muslims don't eat pork !!! I have never seen something like this before. It gives a wrong image of Turkish Muslims.

[@jeanpaulfelix]

care to elaborate!!! with logic of course...

[@thewrathofbombast]

Agree. Including the guy who made the documentary.

[@MysteryPunisher]

May the Ottomans rise again and lead the country ALLAHUAKBAR!!!

[@MysteryPunisher]

@nagamora Correct THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE ISLAM. ISLAM IS FOR EVERY CENTURY.

[@njkeyes80]

Real Islam can CAN produce peace and modernity. However, eventually it tends to have a negative impact on free society and general freedom. Only a matter of time before it does its damage in Turkey, unless of course there is a stronger force that continues to push against it and keep it in its place.This is why it is not like Islam in other countries. Its kept in its place. Other countries are a result of Islam having too much of an upper hand. Separation of church and state is best for everyone

[@drhitman1358]

The Persecuted turkey is a prostitute of Russia they can rape them at their will as for modern turkey keep licking testicel of European Union they may accept you in 4050 or before the day of judgement in Europian block turkey is self proclaimed europen turkey is some were near Africa Asia that borders the deserts of Iraq & syria Islam gave them power but turkey is a wild boar afraid of big powers

[@3ainy3aleik]

Is he really saying alcohol is an idea of enlightment?

[@azrausa]

Where is this please ? I don't think those people are muslim ?

[@allahwabas]

I don't think in the modern day world with technology and the world wide web i need to live in a country to understand its politics and social issues, i have a masters in middle eastern studies and studied Islamic sharia for 3 years and could say the same thing about you, cause as i mentioned before the liberals in Turkey or any where else never protested the right of Muslim who wear the hijab by choice. or the rights of Muslims to practice their faith freely

[@dion1820]

What does drinking alcohol have to do with freedom of mind and the enlightenment? It's been proven without alcohol crime and other domestic issues go down.

[@TheIman101]

Freedom of choice is an enlightenment principle.

[@allahwabas]

Who said it does? And who said ur only suppose to wear it on Friday when u go to the mosque? and who said ur only suppose to go to the mosque on Friday? NOTICE how i said SUPPOSE, that doesn't mean YOU HAVE TOO but these are the religious requirement for Muslims if ur a non-Muslim or a secular no one is asking you to do anything. Just like you do NOT wish Muslims to push their belief on you, we as Muslims wish secular and atheist stop pushing their belief on us.

[@joker12346969]

But Saudi Arabia does have a higher standard of living than Turkey

[@burakayan1429]

what a funny country I have. ahahaha :D

[@Metsada007]

Islam already rules Turkey

[@Paltheus]

That's what I'm telling you, In Turkey (where YOU dont live) the conservative right uses their "Religious politics" to gain votes and financially expand.....The liberals DONT impose their lifestyle on them. This is what I've been trying to tell you from the beginning but you are focusing on other issues of your own concern.......

[@allahwabas]

and if ur referring to the comment "we believe in the God's laws only" YES i do mean us Muslims, cause if you do not believe in the laws of Allah whats the point of being a Muslim? idk if ur a Muslim or not but its a question you should ask yourself not comment on KZbin

[@aporia82]

@gno72 you can find similar people in every part of turkey. hunters always hunt and eat wild pigs here. they also share it with their families. there's nothing balloney, it is true.

[@allahwabas]

9:14 Alcohol is enlightenment? lol

[@Paltheus]

You didn't get the gist did you. Alcohol is not enlightenment but freedom to live unopressed is part of being on the path to enlightenment....

[@karturku]

@3choBlast3r All I can tell you is just NOTİCE 6:51 . You don't seem to understand what you listen :)

[@beykozlu1453]

do you want to see the real nationalist Turks. when they talk with a christian misionaris, they dont slap him or hit him but saying him that they must to read and let read the books about the most importand human on the world MUHAMMED sav,they are the grey wolves,somebody know them and some body will know them in the future..look this film; Kim Bu Ülkücüler.

[@Paltheus]

Just take a look at some of the Turkish politicans who have been in power in the last 30 years. Their wealth before power is around %20 of what it becomes after they get into the driving seats........It's all about money....

[@beykozlu1453]

and that protest is not to the ISLAM but that they will makes rules, that you cant drink alchohol openlyyy. that people are not saying that they not will the ISLAM but the will do what they wants.. that is the reason wy we are Turkic people and everybody, dont matter witch relegy can do what he or she wants to do.... Istanbul is the only citty in the world where you have a MOSQUE, a CHURCH and SINACOC in one street....(only Kudus you have) but in Istanbul you havent people that kill eachather;))

[@MysteryPunisher]

Do they eat the pork.

[@Paltheus]

People talk about alcohol because it is in plain sight. And you can get harrased openly for it these days whreas before it wasn't a big issue at all.It's just an easy & obvious example to use. It's only one(& the least important I might add)of a long list of freedoms that are being tailored to be removed.As I said it's just the most obvious.I could talk about censorship & the threats & murders that have been commited agaist journalists & cartoonists but you would only know of that superficially.

[@Paltheus]

I didn't lose. In all types of debate once one side reverts to demagoguery the other side has absolutely nothing left to say. So I guess you would be the "5" year old in question...Anyway good luck to you ....

[@easternshock]

@MeenGheyriAna I know about you. You are modern, secular, no headscarf, westernised (you told me, remember?). I was only agreeing with you, agreeing that ppl who call themselves muslims should act in accordance to the Quran. Hmm, so you are interested in Turkey! Have you considered traveling to Constantinople? You should come to Turkey this summer...you can stay with me... I can show you around. I can show you the most fundementalist and most liberal neighborhoods and allow for you to compare :)

[@easternshock]

@Bareek91 Well then, I hope you know that 99% of Turks drink Alcohol, and around 75% consume pork. Alcohol is a great part of our culture... Without alcohol we wouldn't have the great music, dances and festivities we have. We are NOT going to give it up for anything. Down with prohibition! Cheers!

[@azrausa]

Those people are Alawi Shia not Muslim.

[@zafthedon]

Salaam ahahahahahahahaha - what are they doing

[@slicbro]

when you say "we".....do you mean your view of religion imposed on other people?

[@teletesselator]

Hehe... :)

[@allahwabas]

i see you are accusing me of بدعه or innovation. You cant show one thing i discussed that is not from the holy Quran and the Islam. I do not believe in forcing my beliefs on others but its a fact that alcohol and gambling has ever helped any civilization or society. If the secular society wanna attack Muslims for their beliefs then that's their choice but do not claim to be intellectuals and activist by standing in the street with alcohol shouting like village idiots.

[@allahwabas]

I said THE VAST MAJORITY OF TURKS I HAVE SPOKEN TO....i guess English is not a language u can comprehend....listen buddy u wanna worship Moustafa Ataturk and his laws go right ahead no one is stopping you, WE BELIEVE IN GODS LAWS ONLY, i wonder who is greater??? We shall see when you meet Allah (SWT) inthe after life, if Ataturk is going to be there to save u from his wrath. GOOD LUCK :)

[@hollywood5274]

Shit hole in 5 years.

[@Paltheus]

No its the other wy around

[@dunkenus]

too many old habits to throw away... drankards feel the most pressure to leave intoxication because to them its in their blodlines...poor people hahahaha

[@Paltheus]

(...continued) Finally, thank you for showing you're true colours by threatening me by saying "We shall see when you meet Allah in the after life". Does it make you angry that I have a different opinion of how to live my life? Are you the right hand of God that you give yourself the right to make these threats?...By saying this you have put yourself on a level with God (which is said is a sin)....It says so in the Kuran. So I guess you should read it now and then.........

[@uyeanonim]

there is no traditional or modern muslim types. Only muslims there are

[@senolmehmet1727]

ancient turkic not muslim ancient turkic culture samanist convertie muslim 1000

[@senolmehmet1727]

ancient turkic cultur samanist

[@Captain_Mckeggor]

This amateur reporter is literally scraping the bottom of the barrel. Clearly looking for obvious taboos for cheap thrills. Honestly, how does this pass for a documentary?

[@Paltheus]

Why do british muslims embrace Sharia and still live in britain.....LOL. A contradiction beyond belief.....did I make a pun.....I think I did.....LOL

[@allahwabas]

AstafurAllah, how on earth did you come up with that from all what i said??? how is that a threat when its clearly a comment...what are you talking about??? ur not making any sense, i said if you think ur right, then when you meet Allah SWT in the after you will know whether ur right or not but one thing for sure Ataturk wont save you. But again ENGLISH IS REALLY NOT YOUR STRONG POINT. By the way, it takes a lot more than your high level of ignorance to make me angry. PS. its COLORs not COLOURS

[@beykozlu1453]

you dont understand,,,, the ISLAM is the most importand thing in Turkey.... you must to understand, we are not a MUSLIM country... but a county were 99% of the people have the ISLAM as religie.... so what you will... europe will that we are a full democratic republic and the others will that we are a religion public... but dont forget nobody can tell the Turks what they must do( only ALLAH can that)... we respect every whone in Turkey but dont mess with us and make us not bad whit this things..

[@bika808]

bull shit propaganda.:(