Family Who Disappeared Found Trapped Inside Secret Room Locked For 9 Years

[@NarwhalHamwhich]

Are we just gonna ignore that Brian's neighbor's name is Scott Free? Ok.

[@aliciamarcel3620]

🤣🤣

[@viyannalangager5843]

Lol

[@robyntaylor499]

😂🤣😭

[@JennyWenny14]

I was looking for this

[@kinbre4448]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TF80s]

So let me get this straight..you can murder a man, dismember his body, dump him in a fish tank, move into his house, spend all his money, hire a "crime scene clean up company" to get rid of evidence of the crime (apart from the actual body) and still get away with his murder? How does any murderer ever get sent down for murder in America if this is an example of the legal system there?

[@isaacbruner65]

Only in California

[@66hoodwitch]

Yet, we have many innocent people getting imprisoned, left and right...

[@paulinemccallum7187]

That's America for you 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the worst country in the world 🌍🌍🌍

[@X11CHASE]

@@paulinemccallum7187 what’s your country?

[@bethroberts3751]

It's actually worse. In American criminal justice sytems, the criminals are the lawyers judges and cops...it Is a for-profit human trafficking system that preys on those who can not afford to pay to stay out...they are used as laborers for mere pennies...it gets worse...

[@TornSparrow1974]

Hmmm. Missing neighbor. Unknown men seen cleaning like mad and bleach overload. Clean-up crew? Torso under the stairs? Yup, I'm sure they didn't kill Brian either... (smh)

[@kimrunyon7200]

It comes down to family didn't care enough to really get answers then neighbors tried smh n cops didn't even try why bother NOONE else gave a shit sad

[@robmanning6006]

@@kimrunyon7200 No, it comes down to the damn police not doing their jobs, bottom line

[@natalie9884]

Love this comment

[@lifeofcyn808]

@TornSparrow= STOP using common sense... Lol

[@nutcracker2916]

I can't believe they got away with that. Scott Free!

[@MisterDutch93]

Just to clear some things up, Gerrit van D. at Ruinerwold was holding his kids captive, he didn't kidnap them. As far as I know, he has been officially charged with "deprivation of liberty", but the case against him was put on hold last year because he suffered from a stroke. He was unable to form words or sentences and is recovering from brain damage. His four oldest kids however are suing him in their own case for alleged sexual abuse, hoping that their father will acknowledge his wrongdoings in order to get some sense of justice. The oldest son recounts how he had to wear his mother's clothes and sleep in the same bed as his father after she had died, and was sexually assaulted during that time. He also had to take his mother's role in the household as his dad believed her spirit now inhabited his body. It's completely insane. The Austrian handyman Josef B. is charged with conspiring with Gerrit and upholding the reign of terror after he became unable to do so on his own. He faces a possible 4 years in prison. Father Gerrit van D. was allegedly part of the Unification Church, or Moon sect, but added his own apocalyptical beliefs into the mix. He sought to repopulate the world with his family. The children are doing fine now. They've more or less succesfully reintegrated into society and have worked together on a book and documentary explaining their 9 year imprisonment at home.

[@ijustwanttolikecomments4677]

many thanks for the update

[@KiffenderBewaehrungsversager]

What is the name of the documentary? Or is it still in work?

[@urmommabear5monthsago]

Yeah I wanna see the documentary

[@MisterDutch93]

@@KiffenderBewaehrungsversager it’s called “De Kinderen van Ruinerwold” (translation: The Children of Ruinerwold). It’s a four part documentary series that was shown on public broadcasting in the Netherlands. It’s fully in Dutch and I don’t know if you can find a version with English subtitles.

[@StofStuiver]

Thats quite a narrow view on things that you present there MisterDutch. Its far from cut and dried and this case opens up a gigantic can of worms, wrt proof, ethics, the role of the state wrt children and rights, etc etc. As far as i know, the case is stopped (geseponeerd) and imo very unlikely to be re opened (as for above reasons). Officially, bc Gerrit suffered a stroke years ago and is unable to speak and therefor cannot stand trial. He resides in a care facility. He is also sueing the state for 50400 Euro, of which the prosecutors said he has no right to, bc of allegations. In NL, reparations are only given AFTER a trial and people have been determined they cannot have been guilty of such crime, or the crime did not occur. You do not get compensation otherwise; so for instance you are let go, bc of lack of evidence, is not right for compensation. The evidence has to prove you did not do it, could not have done it, or crime did not occur at all. And thats rare. Also the youngest 5 children at some point stated they wished they got back to the farm with their dad. Its not all that easy to judge and even if they do not wish to go back now (which i dont know), you may argue that similarly they are under the influence of other caretakers now, which have a different influence than the father had. But its still influence. So there you see how difficult ethical problem this is. Same applies to whose children they are; the state or the parents? The allegations of abuse; same thing. The state does not apply physicla force? Hitting with sticks? Yes, the state does... But the law says the state is allowed to do so, but parents do not. Ethically, there is no difference. So who is the state to judge? Thats a regular theme btw, but all the other angles on this, also wrt religion, make this extremely complex and im sure the judges in this case are happy the man cant talk and the case is stopped. Note: this is not about my opinion, but about ethics, religion, psychology, law, state, etc. I merely try to show how difficult this is and do not take a stand in any way to justify this mans convictions, or the state.

[@delinquents00]

Two guys living in Brian Egg’s house, using his identity to buy things, with his cut up body with them but they go free... What..?

[@tablescissors]

And yet ppl probably give spare change to his killers all the time

[@rusty1187]

At first i thought there were piranhas in the fish tank!

[@MsNoPixel]

Wasn’t enough evidence at that point. You can’t just hold people without enough physical evidence, I know it’s not fair but that’s life sadly.

[@delinquents00]

@@MsNoPixel using his identity while living with his dead body should be enough evidence.

[@firsttimecallerlongtimelis836]

@@MsNoPixel not enough evidence?? Living in his house, using his money , got a criminal cleaning company and his body was cut up there . How much more evidence do you need? How many people have been sentenced to life for so much less?

[@raymondleggs5508]

"We believe it may be a homicide" Well people don't dismember themselves and stuff themselves inside an aquarium and stuff it under the stars.

[@ashleytrueblood2200]

Exactly!!

[@mermaidgirl9232]

Wonder how long it took them to figure that one out? Also,they searched his home for three days and suddenly looked inside a room under the stairs. If you ever want to disappear for a few days just go to this city,hell they’d never find you.

[@whisperinthewind1789]

@@mermaidgirl9232 🤣🤣

[@Nagaikisuru]

And they dropped the charges on the fucking people who did it smh WHAT THE FUCK, Like totally, Yeah they were just squatting on and off in a house with some dude dismembered inside of a fish tank, there's no way it was good ole them, Psh.

[@phendlin]

worst case of suicide they'd ever seen....

[@Justthollyy]

Brian's family, friends and neighbours did more trying to find him than the useless cops did. To make matters worse, the two pos who murdered him aren't even being held accountable. 🤬

[@MsNoPixel]

Tbf you don’t know 100% that they killed him, they most likely did but you don’t know that for a fact. A lot of homeless people would cover up a body for a free home & money.

[@Justthollyy]

@@MsNoPixel Tbh, you don't know for sure if "a lot of homeless people would do that for free money and a home." You literally just stereotyped homeless people. Maybe listen closely to what was said about the case. They murdered him and lived with his body. All while cleaning up their crime scene. Not to mention, stealing his money and his home. So save me your bs comment. Brian and his friends and loved ones deserve justice.

[@Lynn-zx3th]

@@Justthollyy I agree!

[@jegerm6752]

Maybe the prosecutors wanted the police to investigate further to gather more evidence so they can have a slam dunk case. If the trial resulted in mistrial or acquittal due to lack of evidence, the 2 perps would’ve walked anyway and couldnt be prosecuted for the same crime in the future (double jeopardy).

[@carynmartin6053]

Typical of that police dept

[@goldiemusic8394]

Me : that's it, I have to go to sleep now. EXPLORE WITH US : hey, wanna hear about a family trapped inside for 9 years ? Me : sure.

[@aneleszemog9093]

that's exactly what im doing right now, glad im not alone 🤣

[@blazmedija9766]

time for one more? sure its only 5 in the morning...

[@urmommabear5monthsago]

Yeah 2am here. Me 🤔 I can handle just 2 hours sleep. Tomorrow 🧟

[@esrablogger7797]

😂😂😂yes

[@Wh00says]

1:45 am rn and you've taken then words right outta my mouth 😂🤣

[@karenwhinesmore9347]

I am so angry that they let those 2 men off for Brian's murder and dismembering!! They are clearly guilty!! How could they let them go free?? I can't imagine how his family and friends feel over this!!!

[@fransantelli]

yes!! i'm just a stranger who found out about this on youtube and i am heartbroken and infuriated!!!

[@fucku3460]

Probably freemasons or satanists with connections

[@chaozZX3]

@@fucku3460 you should watch the podcast called Timesuck with the comidian Dan cummins. He would love you

[@Sabri2319]

That’s California for you

[@buca117]

Not necessarily guilty. I can see a scenario where two homeless men stumble upon an abandoned house, take up residence, find a dead body, freak out and try to get rid of it while caving to temptation and using the dead man's credit card to better their obviously crap lot in life. People on the streets aren't typically known for their sound reasoning and decisive decision making.

[@jun1131]

Another interesting thing about the first case, Sandile was not the only man to be found mysteriously dead in the rafters of that hospital.

[@ScenekidzrockXD]

There was a killer in that hospital

[@jimmyormerod4075]

he couldent pay the fee so he tried escaping and got stuck he wasnt murderd they know that for sure he had no injuries apart from the leg

[@uglydog]

Oh?

[@raspb3rry_sky]

@@jimmyormerod4075 Interesting. Can you maybe provide us with a link to read on this further? Or is this just a personal guess?

[@killer-gaming]

My question is don't they have cameras??? See who entered the room. And Sandile had to entered the room. Oh the security is so great ok so how did no one see him on the cameras ???? Dam if their cameras system is that bad maybe install more cameras!

[@andriab8517]

That first story shocked me. Not because of what happened to Sandele, but because the police took a missing persons report seriously

[@biggunz29xx]

I mean in most othet countries missing people reports are taken seriously. Just look at the second story and the incompetence in the American justice system.

[@Menuki]

Well, when the police do it usually ends up is a rescue or a more serious crime that overshadows competent police

[@shannondyke3585]

@@biggunz29xx Your right unfortunately

[@EclipseSeth]

@@morgan-5171 If he was on drugs it would show in the autopsy. It didn't.

[@KurtLesterishere]

I'm from Durban and can honestly say it's amazing considering SAPS track record.

[@williamrae9954]

The last story reminded me of the Turpin family...Jordan, who escaped, and has since managed to carve out a social media career,is a wee hero to me,she saved her siblings!

[@d.5432]

The police and honestly the entire system absolutely failed Brian. The story is heartbreaking from start to finish.

[@kennyhiggins7806]

The police went to Brian’s house and knocked, No one answered. Well, “Brian must have gone out of town”. Nothing going on here!!

[@Sinsteel]

Mainly the DA failed. Was probably the guy who got recalled for letting so many dangerous criminals go.

[@joshperkins5974]

No, California failed him. Why anyone would want to live there is beyond me. My friends home was broken into there and one of the robbers actually left his wallet at my friends house and the system still didn’t arrest the guy. Said just because his wallet and I.d we’re there doesn’t mean he broke into you’re house.

[@Inspectorzinn2]

Welcome to the San Francisco justice system. The most liberal city in the state.

[@TourGuideForGame]

@@joshperkins5974 Remember that when pigs demand multi million dollar budgets every year for sitting on their asses. Instead of funding proper training, mental health workers, or any other kind of person to actually reduce crime, it funds SWAT teams, guns, and donuts. Oh and it funds government payouts for victims of police brutality.

[@brothersbrothas414]

Everyone: Brian is missing Police: No he's not. His house is right there Everyone: His killers should be imprisoned Justice system: Nah

[@rene1054]

Everyone: There are strange people now using his home Police: and now? Seems innocent Everyone: They are cleaning the house with bleach and repainting the front Police: So helpful young men Everyone: Now they hired a private criminal scene cleanup crew Police: Okay will you stop calling when we catch one and set him free again?

[@tracyjames4386]

Seriously. Wtf. Neighbors: hes missing Police: we knocked on the door. Seems he not here. Strange dudes: using his money and his house while his dismembered body decomposes The law: yep well.. Oh well.

[@autumnfall8829]

Everyone: where did this all happen? Narrator: San Francisco Everyone: Ohhhhh...ok, figures.

[@jacquelinedeigan776]

Yeah..not much sense in that system concerning that poor man

[@f0repl4y]

Sounds accurate for San Francisco.

[@lloydrobert6182]

Why do people only disappear into 'thin' air? Would thicker air be a preventive measure?

[@rebeccagable9629]

LOL

[@E-Kat]

Higher we get, further away we get, the thinner the air gets. So, he disappeared very far away.🙂

[@lloydrobert6182]

@@E-Kat LOL

[@mvannorden02]

Lol 😂

[@hasinik7861]

Lmao😂😂😂

[@leitha567]

I love how they opened the storage room under the stairs 4 DAYS into searching the home xDDDD what were they doing before? Asking the walls some questions?

[@PraiseJudithSternkopf]

This is the funniest sentence here haha 😂😂 lmao, love the sarcasm here!!

[@patriciamcguire9958]

I like how no one smells anything, until they are a foot away. 😳 Nope nothing to see here.

[@FigaroHey]

​@@patriciamcguire9958 The body was submerged in chemicals. That could mask the smell, obviously. Plus if the store room was padlocked, it could have taken time to get access.

[@paulworgan6599]

@@patriciamcguire9958They should have brought in a cadaver search Dog.

[@Magumbo58]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1llovonne]

As a South African I want to commend the narrators pronounciation of all the first cases names. The care he’s taken to ensure he delivers those names clearly and confidently shows respect especially to Sandile! RIP x

[@austinvalentine6126]

Same here, I also really hope something comes to light with this case eventually

[@alejandriagoodwin4234]

The care he’s taken ? Girl to pronounce a name ? 😭😭🤣

[@franceswatts4001]

Pity they didn’t pronounce it correctly. San-dee-lee. Not Sahn-der-lay.

[@BraveMouse2292]

@@franceswatts4001 for sure, although more like sun-dee-leh 😉

[@Adam_Outdoors]

The narrator is a ext to speech program, no a real person lol

[@chelscleveland2361]

The second case just baffles me?? After everything the neighbors seen, how the hell are the cops not going to take things seriously ?? I can't even. No one even found guilty. What a piss off.

[@tablescissors]

Tbh, it's typical San Francisco justice.

[@chelscleveland2361]

@@tablescissors absolutely awful.

[@horatioguevara7597]

It’s hard to prosecute a homicide based on purely circumstantial evidence

[@prioris55555]

@@horatioguevara7597 really. not when the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. they should be able to prosecute them as accessories to murder. police don't need any evidence to prosecute. just a willing jury to convict. that's why lawyers tell innocent clients to take the plea bargain. Cases like this should set off alarm bells. police who went along should be removed for police force.

[@horatioguevara7597]

@@prioris55555 there has to be a lot of circumstantial evidence for it to work, and it has to be of an extremely high quality

[@Strathaczar]

They found a torso in a fish tank with no head and the hands cut off. "The medical examiner determined it to be homicide". Well, I did not need to be told that. If the medical examiner looked at it and said "Musta been a heart attack", I'd start to question how that person became a medical examiner and what school he attended to do so.

[@ivechang6720]

You might be appalled to find out what little is required in some areas to get that job. Ask a Mortician did a segment on it.

[@ivechang6720]

@Mermaid unicorn That's a problem though because they are supposed to be basing it on medically scientific fact. Not general layperson guesswork.

[@laurafranich4807]

Probably not a suicide either

[@marithomas2749]

Ha, I thought the same thing

[@esethuntloko3288]

Lmaooo died of natural causes 😂

[@jadeybaby007]

There is another case in a South African hospital that is very much the same. The man who went missing in the other case could barely move and disappeared within seconds of his nurse stepping literally outside his door to get a blanket. His remains were found in a different wing of the hospital, in a wall that he couldn’t possibly have access too. 😮

[@mxd-1990asn]

Yeah def creepy…

[@nikc1520]

Sounds like a serial killer works in that hospital.

[@jadeybaby007]

@@nikc1520 A killer ghost maybe. The body was found in a small space between two walls with no signs of structural damage or disturbance and no cause of death could be determined. Totally bizarre! 😬

[@Susan-kd3rv]

It might have been the maintenance person , they’re used to being in tight spaces , an crawl into very small spaces for his work etc electrical and pipes .

[@jadeybaby007]

@@Susan-kd3rv Impossible. Even for a maintenance person! The wall was completely sealed with no entry or exit point. 🫣

[@tinat7004]

I can’t believe that those 2 men haven’t been made accountable for killing and dismembering that poor man. It’s a sad sad world sometimes

[@riotgrrrl5924]

Sick, sad, world.

[@cathecavanaugh615]

You can say that again . corruption abounds

[@KevinM491]

It's San Francisco, no surprise

[@novice5895]

The lgbt+ community is often discriminated against by law enforcement. So tragic😔. RIP Brian Egg🕊. His friends & family should’ve pushed the DA for charges😡.

[@dlane7539]

@@novice5895 Distract Attorneys for many large blue cities are Pro Criminal. Its sad & disgusting because victims are no longer the DAs focus. I am frustrated as you are about LBGTQ victims not receiving justice. And right now they are trying to remove some of those DAs that are more about activism instead of justice

[@nonie007]

The first case of Sandile Sibiya. He was definitely murdered by the hospital staff since the store room could only be accessed by a hospital staff and the murderer knew that its impossible for him to carry a dead body out of the hospital,thats why he put the dead body in the ceiling. Btw, no cctv inside or outside the store room?? Thats weird. There should be a cctv camera outside the store room (hallway).

[@hopeforsakochi2733]

Some people have been found dead in ceilings in other hospitals in South Africa...how terrible. A murderer works in hospitals.

[@kebaletilemfolo5104]

@@hopeforsakochi2733 Yoh😳

[@prioris55555]

Lifting the body to ceiling required two people. One from below and other from above. They did not give cause of death. There should have been cctv cameras on who went in or out especially a store room. .

[@prioris55555]

@@hopeforsakochi2733 Yikes. Not even safe in hospital.

[@judas2891]

That segment made the hair on my hands stand on end. It was so creepy.

[@jademoon7938]

Apparently a neighbour of my friend who lives in a very small community had a bunch of kids running around their house all the time, but they didn't really see adults as much, aside from them coming and going. One day they went over there and walked just inside the door to the kitchen for whatever, idk what it was, but they could tell there were a bunch of people in one bedroom in the back. They were trying to be quiet but my friend could still hear them. They thought it was weird as they stood in the kitchen alone while the neighbour went into the back room. They saw a baby car seat and what they thought was a doll in it, on the floor under the table. Turns out it was a baby, the people were smoking crack, and had just left the baby alone. They were there for at least 5 minutes and the baby didn't even move. When the kids were taken and given to a relatively nearby relative, they said the baby didn't cry and went to the doctor, who told them that it had likely been so neglected that it had given up crying because no one ever came. Absolutely gut wrenching. You really don't know what's going on under your nose.

[@signsfrombeyond4863]

I am so grateful that these neighbors went and checked on the situation. That saved those kids' lives. I wish more people out there would really try harder when they see potentially abusive situations taking place- if everyone just ignores it and turns a blind eye- horrible things can happen.

[@hannahlee1740]

I know someone who is 13 and STILL never cries because of how neglected he was in his first WEEKS of life. It’s crazy.

[@jademoon7938]

@@hannahlee1740 That's really sad. Yeah my cousin is one of the social workers in the area so I got limited info on the baby, just because I asked what happened to it, since everyone knows about what happened. Even the Blank Face experiment showed that a few seconds of non-response from their mother causes babies intense distress and can cause trauma. So to do that to a baby all the time.. It must do severe damage to their brains for life. Like they'll have severe issues and won't fully get that it's because of neglect as an infant. They won't have conscious memories of it but the brain and body remember.

[@fyt00000]

​@@jademoon7938 Wow like with masks on during covid plandemic-the babies saw no facial expressions...

[@jademoon7938]

@@fyt00000 You misunderstood. It's the mother's lack of response that is distressing to the baby. It's not about seeing facial expressions in general. If a child only ever interacted with people wearing masks, that would likely impact them, but that's not what happened during the pandemic. At home everything was still normal.

[@asymone87]

Shot out to the narrator .....like he's the man here. Always pronounces everything right and takes the time to clearly explain and has the perfect tone leaving viewers interested and in suspense. Love EWU !!

[@Chipszskje]

Exept for all the Dutch names lol

[@ayebatarijuliapaxagiri2767]

12:56 .....

[@cindoz1289]

He does even on google it says 6 children and 5 children and 99% of reports also say they where all adults

[@Roisinmcgrannachan15]

My favourite chanel to watch he makes it so more interesting

[@wedontknow6428]

In the second case... the police made me really angry, things would be so much different if they had investigated harder!

[@effaitch7629]

Tired of the police making assumptions in the cases of missing persons which cause them to take no action - There needs to be a set of unfailing rules for them to follow instead!!

[@niineisra]

Lazy ass police

[@sb.1035]

could have went into his place as a welfare chek at least seriously 2 weeks later

[@EdwardXbot3]

If those cops would have looked and tried harder in the beginning there would have been more of the body as well as more evidence.They had over two months to clean up the crime scene and drain his bank accounts and try and buy a getaway car.”Stupid..Yeah It Was...Very Stupid”.

[@smokeystudios6754]

For the innocents to not be falsely accused of a crime...sometimes they have to let people go

[@stellahoney8864]

You’re telling me they moved into his home, hired a crime scene cleaning company, make purchases with his card,But they’re not guilty?

[@CKBBonitabeachbum]

"STELLA !"

[@naymonique2224]

Not guilty for any of it 🤦🏾‍♀️ Smfh

[@_.-._.-.]

To play devil's advocate here, the guys probably claimed that they didn't know the body was there and simply moved into a vacant house and hired scene cleaners because they found blood, and there's no way to fully or reliably disprove that. Not sure how they could explain away them using his credit cards, though.

[@joshperkins5974]

Only in California

[@truth4004]

and the only ones seen going in the house.

[@ssharkbait]

I feel like with Brian’s case the police dropped the investigation and didn’t charge those guys cause they didn’t want to get caught up in being blamed for not investigating a missing person case properly.

[@blueroses4767]

sounds about right

[@grmpEqweer]

Possible.

[@iamatlantis1]

This is the best explanation for how they were allowed to completely get away with it that I've seen.

[@frankvandorp2059]

The DA dropped the charges, not the police.

[@nunull6427]

@@frankvandorp2059 oh, go figure.

[@tsulofelobelinda448]

As a South African who had no idea of such a case of Sandile, thank you so much for including us in your true crime. May Sandile’s soul Rest In Peace

[@ElSantoLuchador]

Did you hear about Teteteke Gqotsi? Also in South Africa, also found dead in the ceiling.

[@visceralization]

I live in a big city, and it's crazy to think that literally any one of the buildings here could be hiding horrors like this.

[@66hoodwitch]

I live in Chicago, in the city ,and walk a lot..I often wonder same things ..I walk and look at things, I like observing and studying everything ...its fascinating yet so scary to imagine the secrets these buildings can possibly hide...

[@auroraborealis6009]

Was that a real question?

[@gatsby66]

So not just any building, but literally any one of the buildings? That's scary!

[@newforestpixie5297]

the folks living in Suburbs & Villages in affluent southern England can be so insular , it wouldn’t surprise me at all & our local paper has covered examples where it takes a letterbox oozing flies to raise awareness or bother neighbours enough that Police are called in to find a decomposed body in front of his telly.

[@Swampzoid]

If my brother was missing, after a few days I would enter his house however way I could and find out what's going on.

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

That is exactly what I thought. If you knew he was living alone you would break in

[@imonoke7903]

No! You dont break into your brothers house! I will call the police if you broke into any house! Remember that!!!! Break in is a crime!!!

[@jessicajingle8012]

@@imonoke7903 hush 🤫

[@sagnorm1863]

Good idea. Then you could cuddle with your brother in the fish tank too.

[@lllKTG]

@@imonoke7903 anime pfp logic

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

Can't get over that the killers had a professional crime scene cleaning company come in.

[@riotgrrrl5924]

Yeah and they didnt even find the torso in a fish tank under the stairs.

[@subblonde3101]

@@riotgrrrl5924 😂😂

[@lenacheney]

That's pretty ingenious though. They aren't going to think a killer hired them

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

@@lenacheney fair point

[@babamoeensam7.1.14]

No, no,no, they aren't killers, just 2 nice strangers that came across that man's empty house & decided out of the kindness of their hearts to deep clean it 😤😤😤

[@Vinlaell]

Can't believe a private crime scene cleanup company worked for hobos without asking any questions wtfff

[@birdphotosandvideos213]

Money does that

[@Vinlaell]

@@birdphotosandvideos213 money to ignore code violations is one thing but covering up bodies is another

[@made-line7627]

Can't believe there's such a thing as a private crime scene clean-up company

[@booognish]

@@made-line7627who else is gonna do it? It’s left to the family/property owners, who then hire companies to do it.

[@made-line7627]

@@booognish I thought it was in relation to doing forensics and stuff like that. Obviously misunderstood haha

[@MidnightSonnet]

In Brian's case, I'm way more focused on the judge just suddenly dropping the case. That's incredibly unusual behavior for a judge and he should be investigated. He might've been paid off or he knew the murderers personally and constantly helped them stay free. This case needs to be opened up again by a new set of eyes. There are far too many suspicious things in that case.

[@Ruintheus]

Lol

[@kygost]

Lack of evidence

[@JSPRshots]

Out of every possible answer to this, this is probably the least likely one

[@naturemann6037]

With so many suspicions in mind with why all charges were dropped This story might not be accurate or even true. I know the legal system is weak in California but not this weak & seems like it's almost fake

[@TentenchiAMVs]

@@kygost I agree. The problem was most likely that they couldn't specifically pin murder on them. They could have been two guys that saw an opportunity to move into a house with a dead guy and made the situation work for them. But they were still involved with the crime scene as a whole. Not sure why the whole case would be dropped. >_

[@kadyk4185]

The first story was WILD! Poor Sandele, the hospital knows what happened and is clearly covering it up.

[@jewels3596]

I agree. No way he got there by himself...and unseen!

[@kaarlimakela3413]

We heard nothing about cause of death. WTF is THAT about? In a building full of doctors? South Africa isn't all that backward ... there are even a handful of experts on dried up and ancient bones probably within a driving distance. We can identify what killed numerous Pharoes of 3,500 years ago ... The guy was not well served ... Logic dictates he was murdered.

[@Menuki]

@@jewels3596 what doesn’t add up is if the hospital was trying to cover it up, they could have easily disposed or a body or falsify a cause of death

[@AnnabelleJARankin]

@@kaarlimakela3413 South Africa is not particularly safe though

[@stephanusbuys8051]

Common thing in S-A. Public hospitals are a death trap.

[@faye4426]

I'm over here wondering where the two strangers get their boldness from to go in and out of Brian's house without thinking if his neighbors would be suspicious of them or not. Even having a criminal case cleanup van parked just outside his house. I think these men knew they'd get away with their crimes if they're that bold.

[@BijinMCMXC]

They got it from it’s SAN FRANCISCO

[@Cec9e13]

I'm just absolutely baffled at how long it took anyone to report Brian MISSING to begin with.

[@GingerTurquoise]

My jaw dropped to the floor with that Brian case. I've seen some terrible acts of justice but that one takes the cake! I hope the family is able to get some form of justice soon!

[@jimmy5516]

At that point i would do it myself. I dont care if im punished for it lmao.

[@mofoeugen]

@@jimmy5516 a murderer of murderers, is just a murderer.

[@marcuscreed3903]

@@mofoeugen Okay batman. Such stupid and childish thinking.

[@hawk71432]

There is no justice in San Francisco. The Commies let criminals free

[@ninedaysjane2466]

@@mofoeugen And?

[@lubabe9969]

Where's the woman or women that had kids with that monster Garret? I'm glad the older boy helped his siblings escape, he's a true hero.

[@maudifleming2317]

Ok I’m sorry I’m going through my

[@maudifleming2317]

Ok

[@maudifleming2317]

I’m

[@jennnnnnn9422]

Possibly/probably dead(?)

[@ladycolineclerboisdeglenco9125]

She's dead since 2004.

[@michellewalsh1150]

Calling Gerret an evil genius, could be glamourising his crimes-I cannot see what so intellectually impressive about holding 9 children hostage and abusing them, or have I missed something,Huh??

[@marieketie]

Nah, he wasn't an evil genius from what I heard in the interviews with some of his children. He was a mad religious person who basically ran his family as a cult.

[@TheStar798]

I think the "evil genius" moniker in the press was referring to the money laundering and fraud, not the child abuse 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@cheerinos9451]

He even repeatedly slept with two of the daughters who were under 17 and they still love and care for him and they think the government saving them was bad. That’s some crazy shit

[@michellewalsh1150]

@@cheerinos9451 thats brain washing-abusers are good at that!

[@megugu2155]

i think "genius" is a morally neutral word.

[@bluerev]

The way the police handled the Brian Egg case is beyond comprehension. Infuriating from start to finish.

[@throow]

A long time ago, a lawyer told me, that the most lazy people in any occupation is the police. Time and time again, after watching these true crime videos, I have to agree with him.

[@laiyalaiya6088]

@@katiedotson704 isn’t that was defund the police means? I could’ve sworn it was symbolizing how América needs other authority organizations to help in certain situations without the situation becoming deadly or dealing with people who have mental illnesses?

[@Ken-gv6sb]

I’m sure if you asked many police you’d hear that they have a similarly negative opinion of lawyers. For that matter lawyers, with their awful reputations, are the last people that should be criticizing any another profession

[@throow]

@@Ken-gv6sb I am not a criminal, but I have been in contact with the police a few times in my life and they did actually leave me that impression, that they are lazy and you can't count on them when you need them. My lawyer have all ways been there when I needed him.

[@Msboochie2]

@@katiedotson704 Exactly, it seems they want to confuse people by choosing inappropriate slogans to describe their cause. I felt the same way about Black Lives Matter, they definitely wanted cause confusion around that cause.

[@teapea85]

The police in the simpsons is a good representation 👌🤣

[@shirlzdey951]

The story about Sandile was very sad. Both those hospitals are real s***holes. How can anyone get into the ceiling with a broken leg. As far as it goes, someone did something to him.

[@101Boka]

Obviously no one here are South Africans...

[@markymark443]

Yeah how was there not a single surveillance camera that captured his whereabouts that entire time? Unless he escaped through the ceiling of his own hospital room but then why wasn't there a loose ceiling tile noticed in that room?

[@hwdareu5848]

Probably inside hospital job.

[@Roselady7]

Someone should should be doing fingerprints all in that room. Pro a AKT too late now..

[@electricz3045]

Ok but why you trying to censor "shitholes" it's not forbidden or anything like that also if you don't want to say such words just choose other ones.

[@geena_g3387]

I can't believe that is a real story!?? Brian Eggs family and friends must be outraged, I am and don't even know the poor man. Pretty much because they never confessed the police and DA can't prosecute??? This case infuriates me like the Casey Anthony case. SMH

[@jamesl9371]

Police should never assume anything. They should keep an open mind and look into and investigate thoroughly

[@NG-fk6wc]

Narrator: Brian's death was ruled a homicide Me: You don't say . Narrator: the two guys were let go Me: What the actual fuck!

[@lailahepburnandmischka]

🤣🤦‍♀️🤣

[@xaviervalverde6389]

I can’t believe it took the San Francisco police department that long to take Brian’s disappearance seriously and finally do something! Thank god for his neighbors

[@commonsense5188]

Yea no shit. Siblings keep calling stating brother is missing and that it's out character. All they do is stop by and knock after being badgered. Neighbors call SEVERAL times stating the same to no avail. Finally cops receive call that there is a crime scene cleaning van at Brian's house. Cops finally think "well, maybe we should look into this." Disgusting.

[@machineelf9459]

@@commonsense5188 yea and wth is up with people being able to pay for a “private crime scene cleaning company”. Surely they should only be working with police, no? Lol

[@arvyknowsbest]

I believe it. My state has the highest murder rate in the country, robberies and drug use rampant in my town and the police do jack shit.

[@marcorizzoni9766]

@@machineelf9459 Usually the private are the ones that have to call and pay for the cleaning scene (after the police has given permission to do it), not the police. It’s not part of the police job to do it, nor is the state to pay for it if the scene is in a private area.

[@jessicajingle8012]

I also can't believe it took them 4 days of searching his house to find a storage room at the bottom of the stairs.

[@Faesharlyn]

Flowers in the Attic was not meant to be an instruction manual..

[@FreckledWhispersASMR]

oh my God I was thinking the same

[@Faesharlyn]

@@effaitch7629 a book series about children hidden in an attic.. there may be a movie but I'm not sure..

[@effaitch7629]

@@Faesharlyn Okay.. thanks!

[@amaterasxu5333]

@@Faesharlyn there is a movie about it. That's how I know about it personally, super sad.

[@CathyDoll-qb7og]

@@Faesharlyn There is a movie on KZbin.

[@Mr_.G]

Probably the LARGEST collection of stock footage I've ever seen in one video.

[@lexadreaming7208]

Where is the justice for Brian Egg? If I were his family, I would be suing the sh*t out of the state of California for woeful negligence, not just for letting two killers go free, but for neglecting to do ANYTHING to search for a missing man despite an entire neighborhood and concerned family begging police to investigate his disappearance. This is absolutely horrific.

[@TraceguyRune]

California has to worst legal system in the world due to their politics. There is no hope for them

[@meegansandberg1308]

The video mentioned that Brian wor😢at a gay bar. Was Brian gay himself? That might explain the indifference of the police and negligence of the justice system, at least in part. 😮

[@Aochso]

​we dont live in 1960 anymore. Most likely the judge is in some way related to the murderers of brian. Nonetheless a really gruesome and disgusting case.

[@crazyluigi6664]

Two likely killers. Might be missing one more named Nate...

[@tombreckinridge6218]

“I just hope who ever did this doesn’t get away with it” -Scott Free

[@autisticsimon12]

GO and unsubscribe to this KZbin channel. ITS DUMBING YOU DOWN with its stupid annoying computer generated voice and AI generated stupid stock video clips that have nothing to do with the story. Please friend unsubscribe now! IT completed generated by AI and is so full of error and faults and is hjust so mind numbingly dumb PLEASE STOP WATCHING or are you a fool?

[@SnowBunz999]

This made me chuckle, thank u

[@montsegamboa8555]

A lot of doctors are also of sociopathic tendencies I think the staff knows more

[@riotgrrrl5924]

Same

[@africacarey]

Agree

[@enderkatze6129]

Interesting how the dutch police were able to respond to a call about a weird dude making a weird claim within a day, but american police refused to properly investigate someone confirmed missing for months by dozens of people for the longest time.

[@ChloesColdEars111]

The first guy couldve been taken for organs, by higher ups in the hospital. They mightve found hes a match for a super wealthy client and bam, gone.

[@babagama4232]

Yes.most probably..

[@auroraborealis2442]

Really? I know they do it in China, but in SA? whoa

[@ChloesColdEars111]

@@auroraborealis2442 they do it everywhere. just watched a doc by Patryk Vega, Eyes of The Devil its about that and other stuff. its on youtube, its disturbing to say the least

[@ChloesColdEars111]

@@marionfriedenthal7352 ​ dont be ridicuious, its not cute to act like you really believe they took the organs while they were all in the ceiling. Obviously there is a ton of cash involved in black market organ dealing and ts not at all difficult to imagine a small staff of a few people being paid very nicely to pull organs on a man they know nothing of, they probably didnt even know he was a patient before this. They dont tell others anything unless its need to know, thats how they can pull things like this off without everyone going down like dominoes when the body is discovered. Usually they dispose of it in different places, not a ceiling in the same hospital, but its possible. I dont put anything past anyone when money is involved. You know good organs can fetch upwards of $70,000 US or more, probably more

[@ChloesColdEars111]

@@marionfriedenthal7352 everyone can calm down, it was simply my attempt at trying to make sense of it, not trying to pass anything off as fact, just my own opinion, yall can relax and calm down really

[@oberyncarzer5620]

As a healthcare worker in Durban, South Africa. I’ve worked at these hospitals. You don’t understand the state of government hospitals here 💀 patients frequently go missing, because of overcrowding and lack of resources.

[@DoctorSess]

Aka negligent homicide

[@readilium3432]

In US it is estimated that the medical system is the second leading cause of death, whether it be due to malpractice, or just the "medicines" prescribed.

[@whispermcgaughy7251]

I can't help but think that discrimination is playing a role in how Brian's case is being treated..🧐 With all the circumstances and evidence, there's no reason for that case to not be solved and prosecuted..

[@petralehto3825]

If the cops had done more when the suspicions were first raised this case most likely wouldn't be unsolved. The culprits had soooo much time to destroy evidence right under everybodys noses. 😣

[@tablescissors]

Favoritism is shown to the homeless in that city

[@daisyvandeveire1397]

@@petralehto3825 by ñ

[@firewaterbydesign]

EXACTLY!!!

[@TotemoGaijin]

In San Fran though?

[@forgyen]

The first case is so puzzling. Did he get himself in the ceiling? Why would he ? How did he access a room only accessible by staff, and why the ceiling? What did he die of ? Did someone murder him ? For what ? How on earth do you put a 53 yo healthy man into a ceiling ? It's going to keep me awake at night I NEED TO KNOW

[@ice9557]

One of the strangest cases I’ve ever heard of did you know someone else was found dead in the ceiling there few years later

[@forgyen]

@@ice9557 i didn't know that WHAT ON EARTH

[@paran315]

I'm thinking some very rare neurological reaction to medication given to him? Which led him paranoid or psychotic that he tried to hide..Well this is the best I can come up with

[@Ruintheus]

@@paran315 he has a broken femur. That ain't just switching off his pain receptors. He would have had to stand on a chair to reach the ceiling! And then what? Died as soon as he got up there? From what??

[@florianmazreku3577]

@@Ruintheus if he got up there himself and got stuck he probably would have died due to suffocation or dehydration.

[@roxybryant7118]

I can't believe that police have not charged the 2 squatting thieves for murdering poor Brian, hiding his body, stealing his identity, his money and his house with all the furnishings! WOW! I Pray that You get justice someday soon Brian Rest In Peace 🙏

[@jessicahannah2522]

Police do not charge anyone with anything. Prosecutors do. Police do the investigating TO A POINT; when they have enough evidence, they take it to the prosecutor who decides to issue a warrant. This is with an investigation only. Police can and do arrest people on sight, but they have to present evidence within 72 hours to a prosecutor to determine charges, if any. Please, if you are going to condemn the justice system, learn how it works. People screaming about how police are ineffective (there are some----but it's very, very few) do not understand that the police are told what they can and cannot do re crime in the community. By the city council, the Mayor, the other governing bodies around them. There are laws the police have to follow also (no parking outside a bar and picking off drivers for DUI for instance). Search and seizure laws, incrimination laws and so much more. The ones to have anger towards in this case is the prosecutor/judge who decided to drop all charges because the evidence was circumstantial. San Francisco had a recall of it's District Attorney who was in charge of that case because he was notorious for not bringing charges for violent crimes. He was discharged from his job. SF is notorious for it's bad prosecution (not police) and allowing violent crime to run rampant. Even their own mayor went national saying that what was happening could not be tolerated or accepted---yet it continues to this day in spite of change of District Attorney and prosecutors. And why homeless and criminals are taking over the city. Wish you the best in your week ahead, and hope you have happy days :D

[@TH-hy9kr]

Even vigilante justice would be good in this case!

[@panniguin862]

Police can't do shit about it if the DA or Judge are shitters & keep releasing terrible people back out onto the street.

[@rebeccamurray9196]

How much more evidence do they need omg! They were in the house with the dismembered body, used his cards,cleaned up areas of the house. What more can a judge want. Disgusting!

[@ElSantoLuchador]

A judge can't do anything. It was the DA that chose not to bring the case to trial.

[@MaliohammadDesigns]

the DA should be sued by the family then @@ElSantoLuchador

[@gammaverygoodgirl8876]

That’s California law. The leftist lawmakers take pity on the criminal. We moved after living in California for 60 years. When Newsome began his evil regime, and leftists completely took over with wokism, the state has been systematically destroyed. The cops couldn’t do a thing, the prosecutors either. San Fransisco is a Pelosi degradation.

[@Lynn-zx3th]

Brian, and his family deserve justice!!

[@derpmanaveragegamer7791]

how tf do you do 3 welfare checks on a guy missing and just shrug your shoulders when literally no one answers the door.

[@peachhtid]

They cleary didnt do a proper check as they never went round the house

[@Your-Twisted-Go-Home]

I would have sued the SF police dept !

[@kerensa7349]

Some people sue them for entering without a warrant. Probably what they were trying to avoid. Unless someone has a key welfare checks aren't break in checks​@Your-Twisted-Go-Home

[@susanlammers3332]

The case about gerrit and josef is strange. Because later on in the Netherlands the found an instagram account from one of the children. When this happend it was on the news for like weeks. It was really big

[@habibasamreen]

is the account still active? If yes, can u give me the username or something? Thankss..

[@susanlammers3332]

@@habibasamreen no unfortunately they took it down after it was found

[@martijnmakkkinga2886]

Ja, ik dacht ook al. -Dit komt me bekend voor.

[@krabpapier8100]

I remember that I heard on the news that he just walked into a pub and asked for a pint.

[@Investigativebean]

The second case is a good reminder to always let someone you trust know where you are.

[@michaelharrington75]

Heck, he was at home. And it's hard to let anybody know where you are when you're dead.

[@jadalove7982]

Hi everyone 🙏🏾✌🏾❤️ Have an Safe, Blessed, and Prosperous Evening

[@Fumblebeebyyourside]

U 2 ✨❣️

[@jadalove7982]

@@Fumblebeebyyourside Thank you 🙏🏾✌🏾❤️

[@JeanAnnMarie]

Thank you❤️ Same to you🌸🌷❤️

[@michellecarter3856]

You to 🙏❤️

[@That_Thicc_Cat]

You too!

[@OS_SWE]

Brians neighbor was actually named Scott Free? LOL

[@RUDEBOYY2K80]

Poor Brian. ❤️ I’d love to hear about someone who’s done a deep dive on the whole court case. If there is such a video please leave me a link. Thanks in advance for any help.

[@traciemartin3785]

Since these stories are true, those who are causing horrific abuse, damage to and even possibly murdering others should not be protected. Their faces and names should be placed in the media, especially when they have harmed innocent children & people. So sickening. May God bless them and their families.

[@Momuv5]

That makes me so angry 😠. Why should these animals receive any common courtesies. Did their victims?

[@bonez1614]

Am I the only one that doesn’t understand what she just said?-

[@roxanne5077]

Very true. Its horrible because eventually some of these monsters will be released from custody and people will have no idea who they are & they end up finding more victims. It feels like societies/justice systems are more interested in protecting the criminals more than the innocent victims. It will never make sense to me why & how they allow these monsters anonymity.

[@opalmarie8466]

@@bonez1614 yes. Yes you are.

[@Momuv5]

@@opalmarie8466👍🏾

[@MsNoPixel]

The police act like they were surprised to find Brian dead yet it was VERY clear to everyone else that, that was the outcome.

[@skorza212]

Crime scene cleaners accepting private contracts is super suspicious. I’d take a close look at their work record. If hired privately I think they should be referred to as “evidence removers”

[@DanishButterCookie]

Its not unusual in many countries, for some its the landlords responsibility to clean up any waste or hire someone to do it. For the cleanup crew it was just another day on the job.

[@writerconsidered]

Crime scene cleanup crew is a bit of a misnomer. They are bio-hazard cleaners, They are usually under the umbrella tag of flood fire mold cleaners. Bio-hazard cleaning usually involve non-criminal bio-hazards such as a bleed out, or body fluid expulsion. Basically medical without a crime. They will cleanup crime scenes but that's after the cops do their job and the owner of the property contracts with them. State has nothing to do with it.

[@ornellabernacchia2494]

I cannot believe that a brother or a sister is not concerned with not hearing of a sibling for months!

[@MsMCRlove]

For real! If I don't hear from my brother within 12 hours I'm worried

[@stacyfrazierbauer8811]

I don't ever talk to my brother unless a family member is dead. Although he did contact me after I went to rehab just to lecture me.

[@42calking53]

@@stacyfrazierbauer8811 at least he hasn't given up on you !

[@slapahoe69]

Not everyone is close to their siblings bruh

[@djquinn11]

@@stacyfrazierbauer8811 : Hope your doing well and it takes courage to go to rehab. All the best!

[@craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185]

How in the world did they not have enough evidence to convict those guys in the second story? Very strange that those charges just got dropped like that. I've seen cases with less evidence get convicted. That seemed pretty much open and shut to me.

[@whothegnuareyou8682]

I don't want to pull the gay card but in the UK there was a serial killer who literally got away with murder for years despite leaving all his victims bodies in the same place. They were all last seen at gay clubs so we're clearly on drugs and deviants who all conveniently od'd in the same place. 🙄. It doesn't surprise me that they just brushed over it and moved on. Police are as bad as most criminals for lies, corruption & discrimination

[@StofStuiver]

Its indeed very suspicious. There seems to be plenty of 'evidence' to convict them. Maybe not for murder, but at least for a number of other things (tampering with evidence, etc). There is a chance they let them go, bc they lawyered up and its going to be hard to convict them for murder. You cant try them again. So stopped the prosecution leaves the possibility to try them later, when they have more evidence. For instance if one of them admits to someone that they did this....

[@brandonmartin2432]

They'll mysteriously find a spec of blood under a name tag 7 years later that just happened to get over looked by forensics investigators. If they want you, they get you. If they don't then they don't.

[@brandonmartin2432]

None of the neighbors took pictures. No one spoke with the clean up crew and it they witnessed anything?

[@robinright825]

A neighbor named 'Scott Free' ? Scott's parents should be arrested for child abuse.

[@godofgods9432]

I love when police get flooded with calls of concern for someone by people who actually know them and they respond “he went on vacation and didn’t tell you” like wtf is that

[@dreena7870]

Brian’s case was just sad.. the police and his family failed him. 😭🥺

[@frankkilama5974]

V true

[@linziRyan1965]

His family did all that they could wtf are you talking about???

[@dreena7870]

@@linziRyan1965 you clearly didn’t watch the video so WTF are you talking about?? F*** out of here B

[@dreena7870]

@@linziRyan1965 his MOTHER failed him!! just shut up you’re like 14 why are you here

[@fransantelli]

it seems to have intentionally been swept under the rug by the prosecutor. it's the judicial system that needs to be held accountable. absolutely disgusting!! and as others have mentioned, it's california, where the judicial system is pro-criminal.

[@steendful]

The 1st story, I think maybe the man was given pain medication for his leg injury and maybe he started hallucinating, went up into the roof and died. It didn't say what he died of, that makes a difference. 2nd story.. Omg! How could these 2 men be let go. They even hired a crime scene clean up crew. Does not sound like the police did their job or didn't care about the victim . Very sad. The 3rd story, did they do DNA on all the children? To verify whom is their father?, mother? Very sad case.

[@d.thomasmoore3020]

YES....After all that poor effort and no interest in doing anything like a 'proper job' by the San Franciscan police.....no justice for Mr. Egg. Appalling! Doesn't it make it seem like there is so much WRONG with the justice system in the USA? The rest of the world can get it right. Look at South Arica (or was it India?) and in The Netherlands those police were way more interested in doing their jobs and actually investigated from the first 'warning sign'....unlike the San Francisco police who never investigated anything until they could no longer ignore it. Then it was still too late....unbelievable, shocking incompetence and callous attitude- the whole system in San Francisco is really screwed. His family should sue them all.

[@barbraworkman5122]

@@morgan-5171 nah! Just an old troll!

[@steendful]

@@ajamalaysiavar5540 as a nurse, I do know what people can do on pain medications and with severe injuries. If you killed someone your not going to hide them in the ceiling, it would take 2-3 people. Also, he was not in a locked room.

[@redskelf3374]

The space above the store room was only accessible to staff members. They don't seem to have considered that he may have been murdered and his body hidden up there. The decomposition could have covered up any injuries to his body.

[@ladycolineclerboisdeglenco9125]

For the 3rd case, they do DNA on all the children, they are siblings with same father and mother. The mother died in 2004.

[@may-xq8fz]

I remember when the family of the last crime got discovered, I’m Dutch and I live quite literally next to Ruinerwold. It was a crazy thing to hear about because a crime as big as this rarely happens in The Netherlands

[@sophiabright8371]

THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT... Given the stellar investigation, maybe there are others undetected by the people in charge of detecting and investigating these cases.

[@may-xq8fz]

@@sophiabright8371 Yes, you’re completely right about that!

[@janiceclark8770]

What about their mother?

[@myrthedejong130]

@@janiceclark8770 the mother died

[@gatsby66]

So you don't live next to Ruinerwold - you live quite literally next to Ruinerwold?

[@stephaniemcadam7979]

I’m so confused about how the first case ended in such mystery?? Was an autopsy done?? An investigation? Was he trying to escape and got stuck or was he murdered and shoved in the ceiling?? I need more info!

[@effaitch7629]

What of the mothers of these children? Six of them between the ages of 12 and 15!? Unless they are from multiple births (twins etc) there must be more than one mother!!

[@dalewright4676]

Where were the mothers?

[@SV-92]

There is a set of twins if i’m correct. The mother passed away years ago. The ages of the 5 kids found in the house were between 18-25.

[@effaitch7629]

@@SV-92 From where is your information stating they are all adults? The info here says otherwise

[@SV-92]

@@effaitch7629 from the media in The Netherlands (i am from The Netherlands, and there is a documentary airing right now, 4 episodes, where the 4 oldest children are giving their side of this story). There are multiple mistakes in this video. Few examples: the year the son who left the house and went to the cafe was not in october 2020, but october 2019. The 3 elder children were not all girls. But 1 daughter and 2 sons. And the news of the “fact” that they lied about their ages is nowhere to be found in the dutch media (as far as i can see, i tried to find it after watching this video). In an article written march of this year it states that the ages of the childeren at that time were 18-25. I guess there were some translation issues from dutch to english, but i might be wrong about the age statement, but as i said, in the most recent articles about this case it al states their ages were 18-25 at that time. Sorry for this long explanation and sorry for my lack of english skills🙃🙈

[@effaitch7629]

@@SV-92 Your English is fine, and i appreciate your response!

[@BChuckVT]

For that first case, I would expect that one of the hospital staff majorly messed up and gave Sandile a lethal dose of something unintentionally, killing him. Panicked, they probably ended up stuffing him up in the ceiling.

[@DoctorSess]

Yeah I think that’s most likely. An attempt to cover up negligence. Or it could be an “Angel of death” killer. There’s more of them than you would expect.

[@anonymouspeople4896]

Idk some guy from that area commented above and said Sandile wasn't the only suspicious death/hidden body there apparently that hospital was known for it! Idk how true that is

[@NoseyNana]

@@anonymouspeople4896 It's true, there was at least a 2nd case at the time I read it, maybe a couple of years ago.

[@marisaelyse82]

I LOVE that you tell stories that I haven't heard before. So many true crime and missing ect people tell the same stories over and over

[@naymeequillo]

I read the autobiography of that poor young man from Ruinerwold. It's an incredibly sad story. This man is insanely brave, really strong and unbelievably smart.

[@dreamingMonz]

So nice to hear a South African story, just so sad! Thank you for covering his story. Love, love, love your voice ❤ Sending Love from South Africa!

[@vukosilawrence5889]

Sandile Sibiya case melted my heart as a South African citizen

[@melissaq8854]

youre telling me two men killed this man and stuffed him in a fish tank and htey WERENT CHARGED!?!?!?!?!

[@ChaseTheHeat]

One of the reasons I love this channel is no mention of JSC. Time to get over it. For real.

[@Regularblackgirl]

What happens when the police are this incompetent as in Brian’s case? Absolutely 🤬 infuriating

[@WeThePeeps13]

Wha? Brian's case is exactly how killers elevate to "serial" status. Severely stumped.

[@JessicaO490Z]

As a side note, having your broken bone reset can hurt more than the first break (esp as the area is sensitized to pain by then).

[@lailahepburnandmischka]

yup, people scream like fuck having that done 😭😭😭

[@Real_Richmond_510]

What you said at the end is true.... we had no idea that right next door to us, a woman by the name of jaycee dugard was being held captive in a makeshift sound proof room in a backyard of the property and was missing for over 18 years from lake Tahoe. We always knew the neighbor and his wife were off, and seemed crazy, and he was not to be spoken too, and then one day on the porch of our house in high-school, we just see the house of Phillip and Nancy Garrido being raided by the sheriff's and then the fbi coming . We saw the woman being found alive, her children being rescued as well that the captors made with her and they then were at that house every day for weeks coming the property, then demolishing the house. You just never know what crazy ish is going on right next door to you.

[@vixcov]

Correction, Gerrit von D rented the farmhouse from the Austrian man and the 3 kids who left the family were two sons and one daughter. This is happening very close to me and its not all solved yet, Gerrit might not go to jail at all since he had a stroke and can't talk (allegedly)

[@tyjohnston5889]

For almost 70yrs old he looked in great shape. Probably the stress of being caught gave him a stroke. What a weirdo.

[@wtcnl]

@@tyjohnston5889 He had that stroke before everything was discovered

[@mrZargon1]

what about the mother?

[@vixcov]

@@mrZargon1 I believe the mother passed away years ago

[@Lizzifer7]

@@mrZargon1 died in 2004

[@jewels3596]

These are insane!!!! Why do such bad things seem to happen so often to good people? 🥺🥺 And where is the mother(s) of those kids?

[@Gioachina0279]

Because the good ppl are mostly naiv and thinking if i am positive and good so are others

[@thealwayssmileguy9060]

She died 10 years ago

[@deesdanmaar]

the mother became ill and died years ago. She agreed with her husbands ideas :(

[@sashewagiguere8827]

Why do ppl just say where was the mother ...you all do know it still takes a man and a women.....to make a baby Egg ...sperm...

[@tinaffable]

@@sashewagiguere8827 what?🤨 They were asking where the mother of those nine kids are, why would op look for the father when he is already the prime suspect?

[@nobletiger1730]

Safe to say I didn't expect my birthplace and childhood town of ruinerwold to come up in this video😅. Nice to see you guys did a video about this!

[@petralehto3825]

Does anybody know who's the mother/mothers of those children? And what happened to her/them..?? 😯

[@judith8604]

@@petralehto3825 the mother died right about 10 years ago sadly. The children have been guided and put into child protection services despite most of them being too old for the system usually, but since they had no place to go otherwise. What happened after is unknown and can only be conducted with watching the docuseries that's about to be aired as they've been protected since. Fortunately the country has a good system to shelter and guide them and provide them the therapy they need. One cannonly hoor they'll one Day overcome their trauma. Their father is in a hospital on internal mental health department due to physical and mental health issues.

[@TeresaMom1]

I wonder if Sandile Sibiya was killed and put in the ceiling on purpose. How else would a guy with a broken leg be able to climb up into the ceiling and why?

[@JSPRshots]

You can still climb with a leg and 2 arms, getting up there would take more upper body strength than lower so you wouldn't need to use your legs much besides getting a knee up. Putting a dead person in the ceiling would be harder than climbing up there with a leg that is broken. Who knows what happened though. My best bet is he climbed up there and was crawling around and died somehow, no clue why or how. What i think is weird is they didn't decide to check the ceiling, that would've been my first thought if they were so sure he wouldn't have been able to get out without being noticed.

[@kaizoku4005]

@@JSPRshots even if he climbed up then surely he would be able to get down. The place where he died was only accessible to staff so either he stole a staff card or a staff member let him in. It’s really strange unless he was killed and put in the roof somewhere.

[@sydnerxx]

Also doesn't make sense that these ceiling tiles could support weight on them for that long? But if he climbed up there himself, there would need to be a ladder underneath. I think someone killed him

[@JSPRshots]

@@sydnerxx i feel like he could easily pull himself up there's not just ceiling tiles and frames to grab up there, you wouldn't necessarily need a ladder, I think it'd be super hard to kill someone and haul their body up there. The average weight of a person being almost 200 lbs even if he was 180 you'd need a ton of strength to carry,pull, or push someone's limp body up a ladder

[@GaiaCarney]

Teresa - I fear Sandile Sibiya was killed by a hospital worker! With no ladder underneath the ceiling and a broken femur, it is unlikely he put himself there! Dirty dirty business

[@abigaelrubion3014]

The first person was gone missing, its 2019, what about CCTV??? What kind of hospital that has no camera in every corner.. The second case is unbelievable.. I cannot believe they let those criminals go.. Obviously they are suspect for brian egg.. The third case was full of bravery.. The man was really brave for telling his story and asking for help..

[@kissofshadows21]

I mean absolutely no disrespect to people of South Africa, but due to its economic situation it is considered a third world country. CCTV is probably not high on that hospital's priority list.

[@camikaye6795]

@@kissofshadows21 Actually, I’d be more hesitant when calling it a third world country. It is both a third word and first world country. As a South African who admittedly grew up privileged, all I knew was a life of luxury. Unfortunately, there is a lot of poverty in South Africa, as you know. But Durban (while a somewhat unsafe city) is not a third world area.

[@tinaffable]

@@camikaye6795 yes but the hospital itself is not the good type, it's the last option kind of hospital when you have nowhere else to go to. They're unfortunately not known to have a good service.

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@camikaye6795 Long-term consequences of Apartheid, ladies and gentlemen...

[@lailahepburnandmischka]

tbf I've only noticed camera near the entrances, not in random corridors and defo not on wards

[@lisae3663]

I don’t recall hearing anything in news about Brian Egg. I live right near San Francisco. Took way too long for anyone to figure out.

[@dmreddragon6]

What gets me is the cops didn't enter to do a wellness check on Brian even tho he was an older gentleman. I guess because they sisn't observe any tell-tale signs like a breakin, or the flies in the windows (indicate a likely corpse inside). Or they were just too lazy to even check that out.

[@quicksilverlacey]

Not anyone. His neighbors figured out something weird/wrong was going on fairly early on & tried to get the authorities to investigate multiple times. It was just lack of concern & effort of the police looks like.

[@Germatti13489]

Wow can you imagine Sandile going to the hospital with a broken leg and ending up dead and in the ceiling?! A Secure hospital? Then the case of Brian Egg, that seems like a case of lackadaisical police work. They didn't care when they knocked on his door the first time to make their half-hearted attempt at locating him when his neighbors were more worried about him than his family or the police. Wow. 👵

[@jessicahannah2522]

Volunteers do welfare checks, in order to free actual police officers to do other work. Volunteers are often elderly retired people. Having a 70 year old female do a door knock with no response, and no family calling to report a missing person (they didn't call for a long, long, long time btw) is not going to launch an investigation. There were no outward signs to be concerned about. Police in big cities often have HUNDREDS of 'welfare checks' to do in a week, so volunteers do them. 99.99 percent are people who are fine. You can't kick down doors of 99.99 percenet of the peoples doors because .01 percent may/may not have something wrong. Because even that .01 percent isn't the total of those who have an actual problem. It's .0001. So, stop jumping to conclusions and judging others when you don't know the situation or how things work other than in your own back yard. On top of that SF was so notorious for bad decisions on criminal prosecutions, that the entire city demanded a recall and fired their District Attorney for allowing decisions like this case. Be blessed and learn a few things in the world before going on a judgmental rant.

[@dannireacts781]

The rumble in his voice is just amazing!

[@jaymays8800]

EWU has some of the best narrators on KZbin. You guys have the best voices. Made exactly for content like this. ...J

[@rielah245]

I love EWU crew i practice my listening with your channel since English is not my native tongue.

[@trolluer]

You learn a langage, not a tongue your tongue is in your mouth, at least I think so I’m french myself so can’t really tell tou

[@annaheaney1708]

@@trolluer tongue works in this instance, just as language does :)

[@SA-Bean-Bean]

Also, remember- there are different ways to say the same exact thing- it depends on where you are from or where you currently live. Example: I would like a pop! Or I would like a soda! (And soda is the most correct one by the way lol 😂)

[@2degucitas]

He's easy to understand.

[@trolluer]

Ok, thanks for the explaination I was seeing it as a french, when we use different words they generaly are used in different situation, good to know 😉

[@YTNala]

I'm South African and the way he keeps saying Sandile is hilarious, so exotic, lol! But he says Sibiya very well. Thanks for the story, first time hearing about it.

[@jessicadecoteau1178]

How is it supposed be said? Is it like san-dial?

[@MelisJones95]

@@jessicadecoteau1178 no, not like that :) I'll try my best to explain it. San- like sun, di- like 'DI'ctionary and le- like LEg, so something like sʌn/dɪ/lɛ. I hope that helps. It's a beautiful name

[@AliValentine143]

Listen to the differences between 6:47 7:09 7:14 and 7:38 of pronunciations.

[@AliValentine143]

Ohh nvm I can't find it but one of the pronunciations was as said it should be but only once.

[@things_i_say5951]

0:58 In america, the most painful part is the bill.

[@lex9666]

Try being in Canada... 1000% worse.

[@things_i_say5951]

@@lex9666 Do you mean the wait? I'm curious and not fond of America. The wait here in America is anywhere between 1 hr to 3 hrs on average until a nurse calls your name, but it can take 6 hours if it's a busy night or low staff. I've taken my husband to the ER a lot. They triage things like life threatening bleeding obviously, but one time I had a kidney infection and crying in the waiting room from the pain and it took 3 hours for my name to be called. And, if you take an ambulance, it's minimum $2000 in San Francisco after insurance for just basic stability and transportation.

[@lex9666]

@things_i_say5951 Sadly not just the wait. We are charged on average 25% of our income towards basic health care. The government offers MAID long before treatment and the wait list isn't just for the ER. You can expect 10 years for a kidney. Socialized health care is amazing on paper but in practice the rich subjugation the poor.

[@things_i_say5951]

@@lex9666 Thanks. Yeah, I expected as much, cuz everything is just "same shit, different way." Eg French folks that move to America for a pay raise are stunned when they get a $5k medical bill, and then Americans that move to France for the free health care are stunned by being paid half as much.