SOLVED Cold Case With A SHOCKING Twist: True Crime Documentary & Solved Missing Persons Case

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3 жыл бұрын

Today, we're covering a solved cold case with a SHOCKING twist no one could have possibly seen coming. In this true crime documentary, we're covering the haunting disappearance of Jonelle Matthews. In 1984, Jonelle completely vanished from her home. For over 3 decades, Jonelle remained a missing person. No trace of Jonelle was ever found, even after an investigation by detectives - that is, until 2019, when a construction team unearthed Jonelle and cracked this case wide open. After Jonelle was found, this cold case quickly began to unravel, and in 2020, this missing persons case was solved - but it wasn't like anyone had possibly expected. Join us for a true crime storytime covering the case of Jonelle Matthews.
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@sunnyshayv
@sunnyshayv 3 жыл бұрын
middle aged and elderly people always talk about the “good ole days when you didn’t have to lock your doors” but they don’t realize that they were just in the “good ole days of no technology and slow information spread”
@gabrielavasquez7395
@gabrielavasquez7395 2 жыл бұрын
exactlyyyy
@justthatgirl-ct4jo
@justthatgirl-ct4jo 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. There have been studies done that show the world is no more dangerous than it was 100 years ago.
@distinctlydri2831
@distinctlydri2831 2 жыл бұрын
There was not a 24 hr news cycle which allowed for people to not be on edge.
@godblessamericamyhomesweet1094
@godblessamericamyhomesweet1094 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@loriburnip
@loriburnip 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe things haven't changed much in big cities like New York, LA, Toronto ETC.. but in smaller towns they sure have! My town is has tripled in size & crime rates have gone up with it. Lots of crime & junkies now. They came here because it's so beautiful & has a temperate climate, but it's not so beautiful anymore. ☹ I wish I could get my little hometown back the way it was.
@georgehill3087
@georgehill3087 Жыл бұрын
He was found guilty on Oct 31, 2022, and received 20 years to life. His earliest possible release will be 2042, at which point he will be 91. It's fairly safe to say that he'll die in prison.
@lizawake614
@lizawake614 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That is why I checked the comments.
@oblivious108
@oblivious108 Жыл бұрын
If so, good riddance.
@hekv6533
@hekv6533 Жыл бұрын
Finally 👍
@57abs
@57abs Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, but where’s the closure? Where’s the evidence that we need…
@forensicsherry3957
@forensicsherry3957 Жыл бұрын
@@57abs 😊
@cherryesma4269
@cherryesma4269 2 жыл бұрын
what scares me the most is the fact that she wasn’t outside at late hours of night she wasn’t in a shady place with dangerous people around she was in her OWN HOME watching tv may her soul rest in peace i hope her family are okay!!
@laurieb3703
@laurieb3703 8 ай бұрын
And to think of that creepy bastard peering in at that precious, Innocent little girl 💔💔💔
@user-xu5xj3ym4k
@user-xu5xj3ym4k Ай бұрын
i mean, child neglect. ignore your child so often that this type of thing is possible. it sure af wouldnt have happened if the parents were protective of their daughter.
@Gnasheress
@Gnasheress Жыл бұрын
It’s so sad to think she lay there, fragile, cold, alone, dead, for 30+ years. It’s just heartbreaking.
@nielss2773
@nielss2773 Жыл бұрын
He got life with parole
@TruthTeller20242
@TruthTeller20242 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how many victims are still laying out dead,cold and alone in the world unfound 😢
@ondreacounts2556
@ondreacounts2556 Жыл бұрын
@@nielss2773 No he didn't! His trial just started last month, October 2022!
@elfullin
@elfullin Жыл бұрын
@@ondreacounts2556 yeah and he got life with parole.
@icepick859
@icepick859 10 ай бұрын
@@ondreacounts2556he got life with parole
@curlyv3180
@curlyv3180 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how a lot of these cases get dismissed as a child being a run away!!! It boils my blood.
@brokensmilebrokendreams7778
@brokensmilebrokendreams7778 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's so sad😪
@AshesAshes44
@AshesAshes44 3 жыл бұрын
It's a product of experience with a lot of actual runaways. Kids can have so much happening in their lives that parents don't know. It can make their actions seem completely contradictory. I've taught three runaways over the years, and two were complete surprises. They all came home or were found and returned. That said, *all* possibilities should be explored when a kid goes missing
@christinerose4839
@christinerose4839 3 жыл бұрын
I get so sick of the police saying girls are run away my self
@brokensmilebrokendreams7778
@brokensmilebrokendreams7778 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinerose4839 and you know what fucks me up that you have to wait 24 hours before you can reporting missing
@AshesAshes44
@AshesAshes44 3 жыл бұрын
@@brokensmilebrokendreams7778 not anymore, *in most places.* The old rule keeps surfacing, but police generally want to get started asap nowadays. Report it right away, regardless.
@nomdeplume2213
@nomdeplume2213 3 жыл бұрын
this case has infuriated me for years. most kids up for adoption don't find good homes with loving family and Janelle got that, she was one of the lucky ones and it was ripped away from her... pisses me off... the entire thing pisses me off.
@tayloranderson7547
@tayloranderson7547 2 жыл бұрын
This case has infuriated me for years. Most kids up for adoption don't find good homes with loveing family and Janelle got that, she was one of the lucky ones and it was ripped away from her pisses me off.
@maureenspano6988
@maureenspano6988 2 жыл бұрын
And the best is the system is so corrupt. And this young lady managed to have that avoided for her. Only to wind up in the hands of a piece of SH... Any one not able to watch their own backs. Need extra help from the rest of us. We as adults must keep our eyes open. For the Children in our worlds. It is our duty. If you have kids in School find the time to get involved. I did this with a chronic disease. I was lucky because I wasn't working. There are parents stuggling. Having to work full time. Instead of judging those families. Help. We do not know peoples situations. Even if the home life is less than stellar. Don't have that stop you. From encouraging these children. Let them know that you are a Parent that listens. And have your eyes open. When a Child feels safe with the adults in their world. They are more likely not to become a victim. Or to ask for help if something feels wrong to them. Make friends with the other Parents. So you have others who you are in contact with. Incase you miss something. Or the other Parents miss something. Children are masters at manipulation. And we don't always know what they are feeling. So the more eyes the more safe they are. May you all stay safe and our Children grow up healthy and happy.
@donnaallen2207
@donnaallen2207 2 жыл бұрын
@@tayloranderson7547 Why did you copy word by word what the first poster stated? Were you trying to make a point that I must not understand? Have a good day.
@jakes-dev1337
@jakes-dev1337 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why?
@XDarksoulX1129
@XDarksoulX1129 2 жыл бұрын
satan is a cruel man.
@bepowerification
@bepowerification Жыл бұрын
my dogs once "went missing" for 8 hours and I was going crazy.. I cant even begin to imagine how extremely hard it must be for parents when they child disappears. for years. this is heartbreaking..
@jujijiju6929
@jujijiju6929 Жыл бұрын
Did they run off?
@marynoonan6111
@marynoonan6111 Жыл бұрын
Particularly with the bloody cops insisting on her being a "Runaway" - WHY? What did she ever do to show them She was a runaway? She came from a happy family and was living a happy life. They wasted weeks following her birth mother?!!!!
@rossy5121
@rossy5121 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@OvrStim1
@OvrStim1 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the dogs? Did they get out of the house or smth?
@harryhu4245
@harryhu4245 Жыл бұрын
Wait we really want to know what happened to the dogs…they just disappeared for 8 hours?
@hannahashley2882
@hannahashley2882 Жыл бұрын
for those watching in 2022, he's still on trial. He was charged with giving false information to police in Nov 2021 and awaits trial for murder and kidnapping (and another charge the 1st jury couldn't agree on). Trial starts early Oct 2022 and is set to be 5 weeks. I hope Jonelle gets justice, but even if he is found guilty I have a feeling we will never hear what actually happened that night.
@ladytamaya4737
@ladytamaya4737 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update ! I really wonder what was in this man’s half cell brain to do what he did. May all inmates have a field day with him for many years to come! 😡
@analelevic1024
@analelevic1024 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@Aashka_The_Mystic
@Aashka_The_Mystic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update!
@Zireael83
@Zireael83 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the information. i hope he gets sent to prison. sadly he was able to live his life freely all this years :(
@IIdankII
@IIdankII Жыл бұрын
We wont hear because 99% chance he'd pick up charges that would put him on the sex offender registry. I'm just gonna say it, this guy looks like a nonce. I cant wait for the day to come where this guy is on the news again for getting merked in prison.
@Swampzoid
@Swampzoid 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the biological mother was heartbroken over this too. I'm sure she gave up her child because she wanted the best for her.
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and I know that the adopted family had to feel bad for what had happened.
@gillawson7059
@gillawson7059 3 жыл бұрын
I hear ya... it's so sad💔
@aminataliep6736
@aminataliep6736 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara we put. Ph Lou or he
@boredweegie553
@boredweegie553 3 жыл бұрын
@@aminataliep6736 is this English?
@coronatyrus2391
@coronatyrus2391 3 жыл бұрын
@@aminataliep6736 What on earth are you talking about!?? It doesn't makes sense...
@justiceforsam6454
@justiceforsam6454 3 жыл бұрын
Outrageous that the police treated her as a runaway and ignored the footprints in the snow. Poor Jonelle!
@justiceforsam6454
@justiceforsam6454 3 жыл бұрын
@Audacious Altair I noticed that too. They really didn't want to do their jobs, not even for an innocent 12 year old girl's sake. Sick!
@rond5936
@rond5936 3 жыл бұрын
They never ignored the footprints. How can you even say that. They collected data on the footprint but it was leading them nowhere. What are you going to do with footprints if it leads you to a dead end?
@rond5936
@rond5936 3 жыл бұрын
@Audacious Altair The found footprints showing an adult was standing behind the window watching her from outside.
@rond5936
@rond5936 3 жыл бұрын
@Audacious Altair I'm sure we will all agree that there are many murders that if the perpetrator does not come forward to confess, no one will ever find out who did it. And this is one of those. The development of DNA, advanced CCTV and Information Systems opened a whole new world in forensic investigation for homicides. But even still there remains massive tonnes unsolved murder cases and the list still keeps growing. If she was in slippers or not did not help in solving this case. Someone who saw something has to come forward. And according to the video too, the Police have had their eyes on their main suspect right from 35yrs ago when she went missing. So the police were still looking at this suspect in the background quietly, but they couldn't even find her body to follow up on. The narrater only brings this suspect into the video later, but said the police have had him as a suspect for 35yrs, and he is still their only suspect up till today. Someone commits a murder and we all expect the killer to be found by the police, and sometimes its not easy for them. If no one gives them some key piece of information, sometimes they will not be able to find the killer.
@justiceforsam6454
@justiceforsam6454 3 жыл бұрын
@@rond5936 They downplayed the significance of those footprints by treating her as a runaway. Why would a 12 year old, who is home alone, sneak out a window instead of walking through the front door is my point.
@lulujac9196
@lulujac9196 2 жыл бұрын
I lost my 2 yr old in a mall years ago for 5 mins… I thought I’d lose my mind. I thought he was with hubby, hubby thought he was with me, I can’t even imagine what these parents go through when their children never return… My hearts breaks for them.
@1day2dayme
@1day2dayme 8 ай бұрын
I am so sorry to hear that. Words are inadequate here.
@Akursedtime
@Akursedtime Жыл бұрын
It's depressing. Jenelle had everything. A biological mother who gave her up so she could have a better life, loving and devoted adoptive parents and a great life with friends. It's just so heartbreaking.
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 Жыл бұрын
Everything that could go so well with an adoptive child born into the situation she was in did go well. Only for some creepy predator ruin all of that. I also feel for the parents both biological and adoptive because they did everything right regarding Jonelle.
@bettywahome174
@bettywahome174 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's the same guy who called home pretending to be a teacher . He just called to make sure jonelle was alone in the house
@TheBitchWhoWasPromised
@TheBitchWhoWasPromised 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, the phone call that late at night was strange. (Especially at the time, it definitely would be seen as rude to call that late, especially when you aren't a relative.)
@NOAHSMOMMY
@NOAHSMOMMY 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment this
@KC-xh5bs
@KC-xh5bs 3 жыл бұрын
My dad never allowed us kids to answer the phone when we were little, for reasons like this.
@ItssTyler
@ItssTyler 3 жыл бұрын
I think these are very good observations, I wouldn’t be surprised
@pamelastevens1609
@pamelastevens1609 3 жыл бұрын
It says right in the video that it was a teacher calling in sick. The guy left his number and name. It would have taken 5 minutes for the police to run it down, plus the call could have been verified by records or even phone bills back then. No. It was a teacher calling the principal to say he was sick and wouldn't be in. I'm sure he got calls all through the night like that lol
@rosellacobiskey2484
@rosellacobiskey2484 2 жыл бұрын
Jenelle is such a tragic example of the family doing everything right to make sure she'd get home safe and having everything still go wrong. Poor girl I'm so sorry for her, her family and, their loss :'(
@Sombre____
@Sombre____ 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, when you bring a child home, be sure than the parents are home. Wait with the child until they come back.
@Sombre____
@Sombre____ 2 жыл бұрын
@EmpressKajal Yeah, i mean, if someone told you to keep an eye on his child, you wait until they come back to leave. You don't let a child alone in a house. That's stupid.
@furiousdestroyah9999
@furiousdestroyah9999 2 жыл бұрын
It's disappointing to consider that her death could have been prevented if the dad that dropped her off, I dunno, kept her around for an hour until her parents came back home? If I were in his place I would've asked her parents for permition to take her with me until they arrive
@rrrlovebuddy
@rrrlovebuddy 2 жыл бұрын
@@furiousdestroyah9999 you can say that with benefit of hindsight, but who knew this would happen with that poor little girl, I don't think it's okay to blame those guys for someone else's crime, they did everything in their hand including riding her home and making sure she enters her home safely, and don't forget it was a cold night, everyone just want to reach home as fast as possible and have dinner with their loved ones possibly near a warm and cosy fireplace. What happened was really very tragic and unfortunate, I'm sorry but can someone tell me what was motive for this heinous act? I honestly missed that part.
@mjfranolich3681
@mjfranolich3681 2 жыл бұрын
@EmpressKajal Depends on how old they are. I'm fairly certain that in most states, age 12 is acceptable to be left at home alone (at least in the US). Unfortunately there is no perfect answer. Tragic things happen everyday. Even if they had gotten her a sitter for those 2 hours, who is to say that they wouldn't have taken advantage of her? The world is a scary place. :/
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
In the 80's a guy my dad worked with had his son stolen out of the child's bedroom. The boy was only a few years younger than me. No trace of the child has ever been found in the last 35+ years.
@yashrajdixit4412
@yashrajdixit4412 Жыл бұрын
some people out there know exactly what happened and might be still roaming around freely
@OvrStim1
@OvrStim1 Жыл бұрын
That is terribly sad
@sensarmy
@sensarmy Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the kid
@stfuplsok
@stfuplsok Жыл бұрын
*80s
@rissyroo2401
@rissyroo2401 Жыл бұрын
That is so incredibly sad 😢 What is the name of the child?
@leggidani4190
@leggidani4190 Жыл бұрын
For those who may see this. He was currently just sentenced to life in prison. I just read up on it. He got sentenced on Halloween
@colewinters5954
@colewinters5954 2 жыл бұрын
Jonelle's case reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where the nun says 'everyday we light a candle for him' and Bart says 'Have you tried 'looking' for him?'.
@invadermaythe1st
@invadermaythe1st 2 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I would’ve laughed at that Now it just makes me uncomfortable
@hollyhayes1313
@hollyhayes1313 2 жыл бұрын
If God existed, then why did she go missing?
@flower5396
@flower5396 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollyhayes1313 Because people are evil. Human beings have the ability to make decisions as opposed to animals. This man is a murderer. God said, "do not kill" he told us and yet there are so many murders and people condemning themselves. That's the best I can put it.
@aaliyah9090
@aaliyah9090 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollyhayes1313 Because people have free will and do this shit on their own. How are you confused?
@hollyhayes1313
@hollyhayes1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaliyah9090 Then if they did it themselves, the Devil didn't make them do it. And if there is no Devil, then there is no God either.
@AbbeyOnAtkins
@AbbeyOnAtkins 3 жыл бұрын
Cops first thought is always “She ran away” or here “left on her own accord” shoeless. Coatless. Middle of winter. Duh???
@AbbeyOnAtkins
@AbbeyOnAtkins 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara I don’t know if you have growing children, but they grow like weeds from one season to the next. 2 winter coats is doubtful
@bellybopper1060
@bellybopper1060 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara it’s literally their job to figure that out lmao
@bellybopper1060
@bellybopper1060 3 жыл бұрын
@Jbone Philly SO WELL PUT ❤️
@rond5936
@rond5936 3 жыл бұрын
Because over 80% of children who are reported missing in the US come back after a few hrs up to a couple of days. Because of this, the police will start investigating a missing child case, but in their heads, they will only start to think the child is actually missing if he or she doesn't show up after 48hrs. Parents call the police only to realise the child run to her Auntie or Friends house complaining about certain things her parents will not let her have. Like boyfriends or video games or not allowed to change tp a certain school.
@catmoore2443
@catmoore2443 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyOnAtkins So true
@yourkarma8331
@yourkarma8331 Жыл бұрын
Imagine sitting in your house in the living room, watching tv, home alone, and someone is outside your window watching you in the dead of night. That’s so scary. How do people get so evil smh
@emilydaffey9369
@emilydaffey9369 2 жыл бұрын
It sickens me that after murderers commit their crime, they’re out in the community living their day to day lives - UNBOTHERED. I couldn’t imagine being the family and having no closure for all those years. And a big F you to the police for not stepping up and treating it seriously from the get go.
@kurlyk3620
@kurlyk3620 3 жыл бұрын
Being kidnapped from your home is even scarier...dang
@cherryrotella3714
@cherryrotella3714 3 жыл бұрын
I get impression that American homes are poorly secured 🧐
@kurlyk3620
@kurlyk3620 3 жыл бұрын
@@cherryrotella3714 true🗿
@evaristo.everardoosorio.ro654
@evaristo.everardoosorio.ro654 3 жыл бұрын
@@cherryrotella3714 not in my home I got security cameras all around with 2 best friend retired patrol dogs that’ll rip your face off and not to mention everyone in my home knows how to properly use a gun in case of self defense and knows where they’re kept I always carry mine
@P4Pmuzi
@P4Pmuzi 3 жыл бұрын
@@evaristo.everardoosorio.ro654 lucky
@damude582
@damude582 3 жыл бұрын
@@evaristo.everardoosorio.ro654 thanks for helping me prepare 😈😈
@javaally1203
@javaally1203 3 жыл бұрын
Dismissing missing children cases as runaways needs to stop. So much valuable time was wasted and could have turned this tragedy around just in time if law enforcement did their job properly and treat as a kidnapping first and not the other way around.
@Vassilaco
@Vassilaco 3 жыл бұрын
Even if they did run away, they're just children, police should be looking for them no matter the reason of disappearance
@javaally1203
@javaally1203 3 жыл бұрын
@Audacious Altair there is a case where an adult daughter of a sheriff went missing and within an hour there was a wide spread search for her and then a subsequent manhunt for the killer in a span of a night... I believe its in this channel... not saying the cop was wring of using his clout to expedite the search its understandable but every missing person case needs this level of urgency... especially minors
@alexandervalaris72
@alexandervalaris72 3 жыл бұрын
@Audacious Altair most only care about them and their family and their next holiday. It's disgusting. Whats even more disgusting is how people who are charismatic are labeled as trustworthy people in our society and hermits are nutjobs.
@joannedeal3418
@joannedeal3418 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vassilaco I agree: why should they think it doesn't matter, even if it really were "just" a runaway?
@joannedeal3418
@joannedeal3418 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vassilaco I bet you are right there!
@baconshake2401
@baconshake2401 10 ай бұрын
The mishandling of this case by the police is a crime in itself.
@afusa1765
@afusa1765 Жыл бұрын
Dude takes an obsessive interest in the case to the point of inserting himself in the investigation, gets caught with information that was not disclosed to the public, won’t give the police information he claims to know without immunity, takes a random trip after the disappearance of jonelle, lies about personally knowing her, watches children leave after school where she attends, his wife catches him saying something suspicious and then jonelle’s remains are found at the site of his former property….yeah, nothing suspicious here
@Amourniecy
@Amourniecy 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! They dropped the ball on this one.
@rcrawford42
@rcrawford42 7 ай бұрын
Dug in his yard afterward -- in the winter, when the ground is frozen solid. Car mysteriously catches fire, to conveniently destroy any evidence. He's guilty.
@Cuckoo_Lane
@Cuckoo_Lane 3 ай бұрын
And still 100 people in the comments section asking where the evidence is 😂
@l-b284
@l-b284 Ай бұрын
...and he was a volunteer with the church
@pineapplecatart
@pineapplecatart 2 жыл бұрын
“Our kid is gone!” She just left dw “She didn’t even take shoes or a jacket!” Hmm we think she left on her own “She had so many activities coming up that she was looking forward to!” Sounds like a runaway to me “There are adult footprints all around the house!” Still a runawayy
@lalipopz90
@lalipopz90 2 жыл бұрын
😩 bruh that had to be so infuriating
@hollyhayes1313
@hollyhayes1313 2 жыл бұрын
What exactly do they do if they're this bad at their job?!?!?!
@publicserviceannouncement4777
@publicserviceannouncement4777 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. That part really bothered me. They reported a MISSING PERSON to the dispatcher not a RUNAWAY.🤦‍♀️
@MattB90
@MattB90 2 жыл бұрын
She's dying to go to school right before christmas vacation to see friends and participate in activities even though she's sick because she loves her life and her community.....uhhh ma'am nope she ran away and wants none of this smfh criminal negligence if you ask me, had they acted immediately with an iota of competence who knows how the outcome could have been different
@xLostInFirex
@xLostInFirex 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, it legit angered me. And "oh but there's no signs of forced entry" isn't any reason for that, obviously it was someone she knew or someone she thought she could trust (or heck, some children might even make the mistake of opening the door for a stranger), duh... Like aren't most crimes like this committed by someone the victim knows? Sheesh. Wonder if it had something to do with her race.... Considering the year it happened, I think it did. Or heck, maybe there really is a chance that Pankey's story about police being involved is true.
@samanthamorris8368
@samanthamorris8368 3 жыл бұрын
⛔🛑EVERY CASE OF A CHILD MISSING SHOULD BE TREATED AN ABDUCTION AND NOT A RUNAWAY, REGARDLESS OF A CHILDS HISTORY OR CIRCUMSTANCES❗️🛑⛔️
@bellybopper1060
@bellybopper1060 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara and you don’t see an issue with that? Lmao ok
@bellybopper1060
@bellybopper1060 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara they have the resources to work on these things and take issues seriously, but spend more time oppressing the poor and minority communities with bullshit tickets, finding every person to drain money from the pockets so they can get some money in theirs, instead of allocating their efforts to legitimate problems. It’s a business, Theda. And this business benefits from crime. The have quotas to meet every month. How can you meet a quota when you’re busy trying to locate one particular missing child that you may never find? The whole system is fucked.
@bellybopper1060
@bellybopper1060 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara LMAO idk what is wrong with your head but it is not in a good place, or a smart one. You gave no logical rebuttal against any part of my argument Please find therapy and research the reality of the system. Have a good day
@hl33t64
@hl33t64 3 жыл бұрын
@Theda Bara so your telling me a kid who was born with a very wealthy and healthy and great loving and caring family and also didn’t have to work or stress for anything in life will run away from home when he has everything sorted for life, your a goon pal kids run away when they have mental health issues or are getting abused and stuff just because so many people run away from home doesn’t mean that it is a normal thing in life get a brain screwed on and then sit behind your screen making comments that make no fucking sense, wether the kid has run away or not the police has enough funding and enough people employed to let 10 officers and a few dogs look for clues and any leads people with no common sense like you make me giggle
@DeathRowExecutions
@DeathRowExecutions 3 жыл бұрын
I think I agree with this
@ryanunderwood1798
@ryanunderwood1798 2 жыл бұрын
"The family feels their widest avenue is prayer." Yeah, you ain't getting that kid back.
@frankboff1260
@frankboff1260 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 12 year old gets home, turns heater on, grabs a shawl and takes off shoes. Footprints in snow outside lounge room. Police : ‘She must have run away’. Hard to believe anyone could be that dense.
@HeLLBenDr
@HeLLBenDr 3 жыл бұрын
Man.. Joenelle goes missing and they find a human scalp in a farm which does not belong to her.. well whom did it belong to then?! Plus the son of the man who murdered her was murdered too. That's a lotta crime in one area. :'(
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 3 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering who’s scalp it was? Did anyone investigate? Or just say eh, just an ordinary day.
@vianka5549
@vianka5549 2 жыл бұрын
You ever notice how most of these true crime documentaries always start of by saying something like "Glendale was the perfect community. It was a place where everyone knew their neighbor, and no one locked their doors." Then they go on to tell you about the most gruesome crime you'd ever heard of. Glad they didnt lie about this towns crime rate! People were literally being scalped! That place was VIOLENT!
@ainsleigh351
@ainsleigh351 2 жыл бұрын
@@vianka5549 totally, not every town just has scalps laying around like wtf was that about
@mitchlamping530
@mitchlamping530 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s just a fucked town plain and simple
@xuploads
@xuploads 2 жыл бұрын
They obviously would have done a full examination of it to figure out who it was and another case would've been opened. They just didn't go into that because it's unrelated to this story.
@Buneilly
@Buneilly 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how this channel speaks about the victims in deep detail instead of the criminal
@miss_B_
@miss_B_ 2 жыл бұрын
As it should be. Poor little soul.
@knighthawk3110
@knighthawk3110 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a big part of what keeps drawing me in.
@crimelordcw
@crimelordcw 2 жыл бұрын
~
@matthuckabey007
@matthuckabey007 2 жыл бұрын
Great observation, I agree 100%
@charlymccroskey6306
@charlymccroskey6306 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree. To be clear, I don't "like" criminals or killers and I have an ocean of empathy for the victims. But they aren't the interesting part of true crime stories and I feel like everyone knows that if they think about it. In fact the most disturbing parts of these stories is that anyone could be the victim, they are ordinary people. I think this victim centric frame just helps the genre cope with its amoral foundation, meaning subject matter that is rather exploitative of actual human suffering. I love the genre, just don't wanna have any delusions about it, that's all.
@JustSomeGuyLV
@JustSomeGuyLV Жыл бұрын
Incompetent police all over the world. My heart feels sad for the little girl who was killed and for her parents.
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how we’ve (especially here in America) built and taught this idea of respect and admiration for police as though they’re infallible. Yet they have shown their incompetence when it comes to the lives of people who have their trust so often. It gets drilled into us at a young age, only for cases like this to be a constant reality check. It’s also why I absolutely DESPISE boot lickers.
@MattCN83
@MattCN83 Жыл бұрын
@@sosmooth13most of the cops are good at their job. If it wasn’t for them we’d be gone.
@jimmyormerod4075
@jimmyormerod4075 Жыл бұрын
@@sosmooth13 no incompetance at all kids run away all the time kids dont usually get kidnapped withought any DNA sign of a stuggle or fingerpints a footprint in the snow outide doesent mean anything if i was walking into that scene i wouldd say she ran away if you were so better then the police youd be police officer and not a dickhead keyboard warrier
@sgshaday
@sgshaday Жыл бұрын
@@sosmooth13 It's not as often. Mlst police interactions are actually positive. We just like to watch the bad stuff more than the good. It gives us some sort of morbid curiosity. I love this channel, but I take my true crime alongside some distractions and positive news. Take a break every now and then It helps to get things into perspective. It's good to know that humanity in general is capable of good. Talk to a neighbor, invite a friend for food. Meet someone new. Pet a dog. Whatever you do, remember that there is more beyond just crime and the unfairness we so often see. Jonelle saw this... It's sad we lost her.
@StofStuiver
@StofStuiver Жыл бұрын
If this guy did it (and he was convicted for it), the girl was dead within hours. (see statements of wife at the time about there whereabouts). If didnt matter one bit what the police did, as she was dead within hours.
@iluvbears4861
@iluvbears4861 Жыл бұрын
There are so many cases where the police do not take family of those missing seriously and this is another example. RIP Janelle ❤🙏🏾
@stormywaters7995
@stormywaters7995 3 жыл бұрын
Scooby doo lets us know MONSTERS ARE ALWAYS HUMAN !!!!!!
@guineagallante7974
@guineagallante7974 3 жыл бұрын
Ha haaa haaa it's true ! There's no meaner monsters than the 2 legged ones ! They use their intelligence to do evil .
@windywater5941
@windywater5941 3 жыл бұрын
I like scooby doo
@josephzacharias7992
@josephzacharias7992 3 жыл бұрын
This statement is the absolute truth.
@aprilacevedo1424
@aprilacevedo1424 3 жыл бұрын
So does most of Dean Koontz 😳😒
@dikariallen785
@dikariallen785 3 жыл бұрын
But what about zombie island they were real but yea true
@JeanMAllen
@JeanMAllen 3 жыл бұрын
Someone tried to take me when I was 5. 1982. My aunt left me in the car when she ran into a gas station. She came out and saw the guy carrying me under his arm and chased him. He dropped me. The police never caught him. The police were great though. They had officers outside my home for weeks after just in case he knew me and tried again.
@Neophema
@Neophema 2 жыл бұрын
That is so scary! I bet you still wonder what could have happened to you if you aunt hadn't stopped him...
@akilaslifetemp9798
@akilaslifetemp9798 2 жыл бұрын
A woman tried to stand with the parents in front of the school when kids were handed over and tried to flee with my brother who was then 3. My mom always gets there ahead of time and hence she chased the woman and got him. She pretended that she got the wrong child but then ran. Scares Me even today!
@guitarguru.3572
@guitarguru.3572 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds harrowing. Last year, someone tried to take my neighbor’s daughter from the waiting room in Ruby Memorial Hospital in Morgantown, WV. She was able to subdue him with a kick to his groin, and other people helped hold him down until police came. It hit really close to home.
@patblauch8522
@patblauch8522 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry... Blessings sent
@gdcompany
@gdcompany 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky girl but definitely creepy shit, this is not how it goes for many innocent children out there. :'(
@killuminatepeacefulness3948
@killuminatepeacefulness3948 Жыл бұрын
RIP Janelle. No one ever forgot about you. And you finally got justice.
@olddirtypelican
@olddirtypelican Жыл бұрын
Jonelle*
@devarient
@devarient Жыл бұрын
Lmfao you forgot about her pretty quick, couldn't even spell her name right, half assed statement for self serving purposes, get a life
@corncob6323
@corncob6323 8 ай бұрын
This is my favorite voice the crew has. He's to the point and his voice reels you into the story.
@lisasimpson3832
@lisasimpson3832 3 жыл бұрын
Evil does not take time off around the holidays-a sad and depressing truth.
@soph5669
@soph5669 3 жыл бұрын
If evil took time off for Xmas it wouldn’t be evil now would it ?
@allenomalley4014
@allenomalley4014 3 жыл бұрын
@@soph5669 beat me to it salut
@lisasimpson3832
@lisasimpson3832 3 жыл бұрын
@@soph5669 It could still be, but I've faced evil before away from the holidays so I have a different POV.
@Zeldarw104
@Zeldarw104 3 жыл бұрын
True. Poor sweet child (Johnelle) she opened the door to evil I believe that's why she opened the door because she knew him, in social situations, and that's why, the house was in no disarray, or no signs of struggle. 😑 Rest in peace Angel baby.😢💐💖
@guineagallante7974
@guineagallante7974 3 жыл бұрын
The devil don't sleep , get sick , tired , bored , or give up . And he is always hungry to devour us .
@StarlightBettas
@StarlightBettas 3 жыл бұрын
she's literally the only one who actually looks happy to be singing there. everyone else looks miserable lmao... just goes to show how enthusiastic she was about those kinds of events compared to the average joe. that somehow just makes it even more of a shame
@olgreg94
@olgreg94 3 жыл бұрын
Your picture looks like Willow from Buffy the vampire Slayer (:
@StarlightBettas
@StarlightBettas 3 жыл бұрын
@@olgreg94 Lol i'm making a weird facial expression in that pic, definitely don't look much like her irl but i see what you mean :P
@PrayThenBreathe1528
@PrayThenBreathe1528 3 жыл бұрын
It truly does! She had a rare light around her and inside of her that would’ve have been great for this world. So sad.
@DeathRowExecutions
@DeathRowExecutions 3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@johannadayy4770
@johannadayy4770 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts are . The dad went to other daughters basketball game..there's tons of games every year..only 1 Xmas production. He should have went to watch Janelle.
@JerryFraserManOfGod
@JerryFraserManOfGod Жыл бұрын
It's KZbin channels like this with such high quality content that keeps me from wanting to get cable tv. Great content 👌 👏
@vclll
@vclll 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the best narrator of them all. His voice and demeanor is so good for this type of narration. Holds your attention and easy to stay focused and keep listening.
@SS-wm5kb
@SS-wm5kb 3 жыл бұрын
Someone tried to kidnap me when I was 6 in 1981. Lots of scary shit happened in the 1980s with kids going missing.
@michellehatfield7551
@michellehatfield7551 3 жыл бұрын
Me too in 85, I was 14yrs. Old. He tried to pull me into the car. I fought him off and ran home and told my mom. Police came....I gave description of him and the car but didn't get a plate #. So it went no where.
@the8cuevas552
@the8cuevas552 3 жыл бұрын
Same! I was about 8. Scariest thing that’s ever happened to me
@xuxab.982
@xuxab.982 3 жыл бұрын
Same... also in Greeley Colorado
@vamountainman2512
@vamountainman2512 3 жыл бұрын
I had a tutor in elementary school that was a very handsie old perv. Nothing horrible I suppose, just the type to place his hand on your knee or lower thigh or sit with his arm around me. He then tried to convince my parents I needed after school tutoring and thankfully they were wise enough to call bs at that point. 100% confident he would have done atrocious things to me had he got me into his house. At the time I was very upset because I thought of him as a friend and he had a very well trained dog that would come to school with him. He would always show me all of the cool tricks his dog knew. I was far too young to understand his intentions but I am very thankful for my intuitive parents!
@vamountainman2512
@vamountainman2512 3 жыл бұрын
@@katybug6572 I do but not often enough. Thank you for your kind words!
@swampcrotchmcgee1728
@swampcrotchmcgee1728 3 жыл бұрын
These types of police are one of the reasons why kidnapped kids end up dead.
@KHH595
@KHH595 3 жыл бұрын
You have about 24 hours to find a kidnapped child and bring them home alive. Kidnappers don’t keep them alive very long at all so it’s difficult for anyone.
@tylerdennis7476
@tylerdennis7476 3 жыл бұрын
really? so its the police fault predators kidnap kids? so the police are telling them to go kidnap kids, think about what you said if it were so easy you go and do it
@kimisayo2447
@kimisayo2447 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdennis7476 it's not that it's easy, more so they're always trying to find a way to cast doubt on parents who clearly know their kids. This was the stupidest case to try and apply the runaway theory to, but they refused to let it go instead ot taking the parent's word. Obviously this isn't applicable to every kidnappings case, but come on.
@runtochrist1975
@runtochrist1975 3 жыл бұрын
Lazy at doing their jobs. This guy excuse is disgusting...He is a disgusting pig that is a psycopath and sadist.
@bohemoth1
@bohemoth1 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdennis7476 PERHAPS
@staleybarnes276
@staleybarnes276 10 ай бұрын
It's a shame that man got to walk around freely for 35 years after ending sweet Jonelle's life😢
@Cuckoo_Lane
@Cuckoo_Lane 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but he sweated every minute
@gerardog2663
@gerardog2663 11 ай бұрын
Poor girl. She seemed so happy, and here family also suffered very much. May God give them peace and strength always.
@rommy143
@rommy143 3 жыл бұрын
A 13 year old child...pregnant. I can’t imagine how difficult this would be.
@slicko69ng
@slicko69ng 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder who got a 13 year old pregnant??????
@sarahseabrook5966
@sarahseabrook5966 3 жыл бұрын
I was supervisor to a young woman who had a child at 13. Then her daughter got pregnant at 13, so she was going to be a Grandmother at 26. I actually couldn't fathom it. They actually were a pretty happy family.
@sarahseabrook5966
@sarahseabrook5966 3 жыл бұрын
@@katybug6572 yeah it was..
@judyives1832
@judyives1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@toomanymarys7355 No way! That’s blaming the victim. A 12 year old child can not give consent. Often girls this young become pregnant because of sexual abuse not because they are promiscuous, Perhaps we should stop blaming them and focus on blaming the perpetrators, the rapist and the murderers.
@justinmartin4662
@justinmartin4662 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, society these days is strangely intolerant considering besides the last 200 years in the west, around the world it would have been relatively normal.
@destinaro.
@destinaro. 3 жыл бұрын
I hate a lot of things about this case but what bothers me THE most is that his wife knew, she KNEW what he did and she kept quiet and allowed that family to suffer.
@guineagallante7974
@guineagallante7974 3 жыл бұрын
Denial , she was hoping he buried his ' gayness' .
@dying2131
@dying2131 3 жыл бұрын
@@guineagallante7974 ikr
@flowersintheattic7799
@flowersintheattic7799 3 жыл бұрын
a
@flowersintheattic7799
@flowersintheattic7799 3 жыл бұрын
@Duke Cally KZbin. right as u r and as polite as u were in ur reply thats the honor of comments and opinions we all get to share what our thoughts are and if the person stating their comment are big enough to share their thoughts they will be big enough to come back and say it later but this is what we do most of us. We r human and I say this in the nicest tone. I think presuming is one way investigators catch their perp and without thinking like that we might not catch a lot of bad guys.
@flowersintheattic7799
@flowersintheattic7799 3 жыл бұрын
@Duke Cally I agree with u. Its just after seeing so much in one lifetime u can't change what naturally develops in how u suspect people to be more negative then positive. The best of us can be fooled so easily and more people are developing/being born with narcissistic behavior. Nobody wants to be fooled especially the people investigating these cases they work to hard to get to the truth and it sucks to be wrong. Its easier to investigate a case assuming someone is guilty so u can ultimate all the facts. Yes its backasswards and not what any investigator will admit to how it works but this is why they call it suspects How one day I will
@RalphVB
@RalphVB Жыл бұрын
Update: Oct. 31, 2022 A Colorado jury on Monday convicted an Idaho man of murder and kidnapping in the 1984 disappearance and death of a 12-year-old girl who was killed days before Christmas, a case that went unsolved for decades and haunted the tight-knit community of Greeley, Colo., where she lived. Hours after the man, Steven D. Pankey, 71, a former Greeley resident who made a long-shot bid for the Republican nomination for governor of Idaho in 2018, was found guilty of first-degree murder and second-degree kidnapping, Judge Timothy G. Kerns of District Court sentenced Mr. Pankey to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 20 years, The Greeley Tribune reported. It was the second time that Mr. Pankey had been tried in connection with the killing of Jonelle Matthews; the first ended in a mistrial last year after a jury did not reach an agreement on most counts for Mr. Pankey, Denver 7 News, a TV station, reported. On Monday afternoon, after hearing the verdict, Jonelle’s parents, Jim and Gloria Matthews, told reporters that they were grateful for the jury’s decision. “I just want to cry,” Ms. Matthews said, holding a framed photograph of her smiling daughter. She added: “God is the only one who can forgive evil, and I feel that this is evil.” Source: New York Times Broke my heart when I read that after so many years the pain is still so very real. I'm glad they got him convicted. He was clearly guilty, but it lacked direct evidence. Just his own obsession on the case was his undoing, where even his wife testified against him. Telling investigators he had pleaded to her to read the news articles about Jonelle multiple times to him, despite never reading the news paper. He apparently also went out digging in the backyard which she still don't know what it was for. Well I think she does now.
@JeanineH
@JeanineH 10 ай бұрын
Welcome to my childhood… 80’s was terrifying for me as a youngster. The time when Serial Killers were discovered & name was invented, for the first time…(late 70’s early 80’s as far as I remember without googling). I remember being sacred to be kidnapped EVERY DAY, to n from school, etc…
@Cuckoo_Lane
@Cuckoo_Lane 3 ай бұрын
Mine was ‘Son of Sam’
@Stranger_Than_Fiction299
@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the announcements in grade school- to watch out for strangers in cars offering candy, that the police had been notified. One time I stayed late after school and walked home alone, my teacher saw a car following me slowly and got in his car to pick me up and drive me the few blocks to my home safely. It is very likely that I owe him my life. (Also- what is up with Panky making everything about himself?!? The narcissism of this guy is astounding!)
@kahnekenhawigarrow4828
@kahnekenhawigarrow4828 2 жыл бұрын
What if your teacher that picked you up was a killer???!!! Your very lucky!! Thank gd
@christineberry3076
@christineberry3076 2 жыл бұрын
Well! Aren't you the lucky one! ( We just ran!)
@Stranger_Than_Fiction299
@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 2 жыл бұрын
@@christineberry3076 outrun a CAR? Maybe u can, I never could.
@sydneystardust5926
@sydneystardust5926 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god Greeley has changed!!😂
@winkie3331
@winkie3331 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 cut through a neighborhood or someones backyard if youre in a cul de sac and evading a car
@proclaimer2u
@proclaimer2u 3 жыл бұрын
My granddaughter went missing. The sheriffs department sent a motorcycle, helicopter, dog, detectives all in about 45 minutes! We went to all the neighbors and no luck. The one house we did not go to because she was not suppose to be home is where she was found. She was only 5 and I asked the neighbor why she would let her in her house and allow her to cross the street. She told me that she was told that I had given permission, so she believed my granddaughter and let her in. The police were not angry, and let me know to not feel bad. It was a good exercise for them.
@anitasimaganis5449
@anitasimaganis5449 3 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on that neighbor
@godislove9307
@godislove9307 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that your granddaughter was found safe and sound. Thank God.
@tangerinetangerine4400
@tangerinetangerine4400 3 жыл бұрын
So that neighbour didnt react in 45 min while the search was happening? With all the noise a helicopter makes? Anyway I'm really glad there was a happy ending.
@sunnymoondog
@sunnymoondog 3 жыл бұрын
That neighbor is SHADY.
@b.f.2461
@b.f.2461 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure they like these where the child is found. Props to the department for reacting so well!
@usmctwin61
@usmctwin61 3 ай бұрын
"I have details about this crime but I want immunity" WHY DIDN'T THEY PURSUE THIS MORE?????
@cindinunn6404
@cindinunn6404 Жыл бұрын
I feel that you could almost guarantee that Janelle was not his first murder victim. I'm sure police are pulling up some of their old cald cases.
@mastercasp3rxboxaddmeneed527
@mastercasp3rxboxaddmeneed527 3 жыл бұрын
I knew he did it when he said the night that he and his wife were driving back from California was the first time he had heard of jonnelles disappearance or existence... you remember the exact day you heard of girls disappearance that you "didnt know" 35 years ago?
@susanlansdell863
@susanlansdell863 3 жыл бұрын
He gave a lot of superfluous detail which is something liars do.x
@guineagallante7974
@guineagallante7974 3 жыл бұрын
Yes , he was distancing / disassociating himself from Jonelle's life. As in I first became aware of her existence through the radio .
@guineagallante7974
@guineagallante7974 3 жыл бұрын
@@susanlansdell863 It's their way to sugar coat the bull - - - - !
@deelowk7950
@deelowk7950 3 жыл бұрын
On top of that he specifically said when he drove back from Colorado and thats where they found her body
@miranda13c
@miranda13c 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He’s trying too hard to seem innocent. His dumb wife isn’t any better.
@GaiaCarney
@GaiaCarney 3 жыл бұрын
If you were a kid in the 70’s & 80’s, you did not feel safe and you weren’t! MOST of my school friends were creeped on, pestered, molested. It was a terrifying time...
@HollyG1903
@HollyG1903 3 жыл бұрын
It happened so often but it just wasn't taken seriously. I remember being out in front of my house with my friends and a guy just pulled up in his car, rolled down his window and asked us to get in with him. We live in the boonies on a dead end street and it was right in front of my house with my parents home. This is not a new thing - people have been crazy for years 🤷
@priscillafuentes8663
@priscillafuentes8663 3 жыл бұрын
In the 60s too,I was molested at about 4 and a half yrs.,old.
@mandyboozan
@mandyboozan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember walking off the street and acting like a random house was mine many times just to make sure any car would think I was going home
@andreagarrison2109
@andreagarrison2109 2 жыл бұрын
It's so true. I had a very scary experience as a child that now, as a parent myself, I find even more terrifying. I feel like growing up during that time, kidnapping was a serious and far too common occurrence. That was during the "stranger danger" Era.
@guitarguru.3572
@guitarguru.3572 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, we had the satanic panic. The paranoia my parents had during that time bled over onto my brother and I. I had to sneak around to even listen to AC/DC.
@petarmarjanovic4607
@petarmarjanovic4607 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much different it would have been if police acknowledged the footprints in the snow instead of pushing their runaway story. Who knows what they could have found.
@hannasetiawan160
@hannasetiawan160 Жыл бұрын
These ominous sound effects always got me 😂
@guitarguru.3572
@guitarguru.3572 2 жыл бұрын
Those days back when everyone left their doors unlocked? Yeah, they never existed. As long as humans have walked on 2 legs there have been monsters among us.
@annmaines4964
@annmaines4964 2 жыл бұрын
We never locked our doors. Even up until 2015, I didn’t lock my doors. Country people just didn’t mistrust others.
@allans.243
@allans.243 2 жыл бұрын
The first of them became guitar gurus. Jk.
@RedceLL1978
@RedceLL1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@annmaines4964 you being naive enough to trust your community doesn't mean there wasn't someone with evil intentions among them. Maybe your kids grew up without any problems like alot of families did. But that doesn't mean they were always safe. All it would've taken was a sick bastard to choose someone you care about instead of somebody else they'd decided to settle on choosing. Millions of other tragedies are enough evidence of that. So many of us are truly fortunate never to have had the unthinkable happen in our lives. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take every precaution to safeguard our loved ones.
@annmaines4964
@annmaines4964 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedceLL1978 I will completely agree with that statement.
@jcartiii
@jcartiii 2 жыл бұрын
locks are for honest people
@partytime8092
@partytime8092 3 жыл бұрын
"Gay Background" 😂 I'm sorry, this story is serious, but that excuse had me in tears!
@honeyfernandez114
@honeyfernandez114 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you..its really a gay background...
@somesquirrel1510
@somesquirrel1510 3 жыл бұрын
He had a wife tho wth
@bredagner4632
@bredagner4632 3 жыл бұрын
It was him saying " everyone knoooows....it's all over the internet "
@DeathRowExecutions
@DeathRowExecutions 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@guesswho175
@guesswho175 3 жыл бұрын
@@somesquirrel1510 it happens son
@TheGothicLibrarian
@TheGothicLibrarian Жыл бұрын
UPDATE: After a hung jury during his first trial, a second trial found him guilty of kidnap and murder of Jonelle, on October 31st 2022, and was sentence to life in prison with the possibility of parole in 20 years. Given that he's now 79, I don't he'll ever get out, unfortunately he also won't spend enough time behind bars. He also didn't confess and said "never happened" when asked if he shot her in the head while she begged for her life. Poor little girl, I hope she's in peace somewhere beautiful.
@gl1tchr_
@gl1tchr_ Жыл бұрын
I bet it took so long for the town to investigate him specifically bc he was a town religious leader. He literally admitted to knowing evidence not released to the public, how tf was this guy not in the interrogation room on day one
@jimmyormerod4075
@jimmyormerod4075 Жыл бұрын
@@xyz12345457 ya theres no use in explaning a lot of people in these comments thing they know better the the police that deal with these things everyday day in day out
@amandaross823
@amandaross823 3 жыл бұрын
Poor baby girl. She had so much life to live. Such a waste of a bright young girl. The family's grief can not be measured. That man is a monster!!!
@LindseyNickole
@LindseyNickole 3 жыл бұрын
There was no sign of forced entry because he probably checked the window first, then rang the doorbell. Since Jonelle knew him from church she probably just opened the door for him. On a side note, how is this considered a "solved" case?
@sandraswan9008
@sandraswan9008 2 жыл бұрын
Because it is?
@b.f.2461
@b.f.2461 2 жыл бұрын
Solved means we know what happened, not that it was prosecuted.
@2paxs320
@2paxs320 2 жыл бұрын
Because he basically admitted to doing it he admitted someone told him a body needed to be buried and said it was a police most likely the man who shot janelle the pastor probably answer the door to help him pankey made it aware that he had help but kept the next person a secret which most likely is his father
@jamesharvey1720
@jamesharvey1720 2 жыл бұрын
Because he's in prison.
@ayselismailova2997
@ayselismailova2997 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesharvey1720 but why did he did it
@prentfaiyaz
@prentfaiyaz Жыл бұрын
Whenever someone inserts themselves in an investigation, they are guilty.
@TheAdawg5
@TheAdawg5 Жыл бұрын
Death note shows us this 😢😮
@vatoalvarez8253
@vatoalvarez8253 Жыл бұрын
My husband said something about “I hope god is not punishing me for that little girl I murdered” but I didn’t thought much of it at the time…
@sayonara9633
@sayonara9633 Жыл бұрын
What now
@clipexotica
@clipexotica Жыл бұрын
?
@kaylagold8543
@kaylagold8543 Жыл бұрын
Wth??!?
@readilium3432
@readilium3432 Жыл бұрын
It's a near quote from Pankeys wife, mentioned in the video
@lisamichelle8413
@lisamichelle8413 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot understand why the cops didn’t double down on him when he knew something that wasn’t disclosed to the public ~ (the footprints in the snow, being raked over) … the incompetence of police never ceases to amaze me 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️
@cgyygc5433
@cgyygc5433 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's usually incompetence but just laziness
@elfullin
@elfullin Жыл бұрын
@@cgyygc5433 laziness is a factor of incompetence.
@xoresgaminghub5412
@xoresgaminghub5412 10 ай бұрын
@@cgyygc5433 Its actually the fact that the Law usually helps the bad guys way more than it does help Police to investigate.
@franhunne8929
@franhunne8929 4 ай бұрын
@@xoresgaminghub5412 That is BS - and you know it. They had absolutely nothing to gain helping this pederast. But they would have gained a lot of stars on their report cards if they had solved the case. Now tell me again that they were not motivated to solve the case. No, I think they were indeed badly trained - and that made them commit all those mistakes.
@emilyp7511
@emilyp7511 3 жыл бұрын
They need to hurry up because I doubt sweet Jonelle is his only victim. There's sure to be more, probably before her and after.
@evenhartwick4422
@evenhartwick4422 2 жыл бұрын
ikr. how about how a human scalp was literally discovered in the town, but as soon it was seen as not belonging to Jonelle everyone was just like "well i guess this is useless" how about the fact that it might indicate that their is a serial killer living in your town! god these cops make Chief Wiggum look like a professional, they sat on mountains of evidence for years, I'm not saying we could have saved Jonelle but we could have at least caught this monster like 25 years sooner
@matt81874
@matt81874 2 жыл бұрын
Im wondering about his son that was murdered?? VERY strange!
@saucywench
@saucywench Жыл бұрын
It’s not just stranger danger. We always taught our kids to NEVER open the door for anyone, (even when we were home) which included strangers, acquaintances, neighbors, friends, workers or even family etc…except for their grandparents. It’s more likely to be someone they know, unfortunately.
@tarawehry7105
@tarawehry7105 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine what that family went through, losing their daughter to murder is bad enough, but 5 days before Christmas was sooo heartbreaking .
@CJ12174
@CJ12174 2 жыл бұрын
there's a kidnapping in the neighborhood and a few days later your husband is digging a hole in the backyard and he won't tell you why... call the cops right away wtf
@renanmiranda68
@renanmiranda68 2 жыл бұрын
How many other "runaways" are actually victims of heinous crimes like this, American law enforcement?
@ThePROFESSIONALhooligan
@ThePROFESSIONALhooligan 2 жыл бұрын
Makes you think just how many are out their waiting to be found and brought home.
@zeroplague
@zeroplague Жыл бұрын
Generally, most agencies have protocols gor runaways if not found within a certain amount of time; the case will be forwarded to a detective. In my agency's case, it gets forwarded to our Major Crimes department automatically.
@vagabond8094
@vagabond8094 Жыл бұрын
For those that don't know. The jury has found him guilty on 1 count of false reporting. They found there was not enough evidence, and that most of it was just a weird obsessive interest. He got 6 months, which was considered time served as he was in jail awaiting his sentence.
@NdNprincesZ08
@NdNprincesZ08 Жыл бұрын
I mean the man is suspicious and doesn't come off as someone you would want to be friends with, but honestly he's innocent until proven guilty. So sorry to Jonelle and her loved ones. May they find some semblance of relief knowing they can try to start healing from this.
@eh-i1841
@eh-i1841 Жыл бұрын
But in reality,he’s guilty.
@tiffanytalley9631
@tiffanytalley9631 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Idaho and I remember this guys signs all over when he was running for gov. There are so many people hiding in plain sight that are guilty of monstrosities against children and others. My heart hurts as a parent that this happens every day...
@jodielouise3209
@jodielouise3209 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Jonelle ❤️🥺
@captainknapton
@captainknapton 3 жыл бұрын
My girl Jodie's in the house ❤💯
@jodielouise3209
@jodielouise3209 3 жыл бұрын
Yas queeeen ☺️❤️
@captainknapton
@captainknapton 3 жыл бұрын
@@jodielouise3209 I love this channel , I miss the ewu fam but still love the channel !
@aeonflux8351
@aeonflux8351 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace.
@lorialowery2071
@lorialowery2071 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainknapton 1
@arcticpanda93
@arcticpanda93 10 ай бұрын
The mere fact there were footprints leading to the living room windows and the police continued to treat the case as a runaway is fucking bonkers.
@blueindigoqueen7077
@blueindigoqueen7077 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much ! I truly 🖤 ur voice Raven ! Keep up the great content us fans truly appreciate it!
@justinlapid2163
@justinlapid2163 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, can life throw a curveball...being the child of a minor (13 year old mom), then being adopted by a loving family and living the dream of a happy innocent kid...to being kidnapped in place you have always been safe and loved...Monsters in our own neighborhoods are out there for sure.
@jaylew889
@jaylew889 3 жыл бұрын
Hey chief, we've got a set of footprints out here in the snow. Much too large to be Janelle's, seems that whoever they belonged to were watching the girl... Stfu Jim, the girl ran away.. that's the only theory that keeps us from having to do actual work. Plus it's shark week and I'm not missing a single episode. Besides, do you know how hard it is to find a missing person. We're not the A-Team or rocket surgeons
@destaniedillard1001
@destaniedillard1001 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@KrinchiD
@KrinchiD 2 жыл бұрын
Shark week!! 🤣🤣😂🤣
@Panda_Samanda
@Panda_Samanda 22 күн бұрын
Top tier comment 😂
@dena81
@dena81 Жыл бұрын
The fact he was so into the case but tried to act like he only heard about it as background news is the big key to me. They always say the murderer always goes back to see what the police know, where the trail leads. And with the ex wife adding in that the trip was not planned and was right after the murderer, that's another puzzle piece. And that her remains were found on property owned by him? Sad it took 35 years to find him but I hope justice takes him down
@Jlittles2
@Jlittles2 9 ай бұрын
I swear this channel makes THE BEST true crime short documentary videos...
@brookejones3502
@brookejones3502 3 жыл бұрын
How did his wife hear him say that at the funeral and keep living with him? Run!
@singergurl1807
@singergurl1807 3 жыл бұрын
She had just lost her son so she probably didn't process it at the time
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you so underweight? Make sure you eat!
@SG-pu3rx
@SG-pu3rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBcoolGuy wtf is wrong with you! Ohh right, you are a man that's it
@KarmaNdTheHeads
@KarmaNdTheHeads 2 жыл бұрын
@@SG-pu3rx gender has nothing to do with that sentence.
@tubarao1143
@tubarao1143 2 жыл бұрын
Lol as bad as him...
@shinskoala7072
@shinskoala7072 3 жыл бұрын
Youth pastor. Makes you think of how many other predators are out there hiding behind their religion. Parents, please don't think for a second that any "church" environment is a safe haven for your kids. It means nothing and if anything, you should always remain vigilant no matter who you entrust your children with, and where you entrust them to be.
@manifestationqueen3124
@manifestationqueen3124 3 жыл бұрын
Church folks are the worst people I've ever met
@fangirl3086
@fangirl3086 3 жыл бұрын
Do a little google on the Jehovah Witnesses child rape cases, you'll see you're correct.
@fangirl3086
@fangirl3086 3 жыл бұрын
Catholics too I guess.
@fangirl3086
@fangirl3086 3 жыл бұрын
Mormons wouldn't hurt either I guess
@emghee2510
@emghee2510 2 жыл бұрын
If they take payments for saving your soul, why trust them with your kids? Real monsters always hide behind innocent faces.
@Sarah97359
@Sarah97359 Жыл бұрын
every case ever: child goes missing under suspicious circumstances police: hmmmm must be a runaway *shrug* 🙄
@JennaCordingley1987
@JennaCordingley1987 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that he states he wanted the family to have the same closure that he has......yeah because you know exactly what happened to her.
@lifewithmace2338
@lifewithmace2338 11 ай бұрын
thats what i noticed
@shortie24tartaglione2
@shortie24tartaglione2 3 жыл бұрын
I could read him like a book.. just looking at him and the way he spoke. Watching him on here made me want tear him up. May that poor litt girl RIP. Prayers to her family.
@ChrisesLife
@ChrisesLife 3 жыл бұрын
I hit the screen where his face was . Makes me sick to my stomach.
@maudemathildeh335
@maudemathildeh335 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to throw him to a pack of Wolves!
@tessarix
@tessarix 3 жыл бұрын
@@maudemathildeh335 Attack by really hungry alligators lurking about for a kill would be my choice to describe this killer. Slow and painful, just like what he did to this poor sweet unsuspecting child.
@maudemathildeh335
@maudemathildeh335 3 жыл бұрын
@@tessarix Yes excellent choice.
@MS-dw2pb
@MS-dw2pb 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that ugly demon being the last thing jonelle saw....
@kj7792
@kj7792 3 жыл бұрын
Story is weird in beginning. You said dad went to basketball game with older daughter. But he came home before her. Also reported said PARENTS couldn't find her, but mom was out of town right?
@AleisterCrowleyMagus
@AleisterCrowleyMagus 2 жыл бұрын
The whole story is weird, and the place were she was found was very isolated (not connected to Pankey in any way) and would have been very frozen at the time of her death. Pankey has some obvious mental health issues, and he has put himself into this case for years (there are weirdos who do this sort of thing yet are not guilty) - and the police of that town have gone after him for years. We will see if there is any real evidence that connects him to the crime and where she was found.
@rockandrollfantasy86
@rockandrollfantasy86 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the daughter could of hung out with friends for a bit after the game.
@dorindadouglas2847
@dorindadouglas2847 2 жыл бұрын
@@AleisterCrowleyMagus I was wondering what evidence they actually had on him as well. It will be interesting with all the crappy police work that was done.
@StellaFl
@StellaFl 2 жыл бұрын
@@AleisterCrowleyMagus I agree 100%. I watched the 48 Hours show and apparently there is zero evidence connecting him to the murder. I don't mind a circumstantial case but even that kind of evidence is flimsy is this one. What is apparent, though, is that he has mental health issues.
@Cartoonbrains
@Cartoonbrains Жыл бұрын
If your husband is making you read newspaper articles about a kidnapped girl and then starts digging up holes randomly in the backyard THEN makes an ominous statement about said missing girl at your own son's funeral that should be more than enough red flags to make a run for it. 🚩
@freakishtrees
@freakishtrees Жыл бұрын
even if a child does run away, finding them should be police’s top priority! they could be still in danger! and of course there’s so, so many tragic cases like this where the family is made to feel like a joke with how little they seem to be taken seriously. i’m so sorry to this girl and her family, they were failed on so many fronts
@amourtoujours779
@amourtoujours779 3 жыл бұрын
14 minutes. I'm sorry, did they say 1,000,000 went missing each year in the 70s and 80s?? What in the world???
@tonypixler4592
@tonypixler4592 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine it'd be a lot easier to get away with it back then. Unfortunately 460k children still go missing every year in the United States. I can't fathom the reason on why people prey on children.
@b.f.2461
@b.f.2461 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, most of these were genuine runaways. There may not be great resources for abused kids now, but they were virtually non-existent in 70s and 80s. Kids had no choice but to try to make it on their own. Unfortunately that led many to be further abused or even killed.
@amourtoujours779
@amourtoujours779 2 жыл бұрын
This is very disturbing.
@liyans1
@liyans1 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction. I can’t believe it. I always knew about missing children on milk cartons being a thing, but I could never have imagined those numbers of missing children every year back then.
@Twinsane_in_the_membrane
@Twinsane_in_the_membrane 3 жыл бұрын
How many other victims has he had the opportunity to harm in these 30 years. He knew crime scene details! He’s the guy! How did they miss that!?
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 3 жыл бұрын
He must've had friends at the police station.
@alexandramcgoey3656
@alexandramcgoey3656 3 жыл бұрын
@@karentucker2161 yes and good friends who maybe do things together because this guy asked for immunity back when they first questioned him to talk? Obviously they were trying to cover this whole thing up. Probably was a group effort, so many times it is and they always try to make the narrative about one crazy person...
@hybdotn7571
@hybdotn7571 2 жыл бұрын
How did they miss that? If u so smart then u shud be the one who needs to solve this. Doubt that u can. I mean u only know a lil bit since u watch a 30minutes video.
@j0nnyism
@j0nnyism 2 жыл бұрын
Journalists may have known those details chatting to the cops. Family members too. Doesn’t prove squat
@sweetsnejinka9411
@sweetsnejinka9411 8 ай бұрын
​@@j0nnyismthey just have to ask "who did u hear that detail from?" And trace it back to a journalist or a cop. If he has no reasonable explanation it's suspect.
@ohNastyXIII
@ohNastyXIII Жыл бұрын
They didn't investigate for YEARS.. Even though her parents pushed that she isn't a run away. FFS the police always drops the goddamn ball i swear to god
@KintokiSan
@KintokiSan 8 ай бұрын
"hey kids, I'm mister pankey, the christmas killer! Hooooowdy-ho~"
@divinelight1129
@divinelight1129 3 жыл бұрын
I think she was stalked
@Fallopia5150
@Fallopia5150 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. They covet what they see.
@cynthiajohns0n442
@cynthiajohns0n442 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you are right...
@BRISARELLY
@BRISARELLY 3 жыл бұрын
This narrations are so good! I almost feel like I’m watching the history channel but better 😅
@Me_G.
@Me_G. Жыл бұрын
To me, it felt like I was listening to an audibook. 🙂
@crystalm718
@crystalm718 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos!! The only true crime podcast/KZbin I can actually listen to without wanting to rip my ears off
@aes0p895
@aes0p895 10 ай бұрын
Q: What's the difference between Mr. Hankey and Mr. Pankey? A: One's a walking, talking piece of sh!t, and the other one is just a cartoon character.
@lisareder
@lisareder 3 жыл бұрын
My main question to the police would've been why would you treat this case as a runaway what means would she have to run away? She left all of her clothes her shoes in the middle of the night in the snow. That already sounds fishy to me.
@Indomitable_Alykat
@Indomitable_Alykat 2 жыл бұрын
It was just protocol back then. Most missing kids and even young adults back then were presumed runaways until proven otherwise. :/
@selenagonzolas6302
@selenagonzolas6302 2 жыл бұрын
It was pure laziness from law enforcement!
@cant.fall.without.jumping2143
@cant.fall.without.jumping2143 Жыл бұрын
even if her clothes and shoes were gone, children, literal minors should always raise concerns. why would a young child just up and run off, theyre a minor, it should always be taken seriously. i could see a grown adult and them being like ( give it a day) but like a child?. negligence from the police. the first couple days are the most crucial.
@mistypeaks1303
@mistypeaks1303 3 жыл бұрын
*UPDATE*: At the time of this writing (March 28 2021) Panky has been arrested due to his connection in this case!
@ghostfan2427
@ghostfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
how many years?
@ReaperSymbiote
@ReaperSymbiote 2 жыл бұрын
Only took about 30ish years.
@earlenesaunders9440
@earlenesaunders9440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update!!! I had just commented that I was disappointed that the case wasn’t solved...good looking out! God bless & be safe🙏❤️❤️💕
@sarahpowpow777
@sarahpowpow777 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Jonelles friends father who dropped her home felt awful and wondered if he could’ve done anything to change things.
@GreatwhiteShark88
@GreatwhiteShark88 Жыл бұрын
Naah, he is doing good now
@curturweider9473
@curturweider9473 Жыл бұрын
You do a good job come up with very good points everyone should follow thank you
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