Exploring Epyx Fast Load for the Commodore 64

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8-Bit Show And Tell

8-Bit Show And Tell

Күн бұрын

The venerable Epyx Fast Load cartridge for the Commodore 64 does a lot more than just speed up disk access. We take a deep look at many of the other features, such as the DOS Wedge, the Disk Editor, and the Machine Language Monitor.
Index
0:00 Some updates/news/thanks
1:55 Fast Load intro
5:50 Using Fast Load as a disk speeder
10:14 Advertising in RUN magazine
11:20 Epyx Fastload Reloaded
11:45 DOS Wedge
16:37 The First Menu
18:22 Sector Editor
21:50 Locking/Unlocking Files
25:40 Intermission - March Break
26:45 Machine Language Monitor
Links mentioned:
Github Code Repository: github.com/duckyvirus/8bitsho...
Epyx Fastload Reloaded: www.thefuturewas8bit.com/shop...
Growing Up '80s Favourite C64 Mini Games: • Top Five Games on The ...
My video about the INC $D020 program: • Commodore 64 Assembly ...
My video on animated disk directories contains some overlapping information about disk editing using Fast Hack'em: • How Animated Commodore...
Follow me on Twitter: / 8bitshowandtell
Check out my podcast Growing Up '80s: / gu80s

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@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
This is a long episode with lots of parts, so I added an index to the description, and I might as well put it here too: 0:00 Some updates/news/thanks 1:55 Fast Load intro 5:50 Using Fast Load as a disk speeder 10:14 Advertising in RUN magazine 11:20 Epyx Fastload Reloaded 11:45 DOS Wedge 16:37 The First Menu 18:22 Sector Editor 21:50 Locking/Unlocking Files 25:40 Intermission - March Break 26:45 Machine Language Monitor
@quonomonna8126
@quonomonna8126 4 жыл бұрын
I love how your hand expresses itself as well as a face would
@JesusisJesus
@JesusisJesus 4 жыл бұрын
At 6:15 “what was up with that?” Apparently “FIDG” BTW. I am a doctor, your hands tell me you have heart problems. Get it checked my 🖐 friend!
@amirjawaid2362
@amirjawaid2362 2 жыл бұрын
hi, can you plz point me to the fast hack'em video that you referred to in this video?
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын
@@amirjawaid2362 I think it was this video about animated disk directories; towards the end I show how to use Fast Hack'em to edit the disk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foewm3-LnbSLb5I
@gregor_man
@gregor_man 2 жыл бұрын
I had an unofficial dual cartridge with Fastload and Fastload 2 on the same circuit board, with a switch. Later I had placed that INSIDE the C64 case, I connected the PCB edge lines to the cartridge connector's soldering points with wires, and I applied a tri-state switch on the case, and a reset button, looked very good. And worked well, of course, I loved it. When I wanted to insert a separate cartridge (usually a freezer) then I set the switch to the neutral position, disabling Fastload, and it worked. I had probably a fully unique C64 this way, a first generation machine with internal Fastloads.
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5 5 жыл бұрын
One funny memory about the Epyx Fast Load - I got one as a kid and it was great. But then software started including their own fast load routines and I found most new titles and even cracked games wouldn't work with it, so I stopped using it completely. I just went back to the slow Kernal routines. Now, when I buy retro computer lots, there is inevitably a Fast Load cartridge included. I tried it again and it works great! So I found my old Fast Load cartridge and found out that it doesn't work! So my original cart died on me in the 80s and I didn't realize it!
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 5 жыл бұрын
64jim64 lyeah I was going to say, 95% of the games would work with it. ....
@johnsaller2481
@johnsaller2481 4 жыл бұрын
My V1 stopped working but I erased it and put in V2 and it worked. I still use in on my C64C as it has no sockets. I use JiffyDos on everything else.
@shawbros
@shawbros 4 жыл бұрын
You should go back in time and get a warranty exchange on it.
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5 3 жыл бұрын
@ungratefulmetalpansy Yeah, I have it open and was thinking about swapping parts, re-burning the ROM, and seeing if I could get it to work.
@markjohnson3737
@markjohnson3737 5 жыл бұрын
If I had this information when I was nine years old I’d be ruling the world today. Keep up the great content!
@cheater00
@cheater00 4 жыл бұрын
came to say this!
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky 11 ай бұрын
You would ? :)
@markjohnson3737
@markjohnson3737 11 ай бұрын
@@Tech-geeky 💯
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 10 ай бұрын
We need a "Back to the Past" machine to enjoy all this new info. hehe
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын
As a side-note, something that I did with my FastLoad cartridge was to add an on-off switch and a soft reset button. That way, on my C64, I had an easy way to reset the computer (remember, the C128 has a reset switch, but the C64 did not). Also, when using a 1571 or 1581 disk drive, the C128 is faster because both the computer and the drive have working hardware shift registers, but in GO 64 mode, it still uses the slow bit-banging Kernal routines. So, the on-off switch lets me boot the C128 in C128 mode (with the switch set to "off"), or in C64 mode with FastLoad support if the switch is set to "on" without having to frequently insert or remove the cartridge. All you need is a momentary pushbutton switch for the reset button, and a SPST toggle switch for the on-off switch. The pushbutton should be connected to pin 1, pin 22, pin A, or pin Z (all four pins are connected to Ground, so any one of them will do) and Pin C (Reset). To install the on-off switch, you have to scrape off part of the trace for pin 9 (EXROM) and solder the switch across the gap. To make this job a little easier, the FastLoad cartridge is held together by a single screw located under the label. So it's easy to open the cartridge to get access to the PCB. EDIT: Also, on the C64, it lets me turn the cartridge off when I want to play a game that FastLoad is incompatible with. I have found that on _very_ few games, even "Disable FastLoad" is not enough; the game won't load unless the cartridge is completely removed. Or, in this case, *turned off.* And yes, it is perfectly safe to flip the on/off switch with the power on. The on/off switch is wired to the EXROM line (pin 9), which is only checked when you power on the computer. It is not actually connected to any power circuits, such as pins 2 and 3 (+5V DC) or to pin 1, pin 22, pin A, or pin Z (ground). So you can change modes by flipping the on/off switch and then pressing the reset button.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks. I should have mentioned the reset button this episode. I see that the FastLoad Reloaded has one built-in, which is a great feature. I've mentioned the lack of reset button on a previous episode or two, and how it's extremely useful. I'm glad the 128D has one built in.
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын
@@8_Bit I've got a confession to make. I was a teenager back when the C64 came out. It didn't take long before I got involved in the hacking scene... high school kids with an allowance of $5 a week didn't have money to spend on games, so we copied them, or figured out how to hack them so we could copy them. The reset switch on my FastLoad cartridge, which already had a machine language monitor, was one of my most important tools, because the RAM from $0801-$CFFF and $E000-FFFF are not erased when you perform a reset. ;-) EDIT: Well, okay, $0801 and $0802 might be overwritten with zeroes to indicate "end of program". But $0803 and up were not affected by the reset. It made it a lot easier to load the game, then hit reset and start looking for the code that performed the copy protection check.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpearM3064 You were doing it for the knowledge! :) Funny how much we learn when motivated, eh?
@pjcnet
@pjcnet 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having the very first ever Freeze Frame cartridge where you could press a button and just dump the entire system state to disk or tape which I got from Evesham Micros, then they bought out anti-freeze in games to counteract it and the cartridge kept getting upgraded where you could trade in the old for the new, I did it every time. Later there was more advanced cartridges like Action Replay.
@AgeofReason
@AgeofReason 4 жыл бұрын
This is the channel I needed in 94.
@nefaurora
@nefaurora 3 жыл бұрын
This is the channel that I needed in '84 !!!! ;) ...Hehehe...!
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't WANTED an 8-bit Commodore machine in just about 34 years. Thanks, Robin. You make me want to go back and explore all of the things I missed when I was twelve ^___^
@ChristmasEve777
@ChristmasEve777 4 жыл бұрын
I remember writing my own fast loader. Even the simplest code was faster than the factory/ROM loader. I remember figuring out how to write to the 1541 memory by setting a bit of memory somewhere in the C64 and toggling a clock bit to let the 1541 side know that the next bit is ready (or vise versa). I wrote a very simple program for both sides, that transferred a block at a time (256 bytes, or 2048 bits). I then expanded it to do a whole track in quick succession, one block at a time with some interleave (don't remember what I used). But it didn't load the track quite as fast as FastLoad or WARP SPEED but it was a lot faster than the factory speed. It made me wonder WHY the heck they released a machine capable of so much more, but held back. And the technique listed above did not even need to put the C64 in 2 MHz mode (blanking the screen).
@sanjyuu2298
@sanjyuu2298 Жыл бұрын
It was explained somewhere that there was a bug found with VIA chips, so data taransfer using VIAs wasn't reliable or possible, since the time was almost out before releasing C64, no hardware changes was actually possible without losing tons of money, that's why they came up with makeshift software communication protocol. I think that this was fixed in C128 (burst mode i think).
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 10 ай бұрын
It was due to comparability issues, basically Commodore has fudged it and fuqed it up with the slows speeds. Many users didn't know that the disk drive was basically a computer with its own CPU. It was such a waste of resources making it much more expensive than it should be, instead they should have included the drive controller on the C64's mother board.
@fitfogey
@fitfogey 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great informative video. We got our Commodore 64’s at the same time. My parents bought mine in Jacksonville FL in March of ‘84 as well. Too cool.
@419Films
@419Films 4 жыл бұрын
I had one when I was a kid, so the video was some great nostalgia, overall. My heart truly skipped a beat, though, at the mere mention of Compute's Gazette. Loved that magazine. 😍
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same, little flutters ... at our age better check on that pace maker. lol
@WorksOnMyComputer
@WorksOnMyComputer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember traveling two hours on the train from Newcastle to Sydney in Australia to look at what software was out for the Commodore 64. I spotted this cartridge on the shelf of one of the stores and snapped it up. It became my all time favourite utility on the C-64, although I did modify mine with a small momentary button on the label side of the cartridge to act as a computer reset button. No doubt a hack I read about in some Commodore related magazine. It wasn't the fastest as you say, but it was very compatible and with the reset button and keyboard shortcuts for loading software, was very handy.
@AndyAKratz
@AndyAKratz 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial. Showing how to access the EPYX menu using the GBP key was exactly what I needed! Thanks for this!
@RetroComputingwithMike
@RetroComputingwithMike 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple of your video, and im a fan! Keep up the good work :)
@cheater00
@cheater00 4 жыл бұрын
i loved the video - i wish I knew any of that when i had my c128, my first computer. i hope you'll make the same kind of video about other cartridges, and about more advanced functions in FastLoad! thanks a lot!
@Kris_M
@Kris_M 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I really loved my C64 and it is fun to learn even more about it some 30 years later. Side note: I tend to call this channel the 8-bit moving hand.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 10 ай бұрын
"The 8- tit Magic Hands" ;D
@matti157
@matti157 3 жыл бұрын
the part about the assembly was the most interesting! i can't wait for the sd2iec + epyx fast cartridge i ordered. And congratulations, I'm Italian and I don't know 100% English but your explanations are very clear and not hasty, never change
@ralfvanbogaert3451
@ralfvanbogaert3451 Жыл бұрын
It's been a looong time since I've been anywhere near a physical C64 yet I watch all of your videos with interest. Keep 'em coming Robin!
@wadz668
@wadz668 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the EPYX Fastload cartridge since childhood. We bought it used at a swap meet and never knew it had a built in monitor! That would have been very useful.
@christianscheller638
@christianscheller638 4 жыл бұрын
Finally I begin to understand all this crisp and clear... Thank you!
@LunarJim69
@LunarJim69 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive Commodore channel with excellent content. Thanks.
@MurderMostFowl
@MurderMostFowl 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I didn’t believe this was real. I couldn’t understand how a cartridge could speed up disk reads/writes. I thought it was a trick 😂
@AE-bm4no
@AE-bm4no Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. These videos are extremely educational and will help future generations to learn and use 80's computers.
@Eightbitswide
@Eightbitswide 5 жыл бұрын
Learned a couple new things even though I owned a fastload back in the day. Yes, white on blue is easier to see in the videos. Another great video!
@RonaldMorrissetteJr
@RonaldMorrissetteJr 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these videos. The Epyx Fast Load cartridge was a must have back then, at least until Jiffydos. I do enjoy that you're using a real commodore 64! I have recently started to revisit my Commodore passion from the past. I owned over $2000 USD worth of C= hardware and accessories and a huge library of Commodore related books and software. Unfortunately, I no longer have any of those items. But I am working on attaining these items again. PS I used to live 15 minutes away from Creative Micro Designs and would visit there frequently!
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and wow, I wish I could have visited CMD in person! I phoned there occasionally (long distance from Canada was expensive!) and had some good conversations with Doug Cotton.
@thegoodrevbadandyarr4272
@thegoodrevbadandyarr4272 Жыл бұрын
Wow, someone else remembers Jiffydos. Man that thing was the best! Kinda scary opening up my computer and disk drive as a kid and pulling and slotting chips, but the switch was the BEST!
@MindFlareRetro
@MindFlareRetro 5 жыл бұрын
Another great episode, Robin -- I super enjoyed this one. Also, I figured out why your talking hand format makes me smile -- it reminds me of The Friendly Giant. Now, although I prefer the default light blue on blue in person, I do prefer white text on blue for KZbin episodes, as it is so much clearer to read. Oh! And I just noticed, almost 3100 subs! Fantastic stuff!
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Look up. Look WAY up! Thanks as always :) I'll give the white on blue a try next time I do an episode with some BASIC, which probably isn't long from now :)
@Zhixalom
@Zhixalom 5 жыл бұрын
If only everybody would turn their computers on last, then the world and everything in it would finally be OK 😂 Loved the video 👍
@svenvandevelde1
@svenvandevelde1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the fastload cartridge. Now I know what functions it has.
@MobbyG
@MobbyG 4 жыл бұрын
First: I love watching your videos, especially on my lunch. They're great! I always learn something and am surprised at really how powerful these computers were for being 8bit, especially with an add on like the Fastload! Second: I always wanted one of these. I didn't play a lot of games just because of the time it took to load. I spent most of my time online on BBSes and reading messages and playing games there. But one of the games I did really like to play was Raid Over Moscow! I remember that taking a bit and I wished I had one of these.
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 5 жыл бұрын
My morning coding routine, when starting the c64 was to change the background color to black, and the text to yellow... sometimes I’d just change the text to yellow. Both were easier for me to read. I had the 1702 monitor too...
@vwlssnvwls3262
@vwlssnvwls3262 4 жыл бұрын
I think your KZbin channel is going to be my new rabbit hole when I am bored at work. :)
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you found my channel!
@xc3n
@xc3n 2 жыл бұрын
I love that I was reading a 1985 Computer Entertainment magazine, saw the ad at 10:25 then thought "how did that thing actually work?" and landed on your video from the Wikipedia page.... only to see the same ad again XD
@theEIGHTBitBox
@theEIGHTBitBox Ай бұрын
Just found this video. I have been investigating the 1541 for a few days now. The more advanced dos commands and of course fast-loaders. Next thing will be to try to execute some code within the 1541. Really good explanations. Thank you!
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын
God I LOVED my fastload cartridge! From the DOS wedge to the fast loading routines that sped up 90% of my pirated games, it never left my cartridge slot. There were very few games I used GO64 for, even most games with their own fastloader routines (Legacy of the Ancients, most other EOA games) still worked under the fastloader routines. Best thing Epyx ever made, even over Jumpman or Gateway to Apshai.
@briancherry8088
@briancherry8088 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my C64 used and it came with the Epyx FL. I cant imagine loading anything without it.
@Bruno-TheMayors
@Bruno-TheMayors 3 жыл бұрын
Can´t believe i watched through all of this. Im such a nerd. But a very well made video. Good work.
@theseriousaccount
@theseriousaccount 4 жыл бұрын
You are the only one I've ever seen who uses real chapters in youtube, and i thank you for it.
@m0nde
@m0nde Жыл бұрын
Very thorough, thanks!
@ChristiRich
@ChristiRich 2 жыл бұрын
The standard speed gives you that relaxing, ASMR sound from the drive, like the Sears cash registers in the 80's.
@Gossamer2
@Gossamer2 5 жыл бұрын
Memories..... I wish we had this sort of information back in the day! Back then we had to wait for someone to reply to your message you left on a BBS!
@TheUtuber999
@TheUtuber999 4 жыл бұрын
I had modded one of my Epyx Fast Load cartridges by adding a momentary-on pushbutton switch for reset, since the Commodore 64 didn't have one, and a toggle switch to disable the cartridge when not needed - that was to save wear-and-tear from physically removing and inserting the cartridge, which was useful when used with my Commodore 128 when booting in 128 or CP/M mode.
@donncha1
@donncha1 5 жыл бұрын
My first Epyx Fast Load cart was the one I got from TFW8bit with the SD2IEC recently so this was very informative, thanks. Back in the nineties I used an Action Replay so I prefer to see white text on blue. I don't really like the Fast Load cart. The AR had convenient function key presses, without pressing return: F1 to load, F3 for a directory (that you can stop with RUN/STOP), F5 to list and F7 to run. I'm waiting on delivery of an Ultimate 64 now, and I have to admit one of the attractions is the support for the Action Replay cart!
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and I prefer my (Canadian-made) Super Snapshot cartridge, which is very comparable to the Action Replay, to Fast Load. In fact I've heard the AR was actually a spin-off of the SS at an earlier stage of development. The SS has very similar function keypresses. However, the Fast Load is a very economical and easily-accessible alternative to the more advanced cartridges, and as I hope I showed in the video, is more capable than a lot of people think.
@2112dorf
@2112dorf 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative. The Directory feature alone makes this worth owning. You can view the contents of any disk when the $ command doesn’t work. Lots of games I didn’t know about on those disks….
@Derision667
@Derision667 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 90s, I remember how much people used to dump on the Epyx Fastload. The "serious" C64 users, especially in the US, used either Super Snapshot or JiffyDOS. Being the cheapest of the group, Epyx was of course the cartridge that I had, and I (eventually) found it to be invaluable, especially for its (slightly hobbled) monitor. The simplicity of it always appealed to me and even now, using a machine without a DOS wedge feels foreign. Jump ahead 30-ish years and, with the release of stuff like the TFW8B's Epyx Fastload Reloaded and SD2IEC (which supports it!) it has become the premier fast loader again, along with the FCIII. Nice to see it finally getting its due.
@cheater00
@cheater00 4 жыл бұрын
@8-Bit Show And Tell could you please do similar videos for the other cartridges please - the classical ones from back in the day, as well as the modern ones? this video was immensely useful for me!
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
and dolphin dos! Don't forget that. Parallel transfer on a 1541 by re-purposing the din connector pins! There is a long story behind that software... and Jim Butterfield is in that story!
@cheater00
@cheater00 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterlamont647 wow, interesting.
@StCreed
@StCreed 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterlamont647 Everyone I knew that was serious about the C64 used Dolphin Dos in the 80's
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 3 жыл бұрын
@@StCreed I didn't. In fact, I didn't even have a 'Fastload' cartridge. I used the stock 1541 for almost 10 years. Some games like Battletech gracefully had a built in turbo disk loader. We actually only got a disk drive because it was so much faster than tape, and we didn't notice it was slow. To us, it was fast...we had nothing to gauge it against. Now, I have a super snapshot V5, 2 warpspeed, and 2 fastload carts. When buying bundles of carts you get redundants sometimes. truth be told, many games and software loaded within a minute, so it really wasn't a big deal. i should add that we didn't copy disks or have backups either. We took very good care of the disks and never had a problem.
@larryaugsburger8452
@larryaugsburger8452 4 жыл бұрын
Before I had Fast Load, I had Quick Load, which required loading from disk. Having the speed improvement as a cartridge was a godsend! As a side note, I also remember putting a lot of time and money into 1541 realignment kits.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah totally forgot about Quick-Load, it was such a hassle having to load it from disk every time you restarted the computer, plus it wasn't compatible with more commercial games, only cracked one. lol
@ChrisR
@ChrisR 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid I remember drilling a hole in my fastload cart housing and putting in a momentary switch between gnd and reset on the PCB. It was so nice to finally have a hardware reset button on the 64 like the plus/4 had.......
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, too bad the C64 didn't include one standard like the Plus/4 and C128. At least they weren't too difficult to install in various ways.
@zsteinkamp
@zsteinkamp 4 жыл бұрын
Cool to hear another kid getting a start without a way to save his/her programs. We also only had a 13" black and white. Thankful to my parents for spending money on a VIC-20 (1982) instead of an Atari game system -- set me on a good career path. :) I enjoy the trip down memory lane in your videos.
@LeftoverBeefcake
@LeftoverBeefcake 5 жыл бұрын
So who here has changed the default screen colors and then later forgot what mode they were in and tried loading a C64 program when in C128 mode (and vice versa)? Just me? It's probably just me. :P The white text on blue is very readable, though I usually switch to white text on black with a blue border. Thank you so much for these videos, Robin. After all these decades this old dog is still learning new tricks! I wonder how many of us started out with their Commodores on a little black and white TV...
@richard.wilson
@richard.wilson 4 жыл бұрын
Meant to add this a while ago for anyone whos interested, to get the pound key on a US keyboard with most emulators, just use the "ALT + \" key combination. I love using my Fastload cartridge and was curious to try it out on my BMC64 Pi 3 setup. Works a treat once I worked out how to input the pound symbol on a non UK standard keyboard. Love the channel keep up the good work. Maybe more in the series for teaching 6502/10 tricks would be an awesome addition.
@StavroMueller
@StavroMueller 5 жыл бұрын
@V will reconstruct the BAM after an undelete. Also SYS57194 will re-enable Fastload
@gfmretro
@gfmretro 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. 👍
@the.real.a-volpe
@the.real.a-volpe Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1K subs..
@TheHighlander71
@TheHighlander71 5 жыл бұрын
I'd never seen the Fastload manual but apparently it has a lot in it. I've learned that manuals to old C64 games have important information in them which can really change the game (like when to press 'B' in Ghostbusters to make the ghost bait appear). This has been a very useful video :)
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын
@The Highlander That was back in the day when game manuals actually were printed on paper (and were often bundled with other "feelies"). For example, have you even seen the manuals for the Jane's flight sims like Jane's USAF or Jane's IAF? You might as well call it "everything you wanted to know about flying, but were afraid to ask"... the manual was so thick, it had to be ring-bound. These days, you're lucky if you get a slip of paper telling you that the manual can be found in PDF format on the CD, or giving you an URL where you can download the manual from the Internet. I will admit that not having to print a manual has its merits. Back in those days, manuals had to be printed months before the game's release date. If something in the game changed, it was usually too late (and expensive) to print new manuals. Electronic publishing solves that problem. I still miss the printed manuals, though. I like books and thick instruction manuals. There's nothing wrong with E-books, but you can't curl up with an E-book the way you can curl up with a real book. (Or to put it another way, I can take a book to bed with me, but I can't take my gaming tower.)
@TheHighlander71
@TheHighlander71 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpearM3064 I know..I had to do a long search to get a controller layout for Ghost Recon Wildlands. Ended up printing my own overview because I couldn't find it in a usable format anywhere else. I spent literally most of my life playing Ghostbusters on the C64 up until the point where the marshmallow man destroys the city and takes my money. Just because I didn't know I had to press B to lure it away. And all it needed was a flimsy little piece of paper. Seriously, manuals were gold. Just for the information they had in them. Try playing Iridis Alpha without a manual. Impossible.
@daz7122
@daz7122 5 жыл бұрын
Had one back in the day, loved it.
@mrdarlok
@mrdarlok Ай бұрын
Fun video, such fond memories. I had/pref the Mach-5 cartridge. Funfact, it wasn't compatible with downloading/transferring data over the modem...had a fun time debugging that as a youth :)
@rdoetjes
@rdoetjes 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, I never heard of this before. Here in Europe KCS Power Cartridge was a defacto standard as well as the Final Cartridge III. I bought (well begged) my parents for the KCS Power so I had the monitor and could program in assembler. Not aware back then about TMP or other assemblers until 1988 :)
@thenerdsentertainmentchann7922
@thenerdsentertainmentchann7922 2 ай бұрын
you came a long way since those 1k sub
@rickperez8044
@rickperez8044 5 жыл бұрын
RAT-A-TAT-A-TAT. Drive recalibration caused by copy protection schemes knocked the drives out of alignment. Thanks man. It's all coming back to me know. The late, great Jim Butterfield. His memory lives on.
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын
@Rick Perez Yeah, that was (in my opinion) one of the most important engineering flaws in the 1540 and 1541. The head stop had no way to cushion the impact, so the drive head hit the stop at full force. I think if I'd been designing it, I would've replaced the head stop with an optical sensor or something, so that when recalibrating, the stepper motor would know when to stop. Or, better yet, instead of trying to move the head 40 tracks (which is what it does)… let's say it was supposed to be reading track 17. So move it 16 tracks and read the next header block to see if it was on track 1. If not, keep moving it one track at a time until it is on track 1. Recalibration might take a little longer that way, but it'd be a lot more gentle.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Epyx Fastload back in the day and got a lot of great use out of it. I had a lot of cracked games and software. Almost all of those worked extremely well and loaded faster with the FastLoad. The few games that didn't like it usually loaded faster on their own using their own fastload routine. The Dos wedge was a very useful and valid addition that I got "spoiled" with and still don't want to do without today. I also had the Final Cartridge III which had a much faster disk loading routine but was not nearly as transparent or compatible as the FastLoad was. It did have a very good and useful freezer though and the ability to turn off sprite collisions, etc. The built in utility menu from the pound key was useful sometimes as well. Basic functionality but helpful. I still have A C64 and still use FastLoad Cartridge with it. I don't have the FCIII now although I'd love to have a Super Snapshot or AR catridge or easy flash with one of those cart images on it. Maybe later. I always found that I could leave the FastLoad cartridge in the cartridge port and never had to remove it even when it needed to be disabled. With the seamless way that the dos wedge and fastload integrated itself into the C64 it seemed like it was meant to be that way on the 64 from the factory. It just seemed like an integrated part of using the system.
@dreamvisionary
@dreamvisionary 5 жыл бұрын
@8-Bit Show And Tell, you have a very soothing voice.
@duckyvirus
@duckyvirus 5 жыл бұрын
almost 2000 subscribers now!
@SelfIndulgentGamer
@SelfIndulgentGamer 8 ай бұрын
Still an underrated channel :)
@jaybrown6350
@jaybrown6350 3 жыл бұрын
I had that one and I *loved* it.
@jjock3239
@jjock3239 10 ай бұрын
I haven't used the C64 in a long time, but I still have the computer and everything I was using at the time. I used the Snapshot cartridge, and really liked it. I have Jim Butterfield's book on Machine language Programming, and have forgotten everything I knew. Good memories.
@andrewkiw
@andrewkiw 5 жыл бұрын
We had the fastload cart back in the day, probably still around here somewhere. Also had BMX Racer, but on tape!
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid 5 жыл бұрын
That Fast Load is a sweet cart ..still use mine today.
@pcuser80
@pcuser80 5 жыл бұрын
For the ZX Spectrum there was the great Multiface by Romantic Robot. With build in compressor/decompressor.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I just read the article about it on Wikipedia. I had never heard of it!
@sulrich70
@sulrich70 5 жыл бұрын
It struck me as being one of the most highly compatible fast load carts, and good bang for buck. There was not much software on the c64 that required you to remove it in order for them to work - other carts it was quite common.
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 2 жыл бұрын
I remember 1 or 2 games max- and they weren’t great games
@loughkb
@loughkb 3 жыл бұрын
Like many, I had one as well. I also installed a reset button on the cartridge.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you've more than doubled your subscribers in 2 days!
@pierrenagonio1120
@pierrenagonio1120 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting hand talking ;) Thank you for your time sharing your knowledge. Sub+
@LordRenegrade
@LordRenegrade 3 жыл бұрын
Jumpman Junior! That takes me back :)
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Warp Speed cart. It seems just like this. Its great.
@evileyeball
@evileyeball 4 жыл бұрын
I miss Zellers... I didn't realize until now (as I am a recent subscriber) that you, like me, are Canadian. High five fellow Canuck.
@JamesJameson
@JamesJameson 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I had owned the Epyx fast loader, but it was actually the Mach 5 fast loader cartridge. I was never clever enough to use the extra features of it. I REALLY wish I had known about the super snapshot! There was so much about the c64 I didn't know as a youngster!
@randystiles230
@randystiles230 4 жыл бұрын
Fast Load was a must on mine!
@petersoumanis5494
@petersoumanis5494 3 жыл бұрын
Hah! Haven't heard the phrase "Fast Hack'Em" since 1991. I finally retired using my C64 in 1992 when I got into Uni, but I with the C64 I learnt to code in BASIC & Pascal, and wrote a crap-ton of essays using Easyscript. I never knew how to get my hands on a machine code monitor back then, and ended up learning Assembler for the 8085 in Uni #memories
@laurent64
@laurent64 5 жыл бұрын
You must be a teacher ! you're just too good at this !
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a teacher professionally, but I have taught Scratch and C64 BASIC programming to groups of kids before. And both my parents are (retired) teachers, so maybe there's something to it :)
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer the white text on the blue background. It must be my tired, old eyes. Cheers from Ottawa :-)
@johnsaller2481
@johnsaller2481 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say this is great for the epyx fastload review as I had forgotten most of it. The @S command you did on a protected file showed 01 scratched, 0,0 which was 0 deleted which is what you showed but youi said it said 1 before you showed it. This is just for people that remember "white fang" on the soupy sales show, this made me laugh as you talked with the hand.
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it did anything besides disk speed augmentation. I have two of them and I had no idea until today!
@nemysisretrogaming3771
@nemysisretrogaming3771 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the fast load mainly because it was way cheaper than the action replay. I wish I could remember what the syntax was, but you could write proper 3 letter code with the fast load and also list machine code. I used it when I was programming assembly. Sei, ldx# 00, ldy# 00, stx $d020, sty $d021 lol. I must have had a later version as you could bring up the machine code monitor while games were running. It gave me a chance to view code and learn so I could write my own routines. Ps great channel and subbed.
@westerngodzilla
@westerngodzilla 5 жыл бұрын
Jumpman Junior was my first game on the C64. I still love it.
@ttfidrat
@ttfidrat 5 жыл бұрын
The C64 mini includes Jumpman and Jumpman 2(jr). It plays exactly like my original JJ cartridge.
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I don't even remember how much time I spent playing Jumpman and Jumpman Junior.
@PieFights
@PieFights 5 жыл бұрын
3 of the games that the ad showed I had on my c64 and played alot of both Jumpman and Jumpman JR
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
Both brilliant games!
@alpharisc
@alpharisc 4 жыл бұрын
BMX Racerswas the first ever game I played on the C64 back in 1986 :D
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5
@jim_64s8-bitprojects5 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! (again!) One annoyance of the Fast Load cartridge is it does not speed the loading of the directory or sequentially read files. For all my programs, I make sure any secondary data files are loaded into memory using the LOAD"FILE",8,1 method with the first two file bytes defining the memory location. This way the data files load fast too with Epyx Fast Load.
@danutes.8210
@danutes.8210 4 жыл бұрын
What a great guy. I just imagine an guy in 2019 solving forgoten Iphone lock code.. and then this video. It hurts damn.
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 5 жыл бұрын
After my VIC-20 (like you with no storage at all at first!), then VIC-20 with tape drive, I leapt ahead to C-128D, skipping right over the slow loading of C-64 somewhat. The C-128D with its built in 1571 had fast loading built into ROM ("fast loaders" use the hardware shift register instead of bit-banging each bit onto the I/O line in software - it is the C64 kernel software's fault it is so slow, the hardware gave them the capability to fast load from day one). I'm sure you know all about it, perhaps a video on putting code on the drive and maybe some drive memory map and I/O map info would be awesome. IIRC there is a channel 15 command to put machine code into drive memory you mentioned once. I never got that deep into my C-128, was not advanced enough by then I think.
@r000tbeer
@r000tbeer 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember how many yards I had to mow in order to buy that cartridge. Worth every penny at the time!
@matti157
@matti157 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын
Fast Hack 'Em by Mike J. Henry. When I was working at Electronic Arts Canada and went to speak with Mike who was employed by them and thank him as an inspiration along with a friend of mine, he was VERY unwilling to talk to us about it......I wonder why....
@8_Bit
@8_Bit Жыл бұрын
Mike J. Henry moved to Canada to work for EA? Very interesting!
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын
@@8_Bit This was a long-ass time ago, late 1990s....but I just realized I may have mixed up his name with Kevin Pickell, coder of another great pirate program Super Kwik Copy and not Mike Henry. I will check with my friend in question, I don't want to pass false info.
@Tangobaldy
@Tangobaldy 5 жыл бұрын
Subbed
@shawbros
@shawbros 4 жыл бұрын
I had a few mastertronic games. They were fun. The ones I recall having: Kikstart Henry's House
@quantass
@quantass 4 жыл бұрын
Robin, could you make an episode going into how the Epyx Fast Loader achieved its fast loading abilities? That is, what was the magic assembly which fixed the C64.
@Dorff_Meister
@Dorff_Meister 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always terrible at reading manuals - I'm certain I didn't know the order of turning things oof. In my house, these things were probably almost never turned off. I loved my FastLoad. It always always amusing how territorial people were with their fastloader cartridge selection.
@eebaker699
@eebaker699 5 жыл бұрын
Good video.. lots of useful information. I too get that F??? Error just in the same position from time to time.... Not too sure what causes it ..... Any suggestions???? Keep up the hard work..... Thanks for sharing
@Darkk6969
@Darkk6969 3 жыл бұрын
I've used the Epyx Fast Load with my C64 and it was great. Then I read in some magazine, probably Compute! Gazette, that I can install a reset button on the cartridge which I did. It saved the power button!
@Watcher680116
@Watcher680116 2 жыл бұрын
One major feature not mentioned: It was one of the very few software fast loaders not blanking the screen. It would have been more obvious if you would have used a game which shows a loading screen. Like a lot of mastertronic tapes game copyied to disk by a "parameter" tool. I used to buy games on tape because the tape games were often 5 or 10 DM cheaper as disk games and then used freezer or parameter copy tools to play them from disk. BTW / half off topic: I made a turbo tape clone which could load without the screen banking. I just made the one bits shorter and the zero bits longer on save and added a command to disable screen blanking for loading. Of course it could only load files with screen unblanked which were saved with it, but the files saved with it could be loaded with any turbo tape clone. As a listing of a british c64 magazine I also found a tape speeder allowing to load with screen on which used the load/save vectors instead of arrow commands but it was not TT compatible and a little slower. But not as slow as most commercial built in game loaders. In the early days I used to backup programs on tape with turbo tape while disks were expensive. Off topic - suggestion: Later I had Dolphin Dos, which could use Tracks 36-40. I found that other hardware speeders also had such features but were not compatible because e.g. the densitiy settings for the additional tracks (or a flag indicating the 40 track usage?) were not the same. This would be an interesting topic for a video, and also if it would be possible to change the density settings for the other tracks to increase disk capacity. I wonder which densities would phyiscally work... At least track 18 should stay as it is so directory listing is still possible without a modified drive rom or software.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Good idea. I did this once in a while with the FCIII cartridge to save it directly to disk and worked well.
@brianwolters7560
@brianwolters7560 Жыл бұрын
I remember the ad of a frustrated guy and it calling the 1541 a "Lumbering Hippo"...this cartridge was so required after I got it...used it until I sold my C64 for an Amiga 2000.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit Жыл бұрын
Apparently hippos can run 30 kph so it wasn't a very good comparison!
@RyanSmith-pf7ci
@RyanSmith-pf7ci Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I never knew the commodore runstop thing!
@Lofote
@Lofote 4 жыл бұрын
There was a way to see the directory of a disk on a stock C64 without software without overwriting your program. LOAD"$",8,1 ",1" will make it load at the start of screen memory (1024), because out of some luck the first bytes are 00 04, so it will force it to load into screen memory. It will look strange, but you can read the file names at least. Note that long directories will eventually overwrite BASIC programs once it surpasses byte 2048, so be sure to RUN STOP before the screen fills up fully on long disk directories.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was because the Commodore PET line started BASIC memory at $0400 that the directory loaded at that address, and then it never changed in later disk drives, presumably for backwards compatibility.
@Lofote
@Lofote 4 жыл бұрын
@@8_Bit Yes. And that can be used for good now :)
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