Exploring "Liverpool's Most Dangerous Housing Estate" (According To The Liverpool Echo)

all info can be found here...
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...
primrose court liverpool,huyton or knowsley?
apparently a nogo area im told ?
according to the liverpool echo "liverpools most dangerous housing estate"
taking the piss out the echo story don't take offence
#liverpool #flytippers #primrosecourt

[@kookytoots6755]

Been homeless many times, to see beautiful houses being given to people who don't appreciate them is heartbreaking. I know it could also be people who don't live there who causes trouble

[@barnbersonol]

There was a lovely Barrat estate built near me 20-odd years ago. Most of it is private but a couple of streets were bought by a housing association and believe, within a year those streets were scruffy AF with overgrown gardens and rubbish strewn everywhere. On warm summer nights especially you'd always hear em outside getting pissed up and shouting. (South Wales)

[@stephenstephen6754]

👍👌❤

[@clouddog2393]

There should be zero tolerance for these lowlives . One strike and you,re out is the answer . lf these types realised they would wind up evicted and homeless they would think twice . The reason they get away with what they do is the bleeding heart liberals most councils are full of who always find excuses for their anti social behaviour .

[@thetruthk5138]

@@barnbersonol That's what you get mixing social housing with private . Most people just want a quiet life and not pay hundreds of thousands to live near any knuckle draggers

[@incognito6313]

Because housing associations do 0. The estate I lived in a while ago was less than 3 years old and a family of immigrants were moved in and they vandalised cars, my house, other people's houses and the surrounding area and just general Anti Social behaviour. When the car was vandalised their finger prints were all over and the police just ignored as they were kids and said I should've got cctv. This is just the age we live in now where you have to resolve things yourself. When I moved the father that never listened had acquired a very nice car. Let's just say that car was visited at a later date 😅 Bet his premiums alot hight now. My advice be patient and deal out your own justice because the system isn't there for us at the bottom or even the middle.

[@limpet7r63]

I grew up in a council house in the 70s and 80s. My parents treated it like their own. Kept it clean, well decorated, kept the garden tidy. They didn't have money to chuck about, it certainly wasn't expensively decorated and furnished, but they took pride in it, and it was a nice place to live. The same applied to most of the people in the street and on the wider estate. I don't know what's gone wrong in society now. It's not about money, it's about having a bit of dignity and pride. Councils and housing associations need to start getting tough. A house is an expensive asset, and if you get given one and either smash it up, or become a nuisance to everyone around you, you need to be turfed out, and pursued for costs. And by pursued, I mean have assets seized, and be sent down if you can't pay. In an age where people are homeless or on endless waiting lists for council or association housing, and many more others are working hard and struggling, anyone wilfully damaging a house in this way needs to be made an example of.

[@Shaundrocks]

Don't let one bad council estate make you think all council estates are like that now. Just because you lived in a nice one in the 70's and 80's doesn't mean all were nice back then.

[@mickbitchum4664]

The council used to do regular checks back in them days and tenants would have some pride in the way they get them. I remember my mum sweeping the pavement and road outside our house. Every house in the street would be tidy. That same street now has overgrown gardens full of litter and junk, nobody takes pride in there homes appearance- except for a Polish family who's home is immaculate. The council standards and the mentality of the people living there has severely dropped over the years!

[@limpet7r63]

@@Shaundrocks it wasn’t utopia. There were rough families and there was trouble occasionally. But most people were decent and looked after their houses. I drove down my old road a couple of years ago, and the sort of neglect and vandalism that stood out just didn’t exist then. I thought it might have been rose tints and nostalgia but looking back through the old photo albums shows it wasn’t. The scumbag count has exploded in the UK in recent years.

[@Gabzerelli5]

Welfare state and worker rights have gone down the pan, because the British public seem to like voting for it...

[@kimberleysmith818]

I don’t care who you are, where you are or what you own. Just treat your home with respect. I think that’s all it is. I’ve only recently become a homeowner but even renting I always tried to be respectful. My uncle is high up on construction and has seen all sorts. He’s seen homeowners treat their homes like crap and renters privately And council treat them like castles. Just have some pride in your home. That estate in the video would have been beautiful once. I’d have been proud to rent or buy. I’ve rented in fair worse looking places and far worse houses and they’ve not ended up like this. Some people have no respect.

[@elliotclarke5149]

I lived in a traditionally rough part of Plymouth moving in at 21 as its all I could afford. Me and my fiancé who are both from middle class backgrounds found some of the neighbours very pleasant. I went on to be director on the association and we spent a lot of our own time tending to the grounds. Picking up rubbish and I built an allotment on some dead ground that all Could use. This had a knock on effect where rubbish doesn't appear to end up on the floor and everyone else felt inspired to take pride and decorate the garden. It's really snowballed and I'm so proud of where the place is now compared to 7 years ago. And there hasn't been a massive change over of people. Just attitude

[@baileyharris4161]

What a dickhead why try and make places like this better keep them in one place best thing for them

[@Inexpressable]

sometimes that's all it takes to change a place. one person doing the right thing, showing others they can do it too.

[@cbrrob1670]

May I ask what area I'm a Plymouth lad myself

[@elliotclarke5149]

@@cbrrob1670 devonport. I think the area is lovely with a park nearby but it's not without its social problems. I moved in 2015 without knowing the area and was told and am still told to this day (to my annoyance) its rough. Anywhere is what you make of it. There's a real sense of community there and I focus on all the positives and already miss it having moved away 2 months ago.

[@cbrrob1670]

@@elliotclarke5149 I'm not from Devonport myself but I do know a few who are and I've definitely got to say Devonport has a stronger community than any other area in Plymouth. Its nice to know someone local to me has made a difference and I wouldn't class Devonport as rough although it definitely dose have it's parts still.

[@MaximusJohal]

The houses look decent, just shows what happens when you give nice things to people that don't appreciate it. They ruin it for themselves and others.

[@jonesconrad1]

exactly what I was thinking mate.

[@Dr.Hoffman]

It's likely a couple of families as the root cause with most others living in fear, trying to mind their own business else be subjected to violent repercussions. Needs to be harsher measures for such scummy families.

[@collyfree9504]

You try growing up there 😂

[@Scotland29]

Probably gang/drug related

[@nohandle747]

New, not decent.

[@warrenjones7327]

I'm a cabbie and work and live close to primrose.... Gypsies moved in and destroyed the close and that is an absolute fact. The tenants of neighbouring houses had to move out hence the boarded up ones. The council would not get involved as it was classed as a private estate leading to no lighting or bin collections. On leaving the gypsies set fire to houses and left it an absolute shambles.

[@martinjay3570]

Probably didn't get involved because they're as bad .

[@joshhancill7273]

Dirty spunk trumpets the lot of then

[@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool]

And they wonder why normal people hate them.

[@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool]

@@karenmbbaxter Not really English gypsies, but more likely Irish & adopted England as their home.

[@1chish]

@@karenmbbaxter No the scroats that did this shit were NOT 'English Gypsies'. For a start there are very few left. No these would be Irish 'Travellers'. To call them Gypsies is an insult to some decent people as true Gypsies do not take over other people's land and property and then destroy it as the Travellers always do. Their kids are feral and have no respect of discipline (outside the caravan) and their parents and older siblings will use violence at the slightest provocation.

[@pam164]

Only takes one problem family to move in a street and it brings it down.

[@davidclark3603]

One bad apple spoils the whole barrel!

[@johncarlin8755]

Not if you don't take their shit clamp down on them right away.

[@aguyfromscotland5552]

Very true

[@pam164]

@@johncarlin8755 Yes but if they turn the area into no go area? And make the street look terrible. One family can't straighten that out!

[@alanmurphy8137]

There's no go areas all over the UK or even the world, makes Liverpool people look shit, worse places than this in our country, the media and other cities already highlight Liverpool, we don't need to add to it.

[@lollydoneahoe]

I’m renting in a really rough area in Liverpool, the police are regularly around and there’s often fights on the street. One man in particular was the main cause of trouble and once he moved the street got significantly quieter- the police only coming once every two weeks instead of once every two days. It’s amazing how one person can negatively affect a whole street. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a very rough street but now it really isn’t half as bad as it used to be, all because of one man leaving!

[@327legoman]

It's things like this which make me think long and hard as to whether I want to return to the UK and have a life there, or stay abroad.

[@Liam-ke2hv]

@@327legoman as a lifelong UK citizen I would recommend staying abroad, this country is a joke

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@327legoman Abroad where? Where are you currently?

[@gazzy9136]

Aye all it takes it the local psychopath causing mayhem for everyone in the estate lol

[@spareumbrella8477]

I went to Speke once, I was doing door to door fundraising for charity, and whilst I wasn't threatened directly, I saw no fewer than 3 street fights, and when it came to the end of the day, I was hanging around a shop for my pickup, and a few lads (15-16, maybe?) approached me and asked if I was police. I said no, I'm a charity fundraiser. They recommended I get on the phone and get my pickup to hurry up, cause I'm a pretty big lad, had a short back and sides at the time, so I looked like I might be a police officer, and that's enough for some of the families living in that area. Like I said, I visited Speke -once-.

[@trippymchippy8586]

After 12 years working in Spain, covid and brexit forced me back to the UK a year ago. It took me 9 months to get a home from a local social housing association. Every step of the way they have been amazed that I'm polite, grateful and I keep the place tidy and nice. They are so used to dealing with scumbags and I have to say - in this converted Victorian house, with lovely high celings and a nice garden, of the 6 flats, one is the bad egg. Happens to be my neighbour. He smokes crack and menaces everyone. I'm standing up to him but it's opened my eyes to the sort of ungrateful losers in the system. I feel like he doesn't deserve the support - there's lots of decent people in need of help.

[@Mayaman67]

A brave man going back. I guess you had to. Brexit screwed it up for a lot of us. I am TEFL teacher so Europe was my oyster . Not so easy now.

[@trippymchippy8586]

@@Mayaman67 Indeed Keith - alas, it wasn't bravery - I was self-employed and covid wrecked my business, brexit just made the notion of rebuilding in Spain much less realistic. I miss that life enormously.

[@Mayaman67]

@@trippymchippy8586 Well good luck mate.

[@trippymchippy8586]

@@Mayaman67 Muchas gracias amigo :)

[@Mayaman67]

@@trippymchippy8586 de nada.

[@patriciacorcoran4582]

People that ruin neighbourhoods should be given a tent and told to go take a hike and not be housed anywhere else

[@sr7791]

I wouldn’t even give them a tent

[@batintheattic7293]

Nooo.. That's just foisting the problem on somebody else!

[@lizsa3145]

Exactly...but they know that it takes a very long time to move them out..all the court proceedings and paper work etc..it's all due to the social demographics

[@airhab]

No because then it would be like skid row Los Angeles.

[@davidbentley4370]

They won't do that as these families have about 12 kids aswell

[@lindylou7853]

Dreadful. Such a waste. Down south those detached houses would be worth £400,000, but that’s not the point. People who need housing desperately can’t access these houses that were very nice on completion. Nowadays, everybody wants everything but they don’t know or want to know how to look after it. Someone I worked with complained that her new 3 bedroomed semi-detached council house, “didn’t have a garage and didn’t even have a washing machine and dishwasher plumbed in”, on her moving date.

[@lennon1482]

400k for some lego kit thrown up by eastern europeans, you southerners are are an easy touch

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

@@lennon1482 Yeah It's brilliant isn't it! We've made so much money from the UK building trade. My grandkids will never have to work ever again.

[@juliadagnall7103]

I'm a Scouser and this absolutely horrified me 🙁 I am a calm, peaceful, helpful, kind person and to think that people live like this just a few miles away from me is terrifying

[@mxbx307]

And to think how recent this mess is. I can remember day-by-day some of what I was doing in June 2018 so not exactly ancient history. When Prince Harry got married in May 2018 this street was totally normal.

[@SonOfSassy]

It's Gypsys that live there. I live in hillside 5 mins away from here. Gypsy think it's there land. Council built on it. They have been at war for years.

[@samoday2992]

Yeah these houses look lovely compared to the council estate i was bought up on

[@Muflinn]

​​@@davidwanklyn8842give me a break, I have been having problems falling asleep normally for 3 years because three Scouse families moved in opposite my house and now there are police almost every day, constant fights in the street, small children left outside until late hours, screaming, parties at night, garbage scattered everywhere, drinking, drugs and living on the benefits like parasites, of course blaming everyone around them for everything.I have to go to work to pay taxes for these idiots and they don't have to, that's why they treat others without any respect because for these people, life means sitting on your ass at home watching Netflix for the rest of your days, waiting for the money to come from the government and that's it all the time 😮

[@knightstemplar1967]

A National disgrace that houses are boarded up when there is such a need due to the disgusting behaviour of a minority this is a small snapshot that is being repeated around the uk not just inner cities but towns and I’ve seen small villages with a similar problem, locals too scared to say anything due to a broken justice system and a broken society.

[@michaelnunn3669]

I so agree with you!

[@midgecooper1772]

100 % correct.

[@lyndawilson3297]

Disgraceful, a brand new housing estate being treated like this, who the fk allocated the tenants FFS

[@johnmitchell2269]

Put scumbags in a nice new property, guess what, they will still be scumbags.

[@mickbitchum4664]

What's even worse is these scumbags have kids who become even bigger scumbags! Men and women with such a low IQ should be sterilised/given the snip.

[@paulmcdonald7041]

In around 1980, a Councillor for Huyton started giving the council houses in this area to young single mothers who went on to have kids with multiple fathers. As the elderly residents passed away the phenomenon grew and within a decade, the area was a ghetto. My aunt still lives there in the old ex council house. Many of the houses were demolished and replaced with private housing. However, the social housing which was rebuilt ended up in the state which you see in this video. Conclusion : No aspirations and no commitment leads to anarchy..

[@jacktravers5049]

Anarchy would be better, there is a very clear social order in these kinda places...

[@nigelmiller500]

These scenes will increase as the state increases and the church and sense of community decreases .

[@poetlorryit]

The Devil makes work for idle hands 🤔

[@sade799]

The importance of fathers is evident!

[@totaltwit]

I learnt a very long time ago by working on a lot of council estates: give a location (part of town) a lot of nice new houses to live in, come back in a few months time, most get trashed just as we see here. There are some council tenants who kept a really nice house and garden :) I remember going into a house, the woman was Afro-carribian, her house was a delight. Next door neighbour was scum, fleas, dirt and the rest. Some council tenant types complain about having to live in "sh!t 'oles" (rubbish houses) when in fact given them a nice place and all they know is to destroy it, then complain about it. Demand the Council give them a new.. this and that. In some ways I can see why many Councils (if not all) sold off their housing stock. I suspect these places are just encampments for low criminals. They rule the area, police dare not go in, perfect for hoarding stolen goods, drugs etc. The lowly criminals will police their own.. oi!

[@totaltwit]

@Yo Ma I have seen on new build housing estate (building site), we were being watched from a distance. Many houses were 70% complete, "thieves" came over night, ripped the lead off the roofs which the roofers had only installed the day previous (so when it rained the houses got soaked). They'd ripped out all the copper pipes, ripping the plasterboard to shreds. I believe there has been a change to how metal scrapyards buy metals, they must buy from "licensed" sellers and not deal in cash. I may not have that quite right. All the same it's a good move. Crooks will still find a buyer one way or another, the trick is to keep making it harder to convert stolen items into cash.

[@Kni0002]

Should at least have a database to record bad tenants and refuse them a house or give them a ruined house

[@mxbx307]

@@totaltwit I heard a lot of the reputable scrappers just won't touch things like copper wiring and lead because there's a 99.99% chance it's dodgy. The law has indeed changed and metal scrappers need to be registered and licensed. Copper theft is one of the reasons BT stepped up the rollout of newer stuff and they actually had a dedicated corporate investigation team who turned up at scrapyards asking awkward questions. Fibre optics and aluminium have no theft value and also work better for telecoms.

[@robertbryan4640]

I bet its one or two horrible families and their delinquent kids making life unbearable for everyone else and most of them move out.

[@terryhorne2582]

Correct. You get them everywhere, it only takes one foul mouthed family with no scruples to ruin a once decent area.

[@lemsip207]

@@terryhorne2582 Yes it only takes one or two to bring an estate or street down.

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

There looks to be one on our estate . Four houses all next to each other look a bit shonky and the scummy mummies are always swearing at the kids, who all seem to be ten year old boys, give them three years and won't they behave? And any men are working on knackered 20 year old luxury cars that have sat for years in pools of oil and antifreeze. Ones to watch

[@beaterbikechannel2538]

@@lemsip207 ones emerging on the estate I live on. while it is a nice place, for now.

[@lemsip207]

@@beaterbikechannel2538 Working on cars for other people so they can earn money cash in hand or working on their own cars with this fantasy of souping them up but can't be bothered half the time. I can't stand it when men work on cars for cash in hand when if they are going to do that they should find proper indoor premises. It looks so unsightly. I had a boyfriend who told me he used to do that and people they knew wouldn't go anywhere else but him to look at his cars. His family and the people they knew from school or living nearby were like a mafia who would do jobs for each other and often as not badly. They weren't allowed to go elsewhere to get a birthday cake decorated or a car repaired. I'm glad I got away from them because he said his family had a motto "Mess with one of us and you hear from all of us". His daughter threatened to hunt me down after I broke up with him and we broke up because I was sick and tired of her trying to control him and me. She disdained every hobby I had whether it was an outside activity or at home but I didn't drop it for her. Thankfully she didn't know where I lived but had she turned up I would have called the police. He had put up with her controlling him but I couldn't do anything about that though I tried. She had continued to live in his house after she had two children and even moving in the father of the younger child in. The elder child was the result of a one night stand. After his wife died he had allowed them to have the run of his house while he confined himself to his bedroom except when using the bathroom and kitchen briefly. They eventually moved out but his daughter would turn up whenever to deliver her monologues and treat his home like it belonged to her. The last straw came when her elder son turned 13 and was doing the same at 8am because he had an early morning paper round and would finish early. I was glad when he left to get to school particularly as he had very bad body odour and would walk in and leave the front door wide open in January. I began to wonder if she was the landlord and not the local authority. There's a huge expanded garage in my street that belonged to someone who ran a car repair business before he retired. He owned one of the houses behind it and that garage was his personal garage at one time. Then he sold the business to someone else and both do or did a decent job and get the repairs done quickly with all the equipment needed to jack the car up and lift the engine out. Engines are so heavy they shouldn't be lifted out by hand. These are the sort of people you should take to get your car repaired not somebody who repairs them on their front drive or lawn.

[@kimsmith9545]

What a shame , they are nice houses what’s wrong with people!!!

[@memeguyTM]

Exactly. It looks luxury compared to most places I see these days

[@peteryyz43]

Kim Smith: Britain is what's wrong with people.

[@nicholasjones5970]

I grew up in a similar area. I’m 23 now, got out, moved to the countryside. Lucky enough to be able to buy my own home and not look back. Childhood ruined with drugs, alcohol, poverty and crime. It’s sucks to see every estate on Merseyside not look too dis similar to this nowadays.

[@xMentalukx]

I live in a similar housing estate in the south east, when we moved in locals called my road which was the worst of a bad bunch Beirut, this was over twenty years ago the reputation still stands but the trouble families have moved on. The local council used this street as a dumping ground for the worst of the worst and threw impoverished families with housing problems into the middle of it, attitudes changed over time and the police and local council had to break up the troubles here which was mainly the same local families all related to each other, today there's no worries.

[@jameskellard5075]

I lived in a place like that in Bournemouth. It was a larger estate than this called Keeble Rd and should have been lovely. The houses were a decent size and all had gardens but perhaps a dozen families ruined it for everyone. They were like animals, drug dealing, theft, criminal damage, they set fire to my car and tried to set fire to my house,. They shot my dog and dragged one of my daughters off her bike and hit her around the head with wheel braces, my other daughter was beaten by two young twin boy with shovels. I used to pick my children up from school and walk home, if the women from the estate were waiting they'd spit at my girls. The police were useless, in fact they lied about what happened there. One woman was walking her daughter home and a gang caught her and threatened her daughter at knifepoint. I was in the army reserve and had been called up, my wife phoned me in a panic and said they were trying to break in, she had called the police but they hadn't come. In the end I got some soldiers in my unit to travel twenty miles away to go to my place to look after them, the police never did arrive. I complained to my MP and Dorset police wrote saying that no incidents had been reported by any resident in the previous two years, clearly a lie because some houses had been burned out. We left and moved to a place just a little better before finally moving to a decent nice area. The police lack the willingness to get involved, some of the youths are protected by them because they are a source of information. That was twenty years ago, but I pass my old house once in a while and nothing seems to have improved, the house has been burned out twice and the windows are always smashed to those youths, now parents themselves, have brought their kids up to be just like them.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

Jeez, that’s awful mate, I’m so glad you and your family have moved on.

[@narcleptik]

Jesus Christ hope your family are alright

[@bennyboy2079]

It's the way some are raised ....its a shame

[@lloyds053]

You should of gone back when you an family had moved away and beat the shit out of at least one of them for doing wha they did. Gettin nothing done to them in return is unbelievable mate

[@sniffadoghq]

Cool story bro 🙄

[@Bobrogers99]

It's painful to see a relatively new neighborhood being destroyed by its residents. It may be just a few that are causing the problems, but the others can't afford to move away.

[@Meloncholymadness]

@Muney Jordan is a pro Import the third world, experience cultural enrichment....

[@leearchibald7064]

If people were actually convicted of crimes in this country most of the low life's who ruin our places like this would be locked away. Stop giving soft sentences and then suspending them for 12 month and actually send them to prison

[@awadafuk4863]

Difficult with underfunded police, underfunded courts, and jails outsourced to companies trying to make a profit off the top

[@officialdazer]

Pretty stupid assumption when British prisons used to be absolute hell holes breaching human rights but it didn't stop crime going up. The courts are corrupt and so is the council. Making sentences harsher isn't going to stop crimes from happening when it is societal at it's core

[@jjcoola998]

As an American I can assure you jail and prison don’t work like that lol

[@dirtydan2721]

This would only work if they reinstated the death penalty and started executing people before they could have kids and spread their violent genes.

[@Russ2311]

It's rough in my area. My neighbour has all their windows boarded up. I got woke up to 4 lads smashing them in. I shouted wtf you doing and they jump in a van and drove off. There's never a dull day on my street, I've lived on here for 22 years. I'm used to the drama and everyone knows me so I never get any trouble at my door. It's shit how they house druggies and non working folk next to working class people who have to get up early and earn a living. They've even moved loads of Afghans in a few streets away. That shit will kick off soon. Its inevitable.

[@Guitar6ty]

Years ago Huyton was an aspirational place to live simply because there were weekly housing inspections. People had to keep their gardens tidy and not allowed dogs or make noise otherwise they would be thrown out. doing away with housing inspectors has been a very costly mistake socially and financially.

[@jennifersivewright3117]

I live in what was a quiet cul de sac. 25 years ago they built 12 enormous 4 bed Housing Association properties. The residents aren’t as bad as this lot but they have ruined the street. Litter everywhere. Bins over flowing, kids using the road as a play area even though they all have huge gardens. All parents early thirties who have zero respect for people like my husband in his late sixties.

[@matty6848]

@@jennifersivewright3117 yep and i bet not one of them has done a days work in their lives? Because they’ve never had to work for anything they don’t appreciate anything!

[@phild3537]

@@matty6848 easy to generalise and think the same of all people that they must be scum or leaches on society but these people are a symptom of our society. Knowsley most underfunded in England. Growing up around violence and crime it is not easy to get out from this path. Generations of people living in these situations has caused this but yes its easy to say get a job and make yourself feel better than these people. Take any of these lads at birth and bring them up with money somewhere nice with good parents and they will be good people. We are all products of our environment and for some there is no way out but to fight.

[@scouser2597]

@@phild3537 Well said mate 👍

[@johanweakley2658]

@@phild3537 maybe. In South Africa, where people have had access to all the state machinery for the last 30 years, it's a shit show. But again, it's mostly the ANC government to blame. The ordinary bloke tries his best but is powerless against the thugs who are in charge of the country

[@Pappa953]

The problems all started when Gypsies moved in and totally ransacked the place. They were there a couple of months. No street lights. I own one of the houses there. I have also lived there so lm talking from a ‘lived’ experience. Previous to the Gypsies it was local thugs and drug dealers. A couple of the houses were being used as Canabis farms. Shame really the houses are actually nice units with a good size garden.

[@anthonydowling3356]

If you tried to sell how much would you likely get ?

[@mickharrison9004]

Yeah sounds like a big shame with knobheads putting the area down ,on a smaller level in a previous house I lived in with family ,we moved in across the road in cul de sac was only a church 3 years later the fkn church got together with housing association and for church repairs they asked for 10 houses in church car park got knocked back ,but a year later they put in for 6 and got it through all of a sudden the street changed from quiet peacefull place to a crazy dangerous place ,with one of the worst family's in Blackpool knife and drug merchants ex gypos moved in house opposite mine ,nothing more needs to be said ,fkn nightmare kids scared to go out for me having a go a couple of them came for me with a knife ,one hadn't been out of nick for long after stabbing a doorman local club.

[@walshydpo]

I'll wager they've never layed eyes on a Waitrose delivery van. That house had a caravan in the drive for heavens sake.

[@ivorscrotumic3556]

If the Gypsies came after the local thugs & drug dealers, then how can the problems have all started with the Gypsies...?? That doesn't make any sense at all. Are you saying that the local thugs & drug dealers weren't a problem...?

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

@@anthonydowling3356 Are we talking cannabis?

[@bravosierra8720]

Liverpools most dangerous housing estate - “as we were leaving, someone shouted Oi”

[@natwel1544]

That’s very serious.

[@mrmikeh-nv7cq]

One vision housing in Sefton have destroyed parts of bootle. They cram in loads and loads of unruly families. People have had enough. I absolutely hate them.

[@TC-jg3cz]

😂

[@GenaF]

Primrose court looks like a private residential area, not council or housing assoc. Its sad seeing those houses looking so battered as they don't hold up like the old terraced houses.

[@Asty1980]

​@@GenaF definitely looks like housing association

[@bienenfluegel]

I lived in a couple rough areas in Glasgow. One place had its street littered in furniture, today a bed, tomorrow a fridge, couple couches, blocking both sidewalk and street, with a landlord that would just walk in "because he had a spare key" creepy as hell. In another place I found myself crawling over palettes or sofas because someone used them to barricade the stairs. Lived on the third floor, crack addicts had cut the wire to all stairway lights so they wouldn’t be seen. Retrospectively I’m actually surprised I have never run into major trouble there and survived.

[@kdburner7356]

ah, Glesga😍

[@j_c2225]

@@kdburner7356 Glasgow is nowhere near as rough as Liverpool

[@kdburner7356]

@@j_c2225 interesting, so you’re proud of how rough and dirty your area is? 😂

[@j_c2225]

@@kdburner7356 in which part of my comment did I sound proud? And which part of my comment was funny?

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

Is it the Gorbals, Balornock, Barmulloch, Easterhouse, Ibrox, Castlemilk, Cambuslang, Barrhead, Shettleston? I feel safer in Govanhill!

[@semiacoustic2017]

Really nice houses, with appreciative people living there would make a nice little community. Sad that the Council can't or won't recognise that.

[@markstarmer3677]

Lefty councils are never for the local working man.

[@alis5893]

In this country ... every bum , addict , low life , good for nothing sub human is considered a valuable member of society benefiting from the benefit culture. UK benefits are like a blood line feeding cancer cells.

[@scooby1992]

@@markstarmer3677 I dunno , You get areas like this everywhere .I once drove through a really rough part of Gainsborough where the houses didnt look as good as these . This a town in true Blue Tory Lincolnshire

[@markstarmer3677]

@@scooby1992 your right, this isn't exclusively labour councils. The majority are though.

[@davecollins9075]

That's because no one from the council live there

[@snakefollower]

These houses actually look quite nice. What a shame about many being boarded up when many are in need of a nice family home. It cannot be nice having to put up with issues and a reputation of the estate and having to live next door to boarded up property.

[@chrisjones3901]

They could put some illegal immigrants in there and see how long it takes them to want to go home lol

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@chrisjones3901 My dad told me ages ago that once some Romanians were moved to a rough area in Ireland, the houses were petrol bombed or something and in the end they left. Lol.

[@garethhancock8525]

@@Meloncholymadness when you say ages ago..... How long do you actually mean

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@garethhancock8525 Honestly, I just remember him telling mw the story, and I have no idea of when the event actually happened, it could have been way before he told me. I'm 34 now, I must have been a teen, I'd guess around 15 years ago. That's a rough guess though. My dad's is certainly not the type to make stuff up, so it must have happened, I don't know when though.

[@garethhancock8525]

@@Meloncholymadness thanks for the reply, in no way was I questioning your dads honestly autumn, but it's just good to get a timeline on this stuff that's all, thanks

[@RK-rf8rc]

This might sound harsh but if there’s people in society who are solely living to make their environment worse and to negatively affect the lives of those living around them, then I don’t see any reason why they should be allowed to live in society full stop. Do with them what you will but no one deserves to be terrorised by others.

[@munchymcmouthington298]

A lot of people are the product of their circumstances. Bad parents breed bad kids that become bad parents. What we need is stuff like sure start that helps people out of this cycle. Crime is seldom as mindless as people think. The powerless and disenfranchised don't stand a chance.

[@RK-rf8rc]

@@munchymcmouthington298 oh I agree with you. Should be tackled at the source (ie. Parenting, education, opportunities). It’s a complex issue for sure. I grew up on a council estate too, I had the same start as everyone else in the area. Whereas I went to university, moved to a different country and live a pretty good life, there were others who chose to menace everyone else around them and generations get sucked into a circle of shit because life is just easier when you don’t take responsibility for yourself. Mentorship is the most important thing in my opinion, whether a parent, a friend, a teacher. Someone to show you there’s a better way and that’s there’s more to life than PlayStation and cheap alcohol, because once you understand you can get out it’s not that difficult. At some point though people are just a lost cause and think a good life is owed to them rather than achieved. I’ve never once felt threatened or intimidated in the place I live now (Berlin), yet stepping foot onto a council estate in England is sometimes like being in a war zone

[@buggerlugz6753]

Medical experiments would be too good for them.

[@dirtydan2721]

@@munchymcmouthington298 As someone who has had the displeasure of living with problem kids I find that this is not the case as often as people think. It's the genes and mental illness put together with them being told that they're powerless and disenfranchised, they are all victims of being victims and if they stopped whining for a day the crime rate would be cut in half.

[@munchymcmouthington298]

​@@dirtydan2721 I've lived in the proximity of problem kids. Those kids don't stand a chance. in my case, they were of a neighbouring single mum who only knew how to shout and threaten her children while she regularly took drugs and idled about. The little boy was 6 and couldn't read. already doing stuff like keying people's cars and getting in scraps. You think telling him to stop whining would fix that? all his mum ever did was tell him to stop whining and look where that's got him. When you're raised to not see the wood for the trees it takes something extraordinary to break the cycle. It isn't enough to hope on teachers. They don't have 'em in their care for long enough in the week (and even less so during the pandemic). So... yeah. Would that it wasn't so, but this is what a functioning welfare state is supposed to be about; elevating people out of the shittiness. And, to be frank, consider how many many people lived 150 years ago and ask yourself if such measures are really the burden all the billionaire-owned right wing papers would have you think... Britain cuts its nose off to spite its own face these days.

[@gisar.6539]

The Barbican is proof that if you take care of estates - they can be very prosperous places. It was built to house the financial workers who worked in the City of London and London's financial district. Even though the estate has more investment and money put into it, it goes to show that it's an attitude thing at the end of the day

[@jonathanmc-smith7284]

I'm from Huyton and seeing this makes me sick. What are they doing destroying new houses. What happened to teaching respect 😡😡

[@gitzersmitzer4516]

They are probably not local people

[@AAger96]

@@gitzersmitzer4516 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what you saying sausage it must of been the browns? Clearly never been to huyton it’s 99% white hahahahaha

[@gitzersmitzer4516]

@@AAger96 the rest of the country most certainly is

[@gitzersmitzer4516]

@@AAger96 if its that white I'll move there myself 😂😉

[@AAger96]

@@gitzersmitzer4516 you just sound like your typical Blackpool alcoholic bum without teeth who blames everybody else for your kids not wanting to be around you

[@pdtech4524]

Such a shame as the houses look really nice and fairly modern looking! At the end of the day I'll bet it's only a couple of the families causing all the trouble and bringing the area down. The police and local council are to blame as well, there should be more emphasis on reducing anti social behaviour, most times they'll put such families together in a small area, as they have here, it localises the problem in a small area but it's not fair on the residents that don't want to live like that. That's why a lot have moved out and their homes are boarded up

[@bennyboy2079]

Yeh I agree need to nip it in the bud as soon as anything starts people let things escalate because they don't think its serious...but it is!

[@JimboJammy]

Yes I suspect a lot of the boarded houses are from people who have cut their losses and just left the area without selling their home because they just need to escape. Its really sad for good honest folk who get no support or help from authorities.

[@pdtech4524]

@@JimboJammy That happened to me, I bought a cheaper house in a fairly quiet, leafy, blossom tree lined cottages. I spent a couple of years doing it up, with a new kitchen new bathroom. Replastered most of the walls, new doors, redecorated top to bottom, even repainted the stonework outside. Put all new guttering and part double glazing, new carpets and flooring throughout. Over the years all the decent people moved or passed away. The houses got bought up in the buy to let frenzy,, consequently those who owned and lived there for years were replaced by renters who didn't care and moved on after a few months The area quickly went downhill, kids roamed the streets in feral packs, vandalising the area, smashing windows, more decent people left. Even the council cut down the blossom trees! By this time having my windows smashed was a regular thing, Christmas eve being the worst one, just as I'm about to go out to a family party my living room window comes crashing in! Kids would climb through open windows downstairs, smash my gate in, pull my fence down etc Calling the police was futile, they did nothing! One even asked me why I stayed there? Why, because my house was half paid for and I had worked hard making it my home, why should I move? Why can't they deal with the problem? In the end I came to the conclusion, that was the answer, move out, it was a huge weight off my shoulders. I could finally sleep at night and go out without worrying about my house getting smashed up!

[@queenpig]

I have no doubt, where I used to live there a few families well their kids made my families live a living hell. The police and the council did nothing to help the families of the kids were very unapproachable . Our house burgled many times by the same people, we knew who they were but still couldn't prove it. We were terrorized day in day out. talking about is giving me awful flash backs. One of the worst times of my life.

[@reverendbluejeans1748]

In Rio Cidade de Deus houses like that wouldn't go to waste. In this neighbourhood I feel it is more random crime than drug family.

[@stevesmith7530]

Imagine estates of dozens of streets, not just one street like this is. That would be huge swathes of east Leeds in the 90s. Halton Moor, Gipton, Osmondthorpe, Seacroft. East End Park. I am not going to say they were tough estates, but even the sewer rats walked round in pairs and carried weapons. The only people who won were the suppliers of steel window and door grilles for those who could afford them. The neighbourhood watch was different to what you might expect, your neighbours watched for you going out so they could break in, I had a front door & frame completely destroyed, the intruders took a cheap kitchen clock and half a jar of coffee. In the evenings the local sport was seeing how many police vehicles could be rammed with the stolen Astra before torching it in the bordering woods.

[@m4_thednblab397]

I don’t know if this is intended to be comical but you’re a comedian Steve

[@brumside3918]

The UK's Most Deadly Gang War Documentary kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmqniJV7hc59aNk

[@GhostvaperYT]

yep 100% true mate i live in Bradford it's okish. Only because we own our own homes in this street but I lived 1/2 mile away on the local council estate a few years back and OMG crime, mess in he streets, couldn't go on holiday or to town for fear of being burgled while out i got cctv which actually made me more of a target as thye thugs hated that i had cctv made them vervous even tho i told them its for me i will NOT give any footage to police unless my stuff gets damaged.

[@nacekozo]

I remember that, it was pretty grim. Even when they had demolished most of it, you'd still have one or two houses hanging in there with people living in them, surrounded by rubble.

[@mydogeatspuke]

Sounds just like the estate in Bradford I grew up on, where there was always a bus on fire in the middle of a field, and a different one I ended up briefly living on as an adult. The kids are maybe even more terrifying than the adults, because when they get together in a gang of 20 and smash your car and house up, the police say they're just kids and ask what you want them to do about it. They won't even go into some of the estates now. Taxis, deliveries, even buses completely avoid the areas because it's like a war zone whenever they see someone who doesn't belong.

[@redskunk9825]

Good to see someone highlighting the more affluent areas of Liverpool for a change. Thank you G2E Media

[@greg8022]

Looked like the infrastructure and houses may have been ok when they were build but this is why you don't put pigs in a palace x

[@patriciaevans2604]

RUDE!!

[@martinjay3570]

@@patriciaevans2604 No it's disrespectful to pigs.

[@lemsip207]

Exactly. They literally live like pigs.

[@keithglaysher9201]

Never is the fault of the buildings or houses, why do councils heap all the trouble together in one place, there's a case here for deportation to some remote island! Take them to the Northern Territories in Australia infested with salty crocodiles 100 deg.+ temperatures where they could develop their characters and survival skills with no drugs a great social experiment!

[@tommccabe8441]

They'd end up robbing the boxing gloves of a kangaroo

[@daniellebcooper7160]

Thanks, but theres enough DIK HEDS here already.

[@tommccabe8441]

You talking about the government

[@daniellebcooper7160]

@@tommccabe8441 was referring to you sending undesirables down to us..again. But it goes for the government as well i suppose.

[@garnhamr]

You could call me Hitler i suppose but why cant these scum lords be sentenced to death? clearly incapable of being part of a civilised society...

[@billw7000]

I had a girlfriend who had fled Venezuela because of an attempted kidnapping. She has lived in a _really_ dangerous dysfunctional society. In the UK she lived near Lewisham. After a few months there she said there isn't anything wrong with the area it is the people who live there who cause the problems. Wise words that most town planners, police and councillors are too stupid or too PC to listen to.

[@iansomers376]

Visited Liverpool once six years ago to take my late younger brothers ashes to be cast over Anfield. My oh my what a city. I was led to believe Liverpool was the friendly city but my wife and I found terrible hostility in people walking about the city centre. I was shocked the territorial suburbs on the way to the stadium. My brother was a passionate distant Liverpool FC fan. I think he would have been disgusted at himself for supporting a team that has this sort of society surrounding it. Never want to go there again. This housing estate is like a war zone. This isn’t civilised, it’s an urban jungle.

[@kcapkcans]

It's rough around the edges, but as an American who has covered quite a bit of ground on foot throughout Liverpool I've never gotten any hostility whatsoever... Except a couple Arsenal fans on the bus!

[@umah6890]

As a Londoner? I find scousers are kind and friendly. I never experienced any hostility in Liverpool. Even in Kensington area.

[@usernextuser5385]

The council are too slow dealing with problem tenants. They should have a one year trial period before giving full tenancy and be able to evict tenants on one months notice if they are causing trouble. And do regular checks on the tenants in that time. A friend in Dublin, Ireland , got an apartment from a housing association and she had regular checks in the early days of her tenancy. That's the kind of thing that works. I think the biggest problem with council estates anywhere is the council are not willing to put the effort in. It's a job for life, so why should they care, they still get paid.

[@davecollins9075]

The problem with you lad is that you talk sense and seem a nice fellow. So you and your ideas are going nowhere.

[@lemsip207]

They have them where I live but all a problem tenant does is keep their head down for a year and then all hell lets loose as they know how to play the long game. Had it been introduced years before we could have got rid of a problem tenant but knowing him it would simply have resulted in delaying his bad behaviour. I heard through the grapevine after he moved out that he had gypsy or Irish traveller blood in him. Even when they settle they don't change and even when they marry out their children take after them not their spouse. Somebody could be one quarter Irish traveller but they might as well be full traveller by the way they behave.

[@habu179]

Councils are pure wankers......spineless on gold plated salaries, I despise them.

[@sportsglobal9527]

@@lemsip207 the problem is what happens when the council do eventually evict they simply put them onto another estate and the problems start all over again.

[@lemsip207]

@@sportsglobal9527 They get put into a worst estate where there are already problems.

[@dickdastardly635]

You said it all in one sentence " New families moved in" . Houses are bricks and mortar, in the words of the Lee Marvin song. " Mud can make you prisoner, but only people make you cry ".

[@davidgladwin4954]

Primrose hill is beautiful&the residents More happy benefits

[@junglie]

Wandering star...first record i bought.

[@fastpropertypartners]

I was offered 4 houses from a bridging finance company on Primrose court, they were practically giving them to me, I was like what's the catch? I then went to the street and viewed the houses, very very rough area and was told a lot of travellers had moved on to the street. Needless to say, I ran mile from these properties- It could have been financial ruin for me if I had...

[@croikeymatesthrowashrimpon8130]

4 houses? id have taken that £20 gamble, worst case you lose £20

[@uttaradit2]

always due dilligence

[@garethhancock8525]

You really ran a whole mile? Then what? Just starting walking after that?

[@MrJmawiseman]

Shame some people are so ungrateful. Used to know a sparky who did work on new build housing association stuff like these and the tradesmen were always back in a couple of years to replace wrecked filthy kitchens etc. The tenants probably plead poverty but can still afford cigarettes, sky TV and multi packs of lager...

[@LIVERPOOLandFARBEYONDNEWS]

The mad thing is that this is brand new housing that has already evolved into a slum. Giving the right type of negative circumstances this still should not happen for at least 15 years. Not sure if there is any other brand new slums in this country.

[@lindahughes4409]

The vans says it all

[@tonyrobinson362]

@Kevin Young They should be sent to camps with the slogan, Work sets you free?

[@paulholland5270]

Early 2000s 20 years old at most.

[@susanleatherbarrow2495]

Look like nice houses too. Labour Party changed rules years ago so ' people in most need' were housed ahead of anyone else. I used to go to school with kids who lived on council estates and their mums and dads were nurses, ambulance drivers, typists, shop workers, postmen etc. Now, you would n't stand a chance of getting a house if you are employed.

[@JohnSmith-ug7ov]

New laws need to be brought in. Anyone doing any vandalism or threatening behavior, need to be jailed for 5-6 years. I know prison doesn't work, but it would keep the scum off the street for longer.

[@JohnSmith-ug7ov]

And when they come out and reoffend, then jail them for 10 years.

[@studas2011]

The whole country is going to get worse and worse, there is no way back now short of a war.

[@lancethrust9488]

BLAME THE GOVERNMENT HOUSING ASSOCIATIONS THERE BUYING UP ALL THE HOUSES AND MOVING SCUMBAGS INTO THEM

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

All yobbos should be vaxxzinated to the gills.

[@keithglaysher9201]

Nice thought but the police are scared of them stuffing human rights in their faces, they would bully people for not wearing a face nappy, they are gutless when it comes to dealing with travelers.

[@DanA-fk6tl]

Stopping a downward spiral is easier said than done. In the 80s in Moss Side they built a brewery and prioritised jobs for local residents. The idea was that more jobs and more money into the local community would improve things all round (sounds reasonable). Only problem was, once people had a decent wage, first thing they did was move out to somewhere nicer. So basically all the grafters left. They were then replaced by more problem families. End result, the estate got worse not better. Downward spirals are self perpetuating.

[@ruthbashford3176]

The houses are lovely and those detached houses would probably cost nearly a million in some parts of London. What sort of people are living there?

[@johnmitchell2269]

Scousers

[@The.panthera.]

Subhuman creatures

[@marcusp905]

They all look good house's

[@jonahwale721]

Not people

[@mdx7460]

I live near, and have to drive past from time to time.. nope, it’s not like that everywhere. It’s unique to this area. Thing is, if you look at the start of the video you will notice him drive past nice houses. A brand new estate has not long been built, really nice actually. They are still in the process of building more. Then just up the street you come across this. It’s such a shame. You drive past and will more than likely see lads hanging round or running in and out of the street. My main issue is why are they allowed? Why is nobody stopping this? Do the police even care? The mind boggles.

[@recruitmentch]

6 years ago, I rented a beautiful flat on an estate that was barely 10 years old in Brimsdown, Enfield. The inside of the flat was immaculate, but the landlord naturally didn't mention anything about the irresponsible people living on the estate. The residents themselves were actively making things worse, and didn't care for the wellbeing of the place. Smoking in stairwells, allowing their children to draw on the walls, drop food all over the place, breaking the security doors, stealing the bins, not putting their rubbish into the big bins, grown men sitting on stairs and leaving behind sunflower seed shells all over the stairwells! One morning I woke up to two residents sleeping in the electricity meter room right outside my door, as they'd lost their keys. After about a year, I basically had enough and moved out. The management company was always on hand to assist, but the residents were just the kind who had no care for neighbours, environment, or keeping the place remotely hospitable. I would never allow my parents to visit, as I just felt ashamed. The only time they came, I had to clean up the entrance to the building of chicken and chips dumped their by kids. When I went down with a bin bag to clean it up, the crap parents were having a go at me for doing it. Aw we will do it - you're trying to show up our kids blah blah.

[@ianmangham4570]

I hear ya Roz, its the same all over England, i call them GENERATION SCUMBAG

[@Pip.Squeak.]

Sun flowers seeds means they were Chinese or something

[@ianmangham4570]

@@Pip.Squeak. lmmfao, how dumb are you, half the middle east eats sunflower seeds /Iranians Iraqis and then and then some, Chinese folk like their food still moving.

[@Pip.Squeak.]

@@ianmangham4570 good for you crack on

[@ianmangham4570]

@@Pip.Squeak. Forget about it

[@mallyredfearn6834]

I'm going back about twenty years now, but that place you've just visited, on the face of it, seems nothing to a place (now demolished) in Leeds. Similar set-up, a large square type road. Nearly all houses and flats boarded up. Cars burnt out everywhere. Gangs actually armed with baseball bats patrolled the streets. Grass wrote on one house. Gangs faced each other off but all got together one day for a funeral. I was working at a house where 3 men all lived together for extra security and they had bars on all the windows and doors.

[@istriver.]

Damn creepy

[@clairedarkins2079]

Those large detached houses are lovely. I would love one now!! Can’t believe it’s being left to rot

[@jonathanrussell594]

I grew up in a place called Holton Moor in Leeds in the late 80's and all the 90''s. I've since joined the Army and now live happily in Crawley. The estate (Google map it) was poorly (or facetiously) designed. There was one way on and one way off. Police most of the time NEVER came to patrol. They only came if called or on a call. If they came, it was in number. The fire brigade lost 3 engines while i lived there. They were pelted with bricks as set on fire while on a call. I remember 2 were lost putting our a stolen car. And the other was a house fire. 70% of the estate was boarded up or derelict. There was a refit in the late 90's when I was there. As you can imagine.. most of the equipment was stolen and the workers refused to work there sometimes. Joyriding was a nightly occurrence for almost a decade.. the streets were almost like a race track littered with burnt-out cars. My school bus almost had to be abandoned and recovered ever time it dropped us off. It had an emergency stop button on the back of the bus.. again you can imagine. The entire Estate is built on a 10 degree hill west to east. Halton Moor Road was the road leading to the estate and ran on the other side of a field.. you could see emergency service vehicles coming a mile away and there was only one way off and on. Law enforcement never stood a chance. I'll be honest and thankful for the place it taught me a lot. 🤔

[@CCCoNeTiMe]

Crawley? What a fucking shithole that place is.

[@taylormade2826]

I grew up on a estate about 4 miles from Liverpool City center and it was exactly as you described late 90s early 2000s absolutely littered with smack heads

[@enochpowel3030]

Those properties look relatively new. It's a damn shame.

[@markcaldwell778]

Loads more currently being built not far away. They're already robbing everything not nailed down.

[@SchoolOfScienceTV]

They were built in 2006

[@markcaldwell778]

@@SchoolOfScienceTV A few more are currently being in the process of development.

[@mxbx307]

@@SchoolOfScienceTV That's nothing in the lifespan of a house, especially in those days when newbuilds were higher quality than today's junk. Family friend of mine lives in a similar property in another city, built early 2003 and it's great. They moved in circa 2009 and even then it was still very affordable. Nowadays newbuilds are unacceptable shite and cost a fortune.

[@Busybee65]

The old Bernard Manning joke comes to mind " There is so many boarded up houses in Liverpool, the window cleaners use sanders "

[@bradley-jamesnorris4499]

Sounded threatening in the end “I WILL catch you on the next one” lol. Good video mate

[@50kk4]

3:09 love the "house fire" themed air conditioning solution, looks realistic enough. Especially the gray plates. Such a nice touch.

[@JimboJammy]

I'm shocked! It looks like one of the many newer estates that have been built near me! But the estates near me, people are desperate to get into and everything is well looked after! Large detatched houses with their own parking, those houses are bigger and newer than my own house yet they have all been trashed! Unbelievable!

[@User-3O3]

Shame, really. Those houses look rather nice and are obviously fairly new builds.

[@nate8867]

How could there possibly be violent crime if there’s no guns on the streets😯😯😯

[@shakeybeatz]

Being someone that is in desperate need of a home, this depresses me. ☹️

[@badensnaxx5804]

I was brought up not far from this area, on another estate that was then known as Cantril Farm. It produced Craig Charles from red dwarf, Paul Rutherford of Frankie goes to Hollywood, both good friends. It also produced the first millionaire game developer, he was eighteen, an Olympic bronze medal winning boxer, too. Everyone's parents had jobs, there was Cammel Laird, Ogdens, Hygena, Meccano, Courtaulds, Tysons, Littlewoods, Ford, Vauxhall, GPO. If you weren't academic, there were apprenticeships to be had & none of my friends were unemployed. What happened? Thatcher & her neo Liberal politics happened & Liverpool was made to suffer because the city opposed her. Labour haven't helped, they abandoned the working class & embraced identity politics. White working class, boys & men have become the most disadvantaged class in the UK & they have been for some time. Problems like this estate will not go away until underlying causes are dealt with, starting with education & jobs.

[@kevinbaird7277]

You sir, have summed in a few well chosen lines an explanation of broken Britain which this little peach of an estate is part there of, I live in Scotland, same up here, Thatcher laid waste to vast swathes of industry, the present SNP as much good as a chocolate microwave plate, yep, we're screwed, drug deaths worst in the industrial world, society crumbling, unisex public toilets, where is this country headed, me thinks down.

[@ql8182]

He shuda went canny farm instead 🔫

[@aces-ww8zl]

Totally agree, the North has been treated terribly by both the Tories and Labour, I've seen it myself coming from northern Manchester.

[@Thetavern09]

Good old Canny Farm

[@fedup8347]

Oh yeah Stoneycroft, it js still rough there but not as bad as the original days as cantril farm

[@ianinkster2261]

It must be dangerous - just listen to that opening sound.

[@Grimnir_x]

This video sums up a huge problem in the UK.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

What a shame that a minority of people fail to take a pride in themselves, their neighbourhood or their Community. It could be really nice living there. As it’s not a through road kids could safely enjoy that space. The homes look like they could be really nice. It’s not too cramped either.

[@emilymorton6510]

That's what I was thinking, "what a shame".

[@MarkSmith-er7fe]

community doest exist

[@bt3743]

@Hash Lee cause the outside you built was for cars and not people

[@Speedkam]

Its just as councils fault. Majority of people want to leave normally, but failures of council to enforce rules brings the whole area down. I leave in a similar place, but in sheffield.

[@limpet7r63]

Agreed. These are really nice houses. To be honest, if they were looked after, it would look like a private road. Absolutely tragic to see this.

[@zanecameron32]

It actually looks like nice houses, the sort of area you would like and look after, times are hard but you just make it harder for yourself and everyone else by not appreciating your place of residence

[@Matt_10203]

Yeah, houses look relatively new and pretty nice. Just shows the people make the neighbourhood, not the houses.

[@hayd7371]

Now explore the no-go zones in Bradford, Rochdale, Telford, Leeds, Birmingham, Tower hamlets...

[@davidprice5678]

Where you actually will end up being killed

[@Matt19matt19]

From what I remember didn't the company that built them go bust so they weren't finished and the road is classed as unadopted so the council didn't put in things like lights. So that's why a lot of it is abandoned and boarded up. Then has been targeted by vandals because they see it as abandoned.

[@paulone805]

A man with sense finally..

[@richdorak1547]

You are mad !!!!! All those dead end streets are perfect traps that tell the residents you're an outsider.

[@starofdavid9919]

Real shame that there is young families in need of homes yet they house the scum of society in beautiful houses like these.

[@Lewis_Treff97]

It's getting harder for people like me to move into the property ladder but yet there's people who are given a nice place to live and ruin it

[@jaytoppo1670]

I know that place, I'm down the road, still in Huyton, that area is quite hostile, kids running around all hours, I wouldn't say it's a no go though... I go through there as a through road now and again, despite the dilapidation there are far worse places then this....

[@musheopeaus4125]

This is the future of UK unless we start to 'deal ' with the many issues

[@garethh6962]

The issue is political correctness they break there tenancy agreement put them on the streets to hell with them and there families.

[@musheopeaus4125]

Eh?

[@jacquelineithell307]

What is heartbreaking , 💔 is that there are some decent hardworking families live there and have to put up with the shit ,

[@billgates-qi9st]

i agree with kookytoots writing below. These houses are nice with lots of space. I do not understand how people think it's ok to shit on your own doorstep and those of your neighbours. Eviction from the estate of the "problem" families would solve the problem but what to do with these delinquents? Work camps, re-education or rather education since they had none to start with. How about more radical ideas like making them live in a really poor country and see how even the poorest of the poor can be decent kind and caring human beings.

[@ChrisM-lb8xw]

In 30 years when streets will be overrun with “homeless” living in tents and sitting on an “income support” a neighbourhood like this one will be considered “nice” 🙃

[@jaysimpson6857]

Would have been useful to get a glimpse of the oxygen thief that shouted ‘oi’. Imagine the thought processes and the morals of someone like that, low level intelligence and certifiable no doubt.

[@Matt463634]

and free to breed!

[@KillerDiaguR]

Might have been a concerned citizen letting the driver know he had a light out

[@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool]

Anyone who shouts Oi in the street these days is most likely dodge. Not classy.

[@jaysimpson6857]

@Hash Lee I live in a close with the same size and design houses, only difference being all of us have windows, jobs and understand hygiene. Are you really that sensitive to think I’m getting heated about it? Most people viewing this video and reading my comment will separate themselves from the people who live in this close the same way they distance themselves from pigs rolling in muck, actually pigs are much less of a threat than the specimens that live here, it says a lot about you since you seem to support the kind of filth that has no problems with tearing down its surroundings. You sound like one of those far left nut jobs who’s severely in need of a good belt.

[@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool]

@@jaysimpson6857 Same here. We used to shout oi to our mates when we were kids, but we all grew out of it. It's mostly used by scallywags these days.

[@TheMuddatrucker]

You might have seen large groups of unruly teens where you live every so often, maybe 10 or more in a group. In Liverpool it’s not uncommon to see a group of 50+ all out together causing shit for anyone and everyone. You don’t realise what a group that size looks or feels like until you come face to face with!

[@ceasarcruz8312]

one NYE we rolled 100 deep in our neighborhood, and it was a mess...

[@TheMuddatrucker]

@@ceasarcruz8312 I totally believe it

[@threestans9096]

y’all need a sterile feral program.

[@Mayaman67]

There are a couple of rough estates in my town. A few of the undesirable families were moved on sent to different places around the town. The problem is that they trashed other areas. Maybe better to contain them and let them screw each other over. They must be really dumb. destroying their own area like that.

[@yensabi]

My auntie lives on that estate and I can tell you that most of the problems there where caused by gypo's and the council and bizzies did nothing to stop it , when first built that was a really nice place to live , long gone are those days..... 👍

[@magooch3288]

Proper shame that, council should go in their and sort it out, just kick the bad apples out and put decent folk in their

[@oh2887]

Thats awful and a real pity as the houses are nice modern units.

[@SohailAHMED-rw5en]

Ur auntie was my bird

[@danj87lfc]

are council and local paper are scared to offend gypsys so does make sense

[@cptskellern]

@@SohailAHMED-rw5en Ya mean his uncle.

[@willsmith39]

I've never been to Liverpool let alone this estate, but I did live in Beirut for 3 years and it was awesome so not sure if that's what the Daily Mail meant with its comparison. One thing I will add is the quality of these houses is something people throughout SE Asia, most of Indian Subcontinent and Africa etc could only dream of so it's pretty depressing to see them burned out and vandalised by the people literally given them. People in Britain don't know they're born I swear.

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

Those people you mentioned will be taking those houses before 2030, mark my words.

[@The.panthera.]

Makes a change from bell air then 🤣

[@willsmith39]

@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Well if they do then I'm sure they'll be much more productive citizens than the feral previous inhabitants.

[@foreignofficeclub5815]

The daily fail are racist shit stirrers. I have been to Beirut and the people are amazing there.

[@susanleatherbarrow2495]

@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 probably be an improvement!!!

[@markharris1223]

Eviction holds no terrors for them. They know that they can demand to be accommodated in the next authority along.

[@swagger105]

These houses could easily be turned round and given to decent families.

[@greamewilson1960]

What a shame house's looks quite modern it's not the estate that's trouble it's the people that lived they

[@kieranstravels]

Primrose estate is just incredibly depressing. I pass nearby on my way to education multiple times a week, and that’s literally the only word I can use to describe it. I genuinely question how it managed to get that way, it looks so new, so nice, and almost identical to a similar estate being built closer to home. You can’t help but think “what went wrong”.

[@torinjones3221]

Well its inhabited by degenerates so what do you expect?

[@slapmyfunkybass]

I agree, I didn’t know anything about this place until the video. It’s a shame, it could actually be a very nice area, the houses themselves look pretty new. It looks a small area, if only enough people could come together they could turn it round, plus increasing the price of their property. You have to put it down to sheer stupidity.

[@jockmackay9582]

Scouse people

[@kieranstravels]

@@slapmyfunkybass mhm, definitely

[@darrenhuntington7319]

Blame the council or housing associations for putting bad families in there. I'm sure they have bad rep.

[@jamesmoore3624]

Sometimes these areas can be torn apart by just 1 individual who brings trouble to the area. We had a man named "jonty hall" in our area who was a hardened criminal and feared in the city I'm from, never worked a day in his life and dedicated his life to being a criminal, he used to attract criminals like a pack of hyeenas to his house and he would send them round to rob peoples houses and do nasty things to people. Legit people used to lock their doors and shut their blinds when he entered the street. The amount of trouble he used to bring to our area was unbelievable, I managed to get close and befriend him because he liked one of my family members and the stories he told me was disgusting, even stabbed his "best friend" because he wouldn't clean up after his dogs. Anyways he got murdered in the end when his "crew" turned against him and ever since nobody has talked about him and it's like a rain cloud has been lifted after many decades of pain and misery, we don't get as much crime anymore and the place is in better condition.

[@Natta44]

oh my god!!

[@tropicalpalmtree]

The houses look really decent architecturally. Definitely not the type you would expect to find in this condition.

[@franceskronenwett3539]

I lived in a council house as a small child in the late fifties. Nobody had much money then and hardly anyone owned a car. I remember the street being a pleasant place to live and the place was full of kids. All the families were friendly decent people who kept their houses and garden clean and neat. A few years later my parents bought their own house and we moved to a better area, but I still have pleasant memories of this street full of council houses.

[@williamlong7188]

What when wrong in this area which seems to be a relatively new housing estate? You would think people would be glad to get housing like that they would love and respect the area they are in. Pathetic how people have to live worse than animals and be so uncivilised to go on the way they did. There’s a lot of people who would queue up for modern housing like this. Those people who live here don’t deserve housing.

[@yesnomaybe955]

Gypsies moved in and trashed the place

[@claudia6179]

I am absolutely shocked to see that this country is allowing such things to happen. These people should be behind bars before they cause more harm to the society. This would not happen in Eastern Europe - they would get beat up by a football gang/the mafia and never mess around again, or would be in jail.

[@zielinskigr]

ale pierdolisz, chyba nie byłaś nigdzie poza własną dupą w tej wshcodniej europie XD

[@DaveDexterMusic]

that doesn't sound much better

[@claudia6179]

@D B are you from Eastern Europe? Cause I am. And I did not say that this does not happen, I am saying this gets dealt with a lot more effectively.

[@MartinvonBargen]

I grew up in Huyton and Hillside had a mad reputation even back in the 80s. Woolfall Heath was sketchy too, as were Ackers Hall and a few more places around Dovecot. Not too far from the Doms where I did my first teaching practice.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

Apparently, this is where the Google Earth van was last seen 8-))...

[@JAY1892]

😂

[@bareminimumbrother3980]

The first thing that strikes me is the lack of cars in the street.

[@adamdean988]

Most probably all been stolen

[@geoffdundee]

Bareminimumbrother ....they park them in the next street along when they have no MOT or insurance,etc..........or some are out robbing or tarmacking driveways during daylight.

[@gary_248]

Maybe all the residents are out working…

[@lokiop345]

I'm from Liverpool... and all I can say is that people make places. Young kids are responsible for this. Where are the parents? Not good enough. I've been to Africa where there is higher poverty, but like I say, people make places. If you want to live in shit then make it shit. It doesn't make you Hard. Just makes you shit. The kids are responsible and they are getting away with it. National Service is the answer. Discipline

[@cw2002]

Weird that the houses all actually look really nice. Big semi/detached houses all treated like shit. Shame, they go for half a million down south!!

[@MrGraemeb2022]

The local authority would have better advised to build two or three small caravan sites for travellers. There aren't enough traveller sites and It's no good putting travellers in houses. It's a 'culture' thing. And only put families in these new places who have a history of paying their rent and behaving themselves.

[@karenmbbaxter]

Caravan sites for travellers need to be put on the edge of towns and not in the middle of towns.....Why demolish perfectly good homes because travellers can't take care of them.......New immigrants would take better care of these homes.

[@MrGraemeb2022]

@@karenmbbaxter I agree.Certainly no need to demolish these houses. But greater care with regard to who is allocated these homes might be advisable.Whether it's fair to prioritize 'asylum seekers' rather than established British citizens who may have been on waiting lists for many years is debatable.

[@susanleatherbarrow2495]

What good ideas!! Never bloody happen though!

[@paulone805]

True

[@mrmikeh-nv7cq]

One vision housing in Sefton are notorious for destroying once nice pleasant neighborhoods. They cram in as many unruly families into areas that they can, all with loads of scummy kids and their parents have no clue how to bring them up. It takes one problem family to bring a neighborhood down. We have 9 of them. It doesn't take a genius to work out that that's a recipe for disaster. I absolutely detest them!!!!👎

[@jaytoppo1670]

those houses will be filled with the replacements in no time, their arrivals are increasing by the thousands now and they're going to spread everywhere. I'm noticing the change already.

[@fabiotabaton314]

Aye right....!!!

[@guvviyulg4821]

Hope so, they might clean the place up...

[@theselector4733]

A few years ago I had the pleasure of visiting England. We travelled around a bit and visited several cities, Liverpool was one of my favourites. But late at night once in the city centre I had to use wifi for my laptop and hopped into a Maccas. There was just myself, a couple of staff and a 'gang' of 3 lads and a girl. They were young, probably late teens, and were eyeing my laptop, whispering and gesturing. After a while I got up and left and they followed me for a couple of blocks but must've thought better of it and took off. A couple of weeks later we went up to Manchester and decided to pay a visit to Noel and Liam Gallagher's childhood home in Burnage. I was led to believe that this was a rough and tough area full of rundown Housing Estates, but when I arrived was pleasantly surprised at how nice it looked. Very clean and well kept. Actually the houses were beautiful, most had nice gardens and some with new or late model cars parked in the driveways. It was completely different to what I had imagined. I commented this with a couple of locals and they said it was very different in the 70's and 80's.

[@neillynch_ecocidologist]

To be privileged, eh!

[@pogman15]

wow you visited two of the worst places, birmingham is just as bad as these. absolute dumps. i recommend visiting the east, norwich is x100 nicer than any of those places, you're safe even on the 'worst street' there. there are morons everywhere but liverpool, manchester and birmingham are a disgrace.

[@x_____________]

yeah, teenagers are biggest degenerates for the most part.

[@ytsucksnowwiththisrealname1096]

That first story isn't really a story is it.

[@theselector4733]

@@ytsucksnowwiththisrealname1096 Are you saying it didn't happen or that it's a crap story?

[@misfit2022]

I thought the houses looked nice. Shame about the damage. Sometimes places get reputations and they stick I used to walk through Moss Side when it was violent as cut 20 mins off my journey. I think someone shouting oi was about the height of any trouble I saw though I did see the aftermath of a few od’s in Alexandra Park and definitely got a few strange looks from some of the geezers hanging around but I don’t let that worry me. I walked around London in the middle of the night so a long walk in the early evening ain’t gonna bother me. I find even in so called “rough” areas if you don’t bother anyone they won’t bother you. I used to walk through Tower Hamlets another supposed no go area and it was fine. I think areas are only no go if people make them so.

[@gee3883]

You should have knocked on a few doors to see if anyone needed the drive done.

[@ilt1993]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. there was only a few cars in that road