Exploring The Mystery of Cyberpunk's Secret Netrunner

This Netrunners name crops up several times throughout Cyberpunk 2077. But who is B@d really? And what do they want?
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:36 Catch a Tygers Toe
02:15 Watcher and B@D
05:07 Dredged Up
06:25 Flying Drugs
09:43 B@d's Bunker
12:35 Theories
19:40 Final Theory
23:04 Conclusion

[@rwithee]

Telling one group of scum where another group of scum are stealing something setting both groups up to fight each other isn't exactly picking one side, it's letting them eliminate each other.

[@SamBram]

Very true that!

[@EnclaveSgt]

It's more likely that one group would eliminate the other in my opinion. Not likely they'd both be completely wiped out

[@rwithee]

@@EnclaveSgt Sure, but it's still likely to weaken both.

[@TheNukedNacho]

Best case scenario, the two gangs wipe each other out. Mid case scenario, one group gets wiped out, the other is weakened. Worst case scenario, one group is wiped out, the other isn’t. Overall, seems like a net positive to me.

[@EnclaveSgt]

@@TheNukedNacho mid case scenario is most likely I think

[@eldibs]

B@d's concern for the people they hire is compassionate, but also smart. If the people you hire always end up dying on the jobs you provide, you will quickly run out of employees as your reputation tanks. On the other hand, if you tell them things like "Be careful, I don't want your death on my conscience," if they survive the job they will tell others that you don't sacrifice hirees on a whim and people will be more willing to work for you.

[@FoxBullet]

Human empathy and basic psychology at its finest

[@PSR_B]

@@FoxBullet In the great words of Starscream "Have you tried showing empathy? Its great in hiding your trues motives."

[@lordsathariel4384]

i think it also comes down to the net runner was a admirer and a young runner in terms of night city's players everyone else who bad is more business with like wraiths and such are just jobs you don't care if a contractor who is a monster gets killed and nether does the city but if you get a member of afterlife or the merc community killed people are more likely to hold a grudge with you about it and annoying someone like rogue or another fixer cus you got their best runner killed is how you get people looking for you and if bad isen't able to manually carry out jobs they probs can't fight a band of solo's coming to kill them ether

[@ezaf5989]

cringe

[@moonlitshrooms]

Sure, but people still show up at the VDBs doorsteps don't they?

[@felix2641]

B@D = Bad at dying Bartmoss is still alive

[@wormspeaker]

I support this theory.

[@albertsu3523]

Except you can find his body in a side quest

[@felix2641]

@@albertsu3523 I mean it like he managed to upload his mind into the net, like alt

[@GergelyGyurics]

@@albertsu3523 canonically his body died in the 2020s, but his mind survived on the net. He even sent an invite to Spider Murphy and they met in cyberspace. In 2077 lore he probably faked his death in 2020s and survived up until the contract on the fridge expired, but still had the same capability to escape to the net.

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

@@GergelyGyurics Wasnt he recovered via datadiscs by Murphy during the second raid on the Saka tower.

[@whiteowlmassacre4907]

The Michael Jackson theory is very compelling. I mean, he literally says it multiple times in one of his songs, even going as far as saying he's "really really B@D". My eyes are open.

[@SamBram]

You know it! He's B@d!

[@johnlawson3014]

….whose bad?!

[@linceaerian]

Dang.... I thought it was Billie Eilish cause she always says "I'm the b@d guy"! 😎😅

[@richardsanderson4291]

SHAMONE

[@essidus]

The thing I like most about CDPR's world building is that they really give you the feeling that you're dropping in the middle of other people's stories. I think maybe b@d is just that- another person's story, that we just get to nibble around the edges of.

[@freddymeisner]

Love the way you worded this

[@MegaMasterX]

Edgerunners was in production in tandem with Cyberpunk 2077, so its actually fairly plausible that Lucy could have been involved; CDPR has said a few times that they handed Trigger pre-production maps and locales so they could build out the backgrounds of the series.

[@KonkaBass]

If memory serves, in an interview the director Edgeunners said the show was in pre-production for 4 years, putting it well inside the pre release development of the game.

[@haku8135]

@@KonkaBass It's 100% possible that B@d actually came AFTER Lucy was created for the anime. Looking at it timeline wise. Edgerunners was announced officially in JUNE, and the game released that DECEMBER. So that's about 6 MONTHS where Lucy would be a finished character and the entire plotline of the show would be more or less done. The outline at the very least is finished and the devs would know what happens. 6 months, and what presence does B@d have in the game? A couple lines of text in a few places, which takes about 5 minutes to do. And one single mission with some text, and Regina doing a couple voice lines for the holo call. Yeah they could DEFINITELY have added that stuff in. Even if you assume they decided on it last minute, the hardest thing they'd have to do would be call up Alana Maria and ask her to record less than a paragraph of dialogue. Not exactly a labor intensive task. That's not to say Lucy IS B@d, we don't know who B@d is, but she's much higher up on the list.

[@justicebrown1077]

16:50 in the Bartmoss guide to the net source book, there is a program listed on either page 92 or 93 called "ESC". ESC, or Emergency Self-Construct, is supposed to be an altered version of Soulkiller, modified by Bartmoss to digitize the Netrunners psyche and put it into the net, as opposed to putting it into an engram and trapped. Its also 2 jokes in one, making the ESC abbreviation on the keyboard but also the changing the classic "Emergency Self Destruct" sequences in various works of scifi. Its highly theorized that Bartmoss tied ESC to his deadmans switch that also released RABIDs into the net. RABIDs destroying the net and all ICE wouldve allowed him unfettered access to the Net, and the RABIDs were described as taking the image as Bartmoss in the net, which wouldve acted as decoys for him to escape into the deeper parts of the net. All this being said, I think he's very much alive but I do not think he's B@D. The only other NetRunner I can think of that has this level of skill, is Spider Murphy. However, her Net alias is Black Widow, and shes not once seen in 2077 implying she may not be in NC or may be dead (last she was heard from was '25). Personally, I think B@D is likely a Ghost within the net. Yes, the Bunker is kinda damning to that concept but think about this: They couldnt do any of the "real" world work themselves. They're never seen, and always a step ahead. 2 different locations acted as smoke screens for them, to throw off their enemies. And their bunker doesnt seem to have a NetRunning chair/booth. They targetted Arasaka, Maelstrom, Wraithes, and Tyger claws. The gangs were just collateral I feel like, I think the real target was likely Arasaka the whole time. Makes sense as its the most powerful corp in NC, and it owns Soulkiller, and Mikoshi. A hub of other Ghosts. Honestly, her goals might align more with Alt than any other NetRunner

[@aaronjohnson1005]

I thought spider Murphy is seen in johnnys sequence tho? Helmet with red visor…

[@Aventurinexoxo]

​@aaronjohnson1005 well yea but that happen in 2023

[@annieworroll4373]

There are theories- backed up by a story from the TTRPG- that Alt Cunningham survived. Johnnies memories of those events are for sure questionable at best outside of the broadest strokes, there's a chance Alt wasn't truly ripped from her body, but copied, and then managed to escape sometime later while the copy was doing scary AI ghost things. If she wasn't interested in, or had trouble discreetly accessing, cosmetic surgery, entering the city could be quite dangerous for her. Going after Arasaka would 100% be on her todo list, some of the other actions attributed to B@d could have been diversionary attacks or side jobs she took to pay the bills or take other threats off the table(like setting Maelstrom and the Wraiths against each other to limit the danger to non assholes)

[@justicebrown1077]

IN CP RED, its talked about how during the arasaka heist, Smasher showed up and Spider Murphy felt like the threat he posed to the team was too great. if they died, Alt would be trapped in their mainframe. So Murph fractured Alts engram and scattered it across the net with the goal of recollecting her data and putting her back together one day. This would be why ALT in game looks vaguely like her, but not to the point of how Johnny looks like Johnny. What we know as Alt is an AI that uses her engram fragment, which it confirms itself. In CP RED theres a story (spoilers) that takes place in '45 in which we see a NetRunner who is in love with Johnny, named Angel. She even bares Alt's likeness. Personally, I think Murph was successful getting *most* of Alt back but there was one piece out of reach: Her ego. This could explain why Angel goes by a different name, but is also a lot more affectionate towards Johnny (she tracks down his preserved body in the hopes of saving him one day). ALT (AI ALT) wants to consume the ghosts of Mikoshi likely to gain more information, and processing speed to allow her be more effective, and will likely want to destroy the blackwall. We also know that *this* Alt is also setting up a place called Ghost World, a sort of Necropolis for Ghosts based out in Hong Kong. She either wants her own nation, to destroy (or "evolve") humanity, or both

[@SukerokuZ]

@@aaronjohnson1005 yes. She is Spider Murphy DaRial. 😆 Bartmoss's colleague, as qualified as he was, and who released Alt's construct from Mikoshi

[@syntaxusdogmata3333]

"Catch me if you can" is a phrase that existed long before the titular movie. I wouldn't be too quick to draw any parallels there.

[@SamBram]

Very true, I guess paired with a Mario reference too, I drew the conclusion they were both references

[@TehSymbiote]

Something about B@D makes me think it's a rouge AI. Mainly because of the lack of ability to do things physically. Panam can't be the only Nomad that is willing to go into the city to get things done.

[@stanimir4197]

If you scan random folks in the city, you'd notice plenty of Aldecaldos, so she ain't the only one.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@stanimir4197 The guys who try to assault Garry are Aldecados.

[@robertc.9503]

@@stanimir4197Also if you chose the Nomad lifepath, when you first enter The Afterlife you get a dialog option where V states that some of the biggest Nomad jobs were scored at the Afterlife.

[@sunnybunny3803]

Rogue AI*

[@khele2k]

Love these videos explaining the lore of Cyberpunk. Let's be honest, most of us don't closely read all the emails/texts/messages etc in this game (I'm lucky if I skim them) and we certainly miss pieces here and there. Your videos are always excellent, but this one is a huge help as we head closer to Phantom Liberty.

[@Nerdalgia]

The one person I thought it was is someone you actually didn't mention. We rescue a hacker (Iris Tanner) for Dakota caught by Raffen Shiv. I've always felt she's a prime candidate. She has the badlands connection and insists on working on her own specifically not for fixers.

[@SamBram]

Hmm... That could work tbf

[@eliaspanayi3465]

B@d used Regina for the first contract.

[@somdudewillson]

@@eliaspanayi3465 Hiring through a fixer and working for a fixer are two different things, tho.

[@shanearmstrong9861]

@@eliaspanayi3465 Fixers are largely territory based. B@d likely scoped Regina cause she's the main fixer in Watson and would control most of the job traffic in the area, and would also know who to hire local for the job. Doesn't mean that B@d doesn't live in the badlands or couldn't be Tanner.

[@LokiTheAnsuz]

Tanner is a techie, not a runner tho...

[@guzax729]

These videos always have me reading the convos now and I ended up noticing that basically every single little event has some backstory to it which is so damn cool even more so that lots of them have recurring characters and connected plot threads

[@robinmaner3455]

I’m only just now realizing how deep some of the lore in this game goes. I kinda took the shards for granted and never really explored the computers at all but seeing how much they crammed into the smallest parts of the game is really impressive. It’s also impressive to see you going through everything to piece stuff like this together!

[@botep5529]

I'm the same way. My attention span isn't what it used to be, but it also doesn't help that they put thousands of documents in the world 90 percent are pointless or uninteresting. I appreciate the world building they tried to do but I don't have time for that, I've got scavs to massacre

[@osric729]

Yeah that's the problem with too many flavor text notes... read your 20th "you got the thing?" "Ye" "cool-- oh no I'm dead" shards and you start ignoring them.

[@runespar]

Your CP77 videos are some of the best gaming content on the platform right now. Despite crappy KZbin policy, I'm so excited this channel has taken off and can't wait to see more!

[@angrykfcnoises1492]

Pls never try to reduce cyberpunk as cp

[@Vaan2K]

​@@angrykfcnoises1492What's wrong with CP? I'm curious.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

@@Vaan2K Guess it reminds him too much of Cheese Pizza.

[@JudyAlvarez2077]

@@Vaan2K maybe reminds him of the fashion brand?

[@hebertnicholas5466]

Absolutely agree with you 😊✌️

[@Weezlenut]

I noticed that Spider Murphy wasn't in your list. In the game she is shown getting on the ship just before Smasher kills Johnny and she is the one that kills Kei Arasaka the next day. Rogue is older than Spider and is still alive and very much kicking and since not much else in-game is said about her, Spider could very well be alive. She is also known for attacking Arasaka aside from working with Johnny and history with Militech. As far as Watcher, he's a fellow runner so it would make sense that she would care for him as maybe she sees potential in him and being 82 at this point might also explain the not being able to do it herself part. The shard in the bunker also references Mario Bros and a 2002 movie. Those are pop culture references most likely to not even be known to anyone who isn't as old as Spider would be. If she is still going after Arasaka then switching to the b@d moniker would make sense to not tip them off who is really coming after them. After all, Spider Murphy would be too well known where as someone named "b@d" wouldn't.

[@SamBram]

Goddamn you're right! I'm gonna dig into this and see if there's anything that proves she can't be. But if not, it's very much a possibility and maybe a likely one!

[@wormspeaker]

I don't know about Spider Murphy being B@D. Spider has a very unique way of talking and none of that comes through in B@D's communications. Spider prefers literary quotes instead of pop culture references.

[@egor102]

I was suspecting r3no since she sounds alot like spider when you talk to her.

[@Meda.2077]

​@@wormspeakerMaybe it's Rogue the whole time?

[@wormspeaker]

@@Meda.2077 Rogue isn't a netrunner. So if she was the person behind the persona of B@D then there wouldn't be some novice netrunner fanboying over virtually meeting B@D.

[@NEWahn]

I truly hate to be the one to point this out, because I also want Lucy to have the closest thing she can to a happy ending...but in that ending scene, you can hear on the shuttle that she's taking the one-day tour that David talked about earlier in the show. That's likely all she could afford with the savings he willed to her.

[@kingkuska]

Oh shit you're the first person I heard say this, that's crazy. So she's probably still in Night City

[@morbidgull8922]

I thought the dream was to only walk on the moon not a "one day trip" I don't actually remember that phrase at all, ill have to re watch. I know what it is you are prob thinking of the scene where david see the tickets and mentions they are cheap, but lucy says its for a "one way trip" not a "one day trip".

[@NEWahn]

No, on the shuttle itself, you can hear a robotic tour guide voice talking. The trip was only for one day.@@morbidgull8922

[@0zWiz]

She could always getaway. You get it... part of the lyrics for the song. 😭 EDIT: I changed my mind Lucy most likely did return to Earth/Night City.... the mural for David says something along the lines: you didn't take me to the moon but you were there with me

[@SivaExperiment]

*one way

[@gizmo104drives7]

Thanks again sam... i must have watched all your cyberpunk content multiple times by now. Your content is so original and the background work you must have done for all of the topics must be eye watering

[@Moricant]

I tend to agree with the final theory as making everything tie into legacy characters just feels a bit boring. Night City is full of people trying to make as big a name for themselves as edgerunners as they can before their luck runs out. B@D is probably one who has survived long enough to earn a reputation by keeping their distance from people they work with and maintaining anonymity. That was pretty much how the netrunner player in my old CP2020 tabletop group worked - his PC never met the rest of the party in meatspace, though in-universe that was easier to accomplish as it was prior to Bartmoss breaking the Net.

[@farawaygaming9675]

I'm glad you make videos like this, I did all these quests but with so much going on it was hard to connect these things or even remember people that don't have physical appearances. Cyberpunk2077 needs that pause screen encyclopedia that Final Fantasy 16 does. So many intriguing and interesting people and things going on.

[@EnclaveSgt]

Good idea, I think there's a mod that does that. But on Playstation we can't have mods

[@mechastophiles2118]

Another reason b@d might not be able to do the legwork in Night City is that they're a known entity. We can scan people with our optics and see who they are & what they're wanted for; if Arasaka knows who b@d is, they might not be able to move around NC without getting jumped. Or it might just be part of the misdirection game; someone was seen entering the H11 server room shortly before an attack was launched from there, that someone is now on the short list of suspects.

[@ArcaneSorceror]

While I love the idea B@d is someone we have encountered, your final theory is the most likely. Though, I am curious if any of the names from the Gaslighting mission could be our mysterious hacker. Misinformation is one of the greatest tools for security. Misdirecting potential snoopers to the Badlands would be brilliant, but you would need some loyal followers to help with the ruse. I wonder if Sandra Dorsett could be our mystery netrunner...

[@SamBram]

Sandra is another interesting one tbf. If I bring up B@d again I'll consider her too!

[@stanimir4197]

Sandra's talking/writing style doesn't match at all, and she uses Wakako as a fixer. She is interested in the Night Corp, instead. Also, she is too young (29). She is a corpo, extremely unlikely to have the fanboy following in the underworld.

[@ArcaneSorceror]

@@stanimir4197 Did the person who went missing, and was likely unconscious the entire time really use Wakako as a Fixer? How would her age be any form of factor, as well as her being a Corpo (for what Corp?). So she is showing interest in one Corp, doesn't mean she can't be against others. I doubt an Corpo netrunner admits to being pro-Corp on the net.

[@stanimir4197]

@@ArcaneSorceror Age - the watcher on the tower is being referred as 'a kid', that would put the age in at least late 30s, morel like mid 40s. Wakako - she does pay for the gig (after the lockdown is over), and it's implied Sandra commissioned Wakako as a safety net, if her bio monitor goes off. Sandra does work for Night Corp, and she's already too busy with it (both overworked and interested in the AI exploitation/use) to have time for extras.

[@ScytheNoire]

I think they have a medical condition that confines them to somewhere out in the Badlands, and thus they use proxies a lot. I do think they are young, and have spent most of their life connected to the Net, becoming powerful there, while their actual physical form is very frail. I'm not sure we'll get to meet them, but it would be cool to do a few gigs for them.

[@russianworm4205]

its gotta be lucy I cant think of another netrunner with those attributes who is specifically going for arasaka

[@viorp5267]

They say in Cyberpunk 2077 that the only medical condition that can't be cured in Night City is muscle wasting disease and those can be cured in the Soviet Union, so highly unlikely. Being disabled is something easily solved with money in the world of cyberpunk. Not a problem a top level netrunner would face

[@MondoJohnny]

I partially blame Marvel movies for everyone thinking every single character and detail has some latent connection. That's very much a comic book-centric sort of style of world-building. Everyone is everyone else's secret brother. But it's still fun to go down the rabbit hole and often times we uncover things we never meant to in doing so. Nice focused look at things. Night City is a big place with a lot of netrunners. Why can't B@d just be B@d after all right?

[@stealthy9754]

This is why i sub, your love and dedication for this game is unreal choom

[@michaelbarber4878]

this is like five months removed, but the code in the killer program in flying drugs looks a lot (sort of) like the shit you put into highly configurable printers to configure label positioning, just with a different suite of characters. considering its probably similar firmware garbage since they're telling an antenna what to do, it seems like a clever riff if that's what they were doing.

[@kylebergen361]

To your Lucy theory, i do remember in edgerunners, her and david shooting down 1 way tickets to the moon. It seemed very likely that she wished to return. And to the point of, the game and b@d came first, we never get to see b@d and the show writers could have written Lucy to fit into some of those traits that b@d has in the game. I wouldnt say its entirely unlikely at least. Fun theories dude!

[@totalcreativegaming6681]

When it comes to your Lucy theory… granted the real life timeline of the game releasing before the Edgerunners Anime does technically put a spanner in the works… Edgerunner’s is still technically a prequel to the main game. So theoretically, CDPR and maybe even Mike could slightly retcon the identity of B@D to be Lucy. And maybe the reason B@D required others to hack things for them in the city & badlands is because they’re not on Earth to do it themselves. Maybe B@D is based on the moon… just like where Lucy was last seen. And Lucy definitely has reasons to be attempting to hack Arasaka… not only for perhaps revenge for how they treated her & her peers back in the day… but especially because they technically took everything from her… her friends and especially her lover, David. But also, like you said… she could be trying to free David’s engram from Mikoshi and the situation with the Wraiths and stuff could indeed be a decoy to make Arasaka and others believe they’re being hacked by someone in Night City or the Badlands, when really they’re hacking from the moon, and the net runners she employed could be just to maybe help with signal between the Earth and the Moon. Also, B@D’s compassion for that other hacker seems to somewhat fit Lucy’s personality and her experience of losing people she’s worked with. But indeed, B@D could be someone or something completely different. and yes.. I did say “something”, as in B@D might not even be human, they could be a rogue AI.

[@millzy7141]

Hey Sam, have you read much into Spider Murphy? Many key similarities regarding Netrunning & hacking Arasaka’s subnet (which Spider has done before and rescued ALT’s AI from Within the Subnet. Not to mention it feels like there’s things added to draw our attention towards like Bartmoss and other key important people but Spidermurphy I believe is only in the game during the prologue and didn’t die.

[@minecraftpufferfish9066]

crazy how this channel has only 35k subs. the videos are better than those on several million+ channels

[@Arter]

Look at how it’s spelled in the messages. “b@d” when it’s Regina and in the first Wraiths message, “B@d” when they’re talking to Watcher and in the second Wraiths message, “b@D” on the shard in the hideout. Maybe B@d is a team of people? Explains the varying motives, writing styles, and abilities, and signing their own name wrong. If it’s not an oversight by CDPR, maybe B@d is a team of different people.

[@JeffSparrow87]

Great content. I've returned to this game after 2 years being distracted by other stuff. And your videos got me back on track. Thanks. And you're making it easy to follow. Have nice synergy. And good quality. Keep it up. But I ain't going to give you money. Need it my self 😅

[@buddyzf]

the number of puns is just B@d

[@rhylism_]

B@D is an interesting character and I didnt even know about that bunker. Neat video

[@egor102]

Sandra Dorsett comes to mind since she hacked into night corp why not arasaka as well. We didnt get her name she goes by on the net afterall.

[@l33tster]

These videos have been bloody excellent, damn. So thankful I get to enjoy your work Thanks a ton! Really enjoying the theorycrafting, your thorough research and coverage of this awesome game. Sorry to hear about the BS with the age restriction. Bummer man Hoping things work out for you.

[@Skully_14]

I hope we’ll see more of B@D in Phantom Liberty, even if it’s just a gig or two. So cool!

[@EnclaveSgt]

I need to play this game again. Great fun and I love the videos from you my man

[@SixWingZombi]

I feel like we're forgetting something. Other than H11, B@D is seen interfering the drug operations. B@D doesn't like drugs, that's what I'm getting. This feels like an important detail.

[@michael7243]

Great vids man ur killing it !!!

[@zus5951]

Hey Sam just wanted to say that I really enjoy many of your Cyberpunk videos. I hope that one age restriction won't discourage you, I can imagine how it feels to put a lot of work into a video only for it to die, cause of the platform

[@shmonkey8025]

Now that PL is out I think slider is an option too with him being cripple and all.

[@SamBram]

Hmm....

[@calebmufcthompson]

The plot twist of all plot twists, B@D is secretly the Engram of Michael Jackson, who became a net runner (I know this isn't even at all true, but how awesome would that be) 😂

[@maffa2849]

NC has millions inhabitants, and just in the Afterlife there's tens of mercs we know nothing about. So.. yeah, last option is the most likely

[@OSGamer70]

I came across an interesting (yet disturbing) scene yesterday while exploring Kabuki in Watson - As I approach the area a few kids run away from the scene leaving a kid holding a gun sitting across a 'dead dealer'. .... the shard tells the story.

[@mbishop2050]

I could be very wrong when I type this, but what is B@D is a Rogue AI in the same fashion of the Delmain AI's. That could explain why the different tones in the communications, also why B@D could not physically access certain areas. If B@D is one of the Rogue AI's then it might not have anything to do with the heist at all, but the Mr. Blue Eyes ending of the game as He is almost certainly an AI and he says he his people or proxies, I forget which, had been running into Arasaka and gathering as much information and resources as they could while the Corp was heavily damaged. B@D could have been one of those people or proxies and was trying to get into Arasaka even before the Heist. It also shows that T-Bug was either a traitor from the start or a really bad net runner. The only problem I have is the sandwich in the bunker, but B@D could have used a Doll as you suggested as it would be the only way to do that, or maybe it was someone that B@D let squat there and told to leave when the Wraiths began their approach maybe?

[@Supersteam09]

It’d be hard to tell who bad is but Rejina made contact with him and is commonly referred to as a he. I’m just assuming but being a skilled netrunner and setting up bunkers, he’d have to be in his late 30s to mid 40s. He obviously has a body if the Wraiths were searching for him, having a bunker and setting up mines and drones. My guess is he, or she, can’t enter Night City because they’re wanted and could be also wanted by Arasaka. Thing about skilled netrunners is they live in the shadows. Getting caught could mean the end of them. IE, Alt Cunningham would be the perfect example of a skilled netrunner getting caught. Bugbear, even Brigid (Though Brigid got caught due to V’s assistance. Netwatch was the main reason). Thats all I can deduce from what was given.

[@Talytos]

21:13 Now I can’t stop imagining Sam sitting there working on his theories while licking the salt lamp from time to time to stay reasonable lmao

[@3r7s]

another piece of good content, as usually!! 👍👍

[@SpikeRazzor]

"You where expecting a mysterious netrunner, but its was me, Dio!"

[@Mortiel]

Dio's netrunner name is Z@Worud0 😂

[@Wargeneralguy]

First time commenter, long time lurker Bad is there in-game to remind the player that they are not 'the one'. That there are others like V out there, rather than be an unstoppable force in the light they stick to the shadows and do their own thing. Maybe hacking arasakas subnet was their ticket to the big leagues too

[@Nerazmus]

There is such a thing as 'retroactcive writing. Or prequels. Do you think Lucas had the whole story of Anakin figured out when he wrote Darth Vader? Of course not.

[@squigglesmcjr199]

Great video, ive got 2 playthroughs and i never noticed this. Very cool detail, i really wish i didnt have to buy a ps4 to see whats in the dlc tho.

[@blacksheepwall79]

John Obmar and Samuel Teasle are references to Rambo: First Blood btw

[@linbeifong9760]

I thought David didn't have a construct? Smasher said that he would've been a good one before shooting him in the face.

[@pedropierre9594]

B@D is probably an Edgerunner thats so good, he simply patrols the city at his own leisure doing good deeds and whats necessary here and there

[@aaronjohnson1005]

It’s a girl

[@musicmane4146]

@@aaronjohnson1005alt

[@phamtq]

My personal theory is that when you're doing the Konpeki Plaza heist and Bug runs into an issue, it's b@d doing something on the network. It's that delay that may have got Jackie killed.

[@NikolaiManning]

about the age restriction, I have seen something on another channel that covered Diablo 4 content, and they said that if you have violence in the first few minutes of the video, it can get age restricted.

[@dahybrid33]

John Obmar could be a nod to John Rambo

[@SamBram]

Lol, I didn't notice at the time. But actually yeah, that's dead obvious. It's just spelt backwards. Nice spot!

[@forthelichkingsname]

would be nice to see b@d as a new broker like wakako and regina. maybe give us gigs from the map expansion from phantom liberty dlc and when completed, he show himself to us with a big twist. maybe b@d is someone who's like V that got an engram on his head but successfully eaten by the engram... I mean, to meet someone that went through the same hell and got a different ending would be exciting to see, I think. anyways, love you content as always. I'll be here when phantom liberty drops.

[@sarahschlindwein603]

Yes edge runners came after the game but in the game a mission was added to get David’s jacket which means that edge runners story came before V’s story.

[@Cardali]

You should do a video on all the hidden interactions the Erebus/Canto Mk6 has with the base game. I think the Bartmoss or pre-Embers ones are my fav.

[@willywallyb2379]

Id bet bad is bartmoss. He always netran with his real name, and he has been known to be online and have a strong presence within named figured like Alt. He is DEFINETLY a great hacker and cares about the net, and he likely cares about others. I think B@d is just Bartmoss @ (or after) Death, which would be why he is anti corp so hard. It is canon he was on cryo death for a while before dying, and might have swapped to net before his bodies death. Odds are hes back in a quiet way, lining up some stuff to break more of the subnets

[@kelsielovesbbu]

great vid. side note - jsyk that happens to evelyn whether you do that gig first or not...

[@joka760]

From my understanding, the anime and game were meant to launch together (not too sure if it's true or not though). Could be Lucy, but I honestly am of the opinion that B@d is just a faceless runner.

[@alexandercampbell5136]

I think theres a B@d shard somewhere out in city center at a small radio tower in a little alcove in a big wall behind a fence. There are two dead guys there. I can't remember the exact coordinates, but I'll try and look for it again the next time I play.

[@superbad8008]

Was listening this video while playing, and ended up doing one the NCPD Scanner missions that mention them.

[@panzer622]

I was wondering if B@d was more than one person. Could be typos, but the fact that the different messages/references have B@d, b@d, b@D and B@D. Multiple people could also explain why there might be different agendas. (By typos, I mean by the game devs and not the netrunner. I can't see a netrunner changing their call sign like that.)

[@hotterotter1367]

19:00 that's just more or less true, the development restarted and got scrapped, two times I think, and the final "game" was made in a bit more that a year which was leaked by a dev. Soooo ... I don't know when they started to write Edgerunners ... yeah idk you're probably right

[@flyingsquid6062]

If it were Lucy, it explains why she can’t do things in person. Also, as far as the work with the wraiths, the motive could always be ulterior on B@d’s part, regardless of their identity. They might just be doing work to splinter themselves in in order to get something else, even if it’s as simple as information to turn over to a different faction for a profit.

[@FellaEla445]

Tbh I really want to think it’s Lucy who came back to Nightcity with unfinished business knowing she can’t face against arasaka so she decided to take care of other people she had problems with

[@lost7182]

With a quick and short google search (could be wrong here) but it seems as if the game canonically came 1 year after the events of the show, with Lucy also implanting and marking her friends’s graves, so I feel like b@d could be Lucy- and would be an excellent plot twist if so .o.

[@ymmortal4200]

nice sneak in of T-bug at the end

[@SamBram]

Wait, I didn't mention T-Bug in this video?

[@ralcogaming7674]

So just some observations of my own. In B@D's bunker theres a weapon rack with a rifle (it was an ashura for me not sure if it changes) and an empty weapon case. The weapon case is interesting because the gun that was inside doesnt match the silhouette of any available to us in game. It also had 2 slots for different barrels. Whatever was in it was heavily customized. B@D isnt just a netrunner theyre a full on fighter. Maybe even a techie. Also unsure if it matters but the computer screens have an article pulled up about "meatman" which is a serial killer operating in night city and could possibly be the one we hunt with River. Now i can go full detective and point out one of the wraiths was shot from the door of the bunker twice at least. Once in the heart and once in the gut.

[@Sorain1]

So, potentially a specialized twin-linked smart weapon. I assume given the still active defenses, B@D got clear.

[@shinrugal]

You're forgetting one more major netrunner :Spider Murphy. She has beef with Arasaka. She's in hiding. She is also a nerd for 80's and 90's pop culture ( She references Star Wars at one point so a Mario reference makes sense)

[@ljaquos]

...Huh. She'd also be 70 bare minimum at this point, having been in her 20s in the 2020s, and now it's 2077. Assuming age crept up on her harder than it did Rogue, that'd explain why she can't climb a big ass tower.

[@shinrugal]

@ljaquos Well if you remember Hanako is in her eighties, Yorinobu is in his nineties and Michiko is in her seventies.

[@justsomenormalguywithanorm2520]

New theory: Slider from the mq in phantom liberty is b@d

[@Myrkanth]

Lucy had returned to Night City. To visit Davids grave. "You did not take me to the moon, but you were there with me. "

[@kerraii2008]

Would have been nice if Regina had this tie into a way to get a reprogramed Skippy. One that could work the way you wanted it to, deadly or passively.

[@EM-bz1rn]

“Who’s that Pokémon” vibes appreciated

[@ozmul5810]

Playing Net runner is Scary Powerful as later Levels. I did a gig were I had to deal with a Shit tone of Millitech solders. So I caused two to go Cyberphyco, used contagion on a few others and then took over their Turret to mow down the rest. Which I didn't really need too as between them all fighting each other, wile there all slowly dying. By the time I took over the Turret Over half of them were already dead. So I just watched them theru the turret. All I was safely behind a bunch of bushes far outside there base. Because fun fact, with the Epic Kiroshi eyes, you can zoom in.

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

B@D is a physical person. B@D is a woman. (My guess is the "Princess is in another castle" message is the only thing we'll get on that. B@D operates mainly from and lives in the badlands. There's a few points for this. The first being the hidden bunker that was lived in, but also that it exists and she was there. Finding a place like that isn't really random chance. You either BUILD it, which implies an excess of time there, or you hack a few servers and find that it exists, which implies intentional searching. B@D's programs are always run from insertion of a shard. The only time it isn't, is when she contacts "Watcher". Finally, we get to the interesting part. Why B@D can't jack into the tower directly. And she's OPEN about that information. There could be a few reasons. B@D is physically disabled, though not likely given her base had stairs. B@D is recognizable enough that the NCPD actively track her image, which could be solved by a few choice hacks and she doesn't target NCPD. But my favorite theory is that she doesn't HAVE a jack. Unlike 99% of the people in Night City, I think B@D doesn't actually have any augmentations. I don't think she's a netrunner at all. I think she's just a supremely good coder. Maybe due to a bad experience or a bad brain stem or a bad nervous system (which is honestly what I think the name would come from in this theory, a way to reclaim her "disability" as something that is uniquely her), she's unable to get the cyberware. My main guess is that she's a nomad who never got the augments from a birth defect that wouldn't have affected her in the current day. While living as a nomad, she was able to piece together computers. She was eventually kicked out of the larger groups and had to live as a wraith. While there, she utilized her hacking and programming skills to make up for her lack of reaction time. Then got jobs to pay for food drops. Without being able to get a jack installed, she can't get employed legitimately in NC, as everyone uses cyberware to send money, messages, work, everything. I still can't quite tell what her big plan might be for Arasaka and those subnets, but I do hope that Phantom Liberty might explain more about her.

[@Jay-ho9io]

One of the best storylines su far. Nicely done.

[@DevaChriss]

Very good Job ! You made the most credible theory I seen in the comment section.

[@noxvardeen6978]

Not entirely correct with the employment / etc., at least in the gray/underground area (meaning non-corpo). There is a ripperdoc without any cyberware; so its not entirely impossible.

[@theironqueen2386]

my best guess is spider from the Jonny flashbacks the reason being that she is very skilled and daring enough to hit Akasaka and old enough and gamey enough to unironically reference Mario in a hidden bunker

[@Theboxhouse]

“I’m not crying, your crying” lol

[@toxygen0013]

I kind of have this personal theory that a lot more of the characters we come across in the game than we realize are AI constructs, and the reason for that is that the AIs beyond the black wall are sending out scouts into our side of things preparing for something. Delemain and Lilith being good examples. B@d also being one does fit.

[@TheBadGuy556]

I think B@D is either Spider Murphy or Lucy from edge runners. Both have good amount of reason to hate Arasaka

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

90 per cent of Night City has a good reason to hate Arasaka.

[@adelahogarth2761]

Personally speaking, I have a feeling B@D's reason for getting Watcher to climb the tower is purely because they can't be in two places at once. Think about it like this. Let's say you have infiltrated a site, B@d is clearly someone that puts a premium on anonymity which might suggest they got into a spot of trouble and needed a distraction of some sort to cover their activities, past or present, without being able to physically go there for the sake of breaking her cover. It sounds like, much like in the Corpo lifestyle choice where you work for Arasaka counter-intel and you advise on the Biotechnica plant inside, that they could have been a corporate spy amidst Arasaka's ranks. But like all spies they need people on the outside to help them with their activities (ditto in Corpo lifestyle, your initial relationship with Jackie Welles). This would also explain why there is a familiar tune between them, and why they could so easily 'send someone else' ... So they have likely spent years cultivating a cell of outsiders to do the stuff they suddenly can't do given their corporate cover. Maybe B@d helped out Watcher, and continues to help him out, which instead of being merely fawning admiration for a net celebrity netrunner, is actually merely a case of having dedicated off-site hackers on their side that *legitimately* feel like they owe them. B@d is a great netrunner, and they might respect them simply for that, but I have a feeling that given she can so easily get others to do something if Watcher isn't up to task--Suggests being personally acquainted and that Watcher is genuinely thankful to be called on to return some great favour. This is further cemented, in my opinion, by Watcher specifically using 'Choom' ... suggesting long term familiarity. And with B@d asking whether he was 'in Kabuki' ... suggests B@d has a whole cell of operators distributed through the city, and Watcher is one of their recruits. Watcher simply being ecstatic that B@d is finally calling up his number to help them on a job. This might be his ticket. A chance to repay someone that might have lent him eddies or something, or finally getting his chance to do some solid gig-work with B@d. 'Watcher never jacks out, you know that!' ... So B@d has obviously recruited them and seen them operate, but this might be a chance at the 'big times'... given just how many jobs and plot lines surround B@d she might be an up and coming netrunner fixer. It also explains why she legitimately doesn't want him to cark it--Also why he's so enthusiastic. I mean imagine being a gutterpunk netrunner in a corporate dystopia, who has landed gigwork with B@d? Wouldn't you be enthusiastic about the opportunity? Maybe so enthusiastic you want to prove your skills, and possibly bite off more than you can chew? Just because it's a corporate, dystopian cyberpunk setting, doesn't mean people are lacking their own Jackie Welles out there, after all. It would also explain why they're gettng the gangs to fight off against one another, as well as having dirt on things like corporate logistics and how to down drones. I think you're operating on a 'good/bad' paradigm where you assume doing right by a fellow netrunner represents 'altruism' or the like. I personally feel that they're simply a mercenary and/or corporate spy, with their own affiliations and friends that have nothing to do with an arbitrary morality split. They have allies, friends, and workmates... like you do in Arasaka Counter-Intel and being a liaison for 'Saka work with Jackie Welles both before and after the prologue. I feel like B@d is just that, personally.

[@Irrespons]

Yo, was curious about revolvers and found your yt. Been a blast watching some. I am a little of a no spoiler andy, so I am a bit worried about new content spoilers, on videos that is not obviously have spoilers . Example"after he betray you, you can shoot him and get this weapon". I want more of "during the Andy's quest, "spools" you might get this weapon depending on choice " spoiler in description / comment section. Just a wish, and you might get more people in the comments section that will boost the algorithm.

[@Irrespons]

Great work, keep it up. As I said it's just my preference, not a criticism.

[@phaylnx]

While I agree that Lucy, most likely, isn't B@D, your reasoning isn't as sound as you think. Invert your reasoning. CDPR had input on the Edgerunners anime. So they could have had Trigger Studio link in things to make us think B@D is Lucy. Her staying on the moon could easily be used as an inference to the princess being in another castle.

[@cudwieser3952]

A meta fact about frank abignail jr is he starred in catch me if you can as one of the arresting officers in the film.

[@AardvarkPaysOff]

Love this video. Exploring the theory of Lucy being b@d, David's memorial (At Columbarium) and message seems to indicate she came back and left the message 'You didn't take me to the moon, but you were there with me' (There is also messages for each of the crew, and David's mother right under). So I'm pretty sure that's in reference to how the show portrayed her trip, and that she came back. As to the possibility of because time mismatch, Anime isn't one and done in a year and while the production timeline of Edgerunners is unknown, a similar show with roughly the same runtime by other studio's (worse quality but whatever) takes roughly 3-6 years for a full production. So it's possible they chose the name b@d because character names hadn't been finalized. CDPR is also no strangers to long term planning and ARGs to tease future projects, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it being Lucy entirely. Hopefully we get the answers soon.

[@bryangmainerich7587]

If B@d is a Badlands resident, working with the wraiths could have been a gambit to set them up. They pull some stuff and run afoul of some big/bad entity and get wiped out. That takes care of the problem neighbors you had.

[@tachyon2357]

There is so much lore in this game. Just can't keep up.

[@kubaswiton9030]

Actually Edgerunners were supposed to be out before the game, but they were postponed. So using the actual accessibilty of the series to the public as an argument isn't that significant. And it makes sense that she has a fanboy(s) since David's crew story wouldn't go unnoticed to fellow Night City residents (Netrunners espacially). My take is B@d is either Lucy or Spider Murphy

[@Bobcat173rd]

There’s a mod that puts Lucy as an NPC in random locations in night city. It still freaks me out when I see her hanging out in iconic places.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

I wonder if Edgerunners was a wholly original story or if Pondsmith gave Trigger a bunch of characters and events to work with. I don't buy that it's Lucy, but it totally could be if B@D was a character Mike Pondsmith came up with and canonized a decade ago.

[@troikas3353]

*spoilers for edgerunners* The ending credits of Edgerunners give us a stylized PoV shot from Lucy. It shows her stumbling in a daze through an alley, presumably just after escaping with Falco, and it depicts her vision glitching multiple times. We then get a couple scenes seeming to indicate an indeterminate amount of time passing as she grieves, one of which is of her on her bed as a rocket takes off outside her window. Then we get a couple more scenes of her sprinting through an increasingly surrealistic, minimalist landscape before looking up at the moon again, and again the visual glitches. In the series itself we see her suffering from spasms in her hand. It only happens, I believe, twice and even though it is called attention too prominently in the animation it never actually gets discussed or plays any part in the narrative. And Mane’s final descent is a vast, minimalist roadway he’s running down. I’ve always felt there is a chance the show was quietly suggesting that Lucy never left Nightcity. She either went or is spiraling toward cyberpsychosis in the wake of David’s death and the moon scenes are just her dellusion as she’s actually just still sitting in that apartment, running her lunar date BD on loop. Trapped in a cage of light. No one ever really escapes Nightcity in the end.

[@haku8135]

It's entirely possible that Lucy is B@d. Here's why. First of all, to debunk the idea that CDProjekt Red weren't expecting Edgerunners and wouldn't have planted B@d in the game to be a reference to a character they didn't know would exist. Edgerunners was announced on a Night City Wire livestream on June 25, 2020. When did Cyberpunk 2077 release? 10 December 2020. Keep in mind, this is when it was ANNOUNCED. So CD would have been talking to Studio Trigger about it WAAAAY before this point, which is around six MONTHS from release of the game on its own. So there was plenty of time for them to put in some references to B@d. It's pretty simple when this just means putting in some text files, and even B@d's one direct mission could just be added in. There's nothing in the game that would be difficult to slot in even months before release, so citing the anime coming out after the game means nothing. They could absolutely have planned for this, the anime WAS supervised directly by CDProjekt Red after all. Right, so one thing that's very clear regarding B@d is she obviously doesn't like Arasaka. Super rare, right? But seriously, the fact everyone hates Arasaka means B@d being more open about it is kinda substantial. She seems to have specific beef with them, and again sure, loads of people do, but here's the thing. Lucy is an extremely skilled Netrunner, who was literally raised BY ARASAKA to explore the net and eventually get flatlined by AI. So that alone would be enough, but after escaping she then finds David, watches him get destroyed by Night City and then watches Arasaka personally deliver the finishing blow to both David's sanity and, you know, literally. Oh and she watches all her other friends get killed too, that probably helped. Lucy then escapes Night City and goes to the moon, where Arasaka can't get her. In Phantom Liberty, spoilers but we're kinda beyond the pale by this point, Songbird's primary goal is to escape to the moon, and long story short it's made pretty clear once she gets there, nobody can touch her. Not even the government. The moon isn't empty either, there's people living up there, so it's not like if you stay on the moon when the rocket leaves you just starve to death. Given how good a runner she is, Lucy would certainly be able to find work, plus she has zero reason to come back to Earth, every reason she had got shot in the face. (Yes some people have pointed out there's a message supposedly from Lucy and clearly ABOUT Lucy at the columbarium, but the thing about that is, it's not evidence Lucy came back. Falco could've easily done that for her at any time. Falco even has David's jacket and gives it to V.) In the Devil ending V is on a space station orbiting Earth, and when given permission, V can make calls on the Holo to people on Earth. So with the proper equipment it's entirely possible to interact with Earth, at least via the NET, from space. This means Lucy DOESN'T need to be on Earth to be a Netrunner. She could operate from the moon if she has the equipment necessary. We know Lucy is highly acrobatic and damn good in a fight, monowire aint nobody's fool. We know as well that Lucy is very sneaky, she hid IN NIGHT CITY from Arasaka for YEARS. She displays worry over Watcher and calls him "Kid". She wouldn't use Watcher at all, but she cannot do this job herself, just like she couldn't get into Megabuilding H11 herself, instead hiring V through Regina. Being on the moon would certainly stop Lucy from doing ANY physical aspects of gigs. The bunker can be effortlessly explained with one simple concept. Lucy could rent that bunker out to whoever she wants at any time. She could make it a diversion, because if someone finds out she's active and where she is, even if that place is on the moon, she might become substantially less safe. A message being left in a bunker does not mean Lucy was there or there recently. Princess Peach was always in the last castle, going by the reference. That line just means the people looking for her looked in the wrong place, she was never there, it's the wrong castle. B@d is a very dangerous Netrunner, which fits Lucy. B@d has specific beef with Arasaka, also fits Lucy. B@d cannot travel around Night City, and is never physically seen anywhere, fits Lucy. We never learn if Lucy has a handle, every Runner we meet in the game does have one. Now you could argue that Lucy wouldn't work with the Wraiths, but would V work with Maelstrom? Well, yes, V canonically does. Might turn on them, but still buys from them. One of the first missions is to buy a bot from Maelstrom. Yes you can pop Royce and just take the thing, but you can also just pay for it and even fight Militech alongside Maelstrom. But that's beside the point, the job is to pick up a bot from Maelstrom, it's Maelstrom that pulls weapons on V and Jackie first and unless you choose to do what they want and pay up (and don't spike their system with the virus) they don't leave you a choice but to fight them. We don't know why B@d worked with the Wraiths, but there could be any number of reasons. She seemed to arrange for the Wraiths and Maelstrom to meet and butt heads, whether this was so they'd kill each other or to gain their trust or to pull attention to something else she was doing to them? We don't know. She provided an anti-drone virus, but even in the gig that's not some super dangerous thing going on, it's basically just annoying to the badlanders. I mean V does more damaging crimes than mucking with some smuggling routes on a daily basis. Lucy IS still a career criminal, come on, she doesn't do exclusively altruistic things. In the end the Wraiths decide they don't need her and track her to a bunker where they plan to flatline her. B@d is ahead of them and it turns out to be a decoy, and the attempt gets yet more Wraiths killed. Again, we don't know what B@d wanted with the Wraiths, but it was highly likely she was using them just as they used her. That's just business as usual in Night City. So hopefully I've explained well enough why it IS possible that B@d is Lucy Kushinada, operating from a base on the moon. Of course though, we just don't know who B@d truly is. Lucy is just far more likely than this video claims. I mean come on, you really think Lucy would watch Arasaka go out of their way to kill the rest of her crew and then David after all she'd done to protect him and just go "Well I'm on the moon now, bygones and all that." For reference, a 1 way ticket to the moon, according to Lucy herself in Edgerunners, is 250 grand. Assuming she and Falco split the money that let her get that ticket evenly, Lucy would still have a MILLION eddies left over. COULD she retire on that? Sure. WOULD she though? Naaaaaah. She got her dream fulfilled, but unless you believe Lucy took her helmet off just after that last scene cut, she'd have a looooooooooot of time on her hands. Fulfilling a dream doesn't mean life just stops and all suffering is forgiven. Arasaka fucked her childhood, and then they killed her new family too. Cyberpunk isn't a series known for fairy tale endings.

[@mistressofdreams6031]

So much detail here, I love this and the last line is chilling and true: Night City has no fairy tale endings. 😔

[@haku8135]

@@mistressofdreams6031 Thank you. And something else I realized, as I've been playing a ton of Cyberpunk after 2.1 and phantom liberty. Just saying "Blank wouldn't work with blank" really doesn't mean shit. PANAM works with a Raffen. He betrays her, but that's the thing, she worked with him LONG ENOUGH for him to klep her CAR. A NOMAD'S CAR! That means she legit WORKED with him. Rogue set them up to work together, but Panam COULD have just backed out. She didn't. Depending on how you play, V can work with or in some way help pretty much every group in Night City, even SCAVS, maybe. You do a gig for a russian using the scav holo mask trying to appease the tyger claws. Go to Jackie's offrenda and you can literally have drinks with some Valentinos. Come back a bit later and you can literally beat the crap out of some more Valentinos in the same bar! You also do jobs for anonymous people sometimes, hell the Nomad opening is V transporting an iguana, and neither V or Jackie know who it's going to, and they don't find out until opening the thing that it was stolen from Arasaka to start with. The bottom line in Night City is, you work with whoever has what you need. Besides, the idea Lucy would NEVER take work from some random Nomads she doesn't care about because they're assholes to people she doesn't care about is, just kinda stupid. Like HOW many people did Lucy murder without a second thought to try and hide David again? You think she WOULDN'T have done worse shit? Wraiths were paying, she gave them a virus, they tried to stab her in the back, they got shot in the face. In Night City, that's called the weekend.

[@mistressofdreams6031]

@@haku8135 agreed

[@ctged]

Whole lot of quests has been redone, and I think I saw something bad in dogtown. There's no way for me to search the messages, but bad's bunker was first to me. I've missed it now three times.

[@amongabriel3383]

Real world aside... I mean we are in the net. Lucy could operate from the moon

[@kiwimelon1749]

the bad opperates kinda reminded me of bartmoss. meaning, i think bad doesn't do things in person, because their physical self is their weakpoint so to say.

[@Robopup325]

Perhaps bad has some sort of disability or sickness, trying to hack into Arasaka maybe for relic purposes, the maelstrom med warehouse maybe meaning to wipe it out and swoop in to get the spoils. Would explain how they can’t do gigs in person