Exposed: The Shocking Truth About John Deere Easy Change Oil Filters - A Multi Million-Dollar Scam?

[@dennisshaughnessy5612]

Completely agree, leaving over half the used, dirty oil in the machine every year is nonsense. Spend the money for the conversion kit because it's cheaper in the long run. (it's about the price of one of those quick-change filters, so will start paying for itself after the first oil change) And it also gives you peace of mind.

[@IndRepair]

Yeah I wouldn't be able to leave it like that for certain. Thanks for watching!

[@2015_Rubicnn]

Just add the drain tube and drain oil at the time of filter change.

[@IndRepair]

That would solve half the issue. The other issue is the price of the oil/filters at change time (along with price of excess beyond what is in thr filter). Thanks for watching!

[@philliphall5198]

It’s a terrible idea and it’s going to destroy the engine pretty quickly Just change it back to normal filter and save your money and engine

[@IndRepair]

Yeah seems to be the best option unless you like spending exorbitant amounts of money for a fancy filter that does nothing more than the original design would

[@JmNj84]

Thanks for the tip regarding removal of the side panel. On my first replacement of the Easy change cartridge, I could not fully turn it 90 degrees to take it out, even with a filter wrench. Once the side panel removed, I was able to position the wrench at the base of the cartridge and to remove it easily.

[@IndRepair]

Awesome. So glad to help. Thanks for watching!

[@bizboomer]

Perhaps this system is aimed at the mechanically challenged consumer, who buys equipment from a big box store with no parts or service department. There are consumers who have no business with any OPE (outdoor power equipment) and should hire their work done. Consider a follow-up video showing the conversion kit install. Thanks and great as always!

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching! I liked the idea when they came out, just figured it would be executed a little better and changing more than 1/3rd of the oil. Might as well say "never change your oil again"

[@vtramell3196]

I read an article a couple years back which stated that John Deere implemented the system because many owners neglected routine oil changes finding it to messy or cumbersome.

[@dennisshaughnessy5612]

That's a little harsh, pretty much all consumers were naive about using power equipment at one time. I know I was, but doing stuff anyway (and making the odd mistake) is the only way a person is going to learn.

[@gregfiber9790]

After I seen how much oil was left in it, I bought the conversion kit at John Deere for $20 dollars, then a filter and 2 quarts of oil for $30 dollars and I am happy. Leaving that much bad oil in the mower will ruin it very fast. Very easy to change over. I had more trouble trying to get the quick change filter on.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely a great thing to do! Thanks for watching!

[@PIOJOZATANIKO]

Cuantas piezas son para convertir? 2? Estoy apunto de hacerle el cambio al mio. Es dificil?

[@IndRepair]

Drain, nipple and oil filter

[@owenirc5139]

Okay, wait a minute, people. It's not a comparison of quantity of oil. It's also a brand new, clean filter. Some portion of old oil going through a new filter is beneficial. When you examine the oil when it is time to do the change, it is dirty. And you're putting a clean filter on with some new, clean oil. Also, it's not $50 vs $10. It's $50 and an hour of your life returned to you not spent waiting for dripping to stop and disposing of old. Time is money. So would brand new total oil and a clean filter be better for life of engine than their Easy Change method. Yes. But the preliminary text out of JD engineering said there was very little difference in engine life doing the new way vs old. And they also said some huge % of their customers never change the oil at all. So that's why this is superior. Unless you enjoy waiting for drips.

[@IndRepair]

I understand your stance and for some people it definitely makes sense. It will still cause the engine to fail faster

[@MrMan5014]

It’s a marketing ploy to sell super expensive parts!…because you ain’t buying that filter at Walmart!..

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, definitely trying to increase the bottom line numbers

[@vtramell3196]

I am on the 3rd season running my E120. When I first bought the lawn tractor, the 30-second oil filter was $39. Now that same filter is $50 and according to the owners manual, the filter is to be changed, "Yearly or Every 50 Hours (Whichever Comes First)". This season, I decided to drain the oil from the crank case. Despite changing the filter per the manufacturers direction for the previous 2 seasons, that oil came out black which confirmed my cause for concern over engine reliability and longevity with the 30-second system. I have since replaced it with the conventional system (available for $25 online). It should be noted that a conventional oil filter and 2 quarts of synthetic oil costs half that of the John Deere filter. When I did the conversion, I used a siphon pump to drain as much oil as I could from the crankcase through the dipstick tube which significantly reduced spillage when replacing the filter and installing the drain tube. This got me thinking, for owners who do not want to deal with draining the oil through the drain tube, they can siphon the oil as I did. This will remove some 95% of the old oil. Lifting the left side of the mower will accumulate the oil toward the dipstick tube will help siphon even more out.

[@IndRepair]

Good info! Conversion or not buying this set up seems like may be the way to go on this. Save some money!

[@mankind2112]

I've been running my Deere hard with the easy change system for 5 years now and no problems, that system was extensively tested before they put it on the market. There are additives in that system that condition the old oil and the filter it self is twice as big as a normal filter, all I had to do is top mine off one time. Every weekend mechanic thinks their way is the best way, I get it.

[@IndRepair]

Glad that it works well for you! I do not think most people would share the same view on the system. Thanks for watching!

[@ronaldmercer9616]

I don't think this guy is just a weekend mechanic 😂😂😂

[@jonirwin7316]

All dirty oil needs to be changed out. It's just common sense if you know even a little about engines.

[@rjentz]

Contaminated oil is an abrasive and can definitely wear on cylinder sleeves and rings it's almost like taking a file to a piece of metal of course it's a slower process, so the life expectancy is shorter.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely

[@kbeg132]

Leaving in the old contaminated motor oil makes no sense. The oil is contaminated with combustion byproducts that will not be removed by the new filter. The bearings just sit in dirty, water and acid contaminated oil all the time. Buy the conversion kit and give the engine clean oil and filter each change.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely!

[@user-cn2uv3mp3k]

So, if you wanted to keep the easy oil filter, even though expensive, to minimize oil spillage, could you just install a new drain pipe, to fully drain the oil, and have the convenience of the quick filter?

[@IndRepair]

You most definitely could use it this way

[@lukebard7589]

I feel the 5 minute is a better filter than the conversion kit. You get more filter and more overall oil because the case and the filter hold oil. Why not leave the better filter on and just drain 100 percent of the oil out. Full oil change and a better filter that cleans and cools better. Little more expensive but we aren’t doing lawn mower oil changes that often as a homeowner

[@IndRepair]

Interesting take but you may be onto something there long as you can afford an $80 oil change. Guess it is only once a year for that part most homeowners

[@TheTronder007]

This is a brilliant system... If you're John Dere.. otherwise not so much! We have a 2004 Husqvarna LT151 with a Kohler Courage 15HP engine and a Husqvarna R112C with a Briggs engine, so we have non of that easy change nonsense.. changing oil and filter on the LT151 is very easy and once I found a small funnel that was designed to hook up the discharge tupe from a washing machine, changing the oil without soaking the wiring harness on the R112C in oil is easy (no filter on the Briggs engine) Would absolutely have converted to a standard oil filter if we had gotten a lawn tractor with this system!

[@IndRepair]

Definitely great for them, not so much for us haha. Seems to be the way they are all going today

[@TheTronder007]

@@IndRepair Yes, I belive that they want us to buy it, run it and scrap it then buy again.. The mower deck on the LT151 was rotted out, Husqvarna had discontinued the deck-shell pan, but I managed to find and import an aftermarket one (identical to the original) Rebuilt with New spindles as the four of six bolts broke off under disassembly of the old deck (and they were tired anyway) reused the brackets/hangers.. Now i scrape off caked on grass and blow off the deck with our air compressor after each mowing and remove rust and repaint the underside between seasons..

[@sterlingthomas9682]

The cost is nuts!

[@IndRepair]

It sure is!

[@steveriggenbach90]

Never liked it for just that Too pricey and not enough oil. Thanks for letting people know.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching! Doesn't make much sense unless your the one raking in the money

[@steveriggenbach90]

@@IndRepair I also worried about SLIGHTLY heavier particulates.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely

[@fishnriver]

WHY ? would you want to contaminate good oil?

[@IndRepair]

In my opinion it is just to sell more engines and expensive oil filter/oil combos. No other logical reason I can think of. Thanks for watching!

[@denniscrawford5288]

If the gentleman had had the tractor on the ground it would have been an easy thing to take the old filter off and put back on. And it is not necessary to take the side panel off to change the filter. I do agree this is not a good way to change the oil.

[@IndRepair]

I don't ever think it's easy but sometimes it seems to be easier than others

[@General-Eclectic]

What does JD think you're going to do with the expended oil/filter? In the trash to contaminate the landfill? I'd be surprised that places that recycle used oil are going to want to deal with those metal containers filled with oil. They won't have the time to drain every one that arrives.

[@IndRepair]

That is a great question! I agree!

[@vyger6336]

Seems to me John Deere is taking a lesson from Apple .I Got rid of the Quick change filter . as soon as I bought mine and saw the first video. Went down to the local Auto Parts store to get the regular oil filter . I gave them the parts number for the John Deere filter so they could cross reference it.and they wanted $21.95 plus tax ...for a generic one that fit..Yikes. ...What a ripoff..

[@IndRepair]

It sure is crazy how expensive things can get to fit a Deere. Nothing makes you money run faster

[@garysgarage3669]

Taryl @ Taryl fixes all, did a video on these. He bought the Briggs parts that was originally on it before John Deer put their crap on it and put it back to normal.

[@IndRepair]

John Deere sells the conversion kits for them. Definitely better than this!

[@weekendatronnies6286]

I got a 2019 with 150 hours no problems and I can change my oil in under a minute

[@IndRepair]

For $50-$60 you sure can change less than a third of the oil in under a minute. Still leaves remaining dirty oil in the crankcase though...this will definitely shorten your engine life

[@Steve-pg8bf]

changed mine out that filter cost $56.00 with no tax ,conversion kit came to $ 41.00 took me about 1 hrs. TO change if that

[@IndRepair]

Definitely the best route! Thanks for watching!

[@donaldbracciano832]

Yes, that filter is $55.99 at Lowe’s plus tax. Good idea to Chang to conventional system. I use the Briggs & Stratton long filters on my Kohler engine. They fit John Deere too. Kawasaki has a different filter. John Deere Oil Filters are made by B&S. You pay for the name. Same with a Kohler filter. Pay for the name, same filter. My Kohler Command has 1085 hours and never any trouble. I use Valvoline 10W30 conventional oil.

[@philliphall5198]

I’m guessing jd thinking is every two years a new engine or trade it back to them I’m not buying anything from JD period

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, planned obsolescence and pitfalls of equipment are big money!

[@peterpulpitpounder]

Praise God for the conversion kit option!

[@IndRepair]

I know that is the truth! I try to get everyone who comes in to convert . Thanks for watching!

[@GenRicOpekc]

Thanks for this great video!

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

[@jonirwin7316]

JD haa done this for ONE reason. Shorten the life of the engine. Period. About $.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely!

[@ericsherman4181]

Got a new s130, also the kit lol, first oil change it will be fixed

[@IndRepair]

Definitely the best thing to switch out!

[@226eagleeye]

Thank you for this video.

[@IndRepair]

Sure thing! Thanks for watching!

[@rapturebound197]

JD the king of preditory parts $$$

[@IndRepair]

They sure seem to love laughing at everyone and raking it in because they have a nice pretty green bag/box

[@KSMike1]

I’m not sure which is more stupid - that system, or mounting an oil filter thread side down (on any engine).

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, doesn't seem like a good idea in any application!!

[@captlightyear]

@@IndRepair DEI design

[@crisprtalk6963]

Well at least it not like Briggs saying no oil change required. Still, Deere sucks.

[@IndRepair]

Very true, they came up with a mass marketing campaign to mess people over on that one! I have to explain to 2-3 customers every day that regardless of what they tell you the oil does need to be changed

[@monkeywentbananas]

LOL! Just another reason why You shouldn't buy a John Deer lawn tractor! This is what happens when You let bean counters run Your company instead of good engineering and design!

[@IndRepair]

They sure count a lot of beans because of this design! Thanks for watching!

[@caseih-pz9vp]

Go to a JOHN DEERE dealer and by a X model yes you pay a lot more but it will last longer and can do a real oil change on it.

[@Squad-pl7oo]

Delete your easy change system and install your conversion kit your v twin will thank you and she'll last for many years

[@IndRepair]

People do it and have that same opinion. I definitely would!

[@lou8877]

Where to get conversion kit ?

[@IndRepair]

You can get the conversion kit at amzn.to/3PcBNG1 with oil or at amzn.to/3IvOI24 without oil

[@Matt-1992]

John Deere oil 9 dollars at Lowes

[@IndRepair]

NICE!!

[@captlightyear]

@@IndRepair Lowes John Deere Easy Change 30-Second Oil Change System Model #AUC12916 Item #924091 $55.98

[@samiam9008]

Love to meet the engineer who came up with this idea.. online college degree I'll bet.

[@IndRepair]

Would be interesting to know. I bet he got a good bonus when coming up with this one

[@samiam9008]

@@IndRepair when that class action lawsuit comes rolling in maybe they'll second guess this move. I have a JD and the first thing I did was get rid of their system. How do they defend this idea.

[@IndRepair]

@@samiam9008 They say it extends life by using the system. Ha! They must be talking about vs not changing the oil at all... From the website: "Revolutionary Design: The EASY CHANGE™ system simplifies oil changes, allowing you to replace both oil and filter in just 30 seconds, saving time and effort Improved Filter Media: Featuring enhanced filter media, the EASY CHANGE™ oil filter captures more contaminants, ensuring cleaner oil and a healthier engine Increased Oil Capacity: The new system offers increased oil capacity, providing better lubrication and cooling for your engine, resulting in longer engine life Efficient System: The Easy Change System eliminates the need to drain your oil, making it a more environmentally friendly and time-saving solution. Regular Maintenance: John Deere recommends using the EASY CHANGE™ 30-second Oil Change System every 50 hours or at the end of your mowing season to maintain optimal engine performance"

[@caseih-pz9vp]

I wonder if JOHN DEERE is thinking a little of something is better than nothing at all. Fact most people do not change there car oil when they should only when they take it in for something else.

[@IndRepair]

I suppose, to me changing it irregularly all the way is going to be better than changing a third of it. Thanks for watching!

[@sherrischneider2794]

Way way overpriced. What a scam.

[@IndRepair]

It is really pricey for half an oil change!

[@JK-rv9tp]

The EC filter has over twice the filter media of the standard one, so I might just replace the crankcase oil, drain the oil out of the old filter, and reuse the old filter for 2 or 3 oil changes.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching!

[@knighthawk86855]

Everything JD is over priced.

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, gaskets sold by John Deere for the Kawasaki mowers are almost always about double because they come in a green bag. Many of the parts they sell are made by Rotary and other companies with overengineering at every turn. Thanks for watching!

[@knighthawk86855]

@@IndRepair yes nuts, I had to JS63 mower, and the special cable was almost $100.00, I told the customer, and he freaked out, but I repaired it by clipping the ends off, and using new braided cable, and connectors, $5.00, or $100.00. LMAO

[@IndRepair]

Ha! And they cost what to make? Couple bucks!

[@knighthawk86855]

@@IndRepair you got it.

[@roncoquillette6576]

I bought an oil wrench.

[@IndRepair]

That helps!

[@jp-us9rq]

My neighbor has a 20 year old lawn tractor he never change the oil just added it when needed lol I put less the 25 hrs on mine a year and I change my oil maybe I should go every other year im just wasting money

[@IndRepair]

Haha! Whatever suits!!

[@crisprtalk6963]

THey want you to buy a battery powered unit.

[@IndRepair]

They will force us all to at some point consumer wise I just hope I never see the day