Exposing Anti-Catholic Rhetorical Strategies of Jeff Durbin

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@MotherOfTwelve
@MotherOfTwelve Ай бұрын
Hi there! I'm the woman in the original video asking the questions about Jeff's faith tradition. The way this whole conversation started was because Jeff saw us praying the rosary. I watched him and his church members smugly looking at us while we prayed and he proceeded to take out his phone to record us. When he was done, this Catholic gentleman asked him if he had any questions and that is how the conversation started. So yes, this was not a pre-planned conversation or pre-planned attempt by Jeff but he definitely seized the opportunity. I found the conversation extremely wonderful but I never considered it a debate. Reformed theology is incredibly interesting to me, yet, theologically illogical. This is why I had so many questions. You are correct to say we are, definitely, not skilled debators or apologists and it has been incredibly unfair to see how so many Catholics in Jeff's comment thread were calling us watered down Catholic's, un-catechized, ignorant , and the list goes on, when most well studied Catholics would be taken off guard under the same circumstances. What I will say, is that this gave me and my children (pregnant with my 13th) the fire we needed to really dive deeper into our own understanding of atonement theology. My 13 year old son who asked a question in the video, was extremely affected by this experience in a great way. He is now on fire for theology and even, more so, the EUCHARIST!
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 Ай бұрын
That’s so great. I often feel frustrated and annoyed when I can’t get through to people, but then I realize I can go deeper into my own faith, so it’s not a waste.
@MotherOfTwelve
@MotherOfTwelve Ай бұрын
​@@EpoRose1absolutely!
@wlg2677
@wlg2677 Ай бұрын
Do you speak Spanish? or have access to Spanish translating AI? There much more apologetic material in Spanish than in english. BTW eeeh I am sorry but you did kind of looked like a watered down catholic, sorry about that. BUT as you say this is just a matter of studying.
@MotherOfTwelve
@MotherOfTwelve Ай бұрын
@@wlg2677 prudence will do you well before replying. Saying sorry about that after such an insult is a testament to your ability to discern.
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 Ай бұрын
atonement theology. Will theology get you into heaven?
@jpesmar
@jpesmar Ай бұрын
Jeff Durbin is a master at debating and rebuking elite level Catholic apologists. Bob from down the street, and Tim up in aisle 3 of the local grocery shop count among some of Durbin's most notable victories.
@wlg2677
@wlg2677 Ай бұрын
There are more Latin American apologists than English speaking ones, of course the US is/was a primordially protestant country. This is why one knows what to answer protestants.
@suzana2963
@suzana2963 Ай бұрын
No one is master, they just put their opinions that’s it. The real Master is only Lord Jesus Christ and His true servants, servants are catholic Saints.
@MrVsky11975
@MrVsky11975 Ай бұрын
@@jpesmar lol, he should debate Jimmy Akin, Sam Shamoun and Trent Horn and see how he does.
@He_who_lives_forever
@He_who_lives_forever Ай бұрын
@@MrVsky11975 Hes been asked to debate but has provided no answer,
@MrVsky11975
@MrVsky11975 Ай бұрын
@@He_who_lives_forever I would not be surprised if he does not want to because he knows he will get drilled.
@John_Six
@John_Six Ай бұрын
Jeff Durbin's pastor, James White, didn't stand a chance against Alex from Voice of Reason. I'd like to see Durbin debate Alex with these straw man arguments.
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen Ай бұрын
Alex the GOAT
@Justas399
@Justas399 Ай бұрын
I watched that debate and Alex got his clock cleaned.
@John_Six
@John_Six Ай бұрын
@@Justas399 You and Tony the SDA are my favorite protestants in youtube comments. You guys are so nice you always leave comments that are easily refuted for everyone to see and learn.
@GranMaese
@GranMaese Ай бұрын
​​@@Justas399Said no one intellectually honest nor deranged ever, little devil Justas.
@GranMaese
@GranMaese Ай бұрын
​​@@John_SixSo true! Justas and Tony the SDA may even be plants! 'Cause their nonsense and dishonest arguments may have converted way more people into Catholicism than any video they have ever commented on! We should be thankful for them!
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
Being a Catholic convert from protestantism, I have been Catholic long enough to find protestants like Jeff Durbin completely boring. Their arsenal consists of one statement "So what you are saying is ..."
@duke927
@duke927 Ай бұрын
Many of these folks have many beliefs about Catholicism that are untrue and would be laughable if they weren’t so hate filled.
@Justyouraverageguy172
@Justyouraverageguy172 Ай бұрын
AMEN
@ANDY-h6m
@ANDY-h6m Ай бұрын
I find it odd that this accusation is commonly used by Catholics whenever they are challenged on doctrinal issues. It always seems that any criticism against RC is labeled as lies and misunderstandings done out of hatred. I see an awful lot of Catholics guilty of the exact same thing.
@Justyouraverageguy172
@Justyouraverageguy172 Ай бұрын
@@ANDY-h6mWhat does Jesus tell us we will be judged on Judgment Day? Our faith in him alone or our works? Therefore as apostles James and Paul say faith alone without good works will not save you from Hell and merit Heaven as they must go together. The reason why us Catholics get frustrated with Protestants is that they are using a Catholic Book aka the Bible to argue from which was put together by the Catholic Church in 300-400 AD
@andrewscotteames4718
@andrewscotteames4718 Ай бұрын
One day someone like Jeff Durbin will encounter a guy like me, who is also a Catholic convert from Protestantism with the doctrine of justification being the final straw that broke for me before converting. He will record the interaction, and never post it. I am willing to bet 😉
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake Ай бұрын
You bet there have already been many.
@joshgage7337
@joshgage7337 Ай бұрын
I bet I could debate you with 3 hours of sleep and still make more sense the your catholic refutation of sola scriptura. I find it funny Catholics think they're saved by grace through faith then immediately run behind the treasury of merit and their works when asked where they'll go upon death and how long to get out of purgatory. It's all made up nonsense with no biblical backing, find me one verse mentioning a treasury of merit or sacraments saving us along side grace through faith.
@jpd4676
@jpd4676 Ай бұрын
I don't understand why just because of Jeff Durbin is a Calvinist believe in the doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved that it broke for you but if you would have read more about what it says in the Bible you would have noticed it refute his doctrine and also I don't understand why you change into Catholicism when if you would have read the Bible it refute that also. That is odd.
@nardforu131
@nardforu131 Ай бұрын
Misunderstanding
@AMDG_JMJ
@AMDG_JMJ Ай бұрын
​@jpd4676 The Bible came from the Catholic Church: the Bible is a Catholic Book.
@SouthernFriedPap1st
@SouthernFriedPap1st Ай бұрын
Turn the debate back onto them: "Oh, so my religion is wrong...well, which of the thousands of contradicting Protestant sects should I go to?" Does your religion go back to Pentecost? Yes, so you'd have zero problem naming one person in every century since then who believed what you believe...Nothing but crickets.
@yankeecitygirl
@yankeecitygirl Ай бұрын
Roman Catholic Church: after 2000 years, still growing. Protestantism: still splintering after 500 years. By their fruits you shall know them.
@MaruAnderson-111
@MaruAnderson-111 Ай бұрын
@@SouthernFriedPap1st Exactly, that's what we need to start asking; Do you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood? Because Jesus says in red that you must or you will Not have Life in you! The Eucharist is the fulfillment of the old testament covenant. Plus Google even agrees Jesus Christ started the Catholic Church.
@peterhenryzepeda3484
@peterhenryzepeda3484 Ай бұрын
It’s so frustrating because not everyone is a skilled apologist, and all he is doing is making average Catholics look or feel stupid for the entertainment of his Protestant audience. While he doesn’t even understand Catholic doctrine.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
He is not skilled either, he has a set lock stock arsenal of statements which lasts around 10 minutes before he runs dry. To be honest since my conversion to the Catholic Faith I largely ignore loud mouth protestants who want to prove themselves and I mean they really are proving themselves. Who are they proving themselves to? They are proving themselves to God. Hang on a minute , they are proving themselves to God which is a work. They tell me they are smug in their salvation but still try to prove themselves.
@CatholicForever83
@CatholicForever83 Ай бұрын
Jeff is engaging in Gish galloping 😮 it’s a debate technique where an individual overwhelms their opponent with a rapid succession of arguments, making it difficult to address each point effectively. Gish galloping is considered a logical fallacy. It falls under the category of “shotgun argumentation”, 🎉 where the sheer volume of arguments presented makes it difficult to refute each one🥷 individually, even if many of them are weak or irrelevant. 🏋️‍♀️
@m.pixley8413
@m.pixley8413 Ай бұрын
Similar to "bait and switch"
@seanmcelroy9774
@seanmcelroy9774 Ай бұрын
When I have ran into that with debates/discussions with Protestants, I will take control of the situation and just try to focus on one point at a time. When they unload like 10 different Bible passages (not taken in context mind you), I will say “stop, let’s just focus on one thing and not lose sight of what we’re talking about”. And then I will stick to the first passage they threw at me and not change subjects until we’ve discussed that. They will try to divert but I will get us back on track. If I let them control the conversation, it’s like a passage salad and I don’t even know where to begin and I’m lost in the sauce
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 Ай бұрын
​@@seanmcelroy9774 very wise tactics
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
Yeah its what I call splatter gun. A myriad of accusations, no proof, and you on trial to respond. Sorry whats the question? is my answer.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 8 күн бұрын
​@@seanmcelroy9774 Brilliant! That works for me, too! 😁👍🏻 It also helps if you reach for the Bible first. If you don't let them Gish Gallop, they fall apart.
@PHXHEAT74
@PHXHEAT74 Ай бұрын
It’s a disgrace that Durbin is taking this guy away from the reason of the gathering, praying against the evil of abortion. Durbin and his lousy theology has been throughly crushed in many, many debates and refutations. What a clown.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 Ай бұрын
Pray for him
@eamonob84
@eamonob84 Ай бұрын
He just wants a video to post.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
He's undefeated from what I've witnessed. And that's because he follows Jesus the right way.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 Ай бұрын
@michaelahue6830 John calvin wasn't a Baptist neither were the church fathers. The Baptist church didn't exist until the seventeenth century. And the idea that God fore ordained all evil before it happened makes God the true first cause of all evil. And a God who fore ordained sinners to hell before they're born (the calvinist God) contradicts scripture which says God wills that all men everywhere repent. If God willed that he wouldn't fore ordain anyone to hell. Rather God knows who goes to hell but he doesn't will it to happen. Sin and an unrepentant heart is what sends people to torment, God desires that we live eternally, not experience eternal torment. But God also doesn't force his will on his creatures. If he did, he would have forced Adam and eve to not eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
@prayunceasingly2029
@prayunceasingly2029 Ай бұрын
@michaelahue6830 I am unable to find Jeff durbin vs any catholic apologist in a debate on KZbin for some reason. If he's undefeated he should debate a catholic apologist some time.
@debshirley6904
@debshirley6904 Ай бұрын
I am Catholic again but was Protestant for 40 years. Protestants believe they are made righteous before God by faith in Christ, and Protestants believe they are being made holy (growing in holiness) by sanctification, or the work of God through the Holy Spirit in us. Christians do grow in holiness.
@frankovstovski
@frankovstovski Ай бұрын
Like a typical calvinist, he hates Catholicism more than he loves Jesus Christ.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
We hate all FALSE TEACHINGS. But we love those who are caught in it. You simply are not in a place of understanding. I pray that one day you will be.
@frankovstovski
@frankovstovski Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830Who gets to claim what’s a “false teaching”? Your own personal interpretation? Who gave you that authority? Jeff Durbin? John Calvin? The SBC? You’re simply just claiming you’re your own magisterium with your accusation.
@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf
@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf Ай бұрын
catholicism is like islam a false religion that used former pagan gods now renamed to christian ones.
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 28 күн бұрын
so very true - that is why these guys are seriously risking their eternal salvation
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 8 күн бұрын
@@frankovstovski All religions are false. You think the CC doesnt head that list with all its idols and idolaters ontheir knees befor them?
@aisthpaoitht
@aisthpaoitht Ай бұрын
I like a lot of Protestant preachers. But Jeff Durbin isn't one. He is slimy and disingenuous. He monologues rehearsed talking points and has zero interest in an actual honest discussion.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't call it rehearsed. He is just calling out the many errors that comes from false teachings. You not liking it matters not. It's the TRUTH. And I pray you come to recognize it.
@aisthpaoitht
@aisthpaoitht Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 to you, does it seem like he is having an honest discussion or simply reciting his answers?
@A-ARonYeager
@A-ARonYeager Ай бұрын
I used to love Jeff, but he is so smug when talking to people it turned me off to watching him
@He_who_lives_forever
@He_who_lives_forever Ай бұрын
same, but after watching how to be a christian on youtube I couldnt unsee what i saw.
@A-ARonYeager
@A-ARonYeager Ай бұрын
@@He_who_lives_forever I'm unsure who that is. What did they post exactly?
@secessionblog3189
@secessionblog3189 Ай бұрын
I'm only 3/4 through the video. But at this point, for someone unexpectedly ambushed by a widely known professional debater and apologist, I'd say the Catholic gentleman did remarkably well!
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
But he is still wrong and outside of Gods eternal grace, as all who adhere to firm Catholic traditions.
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 Ай бұрын
I don’t have time right now to watch all of this at the same time, but are you saying that Jeff Durbin took an opportunity to divide people on theological topics while they were united in fighting against ab0řtioņ?
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 Ай бұрын
That's Jeff for 'ya......
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
It was the loving thing to do. The man is yoked with a false teaching, and he was only trying to help him see that.
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 Jeff is a false teaching.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 8 күн бұрын
​@@michaelahue6830 He's yoked to 2,000 years of Church Teaching
@johnchung6777
@johnchung6777 Ай бұрын
Indeed the thief on the cross was worthy of being in paradise with Jesus that day after the thief confessed his sins to Jesus along with his penance of being crucified and suffered immense pain through being crucified along side Jesus to make amends and atonement for his sins that he committed which Jesus excepted at that time because Jesus was still living which made that particular situation except able to Jesus.And it’s so true that Jesus said to the repented thief after his confession and painful excruciating penance to expiate and make amends for his sins Jesus said to the thief I say this day you’ll be with me in paradise not HEAVEN notice the distinction.Thank you catholic brother for your excellent presentation AMEN 🙏
@christianstephens7213
@christianstephens7213 Ай бұрын
As a former Penecostal the reformist used to drive me crazy. As a Catholic they drive me crazy
@MrJohnmartin2009
@MrJohnmartin2009 Ай бұрын
Calvinism is a sophistic system without much historical witness prior to Calvin's inventions at the reformation. There are no biblical solas and the Cavinists deny apostolic succession removing the authority of bishops at church council.
@MrVsky11975
@MrVsky11975 Ай бұрын
Jeff Durbin is a “once saved always saved” believer.
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen Ай бұрын
True true
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Ай бұрын
His Calvinistic Baptist theology, strays away from the actual Reformed faith. They have a weak view of the sacraments and they tend to look to their own faith instead of the works of God (the sacraments).... Calvinism without sacraments is not Calvinism. Baptist theology is weak.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig Ай бұрын
The historic term is assurance or eternal security which is coupled with perseverance of the Saints...when a Catholic uses the term once saved always saved it is usually meant in a pejorative sense as if the teaching involves a license to sin...on the contrary we believe the Apostle Paul teaches the biblical doctrine of assurance and perseverance of the saints yet he is careful to anticipate the charge of teaching licentiousness when he states in Romans 6:1 What then shall we say to these things shall we continue to Sin that grace may abound, certainly not!
@soteriology400
@soteriology400 Ай бұрын
Because he believes in the atoning work of Christ.
@MrVsky11975
@MrVsky11975 Ай бұрын
@@soteriology400 and so does every other denomination
@Vincenzo-wn1or
@Vincenzo-wn1or Ай бұрын
Durbin will become Catholic when he eventually reads his Bible properly.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
This is what Catholics need to start doing.
@MrJeremyoo
@MrJeremyoo Ай бұрын
at some point you just cant listen to prots anymore xD
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 Ай бұрын
Well there is the whole “shake the dust from your feet.”
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 Ай бұрын
Yeah, dont listen to prots. Listen to Cardinal McCarrick or Marciel Maciel
@MrJeremyoo
@MrJeremyoo Ай бұрын
@@peterzinya1 nice try
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 Ай бұрын
@@MrJeremyoo Im not a prot but catholics call me one anyway. There are two kinds of people. The saved and the unsaved. Doesnt matter what religion one is in if they are unsaved. Butcher baker candle stick maker. If one is unsaved and dies, they are in trouble. No matter what religion they are in or how nice they are. Sad to say, but i dont make the rules.
@harmzyd
@harmzyd Ай бұрын
Facts. Listen and question the prots. But if they won’t argue, and only want to quarrel, then go argue with pagans. That’s what I’m doing.
@MaruAnderson-111
@MaruAnderson-111 Ай бұрын
Jeff deletes comments of scripture from his channel, that don't align with his views. He has deleted 4 of my comments that proved he's wrong, and I just quoted scripture.
@ministeriosemmanuel638
@ministeriosemmanuel638 Ай бұрын
Not defending Jeff or anything, but are you sure that he’s the one that does that? Because KZbin tends to delete comments out of nowhere recently.
@MaruAnderson-111
@MaruAnderson-111 Ай бұрын
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 They were comments under comments, with only scripture. That proved he was wrong and they were deleted. I do believe it was him or someone on that channel. It happened 4x.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
Share some of those scriptures here. What scripture do you believe Jeff ran from? Otherwise you are a liar and full of yourself.
@MaruAnderson-111
@MaruAnderson-111 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 Sure James 2-14:26 (Faith and works) 14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? 17 So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 Indeed someone may say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works. 19 You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble. 20 Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works. 23 Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.” 24 See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? 26 For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
@MaruAnderson-111
@MaruAnderson-111 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 2 Peter 1-20 know this first of all that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation.
@CatholicHousewife2017
@CatholicHousewife2017 Ай бұрын
Paradise in the "today you will be with Me in Paradise" can't possibly refer to Heaven as we see in 1 Peter 3:18-21 - Jesus didn't go to Heaven after the Crucifixion, He went to Purgatory aka Prison aka Paradise aka Bosom of Abraham.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
No, no no. Blasphemy.
@CatholicHousewife2017
@CatholicHousewife2017 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 Bible, not blasphemy
@SolaPastora
@SolaPastora Ай бұрын
No blank slate reads the Gospels and comes up with “once saved always saved.” - that theology is only passed on from false teacher to false teacher. - people panic at the thought of insecure salvation because of their lack of love for Jesus, and overwhelming love of ‘self.’
@TheEdzy25
@TheEdzy25 Ай бұрын
It's jeff durbin...dude should stick to debating mormons..😅😂
@bbqbros3648
@bbqbros3648 Ай бұрын
Jeff is unfair to any faith outside his own unfortunately
@ministeriosemmanuel638
@ministeriosemmanuel638 Ай бұрын
His is Calvinistic Baptist
@clivejames5058
@clivejames5058 Ай бұрын
Catholic Answers makes an interesting point about this passage: A larger issue is that the Greek manuscripts that contain this passage do not contain punctuation. So did Jesus say to him: “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise” OR “Truly, I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise.” Punctuation makes a big difference! Also bear in mind whether “paradise” means heaven. It could also refer to the abode of the dead for the righteous, the bosom of Abraham.
@HaleStorm49
@HaleStorm49 Ай бұрын
The latter. It's referring to the world of spirits where Jesus continued his ministry... According to Peter
@kinghoodofmousekind2906
@kinghoodofmousekind2906 Ай бұрын
That is something that I didn't know! Interesting, I'll have to check that episode of CA!
@clivejames5058
@clivejames5058 Ай бұрын
@@kinghoodofmousekind2906 It's on their written section - just type in relevant words
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
Where in the Bible do we hear of purgatory?
@kinghoodofmousekind2906
@kinghoodofmousekind2906 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 Matthew 5:26 and 1 Corinthians 3:15 speak of purification paid to God, which are some of the passage from which the teachings about Purgatory came to be defined with that name. There's also a passage with similar images of purifying flames in Maccabees, but I forgot which one. I'll have to check that one.
@blairdavis4734
@blairdavis4734 Ай бұрын
Imagine going to a pro-life event and saying to yourself "this would be a good place to be divisve with other christians"
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
We preach to all the lost. You are not cut from the same cloth. You have trusted things taught to you that goes against God, and I pray you realize that and leave it before its too late.
@blairdavis4734
@blairdavis4734 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 you have no idea what I believe. Jeff Durban is a scoffer and a mocker. He is not a preacher. He doesn’t care about the lost. He cares about his ego, winning, and making himself look superior. I can promise you “reformed baptists” have plenty wrong with their theology and the fact that you can overwhelm a random on the street in a debate, does not equal perfect theology.
@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf
@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf Ай бұрын
catholics aren't true christians why would any true believer want to be united with one of the false religion of babylon??
@marteld2108
@marteld2108 Ай бұрын
John Calvin was the worst Bible exegete in history.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
Catholicism is akin to Calvinism
@marteld2108
@marteld2108 Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ Not even close.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@marteld2108 actually worse
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ For the love of God I have listened to you spout so much nonsense on this posting. Fairly much everything I have read you say is just complete contrived nonsense with no intrinsic value. But one thing I do know. You will keep doing it, because that is just who you are.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@darrylbatchem8985 hello my friend. Can you help us all understand the RCC way of salvation. I ask and then I get a diff answer from each Catholic? How many ways are there in your organization? How do you attain salvation?
@eliasmartinez9485
@eliasmartinez9485 Ай бұрын
This is why pastors like Jeff Durbin only go out and find lay Catholics that are not strong in their faith and catholic doctrines. I haven’t seen a video of Durbin debating any professional Catholic apologists with these same questions and false definitions of Catholic doctrines.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
How do you attain salvation? Do you under the Catholic rules? Can you quote them in regards to salvation please
@petros-petra
@petros-petra Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ By Grace through Faith that works in Love. As long as you die in a state of Grace you'll make it to Heaven.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@petros-petra you and the catechism do not agree. What are the catechism rules for salvation? What does the Bible say?
@petros-petra
@petros-petra Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ The Church teaches what the Apostles taught.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@petros-petra the RCC is just like the early church fathers who walked away from Paul and followed the apostles doctrine for Israel. So you follow Christ via His earthly ministry? Yes or no?
@DaphneMaerie
@DaphneMaerie Ай бұрын
Hi, made it till the end😊 and I appreciate your work. Great commentary. Thank you
@Gladdig
@Gladdig Ай бұрын
Venial sins aren't necessarily "not grave matter". They might be of grave matter, but not done with free will or knowingly.
@mayannsteinbeisser5228
@mayannsteinbeisser5228 Ай бұрын
Thank you for a very thorough defense and explanation of the Catholic position!
@jorgeramirez4675
@jorgeramirez4675 Ай бұрын
Sam shamoun would destroy jeff durbin just like he has james white...
@adriangutierrez441
@adriangutierrez441 Ай бұрын
"Sataspasio" I am not sure what this word means but I love the way James White and this guys says it.
@Wgaither1
@Wgaither1 Ай бұрын
Suffering of Atonement
@brittoncain5090
@brittoncain5090 Ай бұрын
It means that they know Greek and are therefore smarter than whoever they're talking to, which means their position is correct lol
@Joker22593
@Joker22593 Ай бұрын
It's a particular opinion about how purgatory works that Protestants are most offended by. There are other acceptable views of purgatory that are far more amenable to Protestant styles of thinking, but these Protestants are looking to score points, not come to an agreement.
@stevied3400
@stevied3400 4 күн бұрын
Satispassio
@cactoidjim1477
@cactoidjim1477 Ай бұрын
For Confession and John 21: Either the verse doesn't say what it seems to say (i.e. it's somehow symbolic) - OR - Jesus gave the power to forgive to the Apostles. If Jesus gave the power to forgive to the Apostles, then it is not Jesus *alone* who forgives (though He always is the *ultimate source* of forgiveness) because the Apostles could forgive - even if only for a short time. If the Apostles did receive the power to forgive, that power either ended with the Apostles, - OR - it was passed on. Scripture is not *explicitly* clear either way, so a case must be made either implicitly through Scripture or with the evidence of history. The Protestant who argues against Apostolic forgiveness being handed on will likely end up as a Cessationist.
@teddyabella-pz9kl
@teddyabella-pz9kl Ай бұрын
Thank you catechumen, I am proud I am Catholic I am alive.
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 Ай бұрын
Yes, didn’t Jesus go to free the souls from Hell first?
@CatholicCarpenter
@CatholicCarpenter Ай бұрын
Preach it young brother!! Glad the algorithm had me stumble across your channel..
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
Me too. Though I completely rebuke all that was tried. You are lost in tradition that will lead you standing against God. Hellbound. And is your right. But I'm hoping that eventually you come to understand TRUTH. But as of now, you have not.
@robertg227
@robertg227 Ай бұрын
You and your group are a blessing to all. You’re out praying for the unborn and raising a family. You are a true Christian. Thank you
@hiswill-r122
@hiswill-r122 Ай бұрын
Durbin is a poor man's James White, which isn't saying much.
@Paterquia
@Paterquia Ай бұрын
Durbin is just James White regurgitated with a longer beard and more pomade.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
They are men of God, on track for heaven, trying to save you from the opposite.
@Paterquia
@Paterquia Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830 typical Protestant arrogance condemning people to hell. I would hate to be you when you have to explain to Our Lord why you saw fit to take His place.
@petros-petra
@petros-petra Ай бұрын
Jesus told the thief on the cross he'll go to Paradise/Abrahams Bosom, not Heaven. The new covenant didn't start until His resurrection.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
Israel was promised an earthly kingdom. Do you also pray the Lord’s Prayer and ask for that kingdom to come on earth?
@petros-petra
@petros-petra Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ sure
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@petros-petra you also pray for forgiveness of sins as you forgive others? That’s how we are forgiven now - after the cross?
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@petros-petra so you are expecting the promised eternal earthly kingdom as Israel was promised? No heavenly expectation for you?
@petros-petra
@petros-petra Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ I'm not sure I understand you We receive forgiveness of sins through baptism and from that state onwards through the sacrament of penance. Yes I do pray for forgiveness of sins The Church is the new Israel
@user-hj8vd2od9h
@user-hj8vd2od9h Ай бұрын
Deff Jurbin: *Plugs ears* "LaLaLaLa"
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 8 күн бұрын
How the hell can the Protestants STILL have never read the "absent from the body" verse?!? 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🙇🏼‍♂️
@alexsalvador3614
@alexsalvador3614 Ай бұрын
Good evening. We all want to follow and put our trust in the Lord Jesus. Can you please explain why the pope said this things. Is he preaching the correct Gospel according to God/Jesus? Pope talking to young boy A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptized. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'” “How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, ‘He was good,'”. And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man. He was a good man. “That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptized. He had a good heart,” Pope Francis said. God is the one who says who goes to heaven,” the pope explained. what kind of heart God has. “What do you think? A father’s heart. God has a dad’s heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptized his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?” Does God abandon his children?” the pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?” The children shouted, “No.” “There, Emanuele, that is the answer,” the pope told the boy. “God surely was proud of your father, because it is easier as a believer to baptize your children than to baptize them when you are not a believer. Surely this pleased God very much.” Pope Francis encouraged Emanuele to “talk to your dad; pray to your dad.” Do you think the pope is telling the truth about what God said in the Bible? John 14:6 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. In the specific sense of being a child of God through faith and relationship with Him, the Bible teaches that this is reserved for those who believe in Jesus Christ. In John 1:12, it says, "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." While God loves all people and desires for everyone to come to Him, it is through faith in Jesus that we become His children and experience the fullness of His love, grace, and salvation. I don’t understand why the pope is saying contrary to what God/Jesus said. He is misleading unbelievers that they can go to the kingdom of God just by being a good man and not by believing in Jesus.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
Stop judging people please you have to stop doing it. Stop being Puritan stop being so self pretentious. God decides not you.
@alexsalvador3614
@alexsalvador3614 Ай бұрын
@@darrylbatchem8985good morning. You are correct God will decide who go to heaven on the basis of who will put their trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. I’m not arguing with anyone. But that’s the problem… God said his answer very clearly. So you choose the pope answer than what Jesus said. In the olden days what the king said the king said. It will never be broken or else your head will gonna be cut off. Remember Jesus is the king of kings and Lord of lords. I cannot explain anymore. If it boils down to 2 choices, it’s very clear we have to follow the words of God/Jesus. Peace.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
@@alexsalvador3614 You just did it again. You really dont know how to stop your persistent attempt to be righteous in God's eyes by condemning others. Thats through and through a Puritan trait as a consequence of an incorrect soteriology. You are not obtaining righteousness through the work of Christ, you are obtaining it by being better than everyone else. Stop doing it.
@alexsalvador3614
@alexsalvador3614 Ай бұрын
@@darrylbatchem8985I apologize. I’m worst sinner than you and other people. I was made righteous in the eyes of God through faith in Jesus Christ. Based on my post… the pope answer is contrary to what Jesus said. Now you have the right to believe the pope and disregard Jesus in this matter. I’m not saying the pope is wrong all the time. He is a good man better than all of us. But he is wrong in the Gospel of Jesus based on the post above. That’s my point. Nothing against you, I know you love the Lord Jesus… let’s all be faithful to him, obedient to his commands and persevere until the end.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
@@alexsalvador3614 This is one thing I completely dislike about protestantism and its completely anti Christian. They claim they are the worst sinner on the planet and then claim to be the most righteous. Thats not Christian sentiment thats arrogant self believing they are being Gods VIP. Its just completely wrong. Calvinism is the most ugliest juxtaposition of two extremities being in conflict with each other and God would never place that rag doll nonsense on humanity. That is human invention. Therefore you are wrong at the very core of your faith system. When you fix that lets talk.
@blackraveninyourarea5682
@blackraveninyourarea5682 Ай бұрын
Omg! When I first saw the title I thought it said Jeff Dunham, you know the comedian with those puppets. 😅😅😅
@alexramirez5562
@alexramirez5562 Ай бұрын
We need to set up a debate that would be a great debate can anybody contact Alex and Jeff
@btgaston
@btgaston Ай бұрын
I love your channel
@cantrait7311
@cantrait7311 Ай бұрын
Alex did real well His first live debate I believe Dr white has done Close to 200
@J-PLeigh8409
@J-PLeigh8409 Ай бұрын
I think Heb 12:23 might help his awful lack of understanding & the same old misreping assertions.......Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect. Which coincides w/ Cor 3:11-15, nm the big ol handful of Purgatorial texts I can add from scripture
@sinchill5424
@sinchill5424 Ай бұрын
I would have had fun with Jeff if I had met him and he started this. One thing I don't allow people to do to me is "bulldoze" their way through a conversation. You made a statement, time you back it up. Case in point, his statement that Catholics don't believe in salvation by Grace. I would have paused him there and said "if that's true, please point that out to me in our Catechism. I would love to see this." Cannot stand bulldozing, cannot stand people making baseless claims about what I believe. Please continue to tell me what I believe, I love it (massive sarcasm).
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
Of course it’s by the Grace of God. How do you receive this Grace is where it gets off track right? How do you attain salvation? Would you state what you believe in regards to attaining salvation? TIA
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 8 күн бұрын
I'm sorry. I almost made it through, but I just couldn't. It's too painful. Durbin was completely disingenuous, and it made it hard for me to respect him anymore.
@ChrisFlanigan777
@ChrisFlanigan777 Ай бұрын
Worth the enormously long, billion year wait.
@TheHorton12
@TheHorton12 Ай бұрын
I’d like to see Jeff vs Jay Dyer
@suzannelangdon
@suzannelangdon Ай бұрын
All this from someone who believes that Our Holy Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Does Not Want everyone to be saved 👀 his beliefs about God are demonic. God Does Not Pick and Chose who He might Save and who He Will Condem to hell for all eternity. God Is Faithful, He Is Just and He Is Love. These protestants who deliberately speak lies, which sadly is a lot, will stand before God one day and answer severely for these lies and slander.
@artisdead2
@artisdead2 Ай бұрын
For the 1:27:22 area “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” is silly of Jeff to say because that implies that no one is in hell lol
@yohannbiimu
@yohannbiimu Ай бұрын
The second thief on the cross acknowledged his sins by admitting his condemnation, while at the same time acknowledging Christ's innocence AND his divinity. He showed faith in Christ and devoutly asked Jesus to save him. This isn't speculation or just something spoken about to refute your beliefs. Christ heard his man's confession of sins and his plea for salvation. It is no different from anyone else who comes to HIM to receive grace for the salvation of our sins. Where in scripture do you get a Biblical doctrine where we ought to confess to a priest *(indeed, where is the office of "priests" mentioned at all in the Epistles)? Indeed, where does it say in John 20:23 anything about "confession"?* YOU are adding "priests" and "confession" into the context of these verses. *This is a presumption, not anything taught to us anywhere in the New Testament.* The context here is about the Apostles preaching the Word of Truth, the Gospel that teaches fallen man about his eternal separation from God, and that the only way we are redeemed is through the life, death, and resurrection of Christ Jesus, by whom we are saved. Those who believe (that their sins condemn them, but by believing that Christ came to save them from their sins, they can live for eternity with Christ) can be honestly said to have been forgiven and accepted into fellowship with other brothers in Christ, but those who reject the Gospel of Christ will be eternally condemned. *Does anyone confessing to a priest NOT receive it if confessing is necessary for the confessor's forgiveness?* Really, does the confessor not receive forgiveness if the priest decides not to grant it to them? If we presume that your interpretation of this verse is correct then people confessing can NOT be forgiven the same as those who ARE forgiven. Is that something that happens when someone confesses to a priest? "Proof texts" are almost always taken out of context, and that is what you are doing here. Again, when you talk about how one appears in "paradise" after death it is in accordance with Roman Catholic texts, not the Gospels and Epistles. *When your church teaches doctrines that are counter to what the Apostles wrote in the earliest decades of the true Body of Christ, then your church is in error.* The doctrines of purgatory and salvation through baptism (indeed, dripping water on an infant cannot save them from their sins, especially when they are incapable of even knowing anything at all) are nowhere to be found in the word of Truth written in the Gospels and Epistles. *Knowing and believing the truth of the Gospel of Christ are what save us, not participating in a religious ceremony.* "Perfected in charity"? Those words are found NOWHERE in scripture. You hear "You ought to read your Bible" so often because your beliefs are not IN THE BIBLE. ALL of your error is based on "the Catholic doctrine of 'X'", rather than THE BIBLE. If "the Catholic doctrine of 'X'" doesn't coincide with the words written by the Apostles of Christ then it is a doctrine of devils. I'm maybe one-eighth through your video and I don't have time to correct your Biblical errors and outright apostasy. I pray you'll realize that the Holy Bible is true because it is by The Word of God one can be saved, not by fallen men of an apostate church.
@CatholicForever83
@CatholicForever83 Ай бұрын
Theologians note that Dismas’ situation was unique. He lived and died under the Old Covenant, and his immediate salvation is seen as an extraordinary act of grace.
@DysmasOfBabylon
@DysmasOfBabylon Ай бұрын
​@CatholicForever83 he didn't have immediate salvation he went into Abraham's bosom, when Jesus ascended to Heaven he opened the Gate to Heaven allowing for others to ascend into Heaven. In Abraham's bosom Jesus preached to the souls there for 3 days, they got all the instruction about what they needed to know then.
@richardbenitez1282
@richardbenitez1282 Ай бұрын
If Durban is in any associated with dr James White than Durban is a jerk. Must be. Unfortunately I’ve listened to dr James White debate what I thought was earnest interest. I also listened to videos fr white has released. He spews this weird hate, hate, hate, hate on anything catholic.
@stevied3400
@stevied3400 4 күн бұрын
Calvinists deny the human will in participating in justification.
@dalejohnson2682
@dalejohnson2682 24 күн бұрын
Did Jesus go to heaven during his death? I thought he went to hades and stayed there until he was resurrected, and that he didn't return to heaven until the ascension. The term paradise I believe would be Abrahams bosom, not heaven. Therefore, Jeff is wrong on several fronts.
@killianmiller6107
@killianmiller6107 Ай бұрын
Every time I hear a Protestant say something like “Jesus has died for my sins and taken the punishment that was due to me” (as if Catholics don’t believe that), I just want to ask them “therefore I don’t have to return the money I stole?” or “therefore I don’t have to restore the reputation of the person I slandered?”
@Wgaither1
@Wgaither1 Ай бұрын
So if a Catholic leaves and comes back to the RCC after 40 years, he has pay the church back the money he stole for not supporting the church for those 40 years right? It’s possible in could be over 100,000 right?
@KillerofGods
@KillerofGods Ай бұрын
​@@Wgaither1That's a false analogy, not being generous and stealing are two different things. Also, one the Catholic church only asks that give what you are able to do. If you aren't in the faith then this wouldn't even apply. Two, when you sin there needs to be some sort of reconciliation and to render your will subservient to that of God's.
@killianmiller6107
@killianmiller6107 Ай бұрын
I know you to be a troll who doesn’t actually care what I say in response, but still, the kind and amount of penance is a pastoral decision. If I would propose anything (though I’m not a confessor), he can make up for his decades of schism by living fully as a Catholic, evangelizing, and starting to regularly practice the precept of “providing for the needs of the church” which doesn’t necessarily mean tithing. And we also have indulgences for precisely these situations where the penance would seem to be too much. Whatever the penance is, the goal is to rectify the sin temporally and help the forgiven man to be a holier person. The problem is rather on YOU who I presume don’t practice any penance, you think you can slander a man, repent, ask god forgiveness, and go on your merry way leaving the man with a damaged reputation. Correct me if I presume wrong.
@Wgaither1
@Wgaither1 Ай бұрын
@@killianmiller6107how does saying three hail Mary’s make up for sinning against a Holy God?
@KillerofGods
@KillerofGods Ай бұрын
@@Wgaither1 I already told you how
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 Ай бұрын
I had to re-evaluate my understanding of soteriology (theology of HOW we are saved) to understand purgatory. There’s a ton of underlying and foundational disagreements before arriving in a place to accept purgatory.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
How are you saved? Can you testify to your religious beliefs?
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 Ай бұрын
@@_ready__ I can and have. But you don’t have ears to hear and I’m not interested in having another fruitless roundabout with you and your heterodoxical beliefs.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@vinciblegaming6817 what does the catechism teach in regards to following the law / the 10 commandments / the ministration of death? The RCC says you must follow the ministration of death to receive life! Really folks. Sad deal for the 1.4 billion plus and growing. In spiritual matters the majority is always wrong. There will always be a remnant. Grace and peace my friend.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@vinciblegaming6817 are you proof that the RCC is a works religion? Do you need a little fire cleanse yourself in purgatory? So it is all about what you do and not ALL about what He did? It’s a false and deceptive religion only able to be put together so masterfully by the dev ville …. No way that men could string this stuff together so well. Get out my friend
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@vinciblegaming6817 if I was the the little g god I would create your organization to resemble the truth to the ignorant majority.
@NoahBradon
@NoahBradon Ай бұрын
Smart you are.
@UnityWChrist
@UnityWChrist Ай бұрын
Amen brother it's sad you even have to come out here and correct these uneducated pastors....
@artisdead2
@artisdead2 Ай бұрын
Review Isaiah Saldivar’s claims on Catholics next please 🙏🏻
@johnknight2012
@johnknight2012 Ай бұрын
2 Peter 3:8 A day with the Lord is like a Thousand years. 🤔 Luke 23:43 Today you'll be with me in paradise 🤔 There's a good amount of time for purification. ⌚🔥
@comradecosmonaut563
@comradecosmonaut563 Ай бұрын
So the going rate for a life of thievery and an act of Blasphemy against Christ incarnate is a thousand years of suffering, good to know and glad to have a benchmark.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
@@comradecosmonaut563 Nonsensical post. I have read so many of those tonight.
@eamonob84
@eamonob84 Ай бұрын
I like Jeff Durbin’s pro life work and his conversations with Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses. However, I find his discussions with Catholics disingenuous. He and James White are educated enough to know what Catholic teaching is at this point, so there is really no excuse for strawmen or picking Catholics who are not particularly skilled at answering him. I just find it dishonest of him.
@manny75586
@manny75586 Ай бұрын
Jeff is a unique weasel. I'm sorry. He preaches a false Gospel. It's easily and simply shown with his silly OSAS theology. His assertion is that no sin will ever put him outside of the Lord's grace. But Matthew 12:32 explicitly states that there is a sin that will do that and is not forgiveable (i.e. blaspheming the Holy Spirit). So with a single Bible verse, wesee his false Gospel fall. Curious that he quoted the verse regarding false prophets as I would suggest he repeat it while looking in a mirror.
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Ай бұрын
Reformed Presbyterian here. If you believe in the Niceene creed, then you are a Christian. To be fair, most Baptist don't even believe in the basics of the faith. The Southern Baptist convention literally did not adopt the Niceene creed. Please don't blame is for our Baptist friends. We definitely disagree with Catholics on many things, but you are our brothers and sisters in the faith. His Calvinistic Baptist theology, strays away from the actual Reformed faith. They have a weak view of the sacraments and they tend to look to their own faith instead of the works of God (the sacraments).... Calvinism without sacraments is not Calvinism. Baptist theology is weak.
@GabrielPereira-hm1cz
@GabrielPereira-hm1cz Ай бұрын
Then, only Catholic and Orthodox and maybe Anglicans have a claim to being christians. The last section of the creed excludes most protestants "One holy Catholic and Apostolic Church". Obviously you are going to change the meaning of "Catholic" and "Apostolic", but the decrees of the council and the understanding of the time is of a visible universal church with apostolic succession by the laying of hands through Bishops. Things most protestants can't hold. At least the baptists were honest and did not accept the creed.
@govitman
@govitman Ай бұрын
I am just curious, what "basics of faith" do the Baptist or Southern Baptist not believe in? If you make the claim at least give a few examples of what "basics of faith" you are revering to.
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Ай бұрын
@@govitman Baptism regenerates and saves and communion gives grace. That's 2 big ones, but I would like to clarify that although I think many Baptists are getting close to heresy or have crossed that line are still Christians. I don't decide who God saves.
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Ай бұрын
@@GabrielPereira-hm1cz Depends what you mean by one holy Catholic and apostolic means. Early church fathers did have disagreement over what that meant.
@leviwilliams9601
@leviwilliams9601 Ай бұрын
@@GabrielPereira-hm1cz Also, thr distinction between elder and bishop were debated and used interchangeably.
@jpanduezadlf
@jpanduezadlf Ай бұрын
1. Jesus said "today you will be *with me* in Paradise". 2. Later on, He said "touch me not, for I still haven't gone to the Father". So, either Jesus was lying at least one of these points, or the "today" at the first point doesn't mean literally "today"
@Cklert
@Cklert Ай бұрын
Paradise refers to Abraham's Bosom. Not Heaven.
@jpanduezadlf
@jpanduezadlf Ай бұрын
@@Cklert where do you get that from? Even so, people in Abraham's bosom still go through purgatory after Jesus took them out of it. But Paradise and Heaven and the Kingdom are interchangeable and there is no indication anywhere, not even in Early Christian documents, that Paradise refers to Abraham's bosom and not Heaven. Abraham's bosom is a cold place, it's nothing like a Paradise, in fact, it's very close to purgatory. The people in there were apart from God, and therefore, not fully happy. They knew their destiny, which was being taken to Paradise by Christ, but they were not fully happy.
@mayorofbasedville7680
@mayorofbasedville7680 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, Jeff Durbin, the guy who hangs out around Mormon temples and tries to lure random unprepared passers-by into gotcha conversations that he can film and use as content for his KZbin channel. Between his well rehearsed Gish Galloping and his handful of go-to proof texts, he seems to always miraculously emerge the victor. A real modern day hero of the faith.
@Joker22593
@Joker22593 Ай бұрын
It's really upsetting how explicitly protestant the Abolition movement is. I can't in good concience sign their main position document because the very last position in the document is the protestant solas.
@jesussaves6625
@jesussaves6625 Ай бұрын
A lot of people, my previous self included, just do not understand Catholicism very well, and it leads so many away from the Faith that it is sad.
@EatMyKos
@EatMyKos Ай бұрын
The real question though is... Is he who is saved will endure this video to the end? or He who endures to the end of this video will be saved? Dun... dun... dunnnnnnn 🤣
@johnchung6777
@johnchung6777 Ай бұрын
I’m at a loss of thought with Protestants who don’t believe that in order to believe in Jesus Christ one must first be taught through scriptures about how to believe in Jesus Christ and literally receive him in the sacraments in order to help each person to increase and build their faith through Jesus Christ who helps those who work hard to believe and understand Jesus and his One true Church that Jesus is in.
@aane-wc6uk
@aane-wc6uk Ай бұрын
Thx for reaction on this trying to show chatolic bad. I have said write away, he discussed this as he has learned everything and give it like waterfall, so he can got A + from teacher 😂😂😂
@aaronsmith5904
@aaronsmith5904 Ай бұрын
Was that a purposeful pun that after saying those who endure to the end will be saved, you started to say how "I appreciate everyone who made it to the end"? 😂
@bbqbros3648
@bbqbros3648 Ай бұрын
Or the 19 year old LDS missionaries who have have very little formal training
@aaronsmith5904
@aaronsmith5904 Ай бұрын
To translate "growth in righteousness" into reformed language, you can say "experiential righteousness" I have heard James White use this terminology.
@MichElle-zc9tu
@MichElle-zc9tu 28 күн бұрын
Care to understand what Albert Einstein commented on The Catholic Church? Read it on Time magazine page 38, 23rd December, 1940.
@Nilunam
@Nilunam Ай бұрын
1- what is paradise and what is heaven. 2- Jesus only ascended to heaven after His resurrection and only after doing all these other things on earth and Hades before ascension.
@aane-wc6uk
@aane-wc6uk Ай бұрын
Somehow, as if lot of evangelical are turning chatolic lately in America, so now their apologetic are attacking chatolic dogmas to save their churches
@James22426
@James22426 Ай бұрын
Great explanation about initial justification
@RedRoosterRoman
@RedRoosterRoman Ай бұрын
I tried to watch this. I really did. It just hurts
@CC_Foster
@CC_Foster Ай бұрын
Serious question, not rhetorical… does anyone have a problem with the Pope authorizing: “A Catholic priest can bless a gay or other unmarried couple as long as it is not a formal liturgical blessing and does not give the impression that the Catholic Church is blessing the union as if it were a marriage”. Or the Pope during an interview when asked about Homosexuality in the Priesthood responded “Who am I to judge?”, which is tacit approval of homosexual Priests. Seriously, no one has a problem with that? I’m not trying to degrade Catholicism, I’m only asking about this issue because it could seriously impact the Church. It’s tearing many Protestant denominations apart already.
@Heartforheaven
@Heartforheaven Ай бұрын
Yes, read about sedevacantists, sspx, CRMI
@calmontes651
@calmontes651 Ай бұрын
It isn’t hard to understand that we can bless people but not their sin so the answer is most Catholics understand what the Pope means, even if KZbin or the media have a field day with it. It will tear up denominations but not the Catholic Church, or in the words of Belloc: “The Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine - but for unbelievers the proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight”. Hilaire Belloc
@JohnBoyX570
@JohnBoyX570 Ай бұрын
You should watch the Voice of Reason / James White debate since both of these points are brought up and responded to. Also keep in mind Popes are not always good shepherds, that does not mean they are not appointed by God. As king David so often said about Saul, "He is God's annointed one". Lastly, one aspect of the magisterium is the Sensus Fidelium (or the sense of the Faithful) meaning we have the Holy Spirit working in us and are not bound to follow the Pope in everything he teaches.
@oldmovieman7550
@oldmovieman7550 Ай бұрын
I have a lot of respect for pastor Durbin and his apologetics against abortion and Mormons is top notch. But he needs to learn about Catholicism from someone other than James White.
@MAMRetro
@MAMRetro Ай бұрын
It’s the same old regurgitated arguments that are at least 400 years old. You see them in Tony Alamo and Jack Chick’s cartoons. The skeletons in the monastery, the nuns with lascivious lives, li the Spanish Inquisition, blah blah blah. It’s the same regurgitated trash over and over again. Very very sad shit.
@paddyjoe68
@paddyjoe68 Ай бұрын
We missed you welcome back
@rafecolii
@rafecolii Ай бұрын
I watched to the very end.
@stellar6072
@stellar6072 Ай бұрын
it's amazing how you think john 21 think it has to do with your popes and priests. HE'S TALKING TO THE DISCIPLES. YOU GUYS AREN'T THE DISCIPLES. Drop the pride.
@tryingnottobeasmartass757
@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Ай бұрын
Drop YOUR pride. Jesus was talking to the Apostles, and, as the early Church informs us, they delegated their authority to their successors, the bishops.
@stellar6072
@stellar6072 Ай бұрын
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 ironic message coming from someone with your name. i expect nothing less from a catholic. not worth responding to beyond this. good luck.
@tryingnottobeasmartass757
@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Ай бұрын
@@stellar6072, I'm not a Catholic.
@stellar6072
@stellar6072 Ай бұрын
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 so you're a troll. got it.
@tryingnottobeasmartass757
@tryingnottobeasmartass757 Ай бұрын
@@stellar6072, no, I'm a convert to the Eastern Orthodox Church from Evangelicalism who is sick and tired of people like you who make arrogantly ignorant and intellectually dishonest claims about the Catholic Church. And to top it off, in your arrogant ignorance, you tell Catholics to swallow THEIR pride, and then, O Hypocrisy, have the GALL to get offended when I tell you to swallow yours. Grow up.
@HunnysPlaylists
@HunnysPlaylists Ай бұрын
All those against The Church have the same tactics.
@HunnysPlaylists
@HunnysPlaylists Ай бұрын
they act like vicious competitors, trying to take what is God's and what is Ours.
@FedericoBautista-n2v
@FedericoBautista-n2v Ай бұрын
Yes people you gotta be careful about going back to the sources to see if the Roman Catholic Church with all its dogmas looks similar to the apostolic church found in the earliest documents namely the New Testament as well as the first centuries of church history.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
That I did. That is why I am Catholic. I also did something more interesting I went back to the Old Testament and that is why I am Catholic.
@Cklert
@Cklert Ай бұрын
The Didache, Ignatius of Antioch, and Irenaeus say some pretty Catholic things that are pretty alien to Protestants.
@darrylbatchem8985
@darrylbatchem8985 Ай бұрын
@@Cklert Protestants have a short term memory. Catholics have a long term memory because that is our history and we can embrace it without that awkward attempt to try and link the apostolic history to ourselves.
@seanmcelroy9774
@seanmcelroy9774 Ай бұрын
When someone outside the church that I talk to that believes in faith alone, I bring up the rich man and Lazarus and really emphasize on why the rich man was damned. Sometimes they will go into the faith thing or whatever but I focus on what it says about him not doing any corporal works of mercy and that is why he was damned. This is one of a few I use but it’s one they at least think about and don’t just try to one up me with other verses.
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
Have you sold all of your possessions?
@seanmcelroy9774
@seanmcelroy9774 Ай бұрын
Why in the world would I do that, I have a family to provide for. But what I have done is detached from those in my heart and I am prepared to lose everything at the drop of a dime, because all I have is what is has been given. And just like Job, all of it can be taken away and I have to be detached. It would be very imprudent to sell my stuff though
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@seanmcelroy9774 isn’t that what you are quoting? What did He tell the rich man? What did they practice in Acts? Don’t say they didn’t do it? Can we just randomly quote scripture as examples and not understand the Bible? How do you attain salvation is my question for you! So far you don’t understand the simple things. Do you understand salvation?
@_ready__
@_ready__ Ай бұрын
@@seanmcelroy9774 and you are doing works for salvation? Interesting. Are you proof rhat Catholicism is a works religion? Grace and peace
@seanmcelroy9774
@seanmcelroy9774 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@_ready__bro I am using the rich man and Lazarus to show that your actions do matter. The rich man went to hell because he completely ignored Lazarus and didn’t do any type of work of mercy. That passage says nothing about selling all of his stuff, but it did focus on helping the poor. Not just neglecting him. And to answer your question, I do works out of love. I love God and I want to put my Catholicism to action. I would be a complete hypocrite to just talk and no action. But it all matters about my intentions and my heart. What matters is giving 100% to God in all I do, it’s about the intent. Think about the lady with the 2 coins. Jesus was so pleased because she gave all she could, it wasn’t about the amount externally, but it was about the amount internally
@polodown4729
@polodown4729 Ай бұрын
Amen! 🙏 Great job. Tearing down all strong holds.
@michaelahue6830
@michaelahue6830 Ай бұрын
Nothing torn down. Only laying more bricks on an establishment that will be cast out come that day. I pray you aren't still in connection with it come that day.
@polodown4729
@polodown4729 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahue6830an establishment established by Jesus
@breakthroughmadeinusa9184
@breakthroughmadeinusa9184 Ай бұрын
FSSPX!
@danielpiselli
@danielpiselli Ай бұрын
Yo
@sansebastiansj
@sansebastiansj Ай бұрын
It's funny how you accuse him of strawmaning, yet you're doing the same thing. Catholics do this all the time. For example. Where does the word of God teaches that there are two levels of sin? Mortal and venial? Because Bible tells us that the wages of sin is death. Which sin? All of them. Also. This distinction doesn't even make saense: "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."So when you ask for forgiveness of your lesser venial sin, in fact, you are guilty of all of them. Yet you don't ask for forgivenss of the mortal ones. It doesn't hold water, my brother.
@thecatechumen
@thecatechumen Ай бұрын
1 John 5:16-17 🙂
@sansebastiansj
@sansebastiansj Ай бұрын
@@thecatechumen This is talking about the unforgivable sin aginst the holy spirit which leads to death. Ethernal death. Separation from God in hell. Every other can be forgiven, but they are equal to each other. And we can't die in them (loose our salvation) since Christ payed the price for them. Plus. If you think this shows two levels of sin, on what basis do you even establish which sins are mortal, when even the Bible doesn't specify this?
@WC3isBetterThanReforged
@WC3isBetterThanReforged Ай бұрын
@@sansebastiansj When coupled with James 5:19-20 (My brothers, if anyone among you should stray from the truth and someone bring him back, he should know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins), we can see that there are mortal sins that can also be forgiven.
@robyoung5023
@robyoung5023 Ай бұрын
I used to go to a Catholic Church not once did they preach salvation all I heard was Mary saints that’s about it more stayed of saints and Mary than Jesus I got fed up
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic Ай бұрын
And I used to go to several evangelical churches and all I heard was eternal security and antiCatholicism so I stopped going because I get Jesus and salvation 💯% at every Mass.
@robyoung5023
@robyoung5023 Ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic mass does not save u 😂 they are all pagan rituals hence Roman Catholic it’s all intertwined
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic Ай бұрын
@@robyoung5023I guess only in your world worshipping God communally is useless! Please stop with your uneducated insults.
@Cklert
@Cklert Ай бұрын
Why are you so clearly lying?
@robyoung5023
@robyoung5023 Ай бұрын
@@Cklert about what
@ANDY-h6m
@ANDY-h6m Ай бұрын
This seems to always be the Roman Catholic response to criticism. The RCC seems to be more interested in owning the protestants than holding to the word of God.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic Ай бұрын
As a Catholic Christian we know we have a Divinely Inspired interpreter of Sacred Scripture, it's the Magisterium, the teaching authority of the Catholic Church. It's in the Bible!
@alexsalvador3614
@alexsalvador3614 Ай бұрын
Good evening. We all love the Lord Jesus and we need to follow his teachings in the Bible. Can you please explain the pope response here… his a part of the magisterium.. Pope talking to young boy A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptized. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'” “How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, ‘He was good,'”. And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man. He was a good man. “That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptized. He had a good heart,” Pope Francis said. God is the one who says who goes to heaven,” the pope explained. what kind of heart God has. “What do you think? A father’s heart. God has a dad’s heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptized his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?” Does God abandon his children?” the pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?” The children shouted, “No.” “There, Emanuele, that is the answer,” the pope told the boy. “God surely was proud of your father, because it is easier as a believer to baptize your children than to baptize them when you are not a believer. Surely this pleased God very much.” Pope Francis encouraged Emanuele to “talk to your dad; pray to your dad.” Do you think the pope is telling the truth about what God said in the Bible? John 14:6 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. In the specific sense of being a child of God through faith and relationship with Him, the Bible teaches that this is reserved for those who believe in Jesus Christ. In John 1:12, it says, "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." While God loves all people and desires for everyone to come to Him, it is through faith in Jesus that we become His children and experience the fullness of His love, grace, and salvation. I don’t understand why the pope is saying contrary to what God/Jesus said. He is misleading unbelievers that they can go to the kingdom of God just by being a good man and not by believing in Jesus.
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