The Ancient Aliens Show has definitely propagated these stories about similar Flood Accounts from different civilizations. As far as similar flood stories, this makes perfect sense. After the Tower of Babel, the people still had the same history so they told them in different languages.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've been thinking that as well. They likely had a common starting point but once everyone was separated it would make sense that some of the stories would change some as different cultures developed, and as far as I can tell in the Old Testament God was no longer appearing to anyone but the Hebrew people for awhile.
@Paul-zf8ob4 ай бұрын
Since all mankind came from Noah and his sons, every culture has a portion of the ancient past including the flood. The scripture explains it correctly if you study it.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would agree with that. It does seem to be evidence of a common origin.
@u2cancatchme4 ай бұрын
Yah name is Yahuah and His precious Sons name is Yahusha
@TylerHabig4 ай бұрын
I think it’s important to recognize the other, similar stories outside of our traditional Biblical sources. I appreciate your emphasis on oral tradition because it makes these stories like a game of Telephone where the source material gets distorted over time for whatever reason (language, politics, culture, etc.) I believe the stories are well-intended and the original is holy, but we have a translation that is imperfect and confusing today. Studying the Bible by itself my not bring full enlightenment for Christians or aspiring-Christians, but in conjunction with prayer and reflection, there is a lot of good the Bible can still do. I think this is where many religious organizations fall short in explaining the Bible is that it’s ‘perfect in every way and how dare you questions it- you clearly don’t understand it well enough’ which is unlike how Jesus would actually approach non-Believers according to my my understanding of the New Testament. I’m lucky to not only have this channel where I can exercise my spiritual thoughts , but I actually found a local church that supports these kinds of questions and assertions because it’s more about my relationship with Jesus than the particulars. Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Thank you I appreciate that! Yes, I think a lot of churches are afraid to acknowledge the complexities of the text, translation issues, etc. In a way, I can somewhat understand that because it's a complex topic that can leave people confused, but I think avoiding it also leaves people unsatisfied and filled with even more doubt. I think it's more transparent to talk about them than to avoid them which I've often seen backfire. I think the way "inspiration" is taught today contributes to the confusion too. Like, does inspired have to mean every word was protected? I figure once humans get their hands on anything it will inevitably become imperfect, it's just part of how we are. But even the worst translation mistake I've ever found hasn't scared me into thinking the Bible's message isn't true or anything like that. I don't find the changes or translation issues to be as scary as they're sometimes made out to be. It's a tricky subject to navigate for sure!
@Fuad-Elijah4 ай бұрын
This video presents an interesting perspective on the discoveries of 19th-century archaeological writings, which describe events similar to those found in the Bible, such as the flood story, the creation story, and accounts of giants. The video suggests that before these discoveries, there were two main assumptions: 1. The Bible is the oldest written source. 2. The Bible is the only written source that talks about such events, with this knowledge given by God. After these discoveries, the video claims that new assumptions emerged: 1. Since we have discovered writings that predate the Bible, these stories are just myths. 2. The Bible writers copied these ancient stories. Additionally, it is suggested that if these stories were attributed to foreign gods rather than the God of the Bible, it confirms that each culture created the same myths and attributed them to their local gods, making the Jewish accounts just one among many. I find these new assumptions illogical and based on incorrect conclusions. First, the Bible's story of the flood was global within the Mesopotamian region, where ancient civilizations thrived, meaning it affected many cities and kingdoms in this area. Even places that were not directly affected knew about these horrific floods, which destroyed many cities, and these accounts were likely transmitted orally from generation to generation. The fact that many ancient cultures talk about such an event actually adds to the credibility of the Bible's story. For example, it has been discovered that the Egyptians recorded plagues similar to those described in the Bible. The erroneous assumption is that these people must have written about myths and that the Bible writers simply copied these myths. The logical assumption is that the fact these plagues and events, which the Bible claims affected people, were actually talked about by those people means that the Bible story is even more credible because it has supporting evidence. We also know that the Bible, along with the Book of Enoch, speaks about the fallen angels who took human wives and created an evil race of giants, half spiritual and half human. These giants had superpowers and superior knowledge to humans and deceived people by attributing the creation of the universe, mankind, and God's punishment to themselves, claiming they were gods. The flood destroyed most of them, but some survived, as mentioned later in the Bible (e.g., Genesis 6:4). These fallen angels (demons) deceived people in the past, continue to do so in the present, and, as foretold in the Bible, will deceive in the future. One prime and recent example we Christians believe is Islam. We believe that Gabriel was a demon who claimed to be an angel and told Muhammad that Allah (a demon) is the god that created the universe, mankind, and performed supernatural events like the flood. As Jesus said in Matthew 24, during the pre-tribulation time there will be false prophets, and after the tribulation, there will be false prophets and false Christs (the two beasts of Revelation). Revelation mentions that they will perform wonders with the power of Satan to deceive many, forcing people to worship Satan as these two liars claim he is god (Revelation 13:13-14). The Bible also states that foreign gods are actually demons and our real enemies are the evil spiritual forces (Ephesians 6:12). The fallen angels deceived humanity in the past and will continue to do so in the future by attributing the creation and supernatural events to false demon gods. This explains the origins of ancient religions where fallen angels created and deceived humanity. In conclusion, these archaeological discoveries, which describe events recorded by the people who were affected by them, give more authority to the Bible rather than diminishing it. This is the logical conclusion and the proper analysis of the archaeological evidence.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
I think we're both actually trying to say the same thing, but in different ways. Hopefully my position will be a little more clear when I get to a video on the Babel story. I'm not suggesting the Bible copied from other myths, I do hold the opinion that the similarities add credibility to the Bible. What I think happened was that originally there was one version of the story transmitted orally through storytelling up until the people were scattered at Babel. At that point, people were geographically separated. At that point a couple things happened. First, God began primarily working with only one nation (Israel) until the New Testament period. With everyone else mostly cut off from communication with God, it would make sense that they were somewhat left to their own imagination and the story may have evolved into several versions. But in addition, Deuteronomy 32:8-9 and 43 mention that angels (called gods in the ESV) were assigned to watch over the nations. Some of the angels became corrupt (Psalm 82) and tempted humans into worshipping them. This seems to be how ancient Jews understood the numerous religions in the world. Where Genesis factors in is that chapters 1-11 had been passed down orally for generations, but was not written down until after the Sumerian and Babylonian stories were written down (scholars think during the exile because of names, places and references it contains). So what the writer of Genesis 1-11 did was write the Hebrew stories in a way that contained "links" to the myths of other nations as a way to comment on what the original story was; a way to "set the record straight.". This video was really designed for the skeptic to help them move from thinking the Bible stole from mythology to seeing the links to Sumerian and Babylonian myth in a different way that does not take away from the credibility of the Bible. I intend to make videos on the Babel story (origin of world religions) and cover the reason other nations have other gods (which would have been equated with rebelling angels, or eventually called demons). Anyways, I hope that helps clarify my thought process. It seems to me like we're actually looking at it pretty much the same way. It was a real challenge to make the script clear for this video so I understand why it might seem confusing. It took me a long time to process all of that, but in the end, it did make me view the Bible as even more credible than before. I hope that will be the case for others who watch this video as well.
@markoantoinehadrian72864 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries Demons are not rebelling angels. They are disembodied spirits of all the Nephilim and their descendants who were destroyed in the past...and who are yet to be destroyed at present and the future before the Judgment Day. The rebelling angels (or Fallen Ones) are the Watchers who descended on Mt. Hermon, plotted and did their dirty deeds, fathering the Nephilim. The more powerful angels (or divine beings) who are currently governing the nations of the earth and are being worshipped as false gods (the pantheons of all the existing cultures) are the Thrones, Dominions, Powers who were assigned by the conspiring and rebellious "masterminds" sitting in Yahweh's Divine Council...they will be all discovered and judged on the Final Day.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Correct, what I mean to say is demons are the children of the rebelling angels, at least that seems to be how ancient Jews saw things.
@orpheemulemo80534 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries I hate when christians say that it wasn't a Global flood but in mesopotamia inspiringphylosophy made this mess The Bible when saying Global clearly means surrounding the entire world and it Makes sense because the Bible flood says water rose higher than mountains and it was constantly raining revelation compares the flood to christ second coming what do we know about christ second coming is it effects everyone
@Numenor74 ай бұрын
I agree with the point the presenter is trying to make but he totally misses the nail. All these stories are similar because they share a common origin. That's it. Point blank. Thousands of years ago there were no copyright or plagiarism laws. There's no such thing as "stealing" from previous stories because even those stories were hundreds or thousands of years old and had even at that point been told and retold repeatedly. The point is there's a common origin for all of them. It doesn't matter if one was (according to our discoveries at least) recorded prior to another. What matters is that they agree and tell the same narrative. The many commonalities between ancient origin "stories" or "myths" should not lead you to wonder which is "first", but rather, why do these commonalities exist? Similar stories repeated from south America to Asia should logically lead to the same conclusion: all these stories had the same origin. Throughout ancient history those stories were passed down through oral tradition. Clearly there's going to be differences. That shouldn't distract from the point that the basic narrative is the same and exists across cultures around the world. In short: why does it matter who wrote it first when we're talking about history before writing? What matters is the similarities in the stories, not the differences.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
I agree that the point is the commonalities. I do personally think the Old Testament story was the original starting point but it wasn't written down until later. I wish I had stated that a little more clearly. I just think it can't be definitively proven at least not with physical evidence which one originated first, it's just a matter of faith. But I personally don't need that kind of evidence, as for me, the story in Genesis feels like a complete explanation of why the world is the way it is. Oh well. Hopefully my point came across!
@Numenor74 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries I got it! Thank you! 😊
@Blakblooded4 ай бұрын
Ironically, the first thing that happened after the invention of writing, was plagiarism 🤣
@RUGRAF-rf8fi4 ай бұрын
Lies are the devils work
@matthayes5334 ай бұрын
I love the way CS Lewis puts it in Pilgrims Regress: God sent Israel Words while sending everyone else pictures.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
That's an awesome quote! I hadn't heard that before but that's really interesting
@matthayes5334 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries chat gpt failed so i looked it up myself. here is the passage: ‘No one is born able to read: so that the starting point for all of us must be a picture and not the Rules. And there are more than you suppose who are illiterate all their lives, or who, at the best, never learn to read well.’ ‘And for these people the pictures are the right thing?’ ‘I would not quite say that. The pictures alone are dangerous, and the Rules alone are dangerous. That is why the best thing of all is to find Mother Kirk at the very beginning, and to live from infancy with a third thing which is neither the Rules nor the pictures and which was brought into the country by the Landlord’s Son. That, I say, is the best: never to have known the quarrel between the Rules and the pictures. But it very rarely happens. The Enemy’s agents are everywhere at work, spreading illiteracy in one district and blinding men to the pictures in another. Even where Mother Kirk is nominally the ruler men can grow old without knowing how to read the Rules. Her empire is always crumbling. But it never quite crumbles: for as often as men become Pagans again, the Landlord again sends them pictures and stirs up sweet desire and so leads them back to Mother Kirk even as he led the actual Pagans long ago. There is, indeed, no other way.’
@matthayes5334 ай бұрын
some more: ‘And then the Pagans made mistakes. They would keep on trying to get the same picture again: and if it didn’t come, they would make copies of it for themselves. Or even if it did come they would try to get out of it not desire but satisfaction. But you must know all this.’ ‘Yes, yes, indeed. But what came of it?’ ‘They went on making up more and more stories for themselves about the pictures, and then pretending the stories were true. and finally, The Shepherds could read: that is the thing to remember about them. And because they could read, they had from the Landlord, not pictures but Rules.’ ‘But who wants Rules instead of Islands?’ Its a great book if you've never read, these passages are apparently in or near chapter 8 "history's words"
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Great stuff. I should read that! I've only read Mere Christianity and The Problem of Pain so far. But I enjoyed both!
@matthayes5334 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries My favorite is "The Great Divorce" closest comparison to the story is "Dante's Inferno" but of course, Lewis is more concise and humorous/entertaining.
@dale42552 ай бұрын
The Israelites were not a nation until 1200 years after the flood and then they did not include any of the non-Hebrew writers with the Job section.
@RatdogDRB3 ай бұрын
Another consideration. Hebrew was based on an oral tradition. Were the writings of the Old Testament books commissioned by God to set the record straight as to what was being propagated in written form which was becoming popular in the ancient world? To speak a lie is one thing, to write it down and proclaim it was the accepted narrative? That's a whole different game. God's ways have always involved speaking forth truth. At some point in time, was there a need to have it put into writing to set the record straight. I'm fine with that, and my faith in the Bible remains. God bless you in your efforts, young man.
@breweryministries3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I think God probably saw a need to have the message about Creation in written form, and inspired the writer to put the story in writing. Its very possible it was written down before in some form but the manuscript didn't survive to today. Lots of possibilities I guess but none of them are cause for concern about the integrity of Genesis 1-11 in my opinion. I'm very comfortable with Genesis even if it was written down after the Sumerian story. Genesis 1-11 is one of my favorite sections of the entire Bible. So many layers packed into just those chapters!
@matthayes5334 ай бұрын
which batman movie/cartoon was that myth quote from?
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
I think it was from The Doom That Came To Gotham
@Legendwill8764 ай бұрын
This story abt annunaki's & them being gods and creating humanity is just getting out of hand. This is pushing as humans to worship different gods, and it wont matter in the end. This hoodwinking should stop, even the annunaki's were created, and they believed and they also knew their was a much bigger creator of all universe, the anunnaki just tried to breed new creature not creat. If those stories ever existed.
@RahelJovani4 ай бұрын
Same story written by different cultures. That is all. One demon is a god for other culture.
@crod64314 ай бұрын
Are the tests to determine the age of documents accurate? Are they using Carbon Dating? If so, I've read that they're only accurate for a few thousand years and definitely can not be used for rocks.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Yes, there are at least 12 different ways that they can use. The more ways, the more accurate the date is. There's ink analysis, handwriting analysis, linguistics, sometimes they can tell what era something is from by the binding and materials used, thermoluminescence which measures the light emitted when exposed to heat, comparative analysis, and a few others. So if they can find other ways to date it that match the carbon date, there's a good chance they're in the ballpark
@jamesgomez63494 ай бұрын
Can you do a video explaining John 21: 21-22?
@Erin-ray4 ай бұрын
That is a curious statement isn’t it. Only Jesus can know the full answer, but considering the text around it, I would say it’s worth considering….that we all have different roles in this story…different responsibilities, and those …in their individual uniqueness are themselves a holy covenant with Christs mission. Weather human or angel…we should remember to not compare our role/responsibilities in this with another servant. If we do, it could be a form of coveting. Example- a servant that is in prisoned knowing they will put to death, then questioning Gods plan, bc they see a fellow servant that is on a different path etc. It all comes down to trust…and not comparing our walk with the walk of someone else. (Potentially) but I suggest you continue to pray on it and evaluate if the spirit continually supports that concept. God bless @jamesgomez6349
@jamesgomez63494 ай бұрын
Well said. Thank you, and may the most high God bless your life.
@ozone51503 ай бұрын
The devil is known for being the great deceiver, so any way the devil can try to discredit God’s word he will!
@markoantoinehadrian72864 ай бұрын
The works of Dr. Michael Heiser on The Divine Council has the final say on all these issues.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
His work is amazing. I took classes from him a couple years ago. What he taught is a huge influence on my perspective
@markoantoinehadrian72864 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries You're a very lucky Christian, brother...how i wish i had such an opportunity of a lifetime. Bless you, brother. 😎
@TheProfessorPatti4 ай бұрын
@@breweryministries How fortunate you were able to learn from Dr. Heiser. I was quite upset to learn of his passing as I didn't know he was sick until a couple of months before his death & didn't learn of his passing until about a month after. He was quite young, but he fought well as 2 years with pancreatic cancer is an astounding fight as usually it takes people within months. This is the first video of yours I have found. I am impressed & will be watching more. Peace.Grace.Love.
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, that was really heartbreaking. He died the same week I completed my third class with him. It hit me pretty hard too, his work was life changing. Welcome to the channel!
@Paul-zf8ob4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Mike got me back on the correct path away from Sumerian and ancient alien nonsense!
@stramamindale75744 ай бұрын
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. John:1:1-2 The Word existed before mythology.
@Blakblooded4 ай бұрын
No, in the beginning there was a bang, a pretty big one, but you do you with your fairy tales.
@stramamindale75744 ай бұрын
What is the big bang theory? It is a theory. I believe the word of god and you believe theories but,hey, you do you. Theory: an unproved assumption : CONJECTURE
@TheProfessorPatti4 ай бұрын
@@Blakblooded Because you know everything.
@ugonnaaugustineenwereakuh82264 ай бұрын
Big bang theory is hog wash with inconsistencies.
@ianbrewster89344 ай бұрын
None of this is plagiarism and I think people are getting this wrong. Where the Levant is which is pretty much Israel Jordan Lebanon and lower parts of Syria it is a crossroad for several cultures and empires. Concord reconquered and Concord again throughout history. It's stupid not to think that there's going to be crossed fertilization of ideas. As people bring their stories back and forth people take those stories run with them and add their own twist to it. Anyone who lives near body of water eventually will encounter a flood probably a major one and a story will probably come out of that. That is normal.... That's like saying every culture pretty much around the world has stories of dragon like creatures or the undead does that mean zombies and vampires and dragons are real. Course not. Hebrews were influenced by other cultures and other religions. They ook their mythology and rolled it up into other powerful belief from other empires and other religions in the area. What happens to this day. You can take a story like Star Wars and see how it was influenced by King Arthur and the knights of the round table. The Bible is not history it's a book that was put together featuring stories mythology Legends laws poetry and some history. Together with a vague narrative thread.
@shawnfreeman19324 ай бұрын
Wow dude! your video got crushed in the comments 😂
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Lol yeah, I figured that might happen with this particular subject. People can get very passionate about it and there are several competing perspectives
@aripiispanen93494 ай бұрын
♪♫♥ - Very Interesting, thank you for sharing this - 𒀭
@breweryministries4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@citizen_morgan74444 ай бұрын
Nothing NEW here! Same OLD FOOLISH TALES past from ONE FOOL to ANOTHER FOOL (i.e. the CURRENT FOOL being the NARRATOR of this video).