Behringer RD-9 vs Roland Boutique TR-09

[@basiledaudet5774]

This is the best comparison video I’ve seen ! The other people don’t try to match the sounds but the knobs position !

[@JamesVytas]

Exactly! Who cares if the knobs positions match the sound. It’s whether the sound itself is comparable and then maybe workflow and functionality.

[@basiledaudet5774]

@@JamesVytas absolutely !

[@AdamJayTechnoElectro]

The additional parameters of the RD-9 give it some serious appeal. Whenever I work with 909 kicks, I typically use samples so that I can tune it to the track. RD-9 gets over this with the added tune parameter, beyond the 909/09’s standard pitch envelope. Thanks for your recent rd-9 videos!

[@exsiderurgica]

Thanks man! Yes I think the kick tuning same as RD8 is a great feature!

[@_EightySix]

The TR09 has tuning.

[@prod_zordu]

@@_EightySixoh yeah ?

[@atommachine]

Tunning, Pan, decay, sub menu.​@@prod_zordu

[@SamplingKid]

RD-9 sounds brighter and better??? also more features?

[@ilmondodifaxe8216]

Quello che non ho mai capito, perche la Roland nom ha riprodotto la TR909 originale nel sound e nelle dimensioni? Ho il sospetto che ci sia dietro qualche copyright

[@marianochiappe2427]

Excellent comparison! The enhanced mode was engaged in the RD-9?

[@lukeimontv7086]

The kick and snare on the TR-09 are WAY better. But for some reason the rimshot sounds terrible on it? Weird

[@hut48]

I like my TR-09, but love the RD-9! The additional sound design & filters make it so much fun. Only thing that's annoying is in tap mode you need to select the instrument, so not as quick as just hitting the button on TR-09

[@exsiderurgica]

Yes this is a big deal!

[@pthex_]

tr09 for the win

[@JamesVytas]

Did they sound the same in the room? Could you tell that the tr09 wasn’t analog?

[@burger659]

final conclusion? which you like most ?

[@synthetic24]

I like them both. They sound like a TR-909

[@exsiderurgica]

In my opinion the big size wins! ;)

[@burger659]

@@exsiderurgica yes.. the tr09 is too small and the rd9 is too big for gigs Hahahaha

[@DJScatox]

Ciao scusa se ti scrivo dinuovo ma come ma il kick distorce è fatto proprio così ? Ho ascoltalo anche dai video ufficiali , ne sai qualcosa, grazie

[@OProject.]

Bassdrum and snare sounds better on TR09

[@sceptrerecords]

I own both. The tr 09 is definitely better with sound for. Love the gain options with the tr 09 as well and the performance feel is so much comfortable on the tr 09. The kick on the tr 09 is massive.

[@jhdrummer4815]

Do you mean soundwise quality is better on the Roland TR 09? I'm asking because I'm really undecided betweeen the two. Love the size of the RD 9 but quality of sound is more important.

[@eliasgarciasceptre]

@@jhdrummer4815 TR 09 is the way to go brother

[@mynewcolour]

Interesting. I ditched my TR-09 upon delivery of the RD-9. I’m not certain which is more ‘authentic’ sounding but the RD is a far nicer drum machine for me for many reasons.

[@klownaround5464]

Not sure but the comparisons here are close and of COURSE THE TR-09 will be closer to the real version it’s made by the same company- what else would you expect?? 🤔🤔🤔

[@JamesVytas]

I’m also curious how the ACB tech works in the tr6s. Is it comparable to the tr09? I would think so, but wonder if anyone’s tested.

[@codey1391]

It's exactly the same code

[@JamesVytas]

@@codey1391 so are you saying that the code in the tr6s,tr06 or plug-in 606 are just as accurate as in say the tr09? Because another commenter here was saying the tr08 wasn’t as accurate as mk2 RD8. But originals are not consistent either so if they’re close enough then there’s no issue I guess.

[@codey1391]

@@JamesVytas the mk2 rd8 is an analog drum machine, the others are running code to generate sounds

[@notime6988]

Ciao, scusami per la domanda probabilmente da profano: hai mai pensato di utilizzare la TR8S con kit annessi? (909,808 ecc) L’ho sempre vista come molto duttile per i live e vorrei capire come mai hai sempre optato per queste macchine piuttosto che la sopracitata. Grazie.

[@exsiderurgica]

Ciao! Preferisco i cloni 909 perché amo particolarmente quei suoni ed il suo workflow, ho provato al tempo tr8 e non aveva il sound che cercavo. Tr8s a giudicare da quello che ho sentito sul tubo sembra suonare meglio rispetto a tr8 ma preferisco non avere troppe librerie di suoni da gestire e poter controllare tutti i parametri a pannello, preferisco la risposta in frequenze dell'analogico soprattutto per il comportamento delle saturazioni, la compatibilità con Eurorack (trig out e sync) che purtroppo Tr8s non ha ed in fine il routing con le uscite separate che negli ultimi anni sembra essere una feature sottovalutata dagli altri produttori 😉.

[@notime6988]

@@exsiderurgica Grazie mille, effettivamente avevo sottovalutato alcune questioni ed approcciandomi solo da poco al mondo analogico ed eurorack la tua opinione è oro! 🙏

[@exsiderurgica]

Grazie, troppo buono! 😉

[@myceliumtechno]

Seems like the TR-09 has a lot more low end. I think on the individual out the RD-09 has more low end too, bypassing the compressor.

[@chesterpoobum]

Both machines will give you great results, but the TR-09 surprisingly has that 909 beefy low end. 909's have a dark sound to them when they are unprocessed. The snare is waayyyyy closer to the real deal, on the TR-09. Toms and kick are warmer and punchier. Basically, TR-09 is closer to the 909, if that is what you are looking for. On the other hand, I feel like the RD-8 MKII blows away the TR-08. I owned a real 808 for 10 years. I'm really impressed how close the RD-8 MKII is!!. I see a RD-9 MKII in 2 years.

[@streettrash_sid]

Rubbish

[@Sebrewer32]

I hope so but I think the only reason they released the MKII for the RD8 was because the colour scheme was too close to the 808 and they were feeling the pressure from Roland in a legal sense

[@57muzic]

TR 09 wins the sound contest, but the RD-9 wins the connectivity and ease of use. I own the TR-09 & TR-08. And back in the day, I had a Roland 909. They are all good machines, but I am thinking about adding the RD-9 to my workflow, but something has to go first, hum!

[@Tripwelleverday]

Behringer for the win 🏆

[@djkanyon]

TR-09 is so hard to find nowadays so let's hope Unca Uli will notice it and release his own version! Roland seem to ditch their own products like an ugly date on a prom night.

[@aftertheendtimes]

Yes indeed ,very nice video, 🙏 I like the the RD -9 for its size big fat metalcase as the original, i never get tired of my lovely RD-9 👍😃♥️cheers

[@Tsumios]

good review for the sounds, thank you. And I just realized how rd-9 big... not so big as original 909 but in my case smaller is interesting. for me - this instrument will be set up and will not be offten changed during session, so tr-09 size is better...

[@exsiderurgica]

Yes size is the point, I prefer to play live with lot of routing but Tr09 is also a great machine, sounds good and sequencer is the same of 909 ;) Thanks for support this channel.

[@seanino9094]

I have the tr09 and rd8. Prefer the tr09 sounds. Not the same machine but the roland especially the kick sounds better to my ears. No multiple outs on the tr09 is a pain in the hole though. Rd8 trumps it in that dept.

[@osipac]

Can you explain the benefits of the multiple outs? I see it mentioned here a few times.

[@elekktrikk_home_video]

Lucky you! 😅🥳😃

[@Whatyouwanttobewanted]

I love the Roland much more. Only if it had individuals I would have bought it.

[@vernellshelton90]

Please press the same button more times.

[@KR4FTWERK]

wth you dont match the sounds...?

[@ilmondodifaxe8216]

Perché sono italiani, e fanno le cose a cazzo

[@BDKabrini]

For me... I chose the TR08 over the RD8MKII and Drumbrute, bcus the of Roland Work Flow. It feels nostalgic and reminds me of living in the Ghetto/ Projects (again) and making DUE with hardship. That said... Eventually, I will need need a performance Drum Machine. I've considered the RD9 for its 909 size and slight extras...but...the TR-09 is very attractive for the 90s WORK FLOW. Smh. I understand Behringers CLONE WAR. And since the TR-09 is discontinued and price gouged, and the RD9 is delayed til August, Im gonna TRY to wait it out bfo buying a TR-09 on Reverb for a Higher Price....or Behringer creates a RD9 MKII. This Clone WAR Sucks 🤮 And NO. I don't like the TR8S. I know it has the 606,707,808,909 and Sampler, but like i said... ITS ALL ABOUT THE NOSTALGIC WORK FLOW ,FOR ME.

[@michaelhoste_]

yikes. The tr 08 sounds way better. Woodier with more initial peak/click. The cymbals are pretty close but as you move along, the rd starts sounding chintsy in comparison. I was really hoping to replace my (completely) trashed 909 with the behringer (individual outs / processing etc ) but now I'm stuck.

[@re8et355]

A buon Intenditore poche parole...!

[@TranceCore3]

Every single behringer clone I've heard of roland gear has been brighter than the roland gear. I don't get why people swear by behringer's clones. I'd just use samples and save up for roland gear if I want roland sounds. And I can tell the difference out of macbook speakers without even using headphones

[@michaelhoste_]

I can tell the difference on my phone. It's quite unfortunate that the rd9 sounds so scratchy with no attack. Like tissue paper.

[@lunaremissions1859]

La rd9, ripresa con l'audio delle uscite separate, suona decisamente meglio. È lì che si sente la differenza e la vera timbrica analogica. D'altro canto io, che sono passato dalla tr8 alla tr09 e, infine, alla rd9, penso che qualsiasi prodotto immetterà Behringer in futuro sul mercato (oltre a quello che già ho) lo comprerò sempre 😅

[@2sing]

l'hanno fatta più bella dell'originale per i miei gusti

[@frankieserious6512]

A parte rides e crash (che sono praticamente identici), per me direi RD-9 tutta la vita! :)

[@exsiderurgica]

considera anche crash e ride sono più facili da accordare ed essendo a base di sample sono effettivamente molto simili ma il resto anche se non esattamente identico ha il vantaggio di essere roba analogica, gli hats suonano leggermente diversi per via dell'intervento del vca analogico, tanta roba direi!

[@frankieserious6512]

Si si chiaro, ho avuto la 909 fino al 2005 e la timbrica e le sue peculiarità mi sono rimaste ben impresse :) anche se comunque leggermente diversa dall'originale la RD-9 è quella che acquisterei tra le due! ciao grazie

[@exsiderurgica]

Grazie a te!

[@nighthawk4277]

TR 09 mejor sonido y afinacion, tamaño tambien, mas práctica, la RD es muy exagerada y ocupa demasiado espacio, es como poner la fuente en tamaño para ancianos en el cel

[@steun86]

I was doing a comparison between my RD-9 and my TR-8S with a full loop and I found that the volumes on the RD-9 were a bit weird. The snare was too loud and the rim shot too silent. So In a live situation I would not be able to just open up the volume of the snare. On the TR-8S this is a non issue because you can configure the gain levels per instrument and make it so that 100% volume is at a level that sounds good. With the RD-9 you would have to remember that you never put the snare beyond 60% volume. This was my biggest complaint about the RD-9

[@exsiderurgica]

Yes this could be an issue but i think could be solved with a trimmer between circuits or processing individual outputs on external dedicated sub mixer. Anyway need to remember that RD-9 is hybrid analog like the original 909 instead of tr8s that is digital and sample based.

[@burger659]

but jeff mills managed that very well with the original 909 !

[@eldjmasterfreddy4366]

One sounds like a 909 the other one sounds like a 909. I dont think people would notice the difference in a mix.

[@ilmondodifaxe8216]

Io ho la TD3 della Berhinger e se la mangia la TB303

[@x10dc90]

Very good comparison. IMO both sound good but the RD-9 sounds better balanced, while the TR-09 sounds more bassy and the voices sounds a little tuned down.

[@exsiderurgica]

Thanks man!

[@vernellshelton90]

The 09 sounds the way it’s supposed to. The rd9 is pitched up.

[@x10dc90]

@@vernellshelton90 Yeah you're right, even so I went for the RD-9 for its bigger interface and individual outs. That's not to say I don't like the boutiques; I'm setting my sights on the JD-08.

[@osipac]

@@x10dc90can you explain the benefits of the individual outs vs how the Roland 09 doesn’t have that?

[@x10dc90]

@@osipac It depends if you have external gear (FX) to plug the individual outs into. In my case, I use the Kick individual out to distort it without distorting the mix. you get the idea hopefully.

[@Otuzartı1]

RD - 9 Bass Drum and Clap better TR -09 but TR - 09 > RD-9

[@FilippoFaleritym]

rd 9 gas totale

[@djfunky4707]

The RD9 is Fail ! The Snare and the Kick is not 909 like ! Hear by the snare .. the RD9 snare have NO Stick/tom Sound in it ! The original 909 Snare have a mixing between a rimshot and tom sound in it , the RD9 Snare have only a noise !! The RD9 Kick have not the original 909 sound and have no Pitch Envelope ! TR09 is the best believe me !

[@atommachine]

TR09 Has roland magic on outputs, And Drives well through desk.