🔴External Antenna for TMobile 5G Home Internet

[@landofahhs_1]

A word of advice if I may, as an RF tech most of my life, I would recommend that if people add the RF antenna mounting wires with the snap and screw mounting connectors, as recommended by Peter, that they first take the time to thoroughly clean both the screw and snap connector on their newly purchased connectors even if they look clean. Manufacturers have been known to put light oil or even grease on such things to keep them nice and shiny. I'd recommend using a clean cotton swab moistened with some alcohol for the job. Be sure to let the connectors dry well before connecting and visually inspect them for any strands of cotton left behind. Any contaminates including light oil or unseen dirt WILL cause reflections and a significant loss of power. Rf connections and circuitry need to be well grounded and have good clean circuitry...sloppy soldering and poor workmanship are major concerns when dealing with radio frequencies.

[@PeterC408]

Thanks. Always appreciate the knowledge of others. These things were so tight plugging in the first time. Reseating them is way easier!

[@duduudu4463]

Can you write more of the affect of grounding on functionality of the antenna? As to grounding…. National electrical code requires the sheath of antenna cable to be grounded with minimum 10 awg conductor. When lighting strikes near by voltage buildup on antenna may destroy the equipment and more. If you are installing antenna on a mast higher than the house and trees that will attract direct lightening strike so at least use sma lightning arrestors.

[@PeterC408]

Good to know. A little scary as nothing I have ever touched has every really been clean afterwards. I am going to try it.

[@PeterC408]

Paul - What do you know about oxidation of dissimilar metal connector types. I recently opened my unit and replaced the leads (one broke - too much testing) and the speeds jumped back to where they were >960Mbps!!! I wondering what happened and noticed that the metal used for the PCBA connector and my connector are dissimilar. Back in the PC DRAM DIMM days, there was "purple plague" where dissimilar metals caused corrosion (oxidation).

[@PabloCimino]

Well installed the external antennas and it didn’t work at all, had two bars before and two bars afterwards, even took the whole unit outside and still no increase in signal, returned the items on Amazon , it was pretty easy to do thank you for the guide

[@vidamoore1245]

THANK YOU for actually giving us a way to BOOST our signal. Not just telling us about our signal, bandwidth, etc. You actually gave us a SOLUTION and SHOWED us how one could possibly do it. You are the BEST!!!

[@PeterC408]

Sounds like you got it to work! Great news.

[@warrenholmesjr2329]

Great info! I added the external antenna and went from 2 bars to 3. Speeds went from mid 100mbps to over 300mbps (even spikes of 400mbps!). Uploads increased greatly too - Thanks for the great tutorial!

[@lattermanstudio]

How long are your cable and what brand?…. Thanks

[@dw3767]

what kind of antenna and where u get it?

[@warrenholmesjr2329]

@@lattermanstudio antenna came with 15 feet if cable. I added another 25 feet

[@daniellawson9537]

I live in a rural area where our only option forever has been DSL with a maximum of 3mbps download. I received my Tmobile Gateway on Wednesday. I plugged it in and only got 2 bars of signal. This gave us 10-30mbps download speed. I watched your video that night and ordered the same panel antenna/cables/connectors you used here. It was delivered today and within an hour of getting home from work, I had it all up and running with the antenna connected. Looked up my local towers, aimed it in the direction of the closest one, and we were bumped up to 3 bars signal. At 1st I didn't think that was very impressive, but after running multiple speed tests on 2 different sites, we're now getting 150-170mbps! Thank you so much for thoroughly showing the pigtail connection process!

[@PeterC408]

Great news!!! That sounds awesome. Sometimes it takes a several minutes to lock into two bands and start aggregating... sounds like yours is working. GREAT JOB. Thanks for sharing. Good news is always welcome.

[@yllib2012]

I'm getting GREAT results with zero modifications. What it looks like really doesn't matter as it'd been in my media server closet since day one. I hooked it up to my existing WiFi router and every device in the house connected instantly. The only differences I noticed is far higher speeds and reliability than my old cable Internet for 50% less cost.

[@PeterC408]

Check this out... Change your PACKET SIZE and get lower PING and faster speeds. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqK8iquai9efjpI Your existing router probably supports it and it makes VPN run smoother too.

[@jimcarmichael2395]

Great video for details, and the advice for anyone who does not have patience. Agree 100%. Thanks for this close up look at breakdown of how to install external antenna leads and how to test results.

[@fredcludius8655]

I have had a heck of a time getting decent internet in my (barely) rural location. T-Mobile and your video on how to add an external antenna have made those problems a past issue! 258 down 36 up as of the last test. In the not too distant past, I'd be doing back flips if I got 30 down and 2 up. Usually I would be looking at something in the teens down and sub 1 up. Thanks! Starlink took too long to get to my area - T-Mobile rocks for half the cost!

[@PeterC408]

Wow! I am thrilled that you got it to work. You must have good eyes, a steady hand and the patience of a saint. On a scale of 1 to 10 (where 10 is the most difficult), how difficult would you say getting the external antenna solution to work?

[@ggfb20]

Sound like AZ West Valley to me.

[@carlosfernandez7098]

@fredcludius8655, Hello Fred, I have the same problem here. How did you get T-Mobile to provide the router; here they ask for your address and if you are not in what they call range they won’t sell it saying it will not work.

[@fredcludius8655]

@@carlosfernandez7098 I was within range, but the signal was weak. And a metal roof didn't help. The signal was spotty until I put up the external antennae. That made all the difference.

[@tedbear631]

I just talked to Tmobile today and I'm switching can't wait Charter can suck it lol. Can't wait to get my stuff in the mail!!!

[@memopadilla5931]

How is it ?

[@Grem135]

Saw this video before i got tmobile 5g gateway and it conviced me to give it a try. After lots of problems and a gateway replacement I finally got somewhat stable connection and decided to give this a go. I went from 2 bars to 3 bars with the proxicast antenna in the same window that I had my gateway! Much better. Next nice day I have I will mount the antenna on my old DTV dish mast in hopes of much better speed. Thanks for making this video!

[@PeterC408]

Just saw the message where you got it working!!! Great news! Did you find it difficult? What part? What bands are you now picking up?

[@Grem135]

@@PeterC408 Ingot my antenna mounted on the roof today and now have 4 bars with speeds around 200-230 Mbps and upload of 40 Mbps. That's over 4x what I was getting for both. Awesome! Thanks again for your video! I'm on Bands B66 and n41. It wasn't difficult at all. I have replaced a few smartphone displays so used to some of the stuff needed.

[@mikemulitsch6584]

Peter can you give the specifics on what size adapter you used going from the pigtails male to the larger “ regular “ cable thst goes to external antenna, I keep ordering but they are the same size as the pigtail male end

[@davidgrasscutter6545]

after I open show more link was in place, Thanks keep the subscribers number climbing, maybe 200k next week

[@ericliu1212]

In regarding the color of the unit, here in Australia we have exactily the same unit provided by Optus being gloss white, and Optus retained the original NOKIA 5G Gateway 3 label on it.

[@PeterC408]

Yes, I imaging that Nokia OEM'ed this to other markets. I like the idea of white. Injected plastic done in Silver is problematic because it shows flow lines and needs to be painted. Silver paint usually contains some metal which is not the best for a radio with antennas inside. Gloss White has its own problems with mold lines.. but it does sound better

[@revtmyers1]

Just ordered my T-Home Internet based on your first video about it. Looking forward to it. I currently have Spectrum Cable. Definitely will be interesting to compare as I believe Spectrum, formerly Time Warner Cable, isn't that great of value but was our only practical option to provide a minimum of our needs.

[@8m617]

Ordered mine this morning with a Sept 4-27 anticipated delivery. Checking w/you to see what the estimated window was a week ago when you ordered? Thx!

[@revtmyers1]

Just received it a couple of days ago and have 2 bars, barely 3 occasionally, stock. That being said I am getting 180-240 Mbps down. I may hold off on the antenna extension.

[@scar0134]

How is it? Did you cancel spectrum?

[@Lia-ih7qu]

I gave up spectrum after promo was about to expire, so I would be paying more for frequent outages, I had already gave up tv and got a dish. Thought TMobile would be solution, but in my rural area, reception is still poor. No more than 2 bars and low speeds no matter where I put it (don't have a second floor and can't put it too high since they said it had to be plugged into wall). After a month and a half of calling tech support, spending days and hours on the phone with no real help, I'm about ready to give up. They finally recommended an extender, though only 2 brands and neither worked. I got an orbi which helped speed a little, but not cell service. I went back to spectrum on a new customer promo price and increased speed, and much better internet, but still spotty cell phone. No one can tell me how to fix that. I would be willing to try this antenna idea, but can't do it myself and would not even know who to call to do it for me. So I'm ready to give up. 😥 But I'm glad you said it worked, maybe I will try this last attempt.

[@ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr]

Time Warner actually used to be awesome a few years back before Spectrum purchased it!

[@KINTOSOL007]

Peter carcione you give me an idea am planning getting this from Tmobile why didn't you just take out the 5G signal antennas an haven them on the out side of the metal round box using hot glue are double side tape

[@nunyabizz50]

Peter, have a question: Why not just use a cell signal booster, uses outside panel or directional antenna then hook up to a small antenna inside that boost the signal inside the house. That way you don't need to mess with (add antenna to)the T Mobile gateway , or am I missing something where that wouldn't work?

[@PeterC408]

Cost, efficiency, safety. Check out how easy it is to add and how much less it cost. Now consider that the high frequency radio waves and retransmission are outside my house (many people are concerned of health affects of 4G/5G tech). kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYm2oZWGbbOojdk

[@nunyabizz50]

@@PeterC408 ahh, gotcha. Thank you so much for the info. I just ordered the gateway yesterday, supposed to be here late next week. According to cellmapper I am supposed to be solidly in the 5G Ultra Capacity zone but apparently that may not mean doodley. There is one cell on that closest tower that supposed to be 350 down 350 up which is what I am hoping for. Tired of playing the game with Spectrum cable which I've had for 25 years and currently paying $125/month for 300/25. Love your podcast, always very informative.

[@davidgrasscutter6545]

Also to mention I live far from t towers t internet on good days gets about 125 speeds, band 66 is 30 megs speed.

[@PeterC408]

Nice. Its seems Tmobiles brand of 5G gets the distance covered better than I was expecting. I am very happy with it.

[@kylelaker539]

Followed your tutorial my speed goes 1 terabyte at 2 am in the morning 500 to 700 mbps on working days thanks so much kudos to you sir.

[@PeterC408]

Great to hear! Glad to help. That sounds pretty FAST!

[@kylelaker539]

Yes it is we're 500 ft far from sprint/verizon tower that might be the reason :)

[@radon1221]

highly interesting modification. There's a few shops here in the UK that modify B818 Huawei routers for more SMA connectors for 4X4 MIMO, but this seems like something I can definitely do myself. Cheers mate!

[@drpc98014]

I just got the t-m h i with the new arcadian router. i get good signal with the help of a cell booster but data speeds are disappointing is the antenna locations the same for the arcadian routers?

[@PeterC408]

Don't use a cell booster, those things scare me and they only repeat poor signals. An external antenna will get you much further and I hear that the antenna location on the arcadia router are much the same.... but I am still waiting for one.

[@drpc98014]

@@PeterC408 too late, I live in an area where cell phones don't work very well when outside and more often than not don't work at all when inside. my 48 db weboost takes my t-m h.i signal from poor/weak to good and sometimes excellent. And my data rate jumps from 2-3 mbps to 10 to 20 and above. earlier today i was seeing mid 40's down. my latest booster is a surecall fusion4 with even more gain, so I'm no longer confined to sitting within 5ft of a indoor antenna. In my area cell boosters are a must have. Moving on.. still wait on critical cable assy so no 4x4 mimo antenna until later this week.

[@D_R_O_9xs]

I want to thank you I did this and I went from averaging about 30 to 45 down and maybe one up and now I'm getting in the hundreds down and in the thirties up.

[@PeterC408]

That's great news! Did you find it difficult? Would you do it again?

[@DovidSal]

ust signed up for T Mobile Home Internet. A lucky shot I would say. Got it connected and started monitoring speed, the results: some good ones and some very bad ones. But the bad ones over passed the good ones (speeds around 1 or 2 Mbps). After calling CS three times I realized that they had no answer to such erratic behavior. They sound nice over the phone, interested in resolving the issue, but not solid recommendation beyond "did you try different spots in the house?" A ticket was created but... no answer given... To what I completely found unacceptable and decided to return the equipment. Btw, I have seen a lot of videos here and I find interesting the fact of several of them addressing issues like : add an antenna, a router, change this and that, go to a website and do... etc. Who is to do that? I find those videos irrelevant for what they implied. The customer simply wants a product that works closed enough to what it is advertised... simple...

[@PeterC408]

It seems to be a location thing. Many people found putting it upstairs and facing the tower did the trick, but that is not going to work for everyone. For me, the external antenna did it. Now I get over 800Mbps

[@ectonomics]

Tmobile should have just added an external port or coax cable to connect an old dish to it for rural areas so it could double as a cellphone tower if you live in the country to eliminate deadzones

[@ectonomics]

@mary allen tmobile doesnt check for downloaded copyright materials att or spectrum does if that device used a sim card i would trash the att sim and install the tmobile sim in it

[@lyfandeth]

Unless the silver paint is also designed as an RFI shield. Many routers have metallic sprayed inside the case for this reason.

[@PeterC408]

It would be very weird to shield a design with 10 antennas right under the skin. I am glad I got these antennas outside.

[@lyfandeth]

@@PeterC408 Weird is the new norm. In the Startac days I actually got a Motorola engineer on the phone to ask if I could replace a stubby with a full length pull out type. AT&T vs Verizon models. He said absolutely, but everyone wanted "tiny" so they used inferior stubby antennas on the AT&T models. Tmobile? Go figure. Maybe the silver paint is really glass dust in gray, not metallic at all?

[@Jonaythan]

It's probably metallic to be shielding. FCC got strict in the 80s. Remember trs-80 and other such devices just spewing out rf because no shield. I think trs80 chewed up AM band

[@PeterC408]

Oh, I remember them well. When I was a kid, I wanted the TRS-80 Color computer. It hooked up to your TV via an RF box.

[@lloyde80]

I got tmobile internet. I use foil lined box with the gateway and get 25% to 50% speed increase. I just ordered a antenna I am going to try and see what improvements I get.

[@PeterC408]

Yes, I am excited to hear your results. :) The Proxicast is a great antenna.

[@montyhenson2664]

The fall 2020 4G box is a box and white. T mobile tech support states antenna on the white box is on the bottom so turn it upside down to get a better 4G signal. Also suppose to move around your house to detect best t mobile signal.

[@PeterC408]

I have heard that their are internal antenna connectors in that one as well. :o

[@davidgrasscutter6545]

After hooking up antennas feeds, then to outside antennas what channel 66, n41 disappeared, then I went back to box RE hooked box antennas n41 re appears 3 hours later ? Thoughts ???

[@PeterC408]

Antenna did not support n41 frequency?

[@whocares5188]

I have this hot spot. I have a 4x4 antenna. I can't get any signal with the top 2 post on the hotspot. But the bottom 2 work. Sucks bc I'm not getting 4x4

[@PeterC408]

Not all antennas are the same... I like the Proxicast antennas. They are real antennas made by American engineers that are radio experts! Proof is in the pudding.

[@ChaseRightOn]

Tmobile has freed me from ATT(100Mbps) internet prison... Been using Tmobile internet for about 2 weeks... I was only expecting 100 Mbps since that's what i was told by the sales rep...I live 30 mins north of Houston and shockingly im receiving around 550 Mbps most of the time. The slowest test so far was 350 Mbps during peak hours... Excited to see my speeds after this mod.

[@marshalllucier4916]

Peter Thank so much for sharing this info. I have the newest modem from T-Mobile, Acryndin (SIC) it’s black. Do you have any videos for this modem?

[@PeterC408]

No, but I understand that it is very similar. The most important part is to get THIS antenna. Other antennas are toys. I get over 900Mbps an other are struggling to get 200Mbps.

[@jameshilton4132]

Where do u connect the two new antenna wires to, Do u connect to outside antenna ,where do u connect, Can u set up for outside antenna

[@jameshilton4132]

I have roof antenna with coaxial cable do I change ends of cable

[@PeterC408]

No it is a very specialized antenna designed for 4GLTE but since Tmobile is aggregating frequencies in the 4G spectrum for 5G, I tried out that antenna. All the links including my video review are in the video description (and now below) including the cables that made this happen. I just didn't want to make the video any longer than it already was. Antenna Connectors amzn.to/3xUsBuP Proxicast Antenna used amzn.to/2LfALev Full Proxicast Bundle with Cables and Silicon Tape amzn.to/3qr9gPn My Review of the Proxicast Antenna kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJjFpJiGr76NitU

[@robertdaniels6962]

I added the external pigtails to 1&2 and it help my speed dramatically (from around 25 to 100 and haven’t moved to the antenna outside yet) however I noticed that I no longer have a secondary signal, only primary on band B66. Secondary tells me it’s not connected. Is this something that happened as a result of the alteration? Thanks -Bob

[@RexZShadow]

I got my tmobile home internet today, speed been amazing hitting 250Mbps without anything. I want to try to install the external antenna anyways coz I have it but the problem is my model seem to be a new one so I'm unsure how to open it. Do you have any idea if its still possible to install external antenna on the new models? Thank you!

[@keneflucas937]

Hello all. I notice that Peter is using the round cylinder model. I just got mine in today and it is more of a rectangular shape. Will the modification and process in this video work for the model I received?

[@VNV67]

Hey There Peter Carcione I have this modem now. But I am going to use MIMO 4x4 Log Periodic External Antennas. Now I only get 2 bars because the tower is 3 miles away. So I think that if I get them about 20-25 ft. up they should perform very well. Also I will be using LMR400 cable. And if this don't work I will put it in one of my 60ft. towers. I also have a MOFI4500 SIM7 with only two of these antenna about 6 ft. off the ground and getting ping times of 40-50ms and speeds of around 30-40Mbs. So if this will also go on the 60 ft. tower. I will keep you informed when it is done. I still have to order the antennas yet.

[@PeterC408]

That sounds interesting but I would most like to hear what RSRQ and RSRP number you are getting and which bands you are locking to. I am getting some very good speeds off n71 but with really good numbers. Take a look at this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4HIcoaHgbOIeLc

[@thenarrowroad9468]

I have a different router than you are showing. I just got my T-mobile internet and reception is spotty. I do not have a silver tube like you do I have a black rectangular model. there are no screws to take the cover off. Have seen this one?

[@PeterC408]

Yes and other KZbinrs have done a teardown on that one. It is very similar inside.

[@earlt911]

Maybe consider a video showing the effects of the silver casing and speeds with it on and with it off ? Thanks Peter!

[@duduudu4463]

I doubt there is metal particles in the paint they used. I painted my other antenna metallic grey and contacted paint company . They use mineral mica for the shine. I checked it with my Megger and confirmed it doesn’t conduct a thing.

[@Doc_435]

@@duduudu4463 Even if it doesn't contain metal particles, I would have to guess 'naked' antennas would gain something over being behind the cover.

[@BRigwald]

I'm looking at the Waveform Mimo 4x4 kit, which comes with RS240 N-Male to SMA Cable. If I have a longer run, like 100 ft, is it worth getting the RS400 or RS600 cable instead. The listings say they have lower loss. Thanks.

[@PeterC408]

Waveform is not the same as Proxicast. I have had the largest improvement of anyone on the web, pulled a 910Mbps earlier today. I would go with that. 100ft is very long. Try to reduce that for you own wallet sake.

[@ksk101963]

Thanks for another great video and just to let everyone know i ordered my home internet unit but TMobile is a month and a couple of days behind schedule for sending your unit thanks again for all you do for us ☺️

[@PeterC408]

Great to hear! Let us know how it goes and the speeds you are seeing.

[@ksk101963]

@@PeterC408 will do as soon as I receive it I will let you know and then with testing and maybe a external antenna to get the best quality signal strength thanks again for everything you do for us with your videos and information

[@miketez1]

Just got mine yesterday after I was told I was supposed to get it anywhere between Sept 4th & Sept 27th. It is super fast!.I love it. Plus it comes with a t-vision TV hub. I wasn’t told that. But that’s even better. I use it with my computer monitor, I don’t have a TV, and it works well.

[@jakestellar4600]

So if I look at the screen on the unit would the WiFi output antenna be to the left or right or front or back of the unit? It was like a game of 3card Monty trying to follow you there 😂

[@muherd79]

I just did this great walk through and adding the pig tails is extremely hard you have to push down pretty hard to get them to snap in 👌Thanks for all the info

[@PeterC408]

I don't think that is a modem limitation but must be a setting on the modem or the service.

[@timwindsor03]

Awesome video brother. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an amazing night.

[@PeterC408]

Thanks Tim. Have a good night

[@fire27fire]

I'm about to order the bundle you have listed in the description...wish me luck! I'll post an update soon!

[@PeterC408]

Good luck. Let us know how it goes!!!

[@fire27fire]

@@PeterC408 got everything hooked up and working! Pointed the external antenna directly towards the cell tower using cellmapper. My download speed went from around 40-60Mbps to around 70-90Mbps and sadly the upload didnt get effected at all it still sits right at about .80Mbps-1.25Mbps. My main goal was to increase the upload to help with online gaming. Anymore advice for increasing upload? I used to get around 15 until about 2 months ago. Thanks Peter!

[@PeterC408]

@@fire27fire What Bands are you getting? Are you getting two? What is the RSRP and RSRQ? I'd point my antenna at the 4G signal if they are separated. That's your upstream.

[@fire27fire]

@@PeterC408 Currently getting (-113 RSRP) (-15 RSRQ) and I noticed for some reason it keeps switching the towers I'm on. Which it has been doing this, is there anyway to get it to just stay on one selected tower so it will stop interrupting my signal?

[@PeterC408]

@@fire27fire Power is too low and the quality a little off. Try switching the antenna LEDs. One is Hoizontal and one Vertical.

[@Rick6767rick]

Holy hell thats a lot of work...you mean this thing doesnt come with a port or anything u can just snap an external antenna on too ? well all i can say is if I get this thing it better get a good signal with the antenna it came with.. cause i aint doing all that to attach another one

[@PeterC408]

For most people, it will just work. I am the one that had to chase down the final last bit of performance.

[@mikemulitsch6584]

Peter I’m doing this all to , had the hotspot about 3 weeks now, bought the proxicast antenna and well everything for it, that you had listed . 2 questions. One is what adapter do you use going from the little pigtails we add to the T- mobile tower to the antenna cable ? Second question is the proxicast antenna says “ connect “ V” lead to main/ primary Antenna port and connect “ H” to Auxiliary port … if I follow your advise and undo 3 and 4 what goes where? Thanks for all you do for us out here in 10mbps land

[@PeterC408]

Try it... then try switching them and see if it makes a difference. Maybe I got lucky, I guess it was a 50/50 chance.

[@petekane2501]

Peter so pointing at 3 o’clock towards tower was likely to get best results

[@PeterC408]

Yes, either 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock as that's where those 4G/5G antennas are.

[@BusyHiker]

Peter, can I pull out a WiFi wire to setup a panel antenna for WiFi at the same time? I have a shed I like to work in and would love WiFi there, if I could do the same thing with the WiFi I could place another outdoor antenna on the same mast and that would kelp my outdoor WiFi! Let me know.

[@PeterC408]

I love the idea. I see no reason why not except that running such wires can have a lot of loss with distance. It might be better to run Ethernet cable out there and just get an inexpensive WIFI AP.

[@voodoopete6206]

Great video, I really want to do this. I have external antenna ready to go just got to get my nerves up to do. Plus I have fat fingers and old man eyes lol.

[@jonnynova2860]

Yes that exactly what I was looking for ....lol now what would be the best out door 360° antenna for this to pick up WiFi hotspots and cell signal

[@PeterC408]

It is a balance thing. Either omni-directional and pretty good or directional and better. Since the towers are not moving and either is my house, this appears to be a really good antenna but if I was in an RV that moved about.... I might opt for a omni-directional

[@charlesklink7179]

Pete, I cannot add an external antenna. I live in a condo building with sealed windows and steel frame construction. I'm on the side of the building that faces the ocean (New Jersey). Is there any hope for me?

[@PeterC408]

You can add an indoor external antenna. I reviewed a couple here. None as good as being outside but I like those hockey pucks they work really well. Here is a video on that kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXq2nJueoJaLj9k

[@robira1313]

Mine looks different. It is black and a square tower. Why does my iPad freeze up when I'm getting 5 bars and 5g? ...just when I take it just outside the front door of my house.

[@Screwbag07]

This may be a dumb question but I’m completely stumped. I ordered the pigtails and the antenna, I’m just not quite sure how to connect the end to the ends on the antenna, is there a adapter I need to buy? Because the end on the pigtail is too small for the end on the antenna. Any help would greatly be appreciated

[@PeterC408]

Yes, listed in the product description are cables that go from the antenna to the radio where the pigtails will connect.

[@dedskiinmask6220]

Literally in the center of Chicago and it's still not available been checking every week for 6 months pretty sad

[@lattermanstudio]

External antennas are WELL worth it !!! .... agree

[@PeterC408]

Totally agree. Mine keeps getting faster. I just pulled a 700Mbps down with a 127Mbps up!!!

[@vampirerevin]

stupid question im sure, but why not just attach the new connectors to the original buttons/snap thing on the board? not a tech person so like i said prob dum question but had to ask?

[@PeterC408]

Antennas come with some pretty standard but much larger connectors. We need to use a small cable to attach them. The connectors that come from the antenna are 3/4" in diameter and I have to bring them down to like 3mm. I shrink them down cable after cable. You can see the hookup in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYSUhYesj6qVeJY with my NEW SPEEDS

[@TheWizionary1]

Peter- do you have a video about how to get a static IP address on this thing? For using it with Hulu with live tv I have to use AirPlay with my iPad to watch. If there was a way to rig this to use a static IP that would be great, since I don’t want KZbinTV. Thx.

[@PeterC408]

Ah, I finally see the issue that people have been asking about Hulu... it is a geo-location thing. Yes, I have the same issue with LocastTV (local TV for $5/mo) and this access point thinks I am in Sacramento. Close but over 100 miles away and a totally different climate for sure. I have gotten around that by running IPVanish at boot on my Nvidia Shield. Still way fast enough and now I can choose my apparent location as San Jose, CA once again.

[@TheWizionary1]

@@PeterC408 one of the things that the T Mobile techies have said is to not use a VPN with this gateway.

[@pandigman]

Thanks for your great “how to” videos…one question is why can I receive 5G with my phone in the window, but the T-Mobile 5G router will not receive that signal…even with the proxicast antenna…? Good signal strength but only B71…Thanks again…

[@mooreaud1]

Peter this is great but I don’t see what external antenna you’re using or a link to the little dongles you’re using from Amazon. Could I get that info?

[@PeterC408]

It is in the video description! With links and everything. 😀

[@ljmeyerful]

Thanks for the tutorial. Very nice. I'm living in a rural area and my t-mobile phones connect to 5g. My home isp is a line of sight to a tower max: 15mb/3mb - and they just upgraded us from 10/2. The t-mobile rep found an "address", but they're shipping it to me. I'm very likely going to need to do the upgrade. Can I just purchase and "extension cord" and just stick the existing 5 g on my window facing the tower (which is about 7 miles away)? Also I understand that there are several units that tmobile uses for the home service. I hope they all work in a similar way.

[@PeterC408]

Yes, they all use the same parts and are very similar inside.

[@jybr2159]

Thank you! Looking fwd to the test results.

[@TheGuruStud]

Looking front wheel drive....mmkay

[@ReLink2013]

Any chance you could do one of these for the Inseego FX2000? My speeds are awful, yet they're fine on my phones.

[@MrBOB39]

Ok I am a Bit Stumped here. In opening it up.. You saw 3 or 4 sets of 5 G antennas I think you need use 1&3 together and 2&4 together To hook properly to MIMO antennas

[@PeterC408]

Good thinking but it kind of gets confusing inside of a Gateway. Gateways are a crossroads between two dissimilar networks. In this case it is 5G going to Ethernet/WiFi/ The 5G antennas are Cellular and MIMO is a WiFi standard. We did not touch the Wi-Fi antennas so MiMo should work just fine.

[@MrBOB39]

@@PeterC408 mimo was Introduced Not for WiFi ( but later Adamped by wifi ) If I recal ( I'm doing this from memory..lol ) Cat 4 first introduced Mimo technology at a 2x2 Cat 6 ( slightly slower then Cat 5 ) jumped to mimo 4x4 Nowadays.. We have Cat 18 even cat 22 or 24.. Now enabling up to mimo of 4x4 MIMO on five aggregated LTE carriers ( at far higher bandwidth the the Not too old Cat 6 standard ) enabling up to 2 GB down and 300+ upload.. This is Acomplished through up to for up to 7x carrier aggregation with 4x4 mimo ( I think each channel offers 20 maybe 40 mhz bandwidth ) Anyways.. This started when I saw you referencing Not just 2 5G but 3 ( maybe 4 ) 5G access points. That I'm thinking.. Could all be tapped into in a mimo application per 5G strip... to seperate antennas..then point each antenna to a different tower ( where I am I have 5 to 8 T-Mobile towers a 1/2 to mile from me ( and Super high speed towers 2.5 miles from me Simply across a river ) Your Thoughts ? Thanks

[@1thinkhealthy]

Thanks for this video. I have this device coming as soon as T-Mobile gets them back in stock. Probably within 30 days or so.

[@jimmybeee5]

We live a a very rural area, our home has a steel roof and recently added the T mobile trash can gateway.our dB is about 112. The rsrq is -12 but get no reading on rsrp speed test 36down. Most devices Samsung galaxy phone and tab run good but wifes iPhone and iPad reports no internet. Will this Ext antenna help us?

[@PeterC408]

My guess is that you need to turn on the 2.4GHz WiFi... You can access it in the firmware 192.168.12.1 Click on and then

[@repsol9]

Hi Peter thank you for the video great info, one question is that the antenna specify a U and a H connection wire - does it matter which one connect to the gateway? Thank you in advance.

[@PeterC408]

Yes it does but it is hard to know which one. Good news is that it won't hurt it if you hook them up wrong. Try both, it will be obvious which one is correct.

[@haydenholman5392]

I got the antenna and all of the connectors but when I hooked it up to one and two I did not see an improvement then I decided to hook it up to three and four and when I just hooked up the antenna without the other 5G antennas that came with the gateway it said I was not connected to the Internet. Also the two female N connectors that are coming out of the antenna are labeled as V and H and the instructions say that I need to connect The V connector to my main antenna port and then I need to connect the H connector to the aux/DIV port. Any thoughts on what I should do?

[@PeterC408]

V stands for Vertical and H stands for Horizontal. They are a pair. The antenna has a similar pair inside, that is why you need two leads. Check and make sure you didn't forget to put the SIM back in the right way or that it did not slip out... It might take a minute to connect , but I have done this 10 times at least.

[@haydenholman5392]

@@PeterC408 So you’re saying that if I connected to one and two or three and four and I do not see an improvement I need to wait a few minutes for it to try to connect to the tower properly and if that doesn’t work I need to swap the V and H connectors around and see if that works?

[@PeterC408]

@@haydenholman5392 yes. Software reboot it from the firmware and watch it reattach and pickup both bands. Make sure you are getting two bands and note which ones

[@supernice_auto]

How do you think the tmobile home gateway stacks up against the likes of something like the NETGEAR Nighthawk M5 5G Mobile Hotspot with WiFi 6 (MR5200)? I have a very good friend that lives out in Utah and doesn't have access to proper fiber internet- his internet is very average and he frequently experiences packet loss and generally poor performance for gaming. I'm a computer engineer myself so I'd like to help him out by setting him up w/ 5g (he is already on tmobile, and i've checked there are 5g towers (no n41 though, only n71) close to him). What i'm uncertain about is if he'd be better off w/ something like the MR5200 in this case- thanks again love the channel amazing info!!!

[@PeterC408]

First you need to find out which Bands are being broadcast in his area and who (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) they belong to. This video will show you how to use network data to see where the towers are and the bands they put out kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHfClIqwhbSdq68 Here is a video on n71 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4HIcoaHgbOIeLc

[@jimmybeee5]

Peter, I have the T mobile trash can unit. Out of the box I've seen speeds of 350 during non peak times. During prime hours I am getting 35-50 download results. Will adding an external antenna such as the many you have referenced make a significant difference? Thank you for your very informative videos and responses.

[@PeterC408]

That depends on whether the signal that you are currently getting can be improved by an antenna. Take a look at 23:50 in the video and find out what Bands you are getting for 4GLTE and 5G. Then look at our SNR, RSRP and RSRQ numbers. If they can be improved, so can your scores and this is the best antenna. I am not getting over 800Mbps using two antennas. Totally worth the effort

[@realtoast7036]

Sad realization: I'm ready to work this setup with the equipment suggested. But, since I do not have the unlimited T-Mobile Internet deal available in my area (I have the regular $50 for 100G download) when I successfully set this up and it works, faster speeds would be a larger volume of Mbps downloaded over the same period of time and simply lead to hitting my 100G threshold sooner. Am I wrong?

[@PeterC408]

It will give you faster speeds but that will not affect how much you use the internet, just a faster experience. It will load pages faster and you might be tempted to stream more, but that is up to you. When I was using the 100GB plan, I turned my Netflix to 720P to cut down on the bandwidth.

[@normrobbins4682]

I added the external antenna that you gave and connectors. By the way, Looked simple when you put on the connectors to the board. Took me 30 minutes. My question is I replaced 3/4 as you did. I was getting 200 down 20 up 30 to 35 ping. B2/N41 connection. Now with antenna, I'm getting B2/N71 and 100 or higher pings and less than 90 down and 10 to 20 at times up. I'm pointing the screens at the tower the gateway was pointed to as well before adding external antenna. I'm thinking it's an angle issue or possibly needs to be angled up. Not sure? Might even need to move the antenna? Any advice would be appreciated and great how to video as well.

[@PeterC408]

Switch the antenna leads. They are not the same. One is a reference signal and the other primary. It wont hurt anything, but switching them should help a lot.

[@solomicrobe]

Waveform external antenna had zero effect for me. Tried aiming at multiple towers and use the 1-2 and 3-4 connections nothing helped. Oh well.

[@PeterC408]

I have never talked about a waveform antenna. I have only been happy with Proxicast. While I have not tested the Waveform, every other antenna a tried was a joke with no real engineering behind it. Proxicast was night and day amzn.to/2LfALev

[@leegray3446]

I have added the external wires to the T-Mobile Home Internet Router leads for the 1st and 2nd 5G antenna. As I am trying to improve my 5G reception, what external antenna have you tested/reviewed that you would recommend? I did a search on Amazon and even Googled It. I found a large number of antenna for 5G/LTE ranging from $50 -- $350. Any suggestions? Thanks!

[@leegray3446]

I checked the band used by the T-Mobile LTE tower (B66) and 5G tower (N41). As these are both < 6000MHz, would the Proxicast 4G / LTE Cross-Polarized (MIMO) 7-10 dBi High-Gain Fixed-Mount Panel Antenna address both frequencies?

[@nunyabizz50]

Gateway is supposed to be here today. One more question, what are your thoughts on the Nokia Fastmile Gateway? It is supposed to have remote antenna hookups plus more and better internal antennas along with several other improvements, was curious about your opinion of them. Crying shame that every item for the Merikan market always has to be dumbed down and cheapened.

[@PeterC408]

Very interesting. TMobile's Gateway is made by Nokia and at first glance they appear to be one and the same, but they are dramatically different!!! TMobile supports 802.11ax and this one only supports up to 802.11ac. Also, the 5G radio is different. This one seems focused on n78 and not n71 and n41. I will keep looking but don't think that one will replace the other. Different as night and day.

[@nunyabizz50]

@@PeterC408 again thank you so much. I knew you would set me straight. I got the gateway today and have tried it all over the house and turned it every way imaginable to squeak the best signal that I can out of it and the best I can get is 2 bars, the RSRP no better than -99 usually at -100 to -105. SINR between 7 to 13. Pretty sad average of about 40Mbps down 15Mbps up and stays roughly the same through my VPN which is Mullvad. So you think the external antenna would give me over 100Mbps average?

[@kenanderson7321]

Peter. Great idea. What coax cable are you using from the trash can and the antenna and how long is it? TIA

[@PeterC408]

All the parts with links are listed below. Make sure that you get the Silicon tape to take up the connections from the rain. It is a small investment that protects a much larger one. Note: Coax cables act like a wick to rain and quickly soak in rain and then they are ruined. Protect the connections. Don't let them sit in exposed water.

[@jonnynova2860]

OK I can't find this any where ....I travel and I want to connect to random WiFi hotspots when I find one .....I am trying to find a 4 g router. For the cell service and one that well act like an access point when there's a hotspot around and I want all antennas to be external... Can you help

[@PeterC408]

It sounds like you are looking for this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6HHpJaGnd2mfZI Great product by the way. I use it as a bridge at home. It is on 24/7 and has been for months

[@aaroncomerford8050]

The gateway web interface is so different now. Can't see practically anything like you showed. Wish they hadn't simplified it.

[@PeterC408]

Yes, it seem hurtful when they keep changing the software. Try the phone app as it is the same for both units.

[@boonjacob]

I have low speed on my 5g and would like to know if the Proxicast Antenna you have recommended works for n78 (3500Mhz) band 5G network.

[@PeterC408]

Yes, this antenna will work for any sub 6GHz signal. What has n78?

[@MrTransform]

So I just moved to a new house i am located by a bunch of distribution huds, Amazon, FedEx, UPS. The t-mobile towers n71-N41 sit on the other side of those hubs. I’ve bought antennas to put on my Nokia gateway, it gives me better “signal” but same speeds 1-5mbps is there a hope for me?? I called T-Mobile and they said to give them 1-3 days to “update” my local towers to help my speeds, but I doubt they’ll upgrade their system just for me 🙃

[@PeterC408]

mine has consistently gotten faster. It has been 9 days since your post, any change?

[@billg1744]

Did I miss where you determined the interference the can on the gateway caused? I have two options, Frontier with their $60 1-2 Mbps down and .5 Mbps up or T-mobile with 1 bar 5 Mbps down and .o1 - .02 Mbps up. I'm trying, I can live with the 5 but the upload often drops to zero and the speed test fail.

[@PeterC408]

Those are two not very good choices. Have you looked at this video to see who's equipment is closet to you and the BANDS that they are putting out? Check out this video, it has many good tips. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnLPZHduabtgadE

[@billg1744]

@@PeterC408 outer bands of a 4g/lte tmobile tower

[@billg1744]

@@PeterC408 That website keeps warning of an ad block, which doesn't exist in my google extensions, removed toon blast & google docs just in case, still the map is blocked.

[@billg1744]

@@PeterC408 Got it. First I'm going to change how I direct my tin can gateway Thanks. I used pythagorean theorem to find the closest tower. Then it is going to be an external antennae. I was pointed 120 degrees wrong direction.

[@jorgegarza8648]

Kudos! Awesome video. Keep that fantastic work

[@MiroBG359]

Also, don't forget to properly ground your antenna. Lightning tends to love these things

[@PeterC408]

We don't have that kind of lightning. Come to think of it, I have not seen lightning hit the ground out hear in years! But if it happens where you live, it is good to treat it like any other antenna.

[@projectnerdvana2820]

Thanks for the in depth video, i like your vibe and reviewing style so i subscribed.

[@PeterC408]

Thank you. I've got a lot of new things coming up.

[@alexzanderhardy7045]

Awesome vid was wondering if you’re son has been playing games like fortnite and other computer games . I I’m in a very rural area but there is a tower near me I get about 3 to 4 bars and it’s almost enough to play but I just need a little bit better internet . Thank you

[@PeterC408]

Yes, he is a heavy PC gamer but we are also getting really good < 30ms PING and that is going to be the Latency issue for most PC games. Here is how I chipped away at the PING kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4uXnGR6lKyrr6M I am currently getting 900Mbps down, with a 26ms PING.

[@andyartensol7585]

I have an old TV antenna on my house, you know with the fingers sticking off it, what could I use this for besides tv ? Could I use it for my straight talk band 13 booster ??

[@PeterC408]

Nope. I am afraid that Antennas are designed to capturer particular frequencies based on their wave length. Trying to catch 4G signals with an old TV antenna would be like fishing with a coat hanger.

[@jftman53]

Perhaps antenna connections can be OEM in the near future. Unless the OEM plan is to keep it from snagging more ‘bars’. Lol

[@PeterC408]

I think it has to do with support. They would rather support a single device instead of a bunch of different antenna solutions.

[@mrawesomo191]

Thank you so much for this video and others dealing with the T-mobile home internet. I've purchased the dynalink router as well and it's performing well. One question though...I'm not in quite as good of position to a tower as you are, I think, and as I move the antenna around outside I'm able to get decent signal with only one of the primary or secondary signals at a time. The strongest signal I've found is for my secondary signal but at that location it almost loses the primary. I can get the primary to a decent strength but then my secondary is pretty poor. My download/upload speeds are fine but my loaded ping, or what I need for gaming, is inconsistent at the hours I'd like to play. Is it possible to purchase another antenna like in your video and disconnect the other two built in antennas and get the benefit of find the best spot for the primary and secondary signals? Or would the gateway just look at one of the antennas and my performance remain the same. Thank you so much for all you do!

[@ChrisM-wv4gs]

i live in the woods but have a TMO 5g tower 3.95 miles from me but cant cant T-home

[@carlosfernandez7098]

Hello Peter, what about when T mobile says it is not offered in your area yet? I have Verizon phones and get 5G sometimes and tried to get their router but they also said I was not in the available area and T-Mobile online ordering also says it’s not available in my area too. Very frustrating.

[@PeterC408]

Signup to be on the waiting list (its free). When it does come to your area, it is first come first serve. Also, it will demonstrate interest in your area for this program. Sign up first and then tell all your neighbors. You will get on first.

[@carlosfernandez7098]

@@PeterC408 Thanks for the reply, I’ve already done that. What if I request one using my daughter’s address; she lives in a metropolitan area and I know she will qualify. Can I move the unit to another city and then try it. How would they know it is not at her address?

[@bchisholm3]

Very informative video. Question about the cell tower metrics. You mention you want RSRQ "below 10" and RSRP "below 80" but those values are negative so are you meaning below magnitude 10 and 80 (so absolute values of 9 and 70 respectively would be desired), or below as in MORE negative (values of -11 and -90 respectively would be desired)? TYIA!

[@Trenchv1]

this

[@EdwardPrestes]

The first part of your question is correct. You want a less negative number...

[@MrArcangel99]

I have this now for a week and am very happy with it. But there is a downside i am experianceing a lot of buffering throught the day some day are better than others but it still happens. I would like to know how to stop the buffering.

[@PeterC408]

What kind of buffering? Like for movies?

[@framingtheworldprod]

I did this an now am getting great UPLOAD speeds but my download speeds are like 1. have you heard of this? can you help me?

[@PeterC408]

Interesting. First thing first, try changing the leads. If you are using TMobile Home, that should work. The leads are not the same

[@framingtheworldprod]

@@PeterC408 I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you mean. What are leads?

[@PeterC408]

@@framingtheworldprod the are two leads (wires) that come from the antenna. One is for reference signal and other is main signal. Try switching the two wires.

[@TM-kh5hg]

How did you select antenna ports 1&2 vs 3&4? Waveform suggested 3&4

[@PeterC408]

I brought out one pair at a time. The fist pair is the easiest to get is 3&4.

[@randomgamer19170]

Which antenna works with the newest black box style T-Mobile 5 G gateway? I just got it yesterday

[@PeterC408]

This one. The proxicast.

[@trainrecktalks]

I was wondering which atenna ypu would recommend? I would like to do something indoor so I don't have to run cable through a wall. I am fairly close to my tower, but in my house I only have a few spots that will give me 3 bars. And a lot of times it will drop down to 2 bars and then we have all kinds of connection issues. So I definitely want to try an antenna to see if I can get more consistent signal and speeds. Thank you for your time and all your information.

[@PeterC408]

My first outdoor antenna was this one amzn.to/3HjcI5A It is small, magnetic and even has adhesive to stick to a window. I am still a big fan of this one for mobile applications. Quality product by people that really know what they are doing.

[@trainrecktalks]

Thank you!

[@44lilron]

I have my Mimo Antenna coming tomorrow, I am only getting 2 bars in my house but my speeds are still hitting about 200 MBPS down and 25Up and ping is about 20-35. I look forward to seeing what the increase will be..

[@PeterC408]

Me too. Let us know. I want to know what bands you are picking up before and after. Make note of the RSRP/RSRQ change, if you would. Take a look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHfClIqwhbSdq68 It will show you how to pull those and know where you tower is for pointing.

[@44lilron]

@@PeterC408 Quick question before install. I am smack dab in the middle of two towers but I am showing I’m on the South tower it says (tower 32026016999179) Should I point the antennas both to the south tower or should I point one at the south and one at the north tower?

[@wicked2407]

What type of extension cables do I need sma female on both ends?

[@PeterC408]

all the parts are listed in the description

[@brianhauser9639]

I got this and I only got 3 bars and I get 150 down and 48 up and 37ms latency I would love excellent I'll have to try this

[@zacharymenedez5698]

I get 1mbs download with 3 bars

[@ben11984]

"Thats why they have kids build these things" had we diein for a moment.

[@neganlucille8558]

Man so many people complaining about their worst speed. The fastest I got and it was only at night of course, was 7 Mbps. Any other time I'll get lucky if it even gets to 1.

[@realtoast7036]

Excellent! I purchased the bundle from your links. Do you know how far your T-M tower is away from you? My closest tower is around 2-miles away, straight shot. Does this make a difference?

[@PeterC408]

It makes more of a difference what is on that pole. My tower is 1.7 miles away and not a direct line of sight. I pickup bands 2 and n41 and I am thrilled with the performance I get. Now over 900Mbps (off peak)... pulling a 548 as we speak. Watch this video to learn about your signal and which bands you are getting kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHfClIqwhbSdq68