Extortion Through Tithing: Turning God Into a Mob Boss!

[@richardsegura8117]

My wife and I give anonymously….why? We left two ministries all because we were questioned about our giving. Finances are personal!…..period …..and God is very personal to our family.

[@lonecrusaider]

My last churches pastor lied about how much money I gave so I could take it off my taxes. I left.

[@derickrae]

The freedom to not be stuck with a compulsion of 10%. Allowed me to live generously and rejoice in my small gift.

[@salgar1234]

@@derickraea very helpful comment, thank you 🙏

[@hanichay1163]

Mature adulthood-what an idea! Some churches don’t want you being an adult, e.g. the Mormon church.

[@johnlee8885]

Tithes are for jews

[@gregoryahl5117]

The thing that keeps being overlooked is that tithing is food, not money. It was originally mandated because the tribe of Levi did not inherit land like the others. Instead, they were called to the priesthood and needed to be fed by the remaining tribes who had land to till. Sometimes money was substituted as an offering, but the money was then used to buy food, not airplanes and Armani suits.

[@jeanalice4732]

Damn right!

[@mombythesea2426]

Exactly. Plus, the Levites didn’t serve in the role of pastor. They were the judicial system. So it’s basically like paying taxes to support our local courthouses.

[@jackiwheeler6963]

Wow! This is great. Thank you!!

[@dnoslen6124]

Tithing was basically a thanksgiving meal with some of the food given to the Levitical priests

[@Anabee3]

Ty for sharing your knowledge & wisdom Gregory Ahl. 😊

[@R-Becker]

"I've been studying tithing for forty years" - Robert Morris --> forty years of eisegesis and scripture twisting by this wolf. Tithing only "works" for these charlatans who fleece the gullible, scripture calls it teaching for shameful gain.

[@kevinevans8892]

I always ask individuals who threaten folks with Malachi 3 on tithing that if God pours His curses on those who hold back their tithes, why is He blessing heathen celebs like Beyonce, Jay Z, Michael Jordan and Bill Gates? They would then say God sends His rain on the just and the unjust. I would then ask, ok then, so He is willing to richly bless immoral pro athletes and Hollywood celebs with millions but would then bring financial hardship on Christians for not following an Old Testament tithing system?

[@roniverson9282]

If someone would actually read the whole four chapters and realize he is rebuking the priests. They were keeping the good sheep and selling them on a black market and enriching themselves. There is no tithing requirement since the temple was destroyed. It was forbidden to bring tithes to the local synagogue or sacrifice any animals. Only a Levite could do that. Interestingly John the Baptist was a Levite and commissioned Jesus by water baptism into his ministry as a public rabbi. Also there was a requirement to be 30 years old to initiate a public rabbinical ministry.

[@jennystull981]

Amen

[@matthewcraig8926]

I Remember Robert Morris telling on TBN how he needed to know about how much his future son in law was tithing to his church before he'd bless their marriage. Talk about manipulation , and something that is very wrong according to Scripture. Just sickening!

[@RobertGareau-z2b]

@@matthewcraig8926 I agree matthew

[@robertherrera1234]

If these guys really believed what they are teaching they would be sending us the money!

[@AlyssaDDani]

Right ?

[@helenahall4893]

@robert, what you stated is actually the third tithe (poor man’s tithe) . The church building don’t do that. The thing these “pastors” don’t state is that tithing was a command given to the Israelites to tithe to the Levites, and it was livestock and produce, not money.

[@roberteanes7707]

These preachers keep the money and buy airplanes and mansions.

[@AlyssaDDani]

But not just for the Levite. How do you give the tithe to God? Give generously and cheerfully to the poor, instead of to the wealthy. Deuteronomy 26 13 Then thou shalt say before the Lord thy God, I have brought away the hallowed things out of mine house, and also have given them unto the Levite, and unto the stranger, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten them. Deuteronomy 24:20 When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow. Proverbs 22:16 ...and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want. Luke 12 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee. 13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. Leviticus 23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the Lord your God Proverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; I think there are enough churches in every city and town that every homeless person can be given a tiny home or a room with a shared kitchen and bathroom. Small churches can do a little and medium size churches can do much more and the large and huge churches can take care of hundreds or even thousands each. They take in millions every year. There are almost as many churches as there are homeless people. Huge mega churches can shelter hundreds.

[@AlyssaDDani]

@@roberteanes7707 Yeah, they do.

[@purplethistle397]

Preacher: “Give me your tithe so I can continue to live like a superstar.”

[@user-zr6pl6nb6z]

That's Kenneth Copeland in a nutshell.

[@wlknonsonshine]

​@user-zr6pl6nb6z Trust me it's not just Kenneth...the majority of them do this. It's a formula that they pass on to each other.

[@user-zr6pl6nb6z]

@@wlknonsonshine He's the only one I know much about.

[@Dilley_G45]

You have to admit, those private jets are not cheap to maintain. Have some understanding 😅 he neeeeeds your tithe

[@wlknonsonshine]

@@user-zr6pl6nb6z do you want a list?

[@millyfernandez6594]

”Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.“ - James‬ ‭1‬:‭27‬ ‭NIV‬‬ Thats where my tithing go.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

Amen 😊

[@jonslagill8864]

How do you do that? You ARE to give to your church. Your church is to be taking care of these people.

[@bsp5161]

James 1:27 never says to do that through a church, though, does it, Jon? If you do, that’s on you. But if someone chooses to bless a widow (a widow “indeed,” one with no sons nor daughters to take care of her), or if I or someone else choose to take care of a foster child or orphan directly, or with my time and possessions, that’s on me, and between me and Jesus.

[@emmanueljesulola3343]

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23-24

[@rhavenlynn5364]

​@@jonslagill8864 The church is the body of believers not a building

[@chazisflying]

Praise the Lord, who cares for us. The last few years of my life I’ve been extremely difficult with physical issues that have left me almost entirely housebound. I found myself in a very difficult situation, and friends of mine learned about it when they ask me a couple of questions. I was living in my car for about six weeks and in and out of bed and breakfasts at the same time for a total of about 4 1/2 months. My friend looked at me and said we just bought the little house across the street let me get to the key. I’m still having difficulty in my health and they have provided a home for me with heat, hot water, lights, and even food because they own a farm store. God clearly has not been listening to these other teachers because I’ve had very little to no money to give it to the last year and a half and somehow I have been completely provided for. It is both humbling and uplifting, and I am grateful for the Lord has been good to me.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

😊

[@lisadooley3872]

I am happy for you and to God be the Glory for providing for your needs!!! He takes very good care of me too and I thank Him everyday for all He does!!!

[@jennifersanders4837]

🙌🙌🙌🙌😭🙂

[@michaelnewzealand1888]

Praise the Lord Jesus

[@BlairAshley-i9w]

Amen ❤ God bless u , such a beautiful testimony . May the Lord bless you more and more

[@jtv_70]

I wonder how much of the millions they receive in tithes & offerrings do they give to the homeless, how many houses have they built for them? How many widows do they support on a monthly basis? 🤔

[@joycebegnaud9645]

I don’t see them doing it, they enrich themselves with huge houses, fancy cars, and fancy churches. I only see a small amount of churches that are actually helping people less fortunate.

[@salgar1234]

@@joycebegnaud9645and then abuse it by saying they are doing it ‘for the gospel, the kingdom, God’s work, lost souls, blah blah blah’.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

@@salgar1234 Yes exactly and my mother believes them. I used to because I was raised that way, but I’m Thankful I started studying for myself and God is showing me the truth ❤️

[@salgar1234]

@@joycebegnaud9645 I used to believe it too!! Faithfully tithed my 10%. Giving as much as I could believing the more I gave the more I’d be blessed! 🤪

[@purplestareye]

Mostly none! That's why some of us give & help directly to widows, orphans etc.

[@lancemarchetti8673]

I am incredibly greatful to Christian watchers who don't get tired of exposing false teachings like Tithing. I have a dear friend who is stuck in this false framework of thinking, but sadly is afraid to entertain any proper teaching on it.

[@richardbrown9760]

Read the first line of Malachi, its to Israel.

[@2196logan]

I have someone like that in my life. I can't get her to even listen to me, she thinks I am being brainwashed. Keep praying for them.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

God loves cheerful givers not compulsive ones.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

I have to do this or else. Sad. They are just making their leaders filthy rich !

[@richarderasmus4989]

The longs are not part of the kingdom of God because they don't have the holy spirit. Therefore whatever they teach does not count

[@MikesGarage96]

When I was 15 and got my first job, the pastor and associate pastor pulled me to the side after church and had a stern talk with me about making sure to tithe 10% and if I didn't, I was stealing from God, which was blasphemy and I would be doomed to hell. So glad I got away from that kind of religion.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

I was taught that as well, sadly my mom still believes it. She got angry when I tried to explain this to her 😢🙏

[@richardbrown9760]

​@@joycebegnaud9645Tell her to read the first line Of Malachi. It's to Israel not the church.

[@derickrae]

That's terrible! I'm so sorry that happened and I'm glad that you aren't in that church.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

@@richardbrown9760 Thank you, I sure will. I have just came out of all those false teachings not that long ago, so I’m not good at finding all the scriptures on it, when she’s asking. She just says, where did you hear that?? And she says well you’re grandma always gave her tithes and was always blessed. Yes blessed, in many ways, but never rich. And my grandmother was always happy with what she had 🥰

[@RobertGareau-z2b]

what is the name of the church and its pastor and associate that did this to you about tithing?

[@trueblue72-ul6lo]

My wife and I give Sometimes we have received a larger sum and have felt led to give 10% but not always and never as a law. Sometimes we give things to people who don't have. Sometimes we buy food for someone. "Your father sees in secret"

[@phaxad]

Tithes & offerings is called an ordinace in Malachi 3. In Colossians Jesus nailed those to the cross. Plus it was never money. It was crops, wine, .....

[@tiffany3319]

Amen! Colossians 2:14 It’s disgusting how they twist the scriptures. And Todd trying to act like his fake revelation is something new they were preaching this heresy when I was a kid in the 90s WOF churches that I’m so glad I’ve been delivered from!

[@richardbrown9760]

Also Malachi 1:1 says the burden is to Israel, not the church, which is to give freewill offerings.😊

[@jonslagill8864]

...the INCREASE, not the gross.

[@DaughterofZyion]

Cherry picking scripture 😂😂😂😂 Suns nailed to cross n

[@jeanalice4732]

Once I have some cinnamon to the church. I even sent some sage in an envelope to one if the shysters.😅

[@charlottechester6080]

I’m on social security, food pantries and food stamps and a strict budget. I give what I can, but I don’t have 10%. It has kept me burdened and stole my joy. My new church teaches as you do. Thank you.

[@richardbrown9760]

The new testament teaches freewill offerings, so give what you can when you can. The first line of Malachi is to Israel, the money grabbers fail to mention that.

[@kathleenking47]

However, I do know, a Baptist minister who tithes.... He has been married since he was 18, in 1988, and has 12 kids Abraham tithed to Melchizedek..half of his kids are married

[@richardbrown9760]

​​@@kathleenking47 Abra 27:22 ham tithed of the spoils, not of his own wealth. Read it.

[@derickrae]

YESS! I had 7 strokes between 2015-2018. I was disabled but God was extra merciful. I returned to working in 2021. Thankfully, during those years I was educated regarding tithing. It took us a couple of years to catch up. We had to save our mortgage. After catching up, I was finally able to give $10/week to my church. I cried from the joy of being able to give again. If I had still been in the tithing bad teaching I would have felt nothing but shame and guilt for it not being enough. Christ's teaching of the widow's mite and Paul's use of "without compulsion" set me free to find the joy in giving.

[@davidkarr5119]

​@@derickraeamen, I totally agree, thank you so much for sharing your testimony to the world, God truly Loves a cheerful giver, not of cause you have to, but because you can. 🙂🎸🙏🙏🙏

[@PoetiqueMs]

"Perhaps you too have a gangster relationship with God." Thank you, Robin. I had a good chuckle from that.😂

[@Phlogiston2312]

I laughed only because she said it so deadpan, even though she knows that it is ridiculous

[@Jessicajones11414]

That was the BEST! love you Robin!

[@Judahthanksgiving]

God WILL NOT be treated that way, they are fooling themselves and those that follow them.

[@wlknonsonshine]

Loved that! 😂

[@3kainos]

Think I’ll drive into the city and ask some gangsters about this. 🤔

[@oiputthatback7361]

THEY are beyond awful , having God disrespect and beat His children. I lost lots of money , jewellery and nearly my MIND sitting under these ministries.

[@richarderasmus4989]

These people in this video are worse. They are sending folks to hell with false Lutheran doctrine.

[@A.O.T.C]

How did you get out of It?

[@barcoxx]

So sorry to hear 🙏

[@monike9782]

I love Robin 😂🤣😂 she is so sweet!! "Perhaps you too have a gangster relationship with God" is epic!!

[@joycebegnaud9645]

I’ve heard Jesse Duplantis actually call God a gangster

[@sarahkirbach5040]

I tithed for years and I was poor. My finances never changed and the pastor made six figures

[@AlyssaDDani]

Elijah did not have land, or farm animals, nor stored up food. But he understood and knew the Lord who exercises lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. Elijah was prepared. The Lord visited him and baked him a cake on the coals and brought him water to drink and he went in the strength of that for forty days and nights. 1 Kings 19 4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O Lord, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers. 5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat. 6 And he looked, and, behold, there was a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again. 7 And the angel of the Lord came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee. 8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God. 9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the Lord came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah? 10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones Jeremiah 9 23 Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: 24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord

[@andrebriscoe2272]

Religion... the oldest grift ever.

[@The_Warrior526]

A former pastor of mine always said that "God only wants 10% - He lets you keep the other 90%". I said that the government sure doesn't! Another thing: They say give to God first and then the government... How is that even possible when the government already steals their chunk out of it before you get your net pay? smh

[@willard622]

Remember a former employee of Robert Tilton saying they would target the low income zip codes for mailing lists because they were the most desperate and likely to send money.

[@suechapel1443]

🥺😪 Robert Tilton is the worst!

[@Weissguys6]

Oh that’s so heartbreaking 💔

[@derickrae]

😡

[@ifeifesi]

It's no wonder why the 3 richest pastors in the world are in Nigeria. Desperate poor people are always exploited by charismatic word of faith charlatans.

[@lisadooley3872]

All of these guys are jerks and they will stand before God and give an account for their actions and it won’t be a good day for them

[@heathergreenakers]

Since when is the gift of salvation not blessing enough? He could never give me anything else, and His gift of salvation would still be far more than I deserve, even if I gave 100% of my earnings to Him (the church).

[@ktermalkut8332]

Obedience is BETTER than sacrifice - HIS Will is that we have a PERSONAL Relationship with HIM and that we know HIM as Our ONLY Teacher and Father LED by HIS SPIRIT at all times - Is that where you are? Your comment sounds humble but is is of The LORD GOD? Read 1Samuel 15:23, John 17, Matthew 23:8-10, Romans 8:14, Hebrews 8:10, Jeremiah 31:33-34

[@heathergreenakers]

@@ktermalkut8332 uh….what?

[@heathergreenakers]

@@ktermalkut8332 um…I have no idea what your question is, or how what you said has anything to do with my comment at all.

[@PACHIS99]

​@@ktermalkut8332 uh? Could you elaborate?

[@bettycarmella1127]

I’ve come to see the prosperity teachings on tithing as the ultimate pyramid scheme… the ones at the top get rich the ones underneath get poor🥺🙏🏽

[@ashelynne2]

Unfortunately it has been misused and abused. Whenever you give to the Lord, it us to be given cheerfully. Not in coercion or in fear or begrudgingly.

[@tiffany3319]

The Copeland clip is disgusting. What a shame. 😡

[@IAMBENNYBLANCO.]

that guy is a straight wacko

[@wayside70]

Tithing had nothing to do with money. Today it's twisted into money....wrong benny sin.!

[@jennystull981]

You are right, the tithe was always food.

[@Dilley_G45]

And if it WAS money instead of food, it was a bit MORE than 10%. "ASK THE PASTOR" made a video about it, very good that one

[@sammyo2583]

⁠@@Dilley_G45 no it was not money. If you had a long way to travel and couldn’t bring an animal,you could sell that animal and use the money, big difference.

[@Dilley_G45]

@@sammyo2583 same....but anyway

[@helenahall4893]

@Dilley, not quite. It was never money. The second tithe was the annual feast tithe. This was the second tithe. With this, if the designated place was too far to carry the tithe (food) you were allowed to buy what you wanted for the celebration. Deuteronomy 14:22-27.

[@lonecrusaider]

So many fall into the tithing trap. That was in the Law for the Jews. Now we give of the goodness of our hearts and that can be anything the Lord leads us to give, ... and when is the right time to give.

[@lonecrusaider]

I've quoted this verse before to those that argue... 2 Corinthians 2:17 New King James Version 17 For we are not, as [a]so many, peddling[b] the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

[@blueeyesftlaud6593]

Always in many ways

[@Angie-fn8op]

Abraham gave tithe to Melchizedek, before the mosaic covenant.

[@mombythesea2426]

@@Angie-fn8opWillingly. And Moses took up a freewill offering to build the tabernacle. And once they had enough, they told people to stop giving.

[@orbyfan]

I used to believe in tithing until a few years ago, when I came across a website arguing against it; I read the arguments and searchd the scriptures cited on the subject, and realized that the arguments against tithing as a New Testament practice are correct. The tithe in the Bible was never of income, but of food; the storehouse mentioned in Malachi 3:10 was the place where food was stored. When Jesus spoke to the Pharisees on the subject of tithing, he was not speaking to believers but to people who rejected Him; the were tithing mint, anise, and cummin, i.e., spices, not money. We recently had a short series of sermons at my church on giving, and some of us noticed that the email announcing the sermon series mentioned that the church's recent giving was way below usual levels. The sermon on tithing was one of the worst sermons I've ever heard, based on Malachi 3. Oddly, the pastor didn't mention verse 9, where the nation is said to be under a curse. If that verse is included in that passage cited in support of tithing, then it's obvious that it can't be referring to the church, because Romans 8:1 says that there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. If the prosperity preachers in this video really believe in tithing of income, why don't they tithe their own income? They would receive so much back in return that they'd never again have to preach on the subject. If we're to believe Robert Morris, Jesus saved him from drugs and immorality in order to turn him into a crook.

[@PandySearl]

How do we even know any of what he said to be truthful?!😑

[@brentgeurtsen]

Unbelievable how these ''preachers'' just so easily disrespect God like it's nothing

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Scary 😨

[@toolegittoquit_001]

They have no respect for God 😢 This doesn't end well

[@Judahthanksgiving]

They are going to be terrified when they meet God in Person 😮

[@sianswanepoel1060]

Have you noticed how they belittle the power of God. Then manipulate scripture to empower themselves

[@brentgeurtsen]

@@sianswanepoel1060 Exactly what they are doing. Unbelievable how they are intentionally deceiving people.

[@robininva]

…and the only way they can get their (erroneous) message across is to stomp and squeal and scream…. Get emotions up and running…. ALWAYS in the charismatic church…. Emotion abounds!

[@joycebegnaud9645]

They talk more about money than the gospel and it’s sad to see how much this is happening today 😢🙏

[@robininva]

@@ritadyer9295 same, sister! Freedom to love and give if you want to….OR not!

[@PopsSinging]

The first verse of Malachi tells you who the book is written to and about: 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

[@evaristopacheco4738]

Elon musk does not thithe at all, And yet God has blessed him with more than all of these false teachers put together. Amen. Love you all

[@zfontain1975]

Never thought about that before but true.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

Wow so true 😮

[@PandySearl]

Not everything is a blessings. The only true and perfect gift came from God. This is the blessing to the nations. Through Abraham all nations will be blessed. True blessing is knowing God as savior. 16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18 By his own choice, he gave us birth by the word of truth so that we would be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

[@kevinevans8892]

​​​@@PandySearlyou cannot deny that God, through His common grace, has blessed even sinners financially. You cannot ignore the many biblical passages that speak about financial prosperity in the Old Testament. In Genesis 37 God blessed the household of Potiphar for Joseph's sake. I'm assuming the blessing was agriculturally and financially. That's what he is saying. God makes His rain to fall on the just and the unjust. In Romans 2:4 it says that it is the goodness of God leads one to repentance. The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof. Michael Jordan, Taylor Swift, Derek Jeter, Bill Gates, the Facebook owner, ect, are all recipients of God's common grace despite not being in Christ. I doubt they tithe. Yet they are filthy rich

[@brewilliams6541]

Mathew 4:9 " I'll give you all this if you just now down and worship me". Said the devil to Jesus. Let us not forget that the enemy has always been one to offer riches and power in exchange for worship. he hasn't changed. The Bible also said in 1 Timothy 6:10 that " the love of money is the root of all evil. It's not a strange thing necessarily, or a new thing for the devil to give someone riches to further his cause. I also myself had to be corrected in this thinking but when we read the scripture, the truth is there. I pray the Lord continue to bless you and keep you.❤️

[@TaylorMaid-ho2xw]

Back in the day, my husband and I tithed faithfully annonymosly to our church. My husband ended up in a serious work related accident. We ended up in a very serious financial situation. I received an email from the Pastor's wife requesting I gift a week's meal to a household that was easily a millionaire farm family because the wife had given birth with their 7th child. We had 4 tins of tuna and 10 cans of soup.

[@Bebedollie]

🙏💔

[@AlyssaDDani]

Wow, and that's what they do.

[@jeanalice4732]

Bingo

[@AngelFace-fu2uv]

Sick and twisted

[@Angie-fn8op]

Imagine the open door for God to bless you if you had given what was asked of you. Think of Elijah and the poor widow. Perhaps it was a test of faith.

[@rhondahart2416]

the mob boss thing was great! Thank you for this it made me laugh! Blessings on you two!

[@AlyssaDDani]

Every mega church could build so many apartment buildings with permanent single rooms and shared bathrooms for the poor. Or build so many tiny homes villages. Medium and smaller churches could join up and work together. But for all the church's claims of helping; year after year the homeless population remains huge. It's not going down inspite of all the offerings and donations. The proof is in the pudding. If each church housed even two homeless folks each, but we know that large churches could do so much more. 380,000 Churches 582, 462 homeless People Why won't all those churches feed and house the poor??? What if 2000 churches across America each made sure to get 300 homeless people into tiny homes or small apartment units permanently. Don't kick them out later because the chronically homeless have permanent disabilities.The homeless usually each have more than one disability. That is why they are homeless. Now that is only 2000 churches, that still leaves 378,000 more churches that can do their share.

[@billylain7456]

Jesse says he is a tither. I bet his tithe goes to Jesse Diplantis Ministries.

[@michaelmerck7576]

But of course, got to keep.it in the family

[@michaelmerck7576]

With all the money Furtick has you would think he wouldn't have to wear his lawn mowing clothes to preach

[@michaelmerck7576]

Not everyone under the law had to tithe if they didn't own land and farmed or had herds they weren't under the tithe command

[@charleshill6132]

I'm showing my age but how does one have a gangster realationship with God it sounds like it would be void of all reverance

[@honestmann747]

I shouldn't be surprised at this point, but I was taken aback Todd's self-satisfied grin after he uttered that garbage. He thinks he's so clever!😢

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Tithing 10% is under the law. Now you have to be obedient to THE WHOLE LAW ! Good luck with that ,your gonna need it !

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Copeland is adding to scripture, scary again.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Where does it say in the new testament that you have to tithe? You've been studying it for forty years? It sounds like you think about money a lot.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Ouuuu they want that money 💰

[@Judahthanksgiving]

Benny wants to be even more filthy rich rich rich.

[@angie-bk1yc]

God bless! I always tried to keep up with tithing but I'm disabled. Now, I give what I can. Thank you for telling the truth. I never knew this until I got saved and found your podcast. You and your wife Robin, have greatly blessed me.

[@James_Bee]

Come on, baby, preacher needs a new jet!

[@kristalsea]

We had a sermon on this today. We were told to give as the Lord leads and to pray about how to give.

[@kevinrobey6583]

What does the creator of the universe and people need money for😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@toolegittoquit_001]

'Cattle on a thousand hills'

[@swagmanandy]

What does the Lord need money for, he wants our love praise and obedience.

[@BelindaGolding]

Amen

[@David-vh8ij]

What a timely video. I just moved and have been going to a new church. My back went out and couldn't go. I tuned into there live feed and it is a sermon on tithing which I know is not biblical in the new covenant!!

[@richardbrown9760]

Yes the first verse of Malachi says the burden is to Israel, but they won't teach you that. I wonder why?

[@David-vh8ij]

@richardbrown9760 I believe it is hard for some folks to change their belief on something they were taught without reading the text for themselves.

[@richardbrown9760]

​@@David-vh8ij correct.

[@smflatt]

Aside from being an outright lie, the most tragic thing I’ve seen is that a number of people I’ve known over the years forsook the church altogether over this tithe doctrine. It's hard to blame them when their church makes it seem like they have to always be buying their way into heaven.

[@dawn2390]

What about what this pastors are doing with the money? Did it go to God or to their new jet or home? People in these churches need to look where their money is going and not assume it’s going to God.

[@TheDahveeed]

"Michael Todd incorrectly teaches" is its own statement. You can just stop there 😂

[@sattaurnikki]

Preachers as wolves in sheep's clothing! 😢😢

[@MikejHamel]

Disgusting 😢 But I get it...they have a business to run.

[@joycebegnaud9645]

Exactly, a business

[@stanbe1974]

I guarantee none of these false teachers tithe!

[@suechapel1443]

Unless they tithe to themselves 😂

[@jeanalice4732]

To each other

[@sofiareids]

If we give and help others, we are showing the love the Jesus taught us to do. I think that many times God will bless us. But it isn't guaranteed. Tithing is old testament. We tithed for years and we're always taken care of by God. But the scripture says that Jesus will provide for us according to His glorious riches in heaven. So our tithing wasn't needed. God was taking care of us like He promised to. Then we have in Luke 38 "Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure-pressed down, shaken together, and running over [with no space left for more]. For with the standard of measurement you use [when you do good to others], it will be measured to you in return.” so the Lord wants us to give to others and help if we can. But not tithing. Tithing is giving to the already wealthy men in the church. My goodness. There are poor, hungry struggling people everywhere. Those are the ones we are to give to according to Jesus. And I do believe that when we do that, the Lord will take care of our needs.

[@tecora7419]

Ok tithed faithfully for years and not once did I become rich….Or receive a blessing I cannot contain

[@joesmith5247]

Lol crazy…I’ll be curious to know how many millionaires are bred at my soon to be former church in the next 10 years…this is sad 😞

[@guadalupeeg5034]

Seriously, if you want to tithe to a good cause. I need rent money for February...😢

[@bobdobbs7080]

I was in meditation and prayer last night I was awakened by a shining bright light Overhead a glorious spirit He gave me a message and you all need to hear it Send me your money!

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Preach 🙌 😂

[@guadalupeeg5034]

😂😂😂

[@derickrae]

😂😂😉 clever.

[@wlknonsonshine]

Address, please? 😂

[@lisadooley3872]

Sarcasm I hope

[@Eddievilar]

Hey,Copeland, give all you've got and then I might listen to you. May your actions match your words.

[@laurie9993]

Superb!

[@EDKguy]

I'm starting to think one of the biggest problems with the American church is, there is too much money. Buildings, salaries... Imagine if that money was used for real Christian charity? Widows, orphans, help mothers, the poor... We might look like the first century church.

[@nerychristian]

True. The first century church met in homes. They sure didn't own large properties or have comfortable salaries for pastors. And it's always funny how in most churches, it's only the main pastor who gets paid. But everyone else has to volunteer.

[@Dilley_G45]

50.000 $sound and light equipment and no money for a few 4×2 for a cross. Nothing wrong with a big building but a pastor shouldn't get rich from tithing. My old Church pastor in spite of having a 4 hear degree only got an average salary

[@nerychristian]

@@Dilley_G45 I think that only way to fix the problems in the modern church is to get rid of all salaries and tithes and offerings. That would immediately get rid of most charlatans and scammers. It would also rid churches of worldly minded leaders. Let the ministers and preachers be volunteers who have a good reputation in the church and have shown maturity and a desire to teach biblical truths

[@BelindaGolding]

I agree .

[@saltnlight8072]

I had the same thought recently. 👍🏻

[@PopsSinging]

One thing that has always stood out to me is that even if you were misguided enough to believe Malachi 3:8-11 apply to us today, then it reads that you should give out of your "Increase". That means for the layman that it is the 'Extra' you have.If you are living hand-to-mouth, you probably don't have an increase and should hold onto your money.

[@richardvoogd705]

​@wasntme7845exactly. Deuteronomy 14:22 touches on tithing, and talks about a tenth of what our fields produce. If we keep on reading, vv 24-25 mentions turning it into silver, i.e. money. But get this, v.26 says to buy whatever we like and eat it ourselves. Shock horror! Not put the money in the offering plate? Oh no! I've heard this explained away as referring to spiritual food, but that seems to be an unnecessary complication of the plain reading of the text.

[@carolinegreen7043]

Nice to see you Robyn. I can’t give any money as I don’t have any due to debt but God still blesses me mightily. So tithing is a joke.

[@PandySearl]

💯 %

[@jeanettelang1746]

It seems like Paul was more concerned about the poor

[@Judahthanksgiving]

God is talking about food.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

I would RUN from Prince ! He teaches that sin is no big deal because of grace.😢

[@pappap1702]

Ive always been amazed when Pastors claim we are no longer under the law but then uses Malachi to tell us how we rob God if we don't tithe

[@rachelnunez8651]

Gotta wonder: to whom do the "mob bosses" tithe? Oh, I bet I know. They throw the offering in the air and let God keep what he wants! Everything that falls, they get to keep.

[@michaelmerck7576]

That sounds like them

[@christinewyatt4794]

Didn't they have storehouses in the Old Testament so that if there was any lack, people could be fed, there would be more than enough if the land went into famine?

[@user-zr6pl6nb6z]

I think you're correct.

[@richardvoogd705]

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 makes for interesting reading.

[@michaelmerck7576]

The church is not the equivalent of the levitical storehouse

[@keepitsimple4629]

I can't listen to these usurpers. They disgust me so much. Flying around in their private jets and living in multi-million dollar mansions. The level of non discernment in their flocks is astounding.

[@Grandma428]

Really hard listening to the pastor/preacher clips. I’ve heard similar in person too. A former pastor went ballistic on tithing at least once a year.

[@Ian-nm2pg]

In Australian it is impossible to tithe, give God the first fruit the Government takes their share before we see a cent So I guess we’ll just have to be cursed according to these money grabbers

[@richardvoogd705]

Similar setup across the ditch in New Zealand.

[@charleshill6132]

I am blessed by the mercy and grace that wile I was still a sinner Christ died and had the full undiluted wrath of God poured on Him and every drop belonged to me justly and Christ Rightousness was imputed on to me, That blows my mind and I can boldly go to the thrown of grace and spend eternity with my King and Saviour I'm blessed

[@Oogobuk]

When they say, "God Can't.......... Unless you do......" That's not my God, He can do anything, and doesn't need me in order to accomplish his Good Pleasure..., Tell me, why would I serve a God that "Can't, unless..."? They are either tricked over time, or deliberately re-defining God.

[@lisadooley3872]

They want to lower Jesus to their level and upgrade themselves to His level!! It’s the very first lie told in the Garden of Eden, just repackaged!!! That very lie is what caused us to fall into sin in the first place!!!

[@TruthDoesMatter4Christians]

ROBBED?!?! You will never ever rob God of anything. This is mind manipulation. Great video

[@wnctg]

I haven't seen anywhere in the bible where it says to pay someone to give you the gospel. It daid to care for the widow, the fatherless and the poor.

[@ernestsire1924]

Not in defense of these false teachers but Paul explains it in 1 Corinthians chapter 9.

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Been waiting ⏰. lol 😂 Robyn and her perfectly deadpan delivery is back 😂

[@crazycatman5928]

This is a great channel. Thank you for the work you two do. God requires obedience..not sacrifice.

[@richarderasmus4989]

They are leading people to the hot place. Don't you notice they smile in the beginning then the smile dissapears and angry look replaces it. Maybe they have demons

[@crazycatman5928]

@@richarderasmus4989one can’t really judge by a smile though..but if they’re not biblical that’s a different story. I know the people they’re showing really are in error of scriptures, but this channel hasn’t done wrong by exegeting the scriptures in proper context at least from what I’m seeing. If they’re is something off biblically I would really like to know.

[@keyszen]

Name a denomination that doesn't manipulate the scriptures for money. Not only a "charismatic" issue.

[@michelemcintyre9749]

Was I the only one who thought it blasphemous for him to say he has a "gangster relationship" with God?????

[@janetdavis6473]

Copeland is great at carrying that Bible, not so good at reading it!

[@shanechostetler9997]

I picked up on that too, I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen a clip of him reading it.

[@davidkarr5119]

( 2 Corinthians 9:7) Is the only passage in the new testament relating to any giving to the church. No tithes mentioned no way in the new testament. Thank you Daniel & Robin for the truth on tithing today.v God bless! God loves a cheerful giver!❤️🎸🙏🙏🙏

[@tommystacker3286]

So, are we redeemed from the curse of the law Gal.3:13 or can we still be under a curse if we don’t tithe? Sounds like manipulative double talk from these false teachers. A well done video- thank you

[@jarvissense2211]

It's straight up the 'gospel of guilt'. I have known people that won't even go to church because of this evil manipulative lie, because they see it for what it is. A CON. When she said "gangster relationship with God" , the delivery was so dry and effortless. That made my day. Anytime someone brags like that it's always a red flag for me tho. People always braggin about what God supposedly told them but ignoring scriptural maturity.

[@Dilley_G45]

What a lousy God they have. A God that needs me his creation to unblock him. Shouldn't God tithe to me? As an unblocking fee? They keep telling us we "limit God" when we tell the apostolic gifts have ceased. No it's THEM who limit God

[@Cozy4evr]

My mom is 80 and now she gets it and she doesn’t get much from social security and she gives what she can and God has helped her through it all , she knows Jesus sees her offering and what she can give and she told me she never had to suffer with money in her life becasue what she gives it’s form her heart !

[@theAlphatron]

It is a simple argument here, tithing is food and not money. Yet in current day church it is conflated with free will giving. You either tithe from your livestock or your crop yield. The only time money is involved is when, in order to pay a certain tithe, you have to sell the tithe to travel to the place of meeting and then, once there, you spend the money on whatever you want to celebrate that particular feast. In truth, the tithe went to the Levites, then among them, another tenth went to the Levitical priests. Certain tithes were also for widows, orphans, and strangers in the land. The Levites lived off of that portion because the they had no inheritance in the land. The practice of tithing in the modern church is completely and utterly unbiblical. Read Deuteronomy 14.

[@3kainos]

These wolves: “Daniel, you’ve got a reeeeeeeal nice channel here. I’d hate to see anything… happen to it. For a small donation of $100/month, I’d love to be able to protect it.” 😂

[@EmilyJolaolu-rh4rx]

😁

[@Dilley_G45]

Cash, 20$ notes, not sequential numbers

[@Judahthanksgiving]

He is listening to himself. God don't talk like that.

[@Eddievilar]

Tithing was an obligation from 11 Israelite tribes towards the Levites.

[@cateclism316]

I even heard about a church where the pastor requested everyone's bank account numbers...my answer? NO!

[@michaelmerck7576]

Why would any preacher ever need to know anyone's bank account number but his own

[@2434-k3l]

That doesn’t make any sense lol. You can’t do anything with a bank account number

[@cateclism316]

@@2434-k3l Perhaps he also had the routing numbers for the local banks?

[@karencrawley7377]

I wonder if Malachi had a “gansta relationship “ with God when he was inspired to write this book. 😖

[@MillennialForChrist]

🤭

[@PandySearl]

😂😂😂

[@jackjones3657]

I'm curious as to people's thoughts on whether the pastor's salaries drawn from the church should be something parishioners/members have the right to see. Most churches I have attended do NOT reveal this to the attendees. I learned from someone in the know at a large Baptist church I had attended that the senior pastor was making well into a six-figure salary plus other perks and benefits, including personal security protection. None of this was ever transparent.

[@shanechostetler9997]

As a non profit, that information has to be made public.

[@pg6776]

Reminds me of how some parents will create fear in their kid's by telling them they had better behave, or they'll call the cops, or the cops will get them.

[@PandySearl]

Funny you should say that. I watched a video on KZbin that a mother did this to her young daughter. The mother was in a habit of doing it and the officer didn't like it and said it would cause her to dislike police. The mother wouldn't do as he asked so he arrested the mother. The officer wasn't having it. He felt bad for the child.

[@lisadooley3872]

When I was a kid I would have rather the cops come instead of facing mom and dad because that was scarier!! But I never got spanked for the same thing twice!!!

[@jeanalice4732]

​@@PandySearl The mother was a Karen!!! 😅

[@victorwiggins3213]

Mike todd lying thru his teeth

[@Judahthanksgiving]

I fear for these people.😢

[@MechaFenris]

Greedy pastors. Who'd a thunk it? these "pastors" (I use that term loosely) are shaking down their congregation to enrich themselves. Giving to the poor... helping those in need, feeding the needy. THAT is generosity and giving. Making sure there is a new "youth" building at a local church is NOT the same thing.

[@gabymeyer8003]

Thank you, Longs, for this video!

[@kingskid0312]

These people are horrendous with these views. May God deal with them. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@19jch76]

Im really pleased you have done this video, thank you, from John and Debra in England

[@richardbrown9760]

Malachi 1 : 1. The burden of the Lord TO ISRAEL. Get it? TO ISRAEL. NOT THE CHURCH. IF this aplies to the church then so do ALL the old testament laws, but the greedy pastors want to rob you not you rob God.

[@lindamoore9729]

What about Bill Gates and Bazos and all the rich men in the world?? Are they tithing? Is that why THEY are rich?

[@michaelmerck7576]

They don't even believe in God

[@lindamoore9729]

@@michaelmerck7576 And they seem to be blessed beyond measure.

[@Harold-si7eh]

The MOST IMPORTANT NOTICE ABOUT TITHING IS MALACHI 3:14 REMEMBER I SAID VERSE "14" TITHING IS A "ORDINANCE" AND THIS IS "BEFORE THE CROSS" IN THE "OLD TESTAMENT" *** NOW AFTER THE CROSS COLOSSIANS 2:14 "IT "ORDINANCES " ARE "BLOTTED OUT" AGAINST US AND NOW ARE "NAILED TO THE CROSS!!! IT IS FINISHED FOREVER!!! NOW WHEN PEOPLE TITHE THEY "WATER DOWN THE POWER OF THE CROSS" AND MAKE IT OF LESSER EFFECT,NOW IT IS ALL LOVE OFFERINGS AS GOD LOVES US WE GIVE TO GOD OUT OF LOVE AND " "NOT OF NECESSITY"" BEWARE OF LIARS,THIEVES THAT ARE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING WITH BLING,BLING HANGING ON THEM!!!

[@Izthefaithful]

By grace we are saved though faith not of ourselves but is a gift of God…….. But we are cursed if we don’t tithe 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️

[@pg6776]

Exactly

[@enjoying1515]

I do believe tithing/giving is important. Not for the purpose of receiving financial blessing back , though that doe happeen . The purpose is for the pastor to have an income and the church maintenance cost's. Plus of course the charities the church as a whole is involved in . My minister lives an average lifestyle, avarege home, average vacations . So our tithes do produce profit back in the real tangible of a minister that is there for the church body and not for his wallet .

[@Car1a]

It's the worst teachers saying tithing must be done. I highly doubt they're correct and biblically accurate here, while in so much else they're wrong!!

[@michaelmerck7576]

Money tithe is never commanded anywhere in the bible

[@ngozinwankwo5051]

Imagine Michael Todd saying he has a gangster kind of relationship with God. What! Is He your mate?God is so Holy and Mighty. That's very disrespectful

[@barbarciola1459]

I don’t tithe and don’t even go to a church because I can’t take the tithing garbage and other false doctrines in the church and God continually blesses me!

[@andrebriscoe2272]

The church has turned into a fast food restaurant...stay away 💯💯

[@andrebriscoe2272]

The church has turned into a fast food restaurant lol

[@donaldedmond4117]

Back in the 80's I understood that tithing is not for the Church. I remember sharing this with a sister of the church I was attending at that time. She began to weep as it dawned on her that she was not cursed if she didn't tithe. She was worried about "back tithes." She believed she had to pay for tithes she didn't pay earlier. There was no way she could ever get current on her tithes. Finding out the truth that we are not required to tithe was such a relief to her.