"Mediocre Public Speaker for Hire!" Bill Johnson at James River Church

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The Messed Up Church

The Messed Up Church

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@laurajewell779
@laurajewell779 5 ай бұрын
It’s like he’s talking to his psychiatrist because it’s all about him - his needs, his blessings, his promises.
@cwgoodrich
@cwgoodrich 5 ай бұрын
“The Holy Spirit rides in the chariot of scripture, and not in the wagon of modern thought “. Charles Spurgen
@camimons470
@camimons470 5 ай бұрын
His psychiatrist would prescribe antipsychotic medication.
@kamhs7770
@kamhs7770 5 ай бұрын
He talks and talks, yet says nothing.
@exvan3571
@exvan3571 5 ай бұрын
And gets paid. A LOT.
@dimerciflour5902
@dimerciflour5902 5 ай бұрын
He always creeped me out. Even when my ex pastor forced us to listen. So glad to be free ❤🎉😢
@bobdobbs7080
@bobdobbs7080 5 ай бұрын
it's the art of Bovine Scatatology. If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with the BS.
@palereaper
@palereaper 5 ай бұрын
He says a lot. If you watched the full sermon you would see.
@Rebecca_counting_it_all_JOY
@Rebecca_counting_it_all_JOY 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!
@bowzerthedog1130
@bowzerthedog1130 5 ай бұрын
Johnson does nothing but blather.
@bobdobbs7080
@bobdobbs7080 5 ай бұрын
An awful lot like Kamala Harris' nonsense.
@whyme7996
@whyme7996 5 ай бұрын
One of the best ways to tell if a person is just making stuff up is the inclusion of meaningless details used to pad out the story. Rather like when a college student has to write a term paper and they don't have a firm grasp of the subject.
@syrsafox32
@syrsafox32 5 ай бұрын
Blather Johnson.
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
Hey! That’s an insult to those who actually blather!
@Andrew-lx4gt
@Andrew-lx4gt 5 ай бұрын
​@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch He is making sense. I think you are so bent on finding fault with this man that you do not actually really understand Pentecostal and Charismatic teaching on Divine Healing and prophetic Words. To bring up is wife in this discussion, is quite an unkind and a sad thing to do. Would encourage you to read Andrew Murray book on Divine Healing. AJ Gordon's book 'the gospel of healing'. Colin Dye's book on Divine Healing. Dr Micheal Browns book on Isreal's Divine healer. You seem to twist Bill's words alot and put words in his mouth.
@jodicullinan8735
@jodicullinan8735 5 ай бұрын
I love it when he expects a response from the audience and they are quiet. Because nobody understands anything he is saying.
@rindarossouw1725
@rindarossouw1725 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that is why he says "you didn't get that".
@debs.213
@debs.213 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jeffreyp1855
@jeffreyp1855 4 ай бұрын
Kris Vallotton is just as bad. He has to constantly reassure himself and his audience that he is right.
@debbiebroom8391
@debbiebroom8391 5 ай бұрын
When I was deep into this nonsense I would have lapped this up. Now that I’m in a sound biblical church Bill. J sounds clinically insane! So grateful God opened my eyes and ears! Thanks for the work you do!
@LeticiaMartinez-b8o
@LeticiaMartinez-b8o 5 ай бұрын
When I was in this cult/ movement I would leave very confused literally I would say an octopus on rollerblades each sermon. Then I started to study the word of God for my self and realized they were preaching a different gospel. Thank you God for your love and grace.
@Savedbygrace22
@Savedbygrace22 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Praise God indeed🙏
@tiffanyfinley4834
@tiffanyfinley4834 5 ай бұрын
I am listening at work on earbuds. Bill's elaborate pauses, breathing, and mouth noises make me want to peel my skin off.
@comfortandjoy2957
@comfortandjoy2957 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jillthornton5512
@jillthornton5512 5 ай бұрын
Yes!! The heavy breathing!!
@lindse8922
@lindse8922 5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@judahtribe7
@judahtribe7 5 ай бұрын
Maybe he has heart problems
@oscarcat1231
@oscarcat1231 5 ай бұрын
Ha ha 😝
@Kirbygal55
@Kirbygal55 5 ай бұрын
Good on you Steve for doing this. It is such a shame that so many people follow these charlatans. Sometimes I feel so confused when I listen to Bill Johnson. He seems to try and say something so profound yet it is just what is commonly known today as a 'word salad'.
@FaithLikeAMustardSeed
@FaithLikeAMustardSeed 5 ай бұрын
Turd salad
@SusieQ3
@SusieQ3 5 ай бұрын
Or bovine scatology
@mattstorm6568
@mattstorm6568 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, but can I ask are the MessedUpChurch guys - and all of you as well - Christians, or "judeo-christians"?
@phyllisd.5640
@phyllisd.5640 5 ай бұрын
Empty words, Johnson.. The words that fill us are the Words of Jesus.. Not the speculations of men.
@lucysnowe31
@lucysnowe31 5 ай бұрын
This is painful to listen to. Several years ago, my husband and I used to listen to him on YT frequently -- I'm embarrassed to say -- but now I can't abide it. Just so much hooey.
@trinidad2450
@trinidad2450 5 ай бұрын
Hooey with a capital H!
@joannedunn2949
@joannedunn2949 5 ай бұрын
I used to listen to him too, now it’s almost unbearable. I honestly don’t know how I ever believed any of this! Thanking God for opening my eyes.
@rhondahart2416
@rhondahart2416 5 ай бұрын
You were brought out by the blood and you've grown. This happened to me too, not with Bill Johnson but with some of his other cronies and I thank the Lord He rescued me from this stuff. By this experience we can know what is right and wrong and warn others in this movement. Have a blessed day.
@rayray4192
@rayray4192 5 ай бұрын
@@trinidad2450it’s bullshit
@madcyantist8243
@madcyantist8243 2 ай бұрын
"I can't afford to fall subject to my imagination." OH, the IRONY.
@craighill5827
@craighill5827 5 ай бұрын
Was in a church years ago where the pastor spoke like this. An abundance of words with absolutely no meaning. Incoherent ramblings, word salad, clouds without rain.
@msnawrecka9786
@msnawrecka9786 5 ай бұрын
I am in the process of leaving an Assembly of God church. It’s the tongues and the repetition in songs and chants that kills me.
@kenid4144
@kenid4144 24 күн бұрын
Whatever you do, please beware of the yeast of Rome. As long as you stay away from the 3 Cs, you'll remain Biblical (Catholicism, Calvinism, Charismatics).
@wesl.946
@wesl.946 5 ай бұрын
I made my own “Bill Johnsonisms.” 1. "When you align your strength with god's heart, inner peace flows effortlessly." 2. "By clutching his throne, you unlock the wisdom to evolve." 3. "As you declare your opposers, the spirit illuminates your path." 4. "When rest in the divine journey, your spirit ascends to heavenly realms." 5. "By perceiving setbacks as divine setups, you command miraculous comebacks." 6. "When you trust god's secrets, you transcend every obstacle." 7. "By surrendering to the sacred flow of god's voice, you uncover profound tranquility." 8. "When you cultivate mindfulness in god's presence, you manifest future blessings." 9. "By honoring your true essence in Christ, you harmonize with god's prophetic plan." 10. "When your life radiates encounters, you channel the unseen world."
@ronelaalexe4857
@ronelaalexe4857 5 ай бұрын
A HUGE menu of Word SALADS!... So pathetic!... EMPTY words!!! And the gullible are applauding him!.... So sad!
@kathyd456
@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын
Nicely done... can't tell where he ends and you begin.. 😄 very clever.
@theparadigmshift74
@theparadigmshift74 5 ай бұрын
Hes going to offer you a job! All this sounds so new agey
@Lillibulero1
@Lillibulero1 3 ай бұрын
That's brilliant.
@nicolevance802
@nicolevance802 5 ай бұрын
It’s like one applause line after another I love when they don’t land and it’s just silent where he expects applause 😂
@Savedbygrace22
@Savedbygrace22 5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@joaquinfigueroa3640
@joaquinfigueroa3640 5 ай бұрын
He's a failed comedian.
@debs.213
@debs.213 4 ай бұрын
😂
@robine1018
@robine1018 5 ай бұрын
Legacy, legacy, legacy. That young man acted demonic to me.
@laurajewell779
@laurajewell779 5 ай бұрын
I can’t watch it. I just imagine his parents seeing their son go through that torment.
@namelesswreck6383
@namelesswreck6383 5 ай бұрын
Yep.
@oceanelf2512
@oceanelf2512 5 ай бұрын
Does Heidi believe there is some kind of magic in repeating the word "legacy" over and over? I don't know of that young man was acting or if he really got himself so worked up that his mind played tricks on him so that he believed something was really happening. The mind can do some incredible things under the right circumstances. She could stare at me and chant anything she likes, and nothing would happen to me.
@ourlove8410
@ourlove8410 5 ай бұрын
She was a witch and she was casting a spell you could hear the repeated words and how they became entangled and actually almost sounded like a chant that was spellcasting it's pure evil and it is absolutely going through these wizards and warlocks... It is throughout.. the Masonic lodges.. it is throughout the temples the synagogues it is everywhere they are hiding behind who they really are part of the brotherhood Illuminati and they are absolutely involved in taking God's word and twisting it as that is what satanists do... God bless you.. keep your eyes on Jesus
@michellewarren5842
@michellewarren5842 5 ай бұрын
@@oceanelf2512Shake-a-ba-ba !
@rosemarypeto2316
@rosemarypeto2316 5 ай бұрын
Who can understand anything he is saying. He goes from one incoherent thing to another. It is so painful to listen to .
@JD-Reddev
@JD-Reddev 5 ай бұрын
Nobody knows bro. It's designed to make people dumb.
@jp22344
@jp22344 5 ай бұрын
And with the meaningless pauses. He clearly thinks that a truly powerful speaker must make long pauses and that makes him great. My 3 year old granddaughter makes a whole lot more sense than Bill Johnson.
@ronelaalexe4857
@ronelaalexe4857 5 ай бұрын
True!
@Aaron-hype
@Aaron-hype 5 ай бұрын
Watch a sermon over this cherry picked video and he's extremely coherent. The narrator is rediculous. Shame on you narrator for commenting about his wife that died of cancer and naming some areas where she had received healing in her life yet you shame Bill for not mentioning her lack of healing from cancer. Shameful
@ronelaalexe4857
@ronelaalexe4857 5 ай бұрын
@@Aaron-hype Your hype is too high that you are misspelling words! .... You can have your opinion and also the right to be wrong! The "narrator" is exposing the facts, not mocking an unfortunate situation! Get your facts right! You are incorrect in your assumption! The FALSE teachers are EXPOSED for the very reasons that you seem so upset about!...
@lindseyh5735
@lindseyh5735 5 ай бұрын
Steve, your effort here really stands out. This may be one of the best videos you've made. Thank you.
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@cicimelendez4557
@cicimelendez4557 5 ай бұрын
Ah, yes. The sleepy Joe of the NAR. 😂 I feel like if youre having trouble falling asleep, all you gotta do is put Bill Johnson on in the background and you're good.
@bluegarlic733
@bluegarlic733 5 ай бұрын
I literally fell asleep!😂
@energizer7354
@energizer7354 5 ай бұрын
I used to when I was in the NAR trap. I always though he was too much on his high horse with is fast complicated rhetoric with odd sayings that sounded like he was intelligent but didn’t make much sense. He was exhausting to try to understand. Which was great to fall asleep to. 😂
@Rebecca_counting_it_all_JOY
@Rebecca_counting_it_all_JOY 5 ай бұрын
LOL 💤
@cicimelendez4557
@cicimelendez4557 5 ай бұрын
@marklucero2524 It's a joke. It's really not that serious. Joke or not, disagreement or not, this man is not a good public speaker. He drags on for hours, saying a bunch of vague things that have no meaning. One can acknowledge that and make a lighthearted joke. Its not nearly as brash as the apostle Paul when told the circumcision party to go all the way and chop off their private parts to prove their holiness.
@cicimelendez4557
@cicimelendez4557 5 ай бұрын
@marklucero2524 ....okay? Good for you, I guess? You don't have to watch the channel then if you don't like it. It's a simple solution. I'm also not sure what that has to do with my point. Calling out false teachers for the burden that they heap on the body of Christ by making teaching the imaginations of their own mind is not gossip.
@atsipan
@atsipan 5 ай бұрын
When Bill says that back in the day they had occultist visit their meetings, he's actually talking about Randy Clark 😅 "it was fascinating"
@NewYawkahBroad
@NewYawkahBroad 5 ай бұрын
Another excellent exposé video, Steve. Well researched. Very informative. I always love the humorous editing. Keep up the great work!
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@Ricorocs
@Ricorocs 5 ай бұрын
I'm amazed at how much Jim Jones (light stuff) is going on in churches instead of walking out people will do anything no matter how silly and unbiblical it is if they are told to do it they will do it.
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have no idea how people can waste their time listening to him say nothing.
@birdlover-zu7ez
@birdlover-zu7ez 5 ай бұрын
They don't realize that he is saying "nothing"
@ChristFollower1981
@ChristFollower1981 5 ай бұрын
Bill Johnson speak is nothing but word salad; and the people are programmed to applaud this…🙃🙄
@exvan3571
@exvan3571 5 ай бұрын
Yessir, and donate millions to these charlatans
@robertkeeney3898
@robertkeeney3898 5 ай бұрын
I think there are key players near the front who are the most vocal ones. It's surprising how many churches do this, whether intentional or not.
@robertkeeney3898
@robertkeeney3898 5 ай бұрын
I think there are key players near the front who are the most vocal ones. It's surprising how many churches do this, whether intentional or not.
@ChristFollower1981
@ChristFollower1981 5 ай бұрын
@@robertkeeney3898 Totally agree! It’s a fact that Elevation Church lines the front seats with ra ra cheerleaders to pump the rest of the people.
@ronelaalexe4857
@ronelaalexe4857 5 ай бұрын
So true!
@centenaryman3543
@centenaryman3543 5 ай бұрын
Excellent work, Mr Kozar. If only Bill Johnson could just stand still and preach from the word of God. That endless walking about, pontificating about his own ideas gets very tedious. I've been a Christian for 36 years, and I was in the charismatic movement, but I left an NAR church a year ago. It wasn't NAR when I started there 19 years earlier, but slowly, by stealth, it came in and absorbed everything. The last sermon I sat under before I left made it clear that if you disagreed with the teaching, you knew where the door was. Indeed, I did, and I used it. The NAR critics are absolutely on point in their criticism. I experienced mysticism, numerology, and repurposed occultic practice, all in the name of Christianity. The NAR roots go very deep, way back in fact, to mostly, non Christian ideas and theories. They will adopt anything remotely spiritual and attempt to use it for themselves. I would love to have a debate with someone like Daniel Kolenda, who defends their theological stance as I personally have been there and experienced it for myself, and there is no defence. Again, great work.
@Savedbygrace22
@Savedbygrace22 5 ай бұрын
Great comment and praise God he gave you eyes to see that. God bless 🙏
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 5 ай бұрын
Why not contact Kolenda. I too am Charismatic but I lean towards the Reformed camp when it comes to interpreting the Bible
@tamipalin8171
@tamipalin8171 5 ай бұрын
His pauses waiting for applause are so incredibly evident, and not a little annoying!!
@DW-yq4zn
@DW-yq4zn 5 ай бұрын
He acts like he’s on some sort of drug and didn’t prepare at all. How he can even talk about the importance of scripture when he’s been preaching and writing vain imaginations for years. I’ll bet Bill knows how bad the sermon was and asked the church to remove it.
@birdlover-zu7ez
@birdlover-zu7ez 5 ай бұрын
@DW-yq4zn He's under the power of a counterfeit spirit (kundalini)
@Matt-nh2hp
@Matt-nh2hp 5 ай бұрын
Even unsalted pasta is more stimulating than this "sermon"
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 5 ай бұрын
So the ‘words’ that some rando MAY pray over me is more important for me than the given WORD of God ? That’s a nah from me dawg 😐
@eugenejoseph7076
@eugenejoseph7076 5 ай бұрын
I have been given by the Almighty gifts of discernment that have saved me from deception from these characters, TWO EARS!
@lyndarogers8749
@lyndarogers8749 5 ай бұрын
😂
@T-Mary76
@T-Mary76 5 ай бұрын
Says it all when he’s walking to and fro talking then gets to the Bible and it’s shut 🤦🏻‍♀️
@katherinebangle540
@katherinebangle540 5 ай бұрын
Bill - you ALWAYS "fall subject to your imagination." Those interpretations must be from your imagination. They certainly don't line up with scripture!
@teresafarrell6457
@teresafarrell6457 5 ай бұрын
Well said. 👍
@lyndarogers8749
@lyndarogers8749 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, he is so annoying. And I hate those long pauses when he stands there smirking, waiting for applause
@birdlover-zu7ez
@birdlover-zu7ez 5 ай бұрын
Yes!!! That smirk is sickening and then that weird subtle laugh that he does too!
@markdyson2608
@markdyson2608 5 ай бұрын
Now I see the strategy he needs his little boy ego stroked so he repeats something till he gets applause
@KAlphonso
@KAlphonso 5 ай бұрын
Think about how empty a person has to be to be able to make up stuff like this. And the terror that must come on him in those infrequent moments when he is reconnected to his conscience. It must be terrifying and terrible.
@KD_9494
@KD_9494 5 ай бұрын
Excellent observation
@melissamaertz
@melissamaertz 5 ай бұрын
I honestly cannot stand Bill Johnson’s teachings.
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
Tell me about it!!
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when the Bible is not the focal point of your preaching ministry
@anthonylomonte3437
@anthonylomonte3437 5 ай бұрын
That's because it's not the shepherd's voice
@Francine1117
@Francine1117 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve for watching and listening to this awful false teacher! I cannot stomach it! I appreciate your ministry! 😎❤️
@zachindes
@zachindes Ай бұрын
I go in seasons of watching and commenting on these. It’s almost unbearable to watch but your work is so important.
@LisaLisa-jj1dp
@LisaLisa-jj1dp 5 ай бұрын
Bill says he's a devoted consumer of proper products...yet he refuses to pick up a Bible and be a devoted consumer of God's word.
@4paullou6
@4paullou6 5 ай бұрын
Wow, it’s as simple as that! Very clear and concise observation.
@brendasmith7130
@brendasmith7130 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for exposing these false teachers
@crystalwang7372
@crystalwang7372 5 ай бұрын
I wish someone could find that poor guy from the Heidi Baker video & interview him.
@Classic_Rock_Chick
@Classic_Rock_Chick 5 ай бұрын
That would be interesting. If I were him, I would never return to Bethel or anything related to Bethel.
@Summer_Daze
@Summer_Daze 5 ай бұрын
I often wonder about him and if he is ok.
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 5 ай бұрын
Right??
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 5 ай бұрын
@@Summer_Daze So do I.
@gigi2091
@gigi2091 5 ай бұрын
What happened to him?
@SolusChristus1976
@SolusChristus1976 5 ай бұрын
I honestly didn't understand anything he said. Nothing made any kind of sense at all. He's not smart and he wants so badly to look like some Great philosopher.
@Octolubz
@Octolubz 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the after story of the guy Heidi Baker touched? I hope he's ok 😢
@steveguti6452
@steveguti6452 5 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was Buried and he rose Again the third day praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all..
@KJ-lb4tj
@KJ-lb4tj 5 ай бұрын
Are you preaching to people or wanting to say anything about the actual video?
@technodan3083
@technodan3083 5 ай бұрын
He's just pathetic.
@arielflyer6113
@arielflyer6113 5 ай бұрын
Peace, & blessings to you.
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 5 ай бұрын
Thankyou Steve, God bless you, hope your family are doing ok🙏🌱🌄
@whyme7996
@whyme7996 5 ай бұрын
My church is not a charismatic one. However, during Bible study, there are a few members who are clearly operating under a charismatic mindset. The pastor tends to roll his eyes (as discreetly as possible). I unintentionally upset them by actually quoting the Bible in context. I'm not one to standing down. But, we end up agreeing to disagree. I realize that, being human, we are all wrong in some aspect of our understanding. I am a late in life convert of 8 years now, and there have been many people that I've met who have been raised in the church but don't know the Word. I find it baffling. I have had other members thank me for being vocal at the studies and presenting viewpoints that they hadn't considered. I don't know if they were overwhelmed by the charismatic leaning ones before I got there, or not.
@WilliamtheWorst
@WilliamtheWorst 5 ай бұрын
Does Bill's word salad come with unlimited breadsticks?
@KD_9494
@KD_9494 5 ай бұрын
How is this comment not pinned 😂
@n.o.9575
@n.o.9575 5 ай бұрын
8:37 "Floppin n droppin"? I cannot stand Kris Valloton.
@JackN808
@JackN808 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Jesus: "for by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned". MT 12:37 This scripture alone will judge the false teachers. aka Bill Johnson 🙏🙏🙏
@namelesswreck6383
@namelesswreck6383 5 ай бұрын
I don't know how Heidi Baker can touch scripture and not burst into flames.
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 ай бұрын
BEST comment ever!
@endtimesbiblestudy3948
@endtimesbiblestudy3948 5 ай бұрын
I teach a weekly Bible study dealing with End Times Bible prophecies, which has caused me to REALLY dig into God's Word, doing massive amounts of research and study each week, with a literal approach, Scripture interpreting Scripture, plus studying the history and culture of the time. IT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMATIVE! The Word is just so AMAZING and I've really lost patience with so-called pastors and other "bible studies" that are NOT DIGGING INTO THE WORD! That was basically 45 minutes of nonsensical drivel from Bill Johnson. Thanks for an amazing video exposing this nonsense! Praying for those who have fallen under this deception.
@lyndarogers8749
@lyndarogers8749 5 ай бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel. I'm very interested in eschatology.
@endtimesbiblestudy3948
@endtimesbiblestudy3948 5 ай бұрын
@@lyndarogers8749 thank you! I hope you will be blessed!
@elpapi4899
@elpapi4899 5 ай бұрын
He is so subtle in his erroneous approach to the Bible and God's nature that if you don't know your Bible you are screwed. What is interesting is that he talks about demonic stuff and yet what he is into is very questionable and even thought of as being demonic.
@michellewarren5842
@michellewarren5842 5 ай бұрын
This was sooooo hard to watch 🙄. All these stories and no expounding on the Word. I have so many friends who follow him it’s just sad. Thank God for your channel I have learned so much and I am grateful for you and Paulette brother
@ericchill864
@ericchill864 5 ай бұрын
Vipers and wolves are everywhere.
@Car1a
@Car1a 5 ай бұрын
He'd need to have some lessons or classes before aspiring to mediocrity.
@bobdobbs7080
@bobdobbs7080 5 ай бұрын
Every morning, about half passed six, I have the holy moment on my throne...Bill.Thanks for the Mumbo de la Jumbo TMUC
@rickorider
@rickorider 5 ай бұрын
Gosh his life and what happens to him is so important. Its all about what God can do for him. Paul desired to know nothing but Christ and him crucified. Bill Johnson is so enthralled with himself thats all he can talk about. This is what the "prophetic movement" promotes. 😢
@kathyhart2309
@kathyhart2309 5 ай бұрын
Oh! This is at that "church" that just hosted that men's conference where Mark Driscol called out the host as having a "Jezabel Spirit."
@Orquet-qj2nf
@Orquet-qj2nf 5 ай бұрын
They should take a look at the women of Bethel leadership if they want to find something Jezebel-like.
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 5 ай бұрын
@kathyhart I won’t defend his accusations of people having a “Jezebel spirit” but was that the conference that had a stripper on stage? If so, then I actually am on his side in calling that sacrilege out.
@charlestonscnative9083
@charlestonscnative9083 5 ай бұрын
​@@samueljennings4809it came out later that that interaction on stage was all prearranged (even the calling out) to draw attention to one of their new books. None of them seem to fear God.
@Miss.G.H
@Miss.G.H 5 ай бұрын
@samueljennings4809 Driscoll was just doing that to get publicity on his new book none of it was genuine. And the theology is bad too. It was a complete act from both sides. I don't know why he didn't just pay to get it popular like last time. A lot of people seem to forget how bad he is and unrepentant.
@LaowaiTaipei
@LaowaiTaipei 5 ай бұрын
Some years ago I attended a 2-day "conference" at Global Awakening in Lancaster, PA. Among the parade of speakers were Randy Clark, Patricia King, Heidi Baker, Larry Randolph, and a few others I can't recall. One by one they took the stage, and each began their remarks by heaping praise on Randy Clark and Global Awakening. Then, they held up their latest book, CD/DVD, "training package", whatever they were selling and talked about it for a while, ending with something along the lines of, "These are available at the ministry table out in the lobby, and the first X number of people who buy it will get, as a free gift, _________!" After this they would begin their unscripted presentation, typically ramblig and incoherent, but "spirit led," so that made it not only OK, but even better. Form over substance, that is - if you spend your time on stage getting farther and farther "drunk in the spirit," the crowd loves it, and whether or not you're saying anything of substance is inconsequential. At some point someone starts playing the keyboard in the background, and the altar call portion begins - who wants to be filled with the holy spirit? Who is being drawn by God to come forward to have this celebrity's hands placed on them and get a special impartation (complete with manifestation - falling down, laughing uncontrollably, or even convulsing)? OK folks, now I've done my part, now we pass around the donation cards and collection buckets, and you do yours! I left completely disgusted.
@rickorider
@rickorider 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely true. Been there and stood in the line only for nothing to happen and going home delusional. Glad to out of it all and reading my bible and understanding how to rightly divide it as Paul instructed.
@BrotherJohnElving
@BrotherJohnElving 5 ай бұрын
Blessings from Canada 🇨🇦
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 5 ай бұрын
Hey Brother John 👋
@namelesswreck6383
@namelesswreck6383 5 ай бұрын
Brother John 😃
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 5 ай бұрын
I wanna visit Canada 🇨🇦
@kathyd456
@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын
Hey there fellow Canuck! Sherwood Park, Alberta campus here, eh?
@ingemojonsall3402
@ingemojonsall3402 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this very informative video, and the comments. Love the clipps of his repetitions of things he´s said in the past.
@ObservationStation_77
@ObservationStation_77 5 ай бұрын
Steve I ❤your sense of humor! Mediocre Indeed!,, ugh Bill Johnson is so dull
@thegrigs777
@thegrigs777 5 ай бұрын
As is literally...EVERY CESSATIONIST MINISTER EVER..not to mention cessationism is total heresy
@NoApologiesTeam
@NoApologiesTeam 5 ай бұрын
Well, there ain't no beneficial calories in that enormous word salad
@Open2Reason
@Open2Reason 5 ай бұрын
It’s a Cesar word salad - nothing but lettuce and croutons.
@energizer7354
@energizer7354 5 ай бұрын
“Father by nature and fathers look for opportunities to reward”?!?! What a dumb thing to say. My dad wasnt a horrible father but he certainly did not look for opportunities to reward me as a kid no matter how hard I tried and again he wasn’t a bad dad either.
@alandavis5388
@alandavis5388 5 ай бұрын
The crickets are a nice touch. 😂
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 5 ай бұрын
Yes!!!!!!
@michaeljguy
@michaeljguy 5 ай бұрын
Bill Johnson twists that exact same passage in John 5 - in "When Heaven Invades Earth" (2003) and "The Physics Of Heaven" (2012) - to basically say that those who hold to just studying the Bible risk missing encountering God in real life, or risk only becoming prideful. He hasn't changed one bit.
@savtelly3817
@savtelly3817 5 ай бұрын
He didn’t say there’s a lot of cultic stuff going on did he?? No self awareness.
@FaithLikeAMustardSeed
@FaithLikeAMustardSeed 5 ай бұрын
He "had them come to the church"
@Marlaina
@Marlaina 5 ай бұрын
He's the one who said we have to "take back" what the occult stole from God. You know, all the detectable abominations God said not to do.
@kerriferguson2023
@kerriferguson2023 5 ай бұрын
It's called projection!
@frizzyrascal1493
@frizzyrascal1493 5 ай бұрын
Cultists think everyone else besides them is cultish.
@Open2Reason
@Open2Reason 5 ай бұрын
@@MarlainaThat’s teaching that comes directly out of The Physics Of Heaven, a book for which Bill Johnson wrote 2 chapters, and Kris Valloton wrote the forward.
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 5 ай бұрын
He's way, way too comfy standing silently expecting applause. Wouldn't you just die of embarrassment if you had to do that even for one second? But it's his favourite thing.
@mppar3104
@mppar3104 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much all he does is talk about himself !!! I really can’t stand the sound of his voice !! The true Word is never preached ! I appreciate your channel !!! ❤
@driver1421
@driver1421 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you record these false teachers and expose them before these cults pull there videos down.
@markhaszoe-life6337
@markhaszoe-life6337 5 ай бұрын
Brother, you're getting really good at exposing these fools. Yes, I'm calling them fools, anyone that twists Gods word is a fool.
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 5 ай бұрын
Waste of time to listen to Bill Johnson and anything he has to say, except the word "Amen the meeting is over."
@darylrahfeldt2162
@darylrahfeldt2162 5 ай бұрын
Wow, he has a gnostic view of the Bible and spirituality!
@matthewmattson7584
@matthewmattson7584 5 ай бұрын
Honestly with Bill, salvation is a riddle wrapped in a puzzle with both surrounded in enigma! Wow! Wow? Really? Bill says nothing!
@rubewaddell1704
@rubewaddell1704 5 ай бұрын
Last place I would have thought I would have seen a Winston Churchill quote re Russia but it kind of works. Well played.
@michellerice8749
@michellerice8749 5 ай бұрын
Perfect description of him
@kathyd456
@kathyd456 5 ай бұрын
Steve, it will bring me such joy, if at some point in one of your videos when the 'pastor' drones on and on... you can input one of those old Monty Python clips where, if I recall, there is a large crowd yelling, "Get on with it!!". Please...? 😁
@darylrahfeldt2162
@darylrahfeldt2162 5 ай бұрын
His view of revelation is the same as that of Rome. It starts with the Bible, but continues with human words.
@Orquet-qj2nf
@Orquet-qj2nf 5 ай бұрын
It starts with the Bible, takes a detour through Chicago without a map, stops to smoke something it shouldn't in Narnia, and was last seen riding a scooter through the Mos Eisley cantina.
@birdlover-zu7ez
@birdlover-zu7ez 5 ай бұрын
@@Orquet-qj2nf Lol...
@chriswatson276
@chriswatson276 5 ай бұрын
There are zero ways to impress God.
@palereaper
@palereaper 5 ай бұрын
“This is my son, in whom I am Well PLEASED” Don’t put God in a box man
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 5 ай бұрын
@@palereaper Said Son is also God. Don't play games with the Word.
@Marlaina
@Marlaina 5 ай бұрын
​@@palereaperHe was talking about Jesus, the only one who fufilled the law. God puts Himself in a box by not deviating from what He has said and demonstrated.
@Prognosis__
@Prognosis__ 5 ай бұрын
We bless God..not try to impress him
@palereaper
@palereaper 5 ай бұрын
@@Marlaina that’s not putting himself in a box, that’s revealing who He is
@camimons470
@camimons470 5 ай бұрын
You do not do your laundry. Your laundry does you. If your hunting dog points at a sheep your rabbit will ascend. Reading your Bible for knowledge is akin to the dark forest. If your shadow overshadows you your possibility will go surfing.
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
The yellow frog knows which way to spin the yarn. When you get to your destination, you are there. All of your dreams are a direct response to your vision, but your response to that vision will determine your dream. (Wow, it’s fun making up stuff!)
@rolivares84ro
@rolivares84ro 5 ай бұрын
Mr. Kozar listening to B. Johnson is torture! He doesn't make any sense.
@lindse8922
@lindse8922 5 ай бұрын
"This air is pregnant." Wow, thanks for this profound 'word', BJ.
@letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350
@letuswalkinthelightofthelo5350 5 ай бұрын
In psychiatry, we call this “word salad”.
@barbaramavis2071
@barbaramavis2071 5 ай бұрын
Another psych term that applies to this is "inappropriate behavior."😂
@matthewmattson7584
@matthewmattson7584 5 ай бұрын
That kid is tortured!
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 5 ай бұрын
Looks to me like he's very obedient and trying hard to please her.
@matthewmattson7584
@matthewmattson7584 5 ай бұрын
@@robynmarler1951 that’s Very possible too!
@sophierodriguez5042
@sophierodriguez5042 5 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, I have been watching your channel, Fighting for the faith, and Justin Peters since Autumn last year. I started believing all of the Charismatic stuff that was on social media and it almost ruined my faith, but praise God he opened my eyes to see the deception and led me to biblical sound channels like yours! Now I am looking for a confessional Lutheran church near me. God bless you and Paulette! ❤
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 5 ай бұрын
Yay! Praise God!!
@elained7006
@elained7006 5 ай бұрын
Why Lutheran?
@sophierodriguez5042
@sophierodriguez5042 5 ай бұрын
@@elained7006 Lutheranism advocates a doctrine of justification "by Grace alone through faith alone on the basis of Scripture alone," the doctrine that scripture is the final authority on all matters of faith.
@gigi2091
@gigi2091 5 ай бұрын
I almost lost my faith e.g, in healing through Justin Peters and what I see in him is a lot of frustration and bitterness with which he defiles others, and when he criticized other preachers he took so much out of context and his arguments were often also not scriptural, just mocking people
@amyw7200
@amyw7200 5 ай бұрын
​@@gigi2091 No. Justin clearly says that he wants false teachers to repent and truly come to Christ. He's very gracious. Any harshness that you see is on behalf of those who are deceived and bamboozled by them. I recommend you watch Mike Winger's video about Benny Hinn. Mike is from a Calvary Chapel background and not a cessationist.
@michelerivera2330
@michelerivera2330 5 ай бұрын
I feel sick that I wondered into this malarkey for a season. 🤦‍♀️
@4paullou6
@4paullou6 5 ай бұрын
You have the wisdom now to speak out. Obviously, you heeded the Holy Spirit pressing on you this stuff was messed up. Now, you can make the public statement of how broken all of that NAR mess is. You have a voice and a platform. Don’t be embarrassed. You have been blessed to come out of the darkness and into the Light. That’s wonderful!
@robbiesedgeman8698
@robbiesedgeman8698 5 ай бұрын
I am right there with you. And I am so grateful for teaching like this that helps me to think through and discern the reality of these types of sermons.
@MehitabelAllie
@MehitabelAllie 5 ай бұрын
😼 "HEY!!" HEY CAT always brings me back after watching the freakshows!
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 5 ай бұрын
It's the greatest thing since the resurrection💖
@lyndarogers8749
@lyndarogers8749 5 ай бұрын
I love that hey cat!😂
@kurtsherrick2066
@kurtsherrick2066 5 ай бұрын
Bill has fooled himself thinking he is so profound in his twisted Theology which is of Satan. Oh His buddy Kris is a Self Proclaimed Prophet and that makes it ok for him to add to the Canon. Bill believes he is Apostle and suggests that he works Signs and Wonders but has never performed one Sign and Wonder.
@darylrahfeldt2162
@darylrahfeldt2162 5 ай бұрын
Nothing like bragging about your own spiritual attainments!
@kerriferguson2023
@kerriferguson2023 5 ай бұрын
Self praise is no recommendation!😂
@BobbiMac08
@BobbiMac08 5 ай бұрын
A lot of these WOF, charismatic, NAR "pastors" do that. The sermon has more "me" and "I" in them than the Gospel.
@kerriferguson2023
@kerriferguson2023 5 ай бұрын
@@BobbiMac08 Indeed... a BIG red flag!!!!
@robine1018
@robine1018 5 ай бұрын
Does he ever use a Bible verse properly? I’ve yet to see that from him. Of course he’s a false teacher, so I never expect it. Thank you, Steve. Looking forward to another “Hit the Bar” from you and Paulette.
@ludwigamadeushaydn706
@ludwigamadeushaydn706 5 ай бұрын
He correctly quoted "By faith, we understand" in When Heaven Invades Earth, which contradicts the WoF reading.
@Ephesians-yn8ux
@Ephesians-yn8ux 5 ай бұрын
Thank you having the forethought to archive things like this
@beanbag345
@beanbag345 5 ай бұрын
Sphinx from Mystery Men couldn't have said it better, "your shadow will always release whatever overshadows you", until you master your fear, fear will be your master, etc.
@CharMinsky
@CharMinsky 5 ай бұрын
Gave me heart palpitations. In a bad way.
@Pickled73
@Pickled73 5 ай бұрын
After reading my comment, I realize voice texting is as reliable as Bill Johnson’s theology. If you can decipher what my latest text was good for you, but voice texting completely changed its ability to be understood. I guess I can just use it as a good example of a Sermon coming out of the ministry of Bill Johnson
@jenm5666
@jenm5666 5 ай бұрын
We'll just call it a Pickledism 😉
@cathyrider9967
@cathyrider9967 5 ай бұрын
When bill speaks, I always shake my head and say what? Uh...😂
@habibj
@habibj 5 ай бұрын
This is painful…
@Peter_Morris
@Peter_Morris 5 ай бұрын
So did they ever find any of those angel feathers or send any of that gold dust off to a lab to see what it is? I’ll probably be waiting on that for a while…
@Orquet-qj2nf
@Orquet-qj2nf 5 ай бұрын
There have been people who came forward, stating it was their job to dump glitter in the ventilation system themselves.
@breecameron1134
@breecameron1134 5 ай бұрын
You know as I'm watching him walk back and forth, I'm paying attention to his physical appearance. His haircut alone probably cost him at least, in California probably $200. He probably has it treated or some sort of hair treatment. His shoes look like they probably cost him upwards of $500 or more. His shirt and jacket and jeans probably, at least I would say again probably around $500 to $800. Probably upwards of $900 because his clothes are very tailored to him. He probably has them custom tailored. Probably cost him a lot because it's it's also California..so. Now imagine all his clothes are like that....😑 This is a dude who likes to get looked at. His hair is like brushed just so. And I understand when someone stands in front of an audience they want to look their best, but this is not that. It's just not I really don't..feel that. This is a dude who lays in a tanning bed probably 3 to 4 times a week. At least lol and gets manicures and stuff. It's just not giving good feelings to me whatsoever. And here's the thing I don't think that people who spiritually lead people should look junky..but, you can look excellent without looking like, well, you are abusing People's financial support all on yourself and your colleagues. There I said it.
@birdlover-zu7ez
@birdlover-zu7ez 5 ай бұрын
@breecameron1134 I've heard that he drives a Bentley too! I guess his shoes match...smh
@breecameron1134
@breecameron1134 5 ай бұрын
​@@birdlover-zu7ez It's giving Gnostic guru for sure. Weekend long retreats where you sit in a building listening to him giving out "secret knowledge" ...rolls my eyes so hard they almost stick.
@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan
@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan 5 ай бұрын
Hurts that a Church in my fellowship would invite Bill, a known Word of Faith advocate, to teach. AOG is in danger if this is any representation of the larger movement. Since I'm in it, I can say I don't believe it is a trend in my neck of the woods. If it becomes a trend, I'll fight it. If it wins, I'm gone.
@3kainos
@3kainos 5 ай бұрын
This just a new iteration of the latter rain movement that already caused incredible damage to the AOG & other Pentecostal denominations back in the 1940s-1950s. Really sad to see.
@bobc1631
@bobc1631 5 ай бұрын
Shout Out from your OHIO campus. This will be GOOOOOOD. Is Bill ever going to preach the gospel? Just a rambling word salad.
@JamesEverhart-jy1ri
@JamesEverhart-jy1ri 5 ай бұрын
Probably not going to preach the true gospel.
@MiaEvo
@MiaEvo 5 ай бұрын
He speaks so much nonsense. There is no fear of the Lord in him.
@A3Kr0n
@A3Kr0n 5 ай бұрын
Pseudo profundity is also called a "deepity" Deepity is a term employed by Daniel Dennett... The term refers to a statement that is apparently profound but actually asserts a triviality on one level and something meaningless on another.
@mikefarrant6880
@mikefarrant6880 5 ай бұрын
I can’t even listen to this guy talk he mumble’s lazy talk. Wow if u can’t figure out this guy is a con artist you are in deep do do may god help you open your eyes to these fade preachers
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