Murder on the Orient Express - Agatha Christie - So You Haven't Read

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[@factsmachine9905]

Can we get all quite on the western front

[@DotmatrixHistory]

@@factsmachine9905 omg yes that would be brilliant

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@@factsmachine9905 OSP covers it excellently.

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[@Gollvieg]

Murder on the Orient Express is a strange case of a super famous mystery story whose ending is not spoiled like crazy

[@jonnunn4196]

It has multiple film adaptions, most recently in 2017, which keeps the solution to the murder mystery the same as the original book.

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

A remarkable example of a story where the fun is in the journey, not the destination

[@GajeelRedfox]

@@ruffusgoodman4137 I was actually satisfied with the destination as well. I think if it had ended any other way, it would've been "just" fine, but I greatly enjoyed it this way.

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

@@GajeelRedfox I don't see any ending that could have improved the story. Another remarkable example is It from King (both books and the new movies) There's simply no satisfying ending, people forget those aren't Marvel stories

[@SingingSealRiana]

well, the way there is not, but everyone and their bling cat know the central solution to the mytery

[@danielhale1]

You guys it's obvious it was the cat. Who kept labeling all the other characters as guilty? Who could have snuck from room to room virtually unnoticed? A master of disguise in either a conductor outfit or red dress? Zoey did it, I tells ya!

[@browningcm]

The exact conclusion I came to as well. Mystery solved.

[@b1laxson]

Death by claws could look like knife wounds. If she used both sides of claws she wound leave both left and right handed woundeds... just like on the corpse

[@pionosphere]

@@b1laxson Egads! No other explanation would make any sense at all.

[@jaydedepato6995]

OMA GAH- How'd u figure it out so quickly? 😔

[@markcosta8565]

That would also explain the small stature!

[@penname8441]

"And then there were none" still gives me chills

[@edisonlima4647]

Yes. That one and Endless Night are soooo close to horror stories.

[@jaydedepato6995]

YESSS! These two are probably my favourite, along with Miss Marples' cases! Love the Queen, Christie all the way, though~

[@aparnasingh4740]

The bee string still haunts me to this day

[@danielboggan2479]

What a wild ride of a book

[@mewmew8932]

the world's worst detectives bro, they kept killing each other

[@jeremy1860]

A story forever considered the gold standard of murder mystery novels 😊

[@robloxbanana1055]

I had to read this for summer reading

[@Drakin292]

Hercule Poirot is my favorite detective of all time. While Holmes focussed on the physical forensic clues of a crime and logical deductions, Piorot was about that plus the psychology of the crimes. Why someone was driven to commit murder was just as important as how they did it. If you ever go looking into adaptations of the detective, I have to say the version played by David Suchet is hands down THE best Poirot I have ever seen.

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

If Sherlock Holmes is CSI Poirot would be Criminal Minds...

[@Liliquan]

Sherlock rarely used deductive logic. Almost entirely inductive.

[@PoggoMcDawggo]

Adam and Eve is not the sponsor I'd expect on this channel. That shocked me at first!

[@Googledeservestodie]

They sponsored some Death Battle episodes too and I was like "bruh wtf" they are doing some real off topic promotions apparently

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Me too lad, I expected that they would sponsor Brandon Rogers (great KZbinr you should check him) but never this Channel

[@This1sAJ]

an unexpected surprise for sure but not an unwelcome one

[@WhyGodby]

@@Googledeservestodie hey, if if funds the production

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[@srinath886]

Words cannot describe how thrilling the plot is. Although I found the first 20-30 pages boring but it did a good job building the foundation for a good story without giving too much away and then the pace increases exponentially. This was one of my favourite books that I have ever read! Thanks for covering this.

[@extrahistory]

Yay! So happy to be bringing you something you love!

[@conormurphy4328]

I think you should take a leaf out of Poirots book and learn to enjoy the slower paced more relaxing things in life as well as the exciting parts.

[@MovieFan1912]

This has to be the first time an episode of the series covers a book that I actually have read. Because I read this book several years ago to prepare myself for the movie. Though I never did see it, I’m glad I read the book anyway.

[@Craxin01]

If you're referring to the Kenneth Branagh version, skip it. It's too action oriented for the plump, short, Belgian detective. If you are going to seek out one of the adapted versions of this to watch, seek out the BBC made version starring David Suchet. His Poirot is quintessential.

[@MovieFan1912]

@@Craxin01 Thanks for the suggestion.

[@Valicroix]

The Suchet version is pretty good but I also recommend the 1974 version with Albert Finney as Poirot.

[@tammyt3434]

I hope you gave some of her other books a fair shake. And Then There Were None was also very good.

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

@@tammyt3434 Sparkling Cyanide was really good fun! I was a teenager when I read it, I wish I was smarter back then to read more books from her

[@jasonblalock4429]

For me, what makes this such a truly great detective story is that Poirot isn't a static character. He has an actual arc, and the ending of the book changes him. That's extremely rare in most detective fiction, where the MC typically has a set character that doesn't change much, if any, because their personality ties into their method of crime-solving. (ie, a Monk who isn't OCD isn't Monk.) That elevates it to literature, imo.

[@blakespangler3111]

I’ve gotta say it was this book and “And Then There Were None” that really blew my mind as far as mystery stories go. I was so thrilled by “Murder on the Orient Express” and how excellently it was written. I totally suggest the book to anyone even a little interested in mysteries.

[@rodrigolealmartir5902]

I love Agatha Christie. The best thing about her mysteries imo is that they are "fair play whodunnits": You get all the information you need to discover the culprit and how the crime was commited before the big reveal. Reading her books feels a lot like playing a game.

[@edisonlima4647]

Yes. And she is also a master of mood. Her comedic scenes always make me laugh, her darker scenes are never short on weight and she can pull off comedy in mysteries and dark scenes in romances without feeling artificial or out of place at all, which I find to be a rather rare talent, but for some reason I cannot fathom a bit less uncommon in English fiction.

[@tulliusexmisc2191]

There are several sets of rules for what constitutes a fair play whodunnit, but the lists I am familiar with specifically forbid tricks invested by Christie.

[@nikkigriffin6441]

First time I watched the movie I offhandledly said "this one isn't the sharpest knife in the caeser" about one of the characters. That proved prophetic.

[@MovieFan1912]

Which one?

[@goldengolem4725]

Spoilers below: “Zoey please enough, they can’t all be guilty.” Yep, definitely. There is absolutely no possible chance all of them are guilty.

[@MovieFan1912]

Right, and Infinity War has a happy ending.

[@kazarofchult8086]

I almost died when he said that 😂

[@sailor_guy9841]

Read the book back in 2015 in my school library…and then 2017 film all i can say things like this makes me glad that I am Agatha Christie Fan….Words cannot describe how thrilling this book is want to watch Hercule Poirot series though but all I can say is Thank you Extra Credits for covering my favourite book from her(Agatha Christie)Thank you ❤️

[@extrahistory]

Yay so happy to hear that and thank you!

[@KS-PNW]

I believe they're making at least one more Poirot movie

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

Murder on the Orient Express one of the best known and comfortably among the best Agatha Christie novel, but it's also not the best one to start with. Much of what it does most cleverly is taking entirely new paths on the genre conventions Christie was such a part in establishing, and particularly her own conventions in these stories, specifically to take her own audience off-guard. It's still a very good murder mystery even if it's your first, but you get a much better ride if you've read enough of her books to know her style well, since you are being directly targeted by the story's cleverest twists. It's also why the Acorn TV show sensibly put it near the very end when they had established their own style for it to play off, and why it was a mistake for it to be the first of the new franchise of films. Death on the Nile ought to have come before it, perhaps even another great story like the Murder of Roger Akroyd.

[@petertrudelljr]

my introduction to Christie was Ten Little "Indians" and I just had to hoover up all the Poirot mysteries after that.

[@conormurphy4328]

Also it really won’t have the same impact anymore as anybody who hasn’t read it will definitely be familiar with the twist due to its influence in pop culture.

[@BuffaloEdward]

I donno, Murder of Roger Akroyd plays around with the conventions a lot as well (although in a different way than Murder on the Orient Express does). I wouldn’t start there either.

[@jonnunn4196]

@@petertrudelljr That's what Pocket Book paperback editions for about twenty years re-titled the original title to from the original to in order to avoid a racial slur. The current title is "And Then There Were None". With Murder of the Orient Express being in the "Poirot" series; it may be best to read "The Mysterious Affair at Styles" from 1920 first for background on the detective.

[@P0w2you]

Yeah I had chosen Murder on the orient express first, and the most jarring thing was the lack of introduction to Pirot. I think I took to A.C. style just fine. Just I wanted to know more about Pirot.

[@tessat338]

Agatha Christie based the background of the story on the kidnapping and murder of the toddler son of Charles Lindbergh but also on her own experience riding on the Wagon Lit train from Calais to Istanbul. By riding on the train and meeting new people from all over the world, she was able to let her imagination wander was able to conjure Poirot and her own particular characters into the "locked door" environment of the train journey in winter.

[@jabberwockist]

And if you like Christie's brilliant characterization and human empathy, also check out Death on the Nile. If you like the twist at the end and want to see what happens when Christie takes a similar twist and turns it up to 11, check out And Then There Were None. If instead you just want another Christie mystery that is so brilliant and impossibly hard to solve that mystery writers have dubbed it the greatest and most difficult mystery novel of all time, check out The Murder of Roger Akroyd.

[@TheRennDawg]

In Star Trek mythos, the Cardassians consider Murder on the Orient Express to be the greatest human book.

[@riverAmazonNZ]

That makes sense considering how the Cardassians like their murder mysteries to go.

[@TheRennDawg]

@@riverAmazonNZ I remember in an episode of DS9 that Dr. Bashir complained about how in a Cardassian mystery everyone is guilty. Garak responded that you were supposed to figure out who was guilty of what. Sounds quite interesting to me.

[@jonnunn4196]

Doctor Who's "The Unicorn and the Wasp" instead shows the cover to "Death in the Clouds", but that may have more to do with that edition having a giant wasp on the cover than which ones are most popular.

[@Rojaniel]

A famous detective novel, right next to "And Then There Were None." Also a Christie novel!

[@jonnunn4196]

This is one of the few cases in which the title of a book has changed since originally published. (The original title was a racial slur even on the date published and the US edition of the book that came out a few months later changed the title from it to "And Then There Were None" .) Also, some of the Pocket Book paper back editions had yet a third title.

[@Kurakatar]

Bro imagine being one of the people on the train and constantly thinking about how you're stuck on a train with a murderer

[@jonnunn4196]

I don't even know how to respond to that without giving away the mystery.

[@mariam6799]

Spoiler They're all the murderer

[@jesternario]

Holmes, Poirot, Fletcher. All these detectives, and not a single word of the greatest thief of the literary world: Arséne Lupin.

[@kaltaron1284]

His grandson is also quite famous although in a different medium.

[@pendragonxt3674]

@@kaltaron1284 as is a certain persona that bears his name.

[@jesternario]

@@kaltaron1284 Yes, I have heard this too. In multiple languages. 😄

[@raptormaster666]

My mother had an anthology of Christie works, this and Cards on the Table are the ones I remember most.

[@MusicalGirl2311]

I work at a library. A few weeks ago, a woman asked for recommendations for her husband, who loves mysteries. I suggested Agatha Christie, because she is my favorite author. The woman said, “knowing him, he’ll probably figure it out before he’s done,” and my manager and I said (almost simultaneously), “no, he won’t.”

[@leohex8767]

One of the most famous authors, with one of her most famous detective characters, in one of her most famous books, with THE most "surprisingly unknown" endings in fiction. Not just mystery novels, not just Agatha Christie novels. FICTION.

[@Fox531CD]

Do you mean the type of ending is unknown, or the ending itself is generally unknown, because my impression was that the story's ending is so famous that the mystery factor has taken a hit. Or maybe that's Jekyll and Hyde I'm thinking of.

[@leohex8767]

@@Fox531CD Yea its probably Jekyll and Hyde. I've asked people who I know have read Agatha Christie and they say it's one of her best stories. I don't know about actually statistics backing me up, but again most people I've talked to say that.

[@Shadowreaper5]

I appreciate that even the animated people in a make believe cafe are wearing masks

[@illuminatedjoy24]

I've never actually read an Agatha Christie story even though I enjoy mystery stories, so this video got me to give it a go. I've since finished it, and it truly deserves its reputation! So thank you so much for suggesting it.

[@lokiskywalker]

2:29 And let's face it, Poirot ain't exactly Jason Statham anyway. Dunno how much "protection" he could have given.

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Honestly, I love how unsurprising an Adam & Eve sponsorship is becoming to me. Positivity!

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[@tarrarecolabro1994]

I remember reading this for school a couple years ago! It was probably my favorite book from that year, second only to To Kill A Mockingbird. Absolutely loved the plot.

[@ShazEire]

I only saw this film recently and was surprised no one had spoiled it. Grateful for that!

[@robertgronewold3326]

My one English teachers in high school had us read a Christie book as part of his class, and to make sure that the students didn't spoil the plot for each other, each year he had a different novel for each year, and cycled through them. My year was the ABC Murders, which is another good one, and two of the others I know he had his students read was Murder Under the Sun and Murder on the Orient Express. I didn't read the book first, but saw the excellent 70's movie version first, and was stunned by the ending. Even knowing the ending when I read the book, I loved it.

[@BadWebDiver]

I'm a huge fan of the 70's movie.

[@SilverZephyrFalcon]

One of the best books I've had to read for classes. It's been long enough that I've forgotten how it ends, so I might just have to pick up a copy and read through it again.

[@voyagebypen]

Isn't it wonderful how stories from times past can capture our imagination? Especially if it's a luxurious murder mystery 🧐🥂

[@bryannawalls8367]

I grew up watching the 70s movie with my grandma and JUST finished reading the novel for the first time last week. A masterpiece of a story and a well-timed video!

[@stephenkuzmiak]

This was one of my favorite books that I have ever read.

[@cataquackwarlord5389]

I remember reading Murder on the Orient Express in high school. It was awesome!

[@kazarofchult8086]

The Dexter’s Lab Reference at the beginning got me 😂

[@Average_Explosion_Enthusiast]

I love Extra Credits they make good videos that I can watch about books my school make me read. They just explain it so well!

[@extrahistory]

Thank you! We love making things a little easier on everyone!

[@briewest738]

Agatha Christie has her OWN mystery when she disappeared for a few days!

[@minegriner1642]

I just finished reading the book and my god that was not the ending I was expecting, luckily I wasn’t spoiled about it before finishing it and for those who have not read it and truly for those who don’t know the ending, read it before you evidently get spoiled on the ending

[@abraham2198]

I like that a video focused around mystery and plot twists has a plot twist sponsor now I can relieve myself when I feel super tense about a murderer on my train

[@ATRStormUnit]

I'm gonna play the conductor in a small stage production around new years, I'm excited that EC covered the book not even a week after I learned about that :D

[@Noahscape31]

I love the shhh Zoey, they can’t all be guilty line. I loved the book when I read it, and then there were none is another great book ( may also be known as ten little Indians though that name has been retired for obvious reasons )

[@petertrudelljr]

and that was the SECOND iteration of the title, being a little better than the original.

[@Ctmnt08]

Yeah, like Peter said, the original title and poem of “And Then There Were None” is literally unspeakable today.

[@ericness9660]

I was pleasantly surprised when there wasn’t an ad playing before the episode. Then I saw the sponsor and I can’t help but worry that the video was demonetized because of that sponsorship. EC might be sex-positive, but I don’t think KZbin is… Loved the video!

[@MrT3a]

So, I have read the book, both in English and French, and seen many adaptations, both TV and film, both languages as well, and still love it.

[@tashantimothy6180]

“Because everybody can’t be guilty right? RIGHT?!”

[@OuPoot999]

"Omelette du fromage". That's a 'Dexters Lab' reference if I ever heard one :P

[@Lady_Chalk]

I remember borrowing VHSs of "Agatha Christie's Poirot", played by David Suchet from the library and just devouring it with my mom. Good times.

[@PoisonStore]

Because of this episode sponsor i acidentally watch a diffrent vesion of the orient express (you all know what that is ya). Aaanywaay, i still love your channel. Keep it up.

[@Topicushistory]

It is my favorite of all Agatha Christie's books.

[@ninnusridhar]

My most favourite Christie book will remain "And then there were none", but Orient express is a close contender. What can I say? I like a good claustrophobic murder mystery with waaaay too many people

[@GraceAnne2007]

I have two Extra History videos open, each on a different device rn, this channel is keeping me fed

[@chameleoncove]

5:09 It's a Blue's Clues reference!

[@dingusmann3003]

Choo choo all aboard the homicide train

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[@bobisqueen5694]

"omelette du fromage" ... Is that a Dexter's Lab reference?? XD

[@thanhool]

Its solvable with the info given in this very video.

[@iamseamonkey6688]

the great thing about this book is that it's really easy to read, even if you don't read often.

[@fantasy873]

Thanks to osmosis I'd be surprised to encounter a single person who doesn't know the answer to the mystery.

[@rok3440live]

all of them were connect to the muder

[@HeyNonyNonymous]

I did read Murder on the Orient Express. And I see what you did there. Nice foreshadowing.

[@Twilight_Jinx]

I love these synopses so much. Would y'all ever consider doing Kite Runner? Love that book so much

[@Ironbanner12]

Among Us in 20th century Europe on a train

[@boris001000]

🎉 yay Among Us reference

[@lazykabang3198]

there's an unkown amount of imposters among us

[@clockspur8091]

5:31 he’s nicer than sherlock though, so that’s a plus

[@George_M_]

The killer was Rosebud, she did it with a sled.

[@CactusJackIV]

I love this channel!! Keep up the awesome job!

[@extrahistory]

Thank you!

[@samrevlej9331]

0:24 You know, the French joke has been kind of overused, especially since the proper translation for “cheese omelet” is “omelette *au* fromage”.

[@mathieuleader8601]

I love the Orient Express radio play by the BBC with Poriot being played by John Moffatt

[@Nerdznewznow]

Wait wait wait. I’ve read the orient express 4 times now and the scream is from a different cabin entirely than the whispered “everything is fine”

[@Т1000-м1и]

That one book everyone in eastern Europe heard about but barely anyone knows what it even is meant to be. Kind of like our version of 1984

[@jeffgalus8454]

I've seen the recent and the 1974 movies. And read it over thousands of times and still captivated by it

[@Albert_1_of_Belgium]

I'm going to say this is a spoiler, but it isn't a direct statement, just be weary. The way they look at the camera at 3:17 after he says "they can't all be guilty" is a great hint at the ending.

[@splash1358]

Yay for covering my favorite author and my favorite book of hers!

[@saidtoshimaru1832]

"They can't all be guilty".

[@davidwright7193]

I thought he said no spoilers…

[@TheCreepypro]

a great suggestion whether you like mystery or are just getting started with it

[@ImNotAGuineaPig]

There wonderful inside jokes in this video for those of us who have read the book.

[@lucasplatero1167]

I keep trying to tell friends about why they should read this book, and it's continuously frustrating because I don't want to spoil the ending.

[@edisonlima4647]

Always a problem with Christie. Perhaps you could try to expose them to one of her shirt stories first, like "Philomel Cottage" or "Accident". I love those!

[@TFHC_cc]

'omelet du fromage'... 😂

[@OnboardG1]

I've always loved this story, and it feels like it could have been written for the screen. Interestingly, I think the best is the "lightest-hearted" version with Albert Finney.

[@DDlambchop43]

honestly, that's the gold standard; every adaptation after just feels like drama club.

[@Unownshipper]

I love that you based the look of this video’s cartoon suspects on their counterparts from the 1974 version. Undoubtedly the best adaptation for film.

[@johnno4127]

Well handled avoiding the spoiling of a mystery!

[@Liam_Mellon]

Agatha Christie’s true masterpiece is The A.B.C. Murders

[@ahmedas424]

I read it more than once & saw all the films & episode

[@sgxthach]

I LOVED watching Murder she Wrote growing up.

[@gabrielmac369]

Among Us back then was wild

[@rickhobson3211]

Then there was that one Poirot story where he DID commit a Murder! :O

[@Craxin01]

If you are going to seek out one of the adapted versions of this to watch, seek out the BBC made version starring David Suchet.

[@DDlambchop43]

um...yeah. there's problems with that version IMHO. FIrst, Ratchett was NEVER remorseful in the book and tho the fact that Poirot is Catholic isn't a "problem" exactly, it's not important to the story, nor is it EVER brought up in it. Stick to the '74, ALWAYS.

[@DDlambchop43]

it looks like you're basing the illustrations on the '74 film...I am GRATEFUL!

[@cuteclau]

I love the character cards. 🤗🤩🤗🤩🤗

[@Black_Corey]

I don't have to spoil the well-known ending. You've already done so in this video!

[@winterraeven]

Stay out of my search history rofl x3 love your videos

[@danilynn114]

Just this year I was introduced to the movies. MY GOSH! It is now one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time. And since we all know books are better than the movies, guess what I'm reading RN?

[@dukelemur2323]

What I had to replay the video to see that Adam and Eve is the sponsor of this video

[@blockmasterscott]

Great book, and I’ve enjoyed all the film versions too.

[@tatwood1123]

Even if it was spoiled, the ending is such a "what the hell" gut punch that you'd read it just to figure out how it got there

[@Inkan1969]

I don't know, it left me really disappointed.

[@bellbell251]

I just listened to Murder on the Orient Express recently and I highly recommend it too! I was shocked at the ending and I loved it! Just curious, are you going to cover "The Master and Margarita" by Mikhail Bulgakov? I highly recommend that book too.

[@Thorninjag]

This book is my FAVORITE detective story after Hound of The Baskervilles.

[@jackyhe3192]

this is so good

[@ethanomcbride]

Now do an episode about “And Then There We’re None”