For those wondering, Yes, the Pinkertons still exist today and are still in the business of "risk management" and private security. They're owned by a Swedish company, but still operate under the Pinkertons name.
@sombodythatyouusedtoknow90462 жыл бұрын
rdr2 wiki says that the company that bought them is securitas AB
@drewberrycrunch1417 Жыл бұрын
Weird how this is relevant again.
@kaya-1094 Жыл бұрын
And aparently stealing Magic cards....
@ratking9411 Жыл бұрын
I never would've guessed that the pinkertons would be returning later in the series, props to the writers of Earth for this crazy plot twist
@Fly-the-Light Жыл бұрын
Wotc?
@Shyblook1234 Жыл бұрын
@@Fly-the-Light They’re still around and are mostly just mercenaries, recently they raided a guy’s house because he bought a pack of unreleased magic the gathering cards that had been shipped to the store he bought them from.
@zephyrm.6564 Жыл бұрын
What's Doom Metal got to do with this?
@mewmew8932 Жыл бұрын
@@Shyblook1234 ngl kinda fair
@nanashi420 Жыл бұрын
@mewmew8932 not fair at all. He couldn't have known, they easily could've sent a diplomatic representative rather than literal mercenaries.
@Turnil321 Жыл бұрын
Remember when the Pinkerton did a raid on a collector of magic gathering cards last week because he got a card that was not a sale yet. Good to see American institutions doing so well.
@Ryan2K900 Жыл бұрын
Just watched the historians video on it. I didn’t even know it happened 😮
@Empressofnight Жыл бұрын
Didn't even know they were still around until that
@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
@@Empressofnight They mainly do security consultancy work but yeah... Nice to see they remain in touch with their roots.
@Wifgargfhaurh Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a "raid", look into it.
@Wasserkaktus Жыл бұрын
@@Wifgargfhaurh It was still very embarrassing and a massive risk assessment failure on Pinkerton's part: They should have just politely asked to have it returned first.
@aze944 жыл бұрын
I am amazed by how many people seem to think that the Pinkertons were made up for RDR2
@IsratJahan-th3fo4 жыл бұрын
I knew Pinkertons existed before RDR2 but i found how evil they were by googling them after playing RDR2
@kingbred013 жыл бұрын
Iam not from America so i wouldn't know
@asovietdoggo23773 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t know
@King-xe3kt3 жыл бұрын
So what dude I learned about them in RDR2 so fucking what
@heeheeheehaw62003 жыл бұрын
@@King-xe3kt "Calm down"
@ichangedmyaccountname29934 жыл бұрын
“God dammed Pinkertons” -Everybody in Red Dead Redemption 2
@Argacyan4 жыл бұрын
Also people irl like abolitionists and protestors for worker rights, anarchists, modernists, anti-imperialists, people who wanted more democracy in america, etc. There's a lot.
@mattsmith37504 жыл бұрын
Literally everyone who wanted to live in a better world hated the Pinkertons. They were just paid thugs for the rich and powerful.
@alexalexandrov96844 жыл бұрын
I’m biased but if you weren’t a pinkerton or a moderate to large business owner you would be better off if they all died
@Abdirahman_Mohamed4 жыл бұрын
Dont Worry guys, Dutch got a plan
@archosauropre-historico87084 жыл бұрын
@@Abdirahman_Mohamed We just need money!
@zhaohuideng88364 жыл бұрын
OK I know one of these Pinkerton men: Where is Booker DeWitt?
@alexanderthegreat4454 жыл бұрын
Zhaohui Deng What about Milton?
@rafisanders4 жыл бұрын
Gotteem
@a.k.a_ems4 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderthegreat445 What about Edgar Ross?
@alexanderthegreat4454 жыл бұрын
EMS Ross as well
@juicehexed34984 жыл бұрын
So hyped for the new Bioshock
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you mention his death? He slipped and fell in the dirt biting his tongue in the process and in a few days died from the blood infection. I find this ironic how a man who had so many close encounters with danger could have died in such silly circumstances
@Speederzzz4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Marie Curie'a husband. He also worked with radiation but died when he tripped and was hit by a coach.
@jimtaylor2944 жыл бұрын
On of the GWR's most significant chief engineers died from being run over by his own creation, specifically a locomotive pulling the Fishguard express. (he'd been inspecting a track section and didn't hear the train in time)
@monsieurouxx4 жыл бұрын
Karma eventually got that bitch.
@d4n4nable4 жыл бұрын
@@monsieurouxx He was a hero.
@lordofthechinesebiscuit84364 жыл бұрын
Here Lies Alan Pinkerton He Bit His Tongue And Fell In Dirt.
@RedHoodedWraith_Boy4 жыл бұрын
With all the stuff about the Pinkertons and their anti-union activities and pretty much protecting the status quo, I was honestly surprised their founder was staunchly against slavery and played an active role in helping people get free from slavery
@Nikko1Brown2 жыл бұрын
Goals change sometimes not for the better
@carso15002 жыл бұрын
Sometimes bad people can have good ideas and good people bad ones
@falahati2 жыл бұрын
@@carso1500 so dumb. people are complicated, there is no bad or good people :|
@sparkysmalarkey2 жыл бұрын
The status-quo they were building required slavery to be abolished. It was competition, plain and simple. I think it's called moral convenience. The same thing is happening with fossil fuels.
@MarcelinhoTheRock2 жыл бұрын
One Thing is one thing and other thing is other thing, nobody is whole evil or whole good. Even criminals have positive things to say about them
@thebigdrew124 жыл бұрын
Pinkertons' intelligence in the Civil War, while technically accurate, did often end up misleading McClellan. Pinkerton usually reported the number of units opposing McClellan, and McClellan used that information to estimate the size of the Confederate Army. Unbeknownst to either man, the Confederate units were often much smaller on the individual level, leading to Union confusion.
@rvmaika5815 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely did not realize these guys were still around until the MTG incident
@nathanyakich31524 жыл бұрын
I'm a Pittsburgher, and we learned about the Homestead Strikes in school: Frick, Carnegie, and the Pinkerton Agency. Nothing about the man himself though. This was fascinating. Thanks!
@zane94644 жыл бұрын
Nathan Yakich Carnegie can go frick himself.
@Sleight-lq8qd4 жыл бұрын
It’s weird how different I laced in the same country get different educations. I had three us history classes that never spoke a word about the Pinkertons. All the way from the revolution to WW1.
@thundergozon64394 жыл бұрын
@@zane9464 The Pinkertons can go frick themselves too
@roguishpaladin4 жыл бұрын
@@Sleight-lq8qd Did they cover Carnegie and similar monopolists of the period, though? The Pinkertons were the hand, not the brain, so it's less important to know about them than about the overall themes of the period. Yes, it's interesting, but it's a piece in a large puzzle that I could see a teacher leaving off for sake of time.
@Sleight-lq8qd4 жыл бұрын
roguishpaladin “covered” is a generous term “touched on” more like. We talked about Carnegie and it was in a favorable light. Outlining his rags-to-riches thing, and John D. Rockafeller. Who we definitely did cover. We had a whole unit on trusts and monopoly’s and he was the name that kept cropping up. Also it is worth noting that for a class covering everything from the end of the civil war to the beginning of WW1 we spent 4 of 14 weeks on Custer getting his ass handed to him at Little Bighorn
@bbehr-uv1ft4 жыл бұрын
Pinkerton being like Arthur Morgan being deputized while being wanted
@samurguy99064 жыл бұрын
Not actually that uncommon on the shifting American frontier. Turns out, the ability to use a gun and the judgement of when to take or not take a fight has some overlap between lawmen and outlaws.
@Omnifarious04 жыл бұрын
@@samurguy9906 - The same is true for the digital frontier. IMHO, the government shot itself in the foot early on coming down so heavily on hackers who were in it for the knowledge, fun, or glory.
@bubblebreak41604 жыл бұрын
Law men and criminals are the same
@sleepypanda26964 жыл бұрын
Yes, only one of them fights for themselves And the other occasionally fights for themselves
@ComedicLetter4 жыл бұрын
@ChipsBuzz or outlaws were as good as lawmen
@thebutzel97524 жыл бұрын
“DAMN PINKERTONS!” -Arthur Morgan, sometime in 1899.
@bennice68114 жыл бұрын
*all the time in 1899
@Deivid-bn6yw3 жыл бұрын
“Hey umm you heard anything about Pinkerton round these parts?”- Arthur every time he enters a new town
@Joedoeem3 жыл бұрын
@@Deivid-bn6yw when u have a bounty in the area thatll happen
@SgtCandy4 жыл бұрын
"When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor." - Paulo Freire
@mabimabi2122 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of a specific french 'pacifist' revolutionary that murdered thousands.
@adamraserovaquera2 жыл бұрын
@snailwithinternetaccess chop chop chop chop
@kkounal9742 жыл бұрын
You would think people understood the unity of means and ends. Then again he was pretty violent from the start so maybe he didn't.
@holmesowen85582 жыл бұрын
Pedagogy of the oppressed is one of my favorite books
@Sewblon Жыл бұрын
I haven't read pedagogy of the oppressed. But I suspect that The Ego and his Own would also be a useful way to view Mr. Pinkerton's life. He accepted that the only 2 possible ways of being are dominance and submission. So he choose to resist domination Except for when he got to do it himself.
@Supadubya4 жыл бұрын
Pinkerton's also killed strikers in the Bread and Roses strike in Lawrence, Massachusetts. Tossed a grenade into a crowd of striking teenage mill girls at one point if I recall correctly...
@uhtredragnarson91283 жыл бұрын
Exactly why they are deserving bad guys
@evilproductionstudios96594 жыл бұрын
This is extra history’s new series, extra police
@evilproductionstudios96594 жыл бұрын
Mac McJof that’s better
@DallinBackstrom4 жыл бұрын
@Frank the Bunny extra criminology! come on, they're academics, we've got to give them some credit
@alejandrokaplan72434 жыл бұрын
evil leafy Production studios extra labor
@evilproductionstudios96594 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Kaplan 🤣
@alejandrokaplan72434 жыл бұрын
evil leafy Production studios it would be cool
@cb415034 жыл бұрын
The Pinkertons are still around today to my surprise
@kurskfirebrand44944 жыл бұрын
yeah apparently they tried to sue Rockstar for their portrayal in Red Dead Redemption 2
@sabotabby33724 жыл бұрын
and disgust
@Liberty_Bull4 жыл бұрын
They have linked together with Securitas security
@js500y94 жыл бұрын
I almost went to work for them once guarding a power plant in Illinois.
@fenrirumbra37724 жыл бұрын
They still do anti union activities.
@morganahart25754 жыл бұрын
It's always fascinating to hear an aspect of such a widely discussed historical organization that I've never seen discussed before, thanks for all the work you guys do
@LordOfSilense4 жыл бұрын
There is a clear and direct reason why American education and social commentary don't touch on America's anti-Union groups. $$$ is at play.
@dongenove30484 жыл бұрын
"You enjoy being a rich man's toy, do you?"
@OrionsTale4 жыл бұрын
"I enjoy society, flaws and all. You people venerate savagery and you will DIE... savagely! All of you!" ~ Some Annoying Bald Man, 1899
@mr.m65224 жыл бұрын
@The plan man partially, yes.
@loonyspoons56763 жыл бұрын
Republicans certainly do 👞💋
@MelonHead783 жыл бұрын
@@loonyspoons5676 not sides kiss boots we just picked a different pair of boots to kiss
@ashtonkatu73163 жыл бұрын
@@OrionsTale “Oh, we’re all gonna die, agent.”
@Tyracus Жыл бұрын
Odd that this pops up in my feed after the Wizards magic story breaks. Didn’t know Pinkertons were still a thing after their history in the 1800s
@someone_one_one Жыл бұрын
Right?
@nananakeson Жыл бұрын
Tbh there wasn't a better time for this to pop up.
@felisd7 ай бұрын
I only knew about them (before the MTG thing) thanks to reading Sherlock Holmes.
@the_last_raposa38104 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Emma goldman to come up here, given her attempts to assassinate the steel company owners, you should do a video or a series on goldman
@evanweiss714 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@NotHPotter4 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@BaronElBardo4 жыл бұрын
If I were a patreon of EC, I will prupose one series about Emma Goldman. Se had a very interesting life and still being an inspiration for modern anarchist.
@TheShadowwalker0074 жыл бұрын
Never hear... sounds interesting!
@ziggitee35004 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Rip Van Winkle to show up
@splayairplane34184 жыл бұрын
Damn you Leviticus Cornwall!!
@ziggitee35004 жыл бұрын
If only Dutch didn’t rob that damn train!
@nobodyimportant1304 жыл бұрын
Damn you Walpole
@thomashambly37184 жыл бұрын
I read this like Timmy's dad going "damn you dinkleburg"
@DokturProfesur4 жыл бұрын
"Who tha hell is Leviticus Cornwall?"
@splayairplane34184 жыл бұрын
@@thomashambly3718 *Shaking fist angrily in no particular direction*
@patheticbadger34784 жыл бұрын
Pinkertons in the 19th - 20th centuary: "The Knights of Capitalism" Pinkertons 2019: Suing a game company...
@jacobthefiend4 жыл бұрын
Good to see not much has changed in 150 years, huh?
@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas45044 жыл бұрын
Yha well due you for proteaing us accurately in red dead redemption 2
@hansisbrucker8134 жыл бұрын
They still exist? 😳
@tobybartels84264 жыл бұрын
@@hansisbrucker813 : Not like they used to. They provide security guards and whatever ‘risk analysis’ means in this context. They were bought by a Swedish company in 2003, but they still operate under the name ‘Pinkerton's’.
@generalgrievous21974 жыл бұрын
There still protecting money though
@eizenbrook6777 Жыл бұрын
Well Wizards of the Cost literally just sent them after a KZbinr that wizards accidentally sent a unreleased Box of Magic the Gathering to
@squidythe3rd9274 жыл бұрын
You forgot the greatest Pinkerton story of all: When heroic agents hunted down the infamous Tacitus Kilgore and his far scarier brother: *R I P V A N W I N K L E*
@wagwarn39574 жыл бұрын
Squidy The 3rd you all know what he’s talking about
@afriendlyrebel57094 жыл бұрын
lol
@ApeNaticZoo4 жыл бұрын
And arthur calahan
@enriquepowers4 жыл бұрын
I think Jim Milton was far scarier
@tuweegaming75934 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Marston And also Archibald Smith
@MrFishman554 жыл бұрын
A rags to riches story with a protagonist who also happened to help McClellan, save Lincoln, and basically interacted with almost every prominent figure of the 1860's? I smell a self-insert, they're getting lazy with story arcs these days.
@logankrohn14724 жыл бұрын
Samuel You are right, this story is exactly like you described and full of cliches
@thundergozon64394 жыл бұрын
Who would write a self-insert as betraying his own former brothers and morals for cash?
@henryhaile16534 жыл бұрын
@@thundergozon6439 HE DIDN'T. His sons were the ones who ran the anti union activities. Pinkerton died in 1884 if I'm correct.
@thundergozon64394 жыл бұрын
@@henryhaile1653 I'll politely refer you to 7:20 Just the next half minute should be enough of a reply.
@henryhaile16534 жыл бұрын
@@thundergozon6439 so he had a change of heart regarding anarchism and socialism, and he tested railroad workers to make sure they didn't take bribes? Someone doesn't have to believe in one set of ideas their whole life, and making sure workers aren't corrupt seems to be good in general, just making sure trustworthy people are working on the trains.
@autoklashkinov4 жыл бұрын
It should also have been stated that The Pinkerton Detective Agency is still around today and also responsible for some of the most horrific Anti-Labor violence in American history
@troybaxter9 ай бұрын
Oh, we are definitely aware of their existence now. Looking at you Hasbro.
@brownmims23114 жыл бұрын
I remember when calling someone a Pinkerton was a grave insult.
@NotHPotter4 жыл бұрын
It still should be. Let's bring it back!
@thundergozon64394 жыл бұрын
it should be, honestly
@d4n4nable4 жыл бұрын
Goes to show how much incessant socialists subverted morals. They were true heroes.
@adamplentl55884 жыл бұрын
@@d4n4nable yeah they were heroes for wealthy industrialist pigs I guess.
@d4n4nable4 жыл бұрын
@@adamplentl5588 LOL. Thanks to those "industrialit pigs" you have a (too) comfortable life today. Be grateful do them, you worm.
@kursk_kuku1414 жыл бұрын
“And it’s always a goddamn train!” -Arthur Morgan, 1899
@chaoscontrollerdx93034 жыл бұрын
The journey through the Red Dead Redemption games introduced me to the Pinkertons and their role in history as I had never heard anything of them in real life. It's sad to see how a humble and well intended ideal can become something that went against it's own values. Really makes you rethink a lot about those games and who you were facing.
@tonysladky8925 Жыл бұрын
Oh, don't mind me. Just a Magic: The Gathering fan rewatching this episode in late April, 2023 for NOOOOOOO REASON whatsoever...
@realrock3334 жыл бұрын
As someone from Illinois, please remember that the S is silent
@TheTestyDuck4 жыл бұрын
Illi noice
@kathic64024 жыл бұрын
It was so subtle the first time I thought I imagined it
@mustafabeer17914 жыл бұрын
A omeone from Illinoi, pleae remember that the S i ilent. Better?
@williamwulff2894 жыл бұрын
Not even in French do we pronounce the "s". Your Illinoy is for us "Illy-nwa"
@SamWeltzin4 жыл бұрын
I have a similar pet peeve from having lived in Nevada. People pronounce it NeVAHdah, when everyone who lives there pronounces it NeVAduh (short A sound, like apple). So I feel your pain.
@haydenhayden Жыл бұрын
Allan Pinkerton is a great example of “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
@NuncNuncNuncNunc Жыл бұрын
Pinkerton may have had some not too proud moments in his life, but he had been dead several years by the time of the strike in the video.
@tomwhitworth1560 Жыл бұрын
He was a hypocrite
@siyacer7 ай бұрын
they were mever the hero
@KyaniMosaic_Crone Жыл бұрын
Anyone else here to show this educational video to kids/teens because Hasbro just sent the Pinkertons to terrorize a KZbinr who legally purchased the Magic the Gathering cards that Hasbro accidentally shipped out 2 weeks early. Yup. That's where we are in America 2023.
@purromemes7395 Жыл бұрын
That’s normal. They’ve always done that lmao. Your just waking up now. I’ve been talking about this since the 1990s
@qawamity Жыл бұрын
The only "terror" involved was if there was recognition of the Pinkerton name. If a couple guys knock on your door saying they are private detectives there to retrieve property. there isn't much there that is "terrifying".
@purromemes7395 Жыл бұрын
@@qawamity they didn’t knock on his door they broke it down and ransacked his house
@purromemes7395 Жыл бұрын
@@qawamity and threatened his wife and kids
@qawamity Жыл бұрын
@@purromemes7395 That's not what he said, last I heard. Has he changed his story?
@annew65012 жыл бұрын
I just very recently found out Allen Pinkerton is my great great great grandfather... Oh man. I am adopted so it's certainly been a whirlwind of information. Thanks for sharing.
@thezombiekat7506 Жыл бұрын
Oof
@Remix2366 Жыл бұрын
You need to mentally separate memes and genes
@TheSaxyCarrot Жыл бұрын
Damn that’s sad
@openthinker656210 ай бұрын
@@TheSaxyCarrotwhy? He’s a descendant of an abolitionist, an Underground Railroad worker, a defender of immigrants and a man who saved Abraham Lincoln. That is worthy of being proud of while also denouncing the organization that he created and emerged after him
@mauktheogre44774 жыл бұрын
Do the Battle of Mount Blair. Fits perfectly with this episodes theme.
@travishabursky43624 жыл бұрын
My Great-Granddad was apart of the Battle of Blair Mountain. We need to talk about that battle a lot more than we do.
@LegendStormcrow4 жыл бұрын
@@travishabursky4362 sounds about right to me.
@judebreheny39254 жыл бұрын
They choose video topics using patreon. Sorry, man.
@@mauktheogre4477 Not really. You have to pay to be a patreon and part of the way they encourage people to support them on P. is by only offering votes to patrons. There's really no chance unless someone decides it would make a good video.
@sitcom40084 жыл бұрын
Milton: Mr. Dutch Van Der Linde, Mr. Morgan... and you are...? John: R I P V A N W I N K L E
@notoriousnostalgia96424 жыл бұрын
Dutch: And to what do we owe the pleasure, Agent Moron?
@thefakebarrybonz44924 жыл бұрын
how do you know my mothers maiden name?
@tjoconnell25244 жыл бұрын
Ok, this mans life is full of ironic situations. He has a criminal record in Scotland, but becomes a sheriffs deputy. Founder of the Pinkerton detective agency, but is instead used to break up union strikes, not what he exactly wanted.
@kchishol19704 жыл бұрын
Considering the rationalizations he engaged in about the last activity, it became exactly what he wanted.
@thundergozon64394 жыл бұрын
Except he defended it with stupid non arguments while still alive and in charge of the agency
@MStonewallC4 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to hear that Pinkerton himself fought for working class rights in his early life. Now I know what Chartism is too, interesting stuff.
@maximsavage4 жыл бұрын
Didn't you watch the video? That was exactly as he wanted. He was just a hypocrite who reneged on his ideals once he got money.
@palladin94794 жыл бұрын
Pinkerton didn't do anything with unions. the guest author was extremely deceptive in how they portrayed the order of events with an almost lawyer like approach with a disclaimer. All the anti-union stuff happened after Pinkerton's death and the private security company being passed to his children. Pinkerton himself didn't sell out his values.
@justsomeguy3686 Жыл бұрын
And noooooow they have allegedly raided some youtuber who seems like his only offense was to be being sent the wrong cards and inadvertently leaking them. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out and expands their history
@spencerthomas913 Жыл бұрын
Found my way here after hearing about that whole situation lol.
@TheHiggybaby Жыл бұрын
IIRC, they didn't actually raid his home. They knocked on his door and demanded the return of the cards. Still somewhat bullying in appearance, but there was no raid involved.
@falcor200 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHiggybaby you come to my house with a gang of armed men demanding something that's mine legally that's a raid period
@RJ_Productions3164 жыл бұрын
"You people venerate savagery, and you will die! Savagely!" -Andrew Milton, 1899
@jurtra90904 жыл бұрын
Oh we're all gonna die, agent
@RJ_Productions3164 жыл бұрын
@@jurtra9090 "Some sooner than others!"
@hendadon7184 жыл бұрын
"enjoy your fishing, kid"
@juliocaesar22684 жыл бұрын
@@hendadon718 while you still can
@janoriegam4 жыл бұрын
I did a presentation on then and I’ve wanted to see more people cover them ever since! Great job guys!
@CitanulsPumpkin Жыл бұрын
How big was the view spike for this video in the weeks after Wizards of the Coast sent the Pinkertons to that guy's house to retrieve those Pre-Pre-Pre- prerelease magic cards?
@TransSappho4 жыл бұрын
0:48 it’s honestly really refreshing to hear someone talk about the railroad strike of 1877 cause it was both one of the most widespread strikes of its time and the opposition to it killed and injured so many. And it’s just not talked about enough
@torcaace Жыл бұрын
this just happened to appear in my yt recommended page. Considering recent events, i don't think it's randomized
@Quinini76 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly this is APPARENTLY very relevant TODAY too
@JohnnyElRed4 жыл бұрын
"Poderoso caballero es Don Dinero."
@lightlysalted77904 жыл бұрын
Rimane sontato pfuggure solo nero
@yahboisquishy5561 Жыл бұрын
Well this video is now relevant thanks to Wizards of the Coast.
@tathemrelag31234 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping you make an episode about Georgiy Khrustalyov-Nosar. The father of Russian socialism and one of the leading figures of the 1905 Russian Revolution, who was later driven from the RSDLP and killed on the orders of one of his own proteges, Leon Trotsky. He really deserves to be more well-known.
@охотникТомпсона4 жыл бұрын
Extra class consciousness
@DallinBackstrom4 жыл бұрын
@@охотникТомпсона underrated comment
@TransientWitch4 жыл бұрын
And then Trotsky was later driven out of his homeland by Stalin. I'd still say his ideas were better than Stalin's, but clearly he wasn't all that much better. Can't we have just one historical figure that's just half-way decent with no contradictory actions? Please?
@sandrosixarulidze3984 жыл бұрын
Where I can find information on his deeds and biography? there's even no wiki page for him. And that is weird, if he truly was such an important figure in Russian revolution.
@tathemrelag31234 жыл бұрын
@@sandrosixarulidze398 Sadly, there isn't a lot of readily-available information on him. Probably in large part thanks to Trotsky. There are a few mentions of him on the Wikipedia pages for the 1905 Russian Revolution and Leon Trotsky: "A strike by railway workers on 21 October [O.S. 8 October] 1905 quickly developed into a general strike in Saint Petersburg and Moscow. This prompted the setting up of the short-lived Saint Petersburg Soviet of Workers' Delegates, an admixture of Bolsheviks and Mensheviks headed by Khrustalev-Nossar." "By the time of Trotsky's arrival, the Saint Petersburg Soviet was already functioning headed by Khrustalyev-Nosar (Georgy Nosar, alias Pyotr Khrustalyov). Khrustalyev-Nosar had been a compromise figure when elected as the head of the Saint Petersburg Soviet. Khrustalev-Nosar was a lawyer that stood above the political factions contained in the Soviet. However, since his election, he proved to be very popular with the workers in spite of the Bolsheviks' original opposition to him. Khrustalev-Nosar became famous in his position as spokesman for the Saint Petersburg Soviet. Indeed, to the outside world, Khrustalev-Nosar was the embodiment of the Saint Petersburg Soviet. Trotsky joined the Soviet under the name "Yanovsky" (after the village he was born in, Yanovka) and was elected vice-chairman. He did much of the actual work at the Soviet and, after Khrustalev-Nosar's arrest on 26 November 1905, was elected its chairman." The citations provided for those sections are: Voline (2004). Unknown Revolution, Chapter 2: The Birth of the "Soviets" Isaac Deutscher, The Prophet Armed: Trotsky, 1879-1921, p. 131 Leon Trotsky, 1905, pg. 218 Additionally, there is a Russian Wikipedia page for him, if you can either read Russian or deal with the extremely broken Google translation of the page. Unfortunately, I can't link you directly to it because of the Russian characters in the url, but it's the second link in the "Usage on ru.wikipedia.org" section on this page: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Georgiy_Nosar.jpg#filelinks Hope that helps you get started!
@kudorgyozo Жыл бұрын
Wow what a coincidence that I get this in my recommended list to me right now
@jacestar3007 Жыл бұрын
They at it again, Agnes
@darthnihilus1608 Жыл бұрын
Well, thank WotC for bringing your video back into relevancy
@davidhansen5067 Жыл бұрын
Three guesses as to why a MtG player got this video in his recommendations at the end of April, 2023.
@skillganon606 Жыл бұрын
Me too lol
@MedioTaffy Жыл бұрын
Hey that's me!
@rashkavar4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. A pity this seems to be just a one-off, I'd be up for a whole series of Pinkertons' history. There's a lot to unpack in there.
@alexr67054 жыл бұрын
Note: the Pinkertons, albeit diminished, still exist today, still attempting to bust organized labor for the highest bidder, and other disgusting companies like them rose up in order to break the common man, and they’re still quite prominent, if much more subtle and silent.
@mapleflag6518 Жыл бұрын
And now stealing cards
@2hot34 Жыл бұрын
And were bought by a big Swedish company in 1999
@Paveway-chan Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to everyone back here after the Pinkertons were hired to steal back Magic: The gathering cards from a KZbinr who accidentally got merch before it was supposed to be released
@ApotreNoir Жыл бұрын
They've been in the news recently. Wizards of the coast sent some to a streamer's house after mistakingly sending him the wrong Magic card to tease. Zero chill
@D2RCR Жыл бұрын
This just became relevant again.
@kyuken893 Жыл бұрын
KZbin recommeding this to me shortly after WotC's use of them is... interesting to say nothing else.
@Jack_Zandara Жыл бұрын
Hey it's those guys Hasbro hired to harass someone for mistakenly sending him the wrong pack of cards two weeks before release date
@scorchclasstitan67274 жыл бұрын
“Agent Milton Agent Ross *Pinkerton detective agency heard you robbed a train up near granite pass* ?
@scorchclasstitan67274 жыл бұрын
David Castillo *sorry can’t do that friend*
@Ofxzh4 жыл бұрын
Schools should use these types of videos, it’s factual, and suited for modern audiences who would like a reason to study history. Because instead on a focus on a person, area, or time, it focuses on reasons, backstories, and other things. Not to mention the animations are professional and not just built to be educational, but for people to be interested in it without being up in your face.
@clamum4 жыл бұрын
Just FYI guys, the 's' is silent in "Illinois."
@Apesrock124 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing! Had to do a double listen!
@lobster53644 жыл бұрын
No, its spelled illinoi-s-e
@sethleoric25984 жыл бұрын
I'll Noise?
@MarlsbysDragons4 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you that was bugging me so much
@Genericnameperson4 жыл бұрын
It's illy-noice. Anything else is just propaganda
@amiscellaneoushuman35164 жыл бұрын
Learnt to pronounce "Glasgow" I see.
@wanderingrandomer4 жыл бұрын
Almost. It's still sounds more Glass-go than Glaz-go
@amiscellaneoushuman35164 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingrandomer he is an American so we should give him some leeway. Besides, at least it's not glass-cow
@luciddreaming44784 жыл бұрын
*learn No t in learn.
@frankdantuono25944 жыл бұрын
But not "Illinois", the "s" is silent. He made that mistake at least 3 times.
@FistoftheSnackBar4 жыл бұрын
@@frankdantuono2594 Dude, that was so painful. I often wonder if people outside of Illinois just don't know that.
@alancranford3398 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative presentation. I wish that public school history classes were as factual. One of the security guard companies I worked for was Pinkerton (and Pinkerton provided the guard force for Disneyland during the Fifties). Part of orientation was being taught Pinkerton history, but they left out the part about Allen Pinkerton's criminal activities. One part that really hit the target was that local "law enforcement" during the 19th Century had severe issues with corruption. Two other issues raised in this presentation were limited jurisdiction and general incompetence. Law enforcement didn't have to be competent at the time. One reason for the 1893 Anti-Pinkerton Act was that the Pinkertons were investigating corrupt law enforcement organizations run by Democratic Party political machines--and this was stopping the South from rising again. Now we have multiple alphabet organizations doing the same jobs that the Pinkertons did for the federal government.
@martinpat94 Жыл бұрын
Funny that this may be relevant now and days. Perhaps a revisit on the Pinkertons is in order?
@LemonMoon Жыл бұрын
Hmm, how convenient this appears in my subscriptions after recent events
@DivineShieldmaiden Жыл бұрын
Imagine having these mercenaries sent to your home for piece of cardboard...
@kriosuranous34404 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to mention, the “S” in Illinois is silent.
@kevinsullivan34484 жыл бұрын
There is no oy in Illinois either.
@kriosuranous34404 жыл бұрын
Kevin Sullivan ??? How do you pronounce it?
@sld17764 жыл бұрын
What? ??? I have always called them the Illiniissss.
@kirknay Жыл бұрын
Magic the gathering does a thing KZbin recommendations: I'm about to ruin this guy's entire legacy.
@RenMagnum40574 жыл бұрын
"A hundred thousand dollars, can I turn myself in? " Arthur Morgan
@indiepants-68614 жыл бұрын
“We want vanderlind” Milton
@Rajsilver4 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Marston is your name seriously Arthur Marston
@Goooose72 Жыл бұрын
nowadays they use the Pinkertons to raid youtubers for magic the gathering cards
@ossifiedprophet74954 жыл бұрын
F in chat for Hosea and Leny 😔
@josephattwell10064 жыл бұрын
I am sad there wasn't a Bioshock Infinite reference.
@RJ_Productions3164 жыл бұрын
I'm sad there wasn't a Red Dead reference
@Kadaspala4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad there wasn't a Deadwood clip of Al Swearengen saying "Fucking Pinkertons"
@CarrionCrow9934 жыл бұрын
In the UK we don't learn about the Pinkertons in school, but I've seen so many references of them in film and the like I wondered what on earth it was all about. Thanks for making it clear and fun, Extra History! :D
@thomasmanley9118 Жыл бұрын
And now theyre back in the news in 2023 thanks to Fucking Wizards
@charlie11ng424 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most significant impact Pinkerton had was often more than doubling the size of the confederate army in his estimates greatly contributing to General Mcellen's catastrophic caution and potentially greatly lengthening the Civil War.
@achintyanaithani8892 жыл бұрын
Which, ironically, ensured that the Union shall stay in long enough to whip up abolition and the total crushing of the South.
@kidayuki98844 жыл бұрын
I cringed every time he pronounced the 's' in Illinois.
@ZoeAlleyne4 жыл бұрын
I'm Australian and yet, same.
@nolanleblanc4 жыл бұрын
Yes, great video, but Illinoisy
@nolanleblanc4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised his cat didn't correct him
@Rez-bg7go Жыл бұрын
Apparently they also seize magic the gathering cards
@huxleyleodwalding57512 жыл бұрын
The story of Allan Pinkerton working for the working class in the beginning and ultimately leaving for the cushy life of a bourgeois boss of a prime union-busting agency reveals only one important truth. The liberation of the working class is a job for the worker alone.
@senorPachuChay4 жыл бұрын
Kate Warne, the first female detective hired by Pinkerton, is the one largely credited with rescuing Lincoln! It was her in that train with him to Washington! It is even believed that Pinkerton got their slogan "We never sleep" having been inspired by Kate Warne's vigilant watch over the President throughout the journey.
@drewberrycrunch1417 Жыл бұрын
I can not believe that in 2023 I'm watching this video because WotC just sent the literal Pinkertons to intimate and harass a client/youtuber.
@cofagrigusfan244 жыл бұрын
i hope there is gonna be a (multi part) episode(s) about the Dutch Empire
@callumjohnston858 Жыл бұрын
The wizards summoned me for a rewatch.
@stormhawkdude Жыл бұрын
KZbin algorithm working perfectly with the timing on this. Why the hell are they still around!?
@Austin.Kilgore Жыл бұрын
Wizards of the Coast are fcked up for this lol
@nickwesley35204 жыл бұрын
The S in Illinois is silent - Descendant of Chicago Natives
@JacKm0z Жыл бұрын
I'm here because Hasbro just used Pinkerton's to raid a guy's house for magic the gathering cards
@stefanneculae9502 Жыл бұрын
Same bruh
@mariteri150004 жыл бұрын
In touching on the topic of Allan Pinkerton, I was amazed you didn't bring up Kate Warne. He hired the first woman detective in the world. She was a part of the defense of President-Elect Abraham Lincoln, she was undercover for most of the Civil War in the United States, and she was a part of the Pinkerton Agency in charge of hiring women to go undercover as help to discover information they would never be privy to otherwise. Yes, she more than deserves a show of her own (hint, hint!), but his hiring her in the first place could have been seen as another feather in his cap.
@fishertheadore6095 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't Matter, that's why He didn't Mention her.
@basementdwellercosplay3 жыл бұрын
I'm using this for one of my sources in my history paper in the pinkerton's before and during the civil war, really good video!
@tdtdbanana4 жыл бұрын
This may have gone unnoticed by most but I have to say I love the Blazing Saddles reference in this episode!
@c182SkylaneRG4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this one. I was trying to explain the Pinkertons on another historical video (I believe it was The History Guy's videos on Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid), and was starting to second-guess whether they were actually as violent as I thought I remembered learning in school. Turns out, I was remembering correctly. :)
@KioAMVs4 жыл бұрын
The s is silent in Illinois. Source: I was born in Rockford. My family is from Chicago.
@thetriptasticteam44854 жыл бұрын
Finally caught up enough on their content to be apart of the early crew
@JamesZaraza-wv3gt7 ай бұрын
As a former union carpenter, it saddens me that violence was ever part of the formula when it came to organizing for worker’s welfare. Mercenaries are only called once there is a pretext for violent suppression. Never give them an excuse, and you can go to your Creator with clean hands.
@XxSubaDudexX4 жыл бұрын
I was just in homestead today! I was hanging out with my friends and always like to pass by the old smoke stacks from carnegie's steel mill
@SaiyanHeretic4 жыл бұрын
So like many "great men" of history, he was also conveniently hypocritical.
@reedhoward274 жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy is a requirement to be a class traitor.
@Soundwave35914 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many people branded as "colleagues" or "Comrades" hated each other's guts? look at all the "Communist" powers: the USSR and the PRC hated each other (they fought more than one border skirmish), and most of the South American and Southeast Asian "communists" simply used the USSR and China as resource mills. Ideology is distressingly fluid in the face of practicality. The US happily looked the other way at the Fascist regimes they put in power so long as they were ardently anti-communist. Hitler readily armed Muslims, Slavs, Poles and Ukrainians if they were willing to fight the allies for him. The Communist regime in Afghanistan was as farcically inept for the USSR as South Vietnam's government was for the USA.
@henryhaile16534 жыл бұрын
How was he hypocritical? His organization later betrayed his values, but the testing of workers isn't unethical, taking bribes is a crime and the testing of workers was a nessecary evil. While he may have opposed anarchists and socialists, he was overall a good man.
@NoFlu4 жыл бұрын
Well I think when making the video they forgot that he didn't strike because of work conditions or whatever but because he wanted to vote. Since people in the US could vote, he might have seen them as beeing too needy and whatnot. Now if this is true IDK but that's what I got from the video, if he was a socialist before, might have been good to mention that in the vid....
@evilbound4 жыл бұрын
@TrapLordHodor Yes
@michaelcurtis59624 жыл бұрын
Does nobody else notice him pronouncing the s at the end of Illinois?
@Logan-tz1ry Жыл бұрын
...Well fucking played, KZbin. Well fucking played
@terrorcop1014 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a Pinkerton documentary and you guys go and make one for me. Thanks.