Thirty Years War - The 2nd Horseman - European History - Extra History - Part 2

[@hansheden]

A soldier called Peter Hagendorf kept a diary during the war. Highly recomended.

[@raynitaylor1912]

Well I know who I'm recommending to Voices of the Past.

[@akramgimmini8165]

Very nice to read

[@NorthSea_1981]

@Lukas Verloy "Hagendorf" is not a Dutch surname.

[@yumenoko-g6y]

@Lukas Verloy could be from any Germanic country

[@tigertile5411]

He’s a mercenary

[@itwaswalpole]

"but then he started engaging in the most Hapsburg of hobbies: empire building" I would have said incest but yeah, let's go with that.

[@malcolmmacinnis247]

HAHAHAH

[@Malagar1]

No, I'm pretty sure the incest counted as a duty to them.

[@thomaskilmer]

I mean, the point of all the incest was empire building so ...

[@NL-ws5fv]

Huh... The Targaryens all over again.

[@harrisonlee9585]

There's a certain level of overlap there.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

“Then Ferdinand engaged in the most Hapsburg of hobbies” Me: EWWW!!! “Empire building.” Me: oh. Yeah I was thinking that too.

[@lucarioAdventure1]

Christian IV: Plunders monastaries for the gold and leaves the holy relics behind. Vikings: 'atta boy!

[@laurakastrup]

As a Dane. That has to be the most Danish thing to do. Sacking monasteries since 793

[@wow-roblox8370]

The ironic thing is that they are called"Christian"

[@EmilReiko]

@@wow-roblox8370 Christian, being a very fundamentalist Lutheran, diden’t actually consider Catholics christian… more like heretic blasphemers worse than heathens. Denmarks brand of Lutheranism at the time is somewhat indistinguishable from Islamic state in our time.

[@sebastianthomsen2225]

some things never change XD

[@KarryKarryKarry]

Leaving the relics behind was also a nice way to affirm his protestantism since they don’t believe in saints and relics. He’s quite famous in Denmark for building many historical landmarks which were paid for with wealth plundered from the Catholics and for being a fat rowdy bastard with a thirst for naval warfare and wine.

[@sal6695]

"but then he started engaging in the most Habsburg of hobbies-" "INCE-" "-empire building" "Oh..."

[@itarry4]

Ahhh empire building - chin building its all pretty much the same with the Habsburgs.

[@GandWizard]

You're not wrong :)

[@ruthswann88]

To the Habsburgs, they are two sides of the same coin

[@Caseyuptobat]

Empire building was a hobby that they supported through the business of incest and war.

[@crimsonclover87]

Tbf that was the other notable Habsburg hobby

[@abcdef27669]

If the Thirty Years War was a Street Fighter game, Germany itself would be the car destroyed during the bonus stages.

[@Mar1aHass4n]

10th Like

[@Mar1aHass4n]

Your likes doubled in a minute

[@Mar1aHass4n]

Your likes quadripled in 10 minut3s

[@apollyonnoctis1291]

Prussia is the car becoming a transformer and kicking the Player’s ass.

[@diarradunlap9337]

@@apollyonnoctis1291 Not for another half-century, though.

[@ocadioan]

An important note about the Danish Intervention is that the Danish king was also a Duke of the HRE, so Ferdinand's extended ambitions were a direct threat not to the Kingdom of Denmark, but to Christian IV's personal titles in the HRE.

[@christofferpinderup2231]

A curious note on that is, that Christian IV didn't intervene as the king of Denmark, as the counsel around him blocked that. Instead he used his personal titel as Duke of Slesvig-Holstein and his personal funds to circumvent the console and still intervene.

[@xavierlecaros1623]

@@christofferpinderup2231 Not that Wallenstein took notice of that; he claimed that Denmark could be invaded bc it's king was waging war against the empire even if its nobles had not as you said given him any funds or troops he required.

[@hulkflyer6511]

"20,000 men woman and children die in a scene from hell" 5 seconds later "Thanks So Much to Curiosity Stream for sponsoring this video!"

[@vassily-labroslabrakos2263]

Ah yeah the wedding of Magdeburg. Yeah that's its official name

[@Tribune_of_Italia]

scene*

[@rickbergolla4055]

@Leonardo Gurney yeah I agree with no you

[@darealist690]

@Zeno the Filipino oh no 20,000 people died nearly 500 years ago I'm so sorry

[@chico9805]

@Leo the British-Filipino Well, it's been 500 years so...eh.

[@daswordofgork9823]

EH: Then he started engaging in the most Hapsburg Hobbies. Me: Inbreeding? EH: Empire building Me: Oh.......

[@arutka2000]

SWEET HOME *V I E N N A*

[@Freekymoho]

one goes hand in hand with the other!

[@AlcoholicBoredom]

Mommy said it’s a strong chin for a strong boy!

[@arutka2000]

@@AlcoholicBoredom That's a chin you can play baseball with.

[@razatronidiotics9430]

Wait incest wasn't the most Hapsburg thing to do????🤔

[@jackjennaway1727]

A much needed series. I've always learned more about the aftermath of the war, but I've never learned much about the war itself.

[@Volnas97]

Gustavus Adolphus was paying his soldiers more, so they wouldn't pillage and punnished those who did. He of course couldn't be everywhere, but his soldiers were a bit "nicer" than other soldiers. But then he died and his successors weren't so enlightened.

[@Starthclyde]

didn't he also go out of his way to punish towns that he captured and found evidence of witch trials having taken place ?

[@CrowColdblade]

My favourite part is that Sweden had to continue fighting the war to fund their war effort.

[@vassily-labroslabrakos2263]

You mean the band of marauders(the term also got coined in this war, basicly those crippled by the war formed their own bands of bandit) his army became.

[@Volnas97]

@Oritra Kar I know, but she didn't lead armies personally.

[@Volnas97]

@@nicolausg7058 I didn't say they were nice, I said they were nicer in quotation marks

[@d0ener4life]

I’ve read in a book about Wallenstein that the horrors of the 30 years’ war resulted from a combination of too much and not enough economy. Unlike in the middle ages, countries now has the money to raise large armies, but they didn’t yet have the economy or bureaucracy to supply the army.

[@charliecussans7638]

Enough money to create an army but not sustain one.

[@Ulfbhert9000]

Catholic church seeing they're churches being looted by Danish and Swedish troops 600 years after the Viking age: Hold on I've seen this before!

[@beersmurff]

All their churches are belong to us!

[@ATemplarIGuess]

@@beersmurff not just the churches, but the land, and Normandy too

[@colindunnigan8621]

When faced with objections to the savagery of his army, Count Tilly is said to have retorted, "Who do you think my men are, nuns?"

[@itarry4]

Any child bought up by nuns finches and says well no I'm not saying they are that bad...

[@speedy01247]

the correct response would be "N0, I expected them to be human"

[@tengokuro]

@@speedy01247 Im afraid this type of behavior is very much human friend :( .......

[@Author_Paluthor]

@@speedy01247 That's how humans act when they're unpaid and undersupplied.

[@chamel9771]

2:39 The Netherlands didn't gain complete independence from Spain until the Peace of Westphalia in 1648 3:10 Phillip II died in 1598, the spanish ruler at the start of the thirty years war was Phillip III, later succeeded by Phillip IV in 1621. 4:20 The spanish domains in Europe at that date also included Portugal, Sardinia, Sicily, Naples, Milan, Franche-Compté, Belgium (Flanders and Wallonia), Luxembourg and the Netherlands (although part of the dutch territory was just held nominally)

[@2eme_voltigeur652]

Not just that, by the time the 30 years war started, the Dutch were already 50 years in war with Spain. We call this war the 80 years war which also ended in the Peace of Westphalia.

[@maxdekker6078]

@@2eme_voltigeur652 but in 1612 there was a 9 years armistice that ended in 1621, so for 3 years the dutch backed up the protestant in the rest of the HRE lang leve het kolonisme

[@Noidonteatbabiesstopasking]

Yikes these videos can be really inaccurate at times

[@MeliDavin]

4:20 Agree. And why the territory of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is marked as Russia on this map?

[@jaztin7960]

@@MeliDavin bruh I understand not knowing Spain had all those territories, but Poland? Really?

[@schamakkii]

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

[@javkhlanenkhbaatar3843]

yeah, your profile look very like nail.

[@DrippyPootis]

@@javkhlanenkhbaatar3843 @javkhlanenkhbaatar looks very like a nail

[@Ubrzani]

"And then came the king od Sweden, Gustavus Adolphus." *Sabaton intesifies*

[@ignacio1171]

no

[@talos2384]

Gustavus Adolphus come fourth

[@festethephule7553]

@@talos2384 Libera, impera

[@4501productions]

GUSTAVOUS ADOLPHUS LIBERA ET IMPERA ACERBUS ET INGENS AUGUSTA PER ANGUSTA

[@state_song_xprt]

4:15 flash forward to lies "we forgot about the Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth"

[@fjz4289]

Fun fact: for a long time after, the complete and utter annihilation of a city was called „Magdeburgisation“

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

Not to be matched until Dresden?

[@joshuafrimpong244]

Frederick V: becomes the illegal king of Bohemia Christian IV: Who advised you to drive out kings and seize kingdoms?

[@foam3132]

Hi bro

[@andersasblom6452]

6:53 The viking tradition of plundering churches die hard.

[@itarry4]

Henry viii looking at the vikings. Nice idea but you need to think bigger. Now that man took things to a whole other level.

[@dr.swagington7754]

The rest of the world: Europe can you chill Europe: I have no chill

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia - Some Sicilian

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Vietnam: i hear you man.

[@wtfbros5110]

there's war everywhere you go in 1600s this is not just a European thing

[@joshuafrimpong244]

Christian IV: I've decided to intervene Gustavus Adolphus: Liberum et imperium

[@Jinger4Jesus]

Acerbus et ingens, Augusta per angusta!

[@riograndedosulball248]

*Angry Austrian cuirassier noises increasing*

[@thenewmisterwehrmacht893]

French*: Oh look! I'll gonna join and kick Spain and Habsburg arse! *French is an Catholic nation, mind you.

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

Adolpus

[@iamarealhuman6359]

I am so glad that I know that my ancestors were living in a swamp land while the Swedes plundert the closest city during that time

[@jakobtarrasericsson4295]

*'And I saw him open the second seal, and lo, a red horse, and he had that sat upon it was given power to take peace from the earth. They made ready for war'*

[@reaperking2121]

And you wonder why Germany had a bone to pick with everyone. The question isn’t who hurt Germany but instead who didn’t.

[@paulenan9636]

With Germany being at the top of that list, lol

[@vassily-labroslabrakos2263]

It's more like nobody wanted the holy Roman empire to become a unified state

[@spanishboysmodels2876]

think only Lichtenstein didn't hurt them

[@sohamacharya171]

@@vassily-labroslabrakos2263 Napoleon wanted that As long as he was in control.

[@fiddleriddlediddlediddle]

Germany: Does anything. Also Germany: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."

[@hemidas]

"Silent enim leges inter arma (In times of war, the law falls silent)." ― Marcus Tullius Cicero

[@hamzaferoz6162]

Germany: The Afghanistan of Medieval Europe

[@cometmoon4485]

@Herr Spiegel I mean, it's in the middle

[@jonahpeacock2561]

the thirty years war is my number one pick for a time not to be born.

[@AmitGuptaVlogs]

Jonah ji ❤️ humne bhi recently videos banana chalu kiya hai on life in IRELAND, time mile toh ek baar jarur dekheye ❤

[@fiddleriddlediddlediddle]

Don't worry. Millions of children weren't. :)

[@pointly]

I'm glad this artist is back. I prefer this artist over the others.

[@RetrousseRaptor]

They are still animating the King of Spain as Philip II not Philip III lmao

[@Isenie5]

And then is the fourth

[@oihanlarranegi472]

@Leonardo Gurney in what sense?

[@ricardodemarco3486]

@@oihanlarranegi472 while Phillip II was a man of state and politics, working hard to rule a world spamming empire (he was also king of Portugal at that time so he also ruled over parts of Africa and India plus Phillipine islands and America) and was a pretty chill man, not wanting to conquer more, he already had much work, and only wanted to be referred as “sir” instead of “your majesty” and with your hat in your hand instead of a pompous reverence, his son Phillip III left all the ruling to his “validos” and got into hunts and parties instead.

[@swordsnspearguy5945]

From dawn to dawn they're fighting Die where they stand The fog of war lies thick When armies scorch the land When all of Europe is burning What can be done? They've been to war a decade Two more to come!

[@IntrepidIanRinon]

Long way from home!

[@semweerts]

has man gone insane a few wil remain

[@homeworksdone2378]

Zoe’s eyes stare into your soul...

[@virajp__]

Thanks!

[@extrahistory]

Thank you so much for supporting the show Viraj!

[@Oxtocoatl13]

One of Tilly's men was wounded during the fighting around Magdeburg and couldn't take part in the sack, so his wife went instead. Someone had to provide for the family.

[@deteon1418]

Great video! I very much like that you focus on the civilian aspect of war!

[@CEngelbrecht]

Caricature drawing 101: No noses, no necks, no arms, legs are lines, heads are baby size.

[@thomasschwenke7486]

So this is like three years to late but I've never heard an English speaker pronounce my hometown of Magdeburg so flawlessly! Respect!

[@LikeTheBuffalo]

Come for the History. Stay for the Zoey.

[@MapleStarBlitz]

awww omg kitty at the end soo cuute

[@tomitiustritus6672]

There was an military rank at the time, the "Brandmeister". The Brandmeisters role was to ransom villages and settlements for vsluab!es and supplies under the(routinele realized)threat of thoroughly burning them down. Brandmeister (fire-master) is ironically today the title of the chief of many local firefighter chapters.

[@IIBomerII]

You'd figure that they wouldn't make the same mistake twice in a row. Yet in recent episodes they flipped the Dutch flag and now the Dutch flag is not the Dutch flag, but Luxumbourg's flag.

[@jamier65551]

I thought the Dutch had luxembourgs flag for a while

[@DwarfenBlizzard]

It's the Dutch "Statenvlag" which was used at the time, not the Luxembourgish flag, though I can see how you mixed them up as they're basically the same...

[@mcnaughe]

"BA GAWD! ITS FRANCE WITH THE STEEL CHAIR! AND HE'S GOT THE POPE IN HIS CORNER! GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY!"

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

@Leonardo Gurney England that Hypeman lurking outside the ring, waiting to climb on the top turnbuckle and drop an atomic elbow

[@PramkLuna]

That opening gave me the chills... Thanks Extra History :)

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

Love the design of the sword

[@themistikcrow]

Wow history is metal

[@amdreallyfast]

You should let Zoey be the narrator to an episode sometime. With subtitles, of course.

[@A-G-A-G]

“The most hapsburg of hobbies” Really thought he was gonna say incest there for a second

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

PANR has tuned in.

[@MrAc010]

The more I learn about history the more empathy I feel for the commen people. Like did people even know that their country was at war? From their perspective this must of felt like the end of the world. The scene 7:43 just broke me.

[@timothystamm3200]

I think the people would have figured out they were at war when mercenaries were constantly pillaging to make up for not being paid. But yes I doubt they would understand why the people ostensibly in charge were ripping the foundations out from under them.

[@iamseamonkey6688]

i was expecting this episode to be called "war". all the episodes should simply be named after the four horses

[@hannahstading5687]

The talking about Cursity and all the coffee. That was great. Would love to see more of you and Zo

[@tristansoendergaard7867]

Great video!

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

4:20 when did Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was conquered by Russia?

[@timesnewlogan2032]

It’s interesting how the three bloodiest European wars were caused by angry Austrian men.

[@NicholasMarshall]

8:55 for IRL Zoey action.

[@jergarmar]

Great overview of the conflict. As is described in this video, these were "religious wars" only in the sense that the battle lines were determined by religious affiliation (Roman Catholic or Protestant), not because Catholics and Protestants personally hated each other that much. Or put another way, each area's religious affiliation was much more rooted in their pre-existing social and political divides; when war broke out, those socio-political divides were usually the real causes being fought for. For example, as shown in the video, one big threat was Frederick II's absolutism, and the potential dominance of the Holy Roman Empire, and its threat to other nations/kingdoms/empires/families.

[@Т1000-м1и]

It's so weird that this period has so many wars

[@aninterestingtitle7581]

Please don't forget to mention where the war ended, Osnabrück! Our cities entire image is to this day based on that peace treaty.

[@sevaraeg4770]

"And behold a red horse, and he that sat thereon was given power to take peace from the earth". They made ready for war...

[@HunterSentinel]

Hehehe, “no, I don’t have a coffee addiction!” [proceeds to slam an entire pot of coffee]

[@johnnymonsters9717]

"You tell'em I'm coming and I'm bringing hell with me" Tombstone

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Daenerys: Dracarys! Pope: Pfffft....Hold my holy water. Besides, dragon was a synonym for Satan. Extra Heresy.

[@YD39222]

4:22 is an inaccurate map as the HRE part of burgundy was part of the spanish domains jsut as milan, naples,and the southern hollands (modern belgium and luxembourg)

[@Darkout412]

Many of the Spanish ruled regions around Germany remained technically part of the Holy Roman Empire, despite being ruled from Madrid. Flanders and Wallonia would remain so even after the 30 Year's War.

[@YD39222]

@@Darkout412 of course they are, the thing is that they are ruled by a sovereign kingdom to

[@pixie7349]

I have been blessed by the sight of the fuzzy void!!!

[@Ryu_D]

Thank you for the episode.

[@MissBelice]

Thanks for the video! You did a really good job pronouncing Magdeburg!

[@Valhain]

Been reading a book series about this era of history called the Ring of Fire in which a town from West Virginia get transplanted into Thuringia.

[@toddkes5890]

1632!

[@Valhain]

Yup! Awesome series.

[@khaleddekar2188]

There are no many movies about Thirty years war, but there are one are underrated movie " the last valley" is one of master piece of cinema

[@friday26th]

A time of religion and war legends tell the tale of a lion This beast in the shape of a man with a dream to rule sea and land And all those who stand in his way die by God and victorious arms With the righteous that follows him south once more set ashore to war Legends have taught battles fought this lion has no fear at heart Lion come forth come from the north, come from the north Gustavus Adolphus, Libera et impera Acerbus et ingens, Augusta per augusta

[@Isenie5]

Nördlingen

[@briangarrow448]

Read the alternative history book by Eric Flynt that uses this period of history as it’s backdrop. Definitely worth the time.

[@Mr.Foxstone]

Lion come forth Come from the North Come from the Nooooorth Gustavus! Adolphus! Libera et Impera! Acerbus et Ingens! Agusta er Angusta!

[@souravghosh4405]

Excellent Video! I never thought History is kinda easy like this Before... Please Make a Video on 51 Shakti Pithas(Divine Mother's Temples) in the Hindu mythology series... ❤❤❤❤LOTS OF LOVE & BLESSINGS From INDIA 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@pileofcheese5017]

heey! You got the Dutch flag right side up, good on you! Also, the map at 4:17 isn't accurate

[@juamplo13]

8:05 i had the feeling this conflict was very similar to berserk's story and this just confirmed it

[@mustafaali3333-q1m]

True

[@GearHeadedHamster]

When the 2 min add at the end is just as entertaining as the main video... Keep up the great work guys. You too Zoey. :)

[@Author_Paluthor]

This war is basically "keep your armies paid and supplied or else this happens"

[@ghostwriterj9421]

The money angle reminds me of a professor of mine who maintained that "For Profit Warfare" had ended by about the 1100's which is why money and such became such a deeply important thing from the Hundred Years War onward

[@senkosan3753]

Pls make a vid on the Maratha war of Independence it's a very very interesting topic

[@jeremy1860]

I wonder how the Hapsburgs would react if someone were to tell them that their incestuous tendencies would be the most enduring and well-known fact about them? 😅

[@francisman60]

I think they would simply shrug. Purity of the bloodline is more important.

[@jonathanowen9917]

The sack of Magdeburg in Lower Saxony resulted in the deaths of 20,000 citizens and the burning of 1,700 buildings. In the span of four days only 5,000 inhabitants and 200 buildings remained. War is hell.

[@constantinexi6489]

Wow who would have thought the Imperial Japanese Army was basically the modern version of a 17th century army frolicking around Central Europe

[@nicholas209]

Being a fan of Eric Flint's 1632 series, I shouted when Gustavus Adolphus showed up.

[@earnestbrown6524]

Need to get back into them. Enjoyed them alot.

[@hallamhal]

And when the lamb opened the second seal I saw the second Horse The Horseman held a sword...

[@AmitGuptaVlogs]

Hallam ji ❤️ humne bhi recently videos banana chalu kiya hai on life in IRELAND, time mile toh ek baar jarur dekheye ❤

[@Battleship009]

5:33 Start Lion From The North!

[@Black-Sun_Kaiser]

That was an amazingly drawn cartoon horse.

[@simonscience5846]

"Hey, do you reaaaaaaaaaaaally need to keep those saints bones in a gold box. No you dont. Yoink!"

[@Manawolfman]

Behold the army of murderhobos.

[@Peace84Maker]

I love you guys and Zoey so much.

[@Ilichburger]

My brain always turns off when I try to delve into the HRE. But you are doing a great job explaining its history!

[@MerkhVision]

Ahhh IRL Zoey is so cute!! I love the way he’s holding her too!

[@HunBaneTheBest]

Ohh ohh! Looks like it's... it's... IT'S ALMOST HARVESTING SEASON!

[@anderskalmar]

I would love to See a series on Christian IV as he is Very important to modern danish history

[@gabr.7878]

I like learning, also that's a cute cat

[@RamzaBeowulf]

"You ready, Zoey?" "Mew!"

[@danand75]

1:53 But then he started engaging in the most habsburg of hobbies Me : INCEST!!!!! Empire building Me: Oh! And that as well

[@letsmessup648]

Good

[@PatOHehe]

Hahahaha killed me when you were constantly pressing/pouring/drinking coffee 🤣🤣🤣 this bit worked out great 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@erusean8492]

Matthew: "Then he started engaging in the most Habsburg if hobbies" Me: "Inbreed-" Matthew: "Empire Building" Me: "oh"

[@Jubel06]

Great vid!

[@yourfilmindustry]

4:20 Never knew that Russia and the Ottoman Empire were one and the same