Rocroi 1643 - THIRTY YEARS' WAR DOCUMENTARY

[@KingsandGenerals]

[@Jodonho]

KZbin is a mystery hidden inside a hemorrhoid.

[@Liquidsback]

Do it.

[@DerFoerderator]

Oh! Please!

[@ajithsidhu7183]

Yess please do on on the 1st anglo sikh or afgan sikh wars

[@francherogamer5187]

HI

[@ArmaCookie]

We really need a Total War in that Period

[@MalayArcher]

That I agree but CA needs to upgrade their engine.. and better AI.

[@ArmaCookie]

@@MalayArcher and get away from the whole Legendary Lord thing...

[@freshpinpop]

we might get a saga title based in the era but i doubt we will get a full title in the area any time soon since CA seems to be really trying to pull away from naval battles/design and i cant imagine a full total war title in the area not having naval battles

[@fartballs7094]

@@freshpinpop ? What famous naval campaigns happened during the 30 years war? Sure it would fit the scale, colonial empires being a thing already, but the 30 years war was primarily a war in mainland europe.

[@kurremkarmerruk8718]

That would be great, but only if CA aren't involved . . .

[@aaronjones2117]

Random fact: General L'hospital is father of Guillaume de L'Hospital, the mathematician who is the namesake of L'Hospital's Rule.

[@KingsandGenerals]

I guess, nobility has its uses from time to time :-)

[@PPandaPete]

Didn't L'Hopital bought the Formula from Bernoulli who needed money. He didn't invent it himself. Thats what my Math Prof says

[@mojepele]

​@@PPandaPete I can confirm this, our Math Prof said the same thing

[@christermi]

He revolutionized what we know about limits and indeterminacies in mathematics , using derivatives in the process.

[@erethon9467]

@@PPandaPete This is a popular belief but it has not been historically confirmed, making it as good as hearsay.

[@halidehelux5221]

Not even Spanish....but that last stand of the Tercio paintings is among one of my favorite wartime artworks.

[@Redeemedmed]

Is this the battle depicted in alatriste ?

[@halidehelux5221]

@@Redeemedmed yes I'm quite sure it is.....the final scene is set in Rocroi.

[@salvadorrodriguez5113]

Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau, nicknamed "The battle´s painter".

[@officeandbusiness8056]

la pintura es hermosa eso es algo indudable pero es algo propio de la imaginacion del pintor

[@henrimourant9855]

I always found the 30 years war fascinating.

[@KingsandGenerals]

It is! So many colorful characters!

[@marcofrank2082]

Me too. And you can still see the impact of that war in the area I live in.

[@AleF202]

@@parsman9914 Nah, i'd rather give that title to the 7 years' war.

[@umaransari9765]

@@AleF202 7 years war was actually world war as it was fought in Asia, Europe, Americans, and I guess on Africa as well

[@thabomuso6254]

The 30 years war is certainly fascinating, but also a shocking, big and bloody carnage. Particularly against civilians. And many soldiers and their commanders lost both sense and care about what they were fighting for and whom they fought against for the moment. First catholics against protestants, then German protestants uniting with german protestants, but then France and Spain, both catholic nations, intervenes on either side. It degenerated into a war for the sake of war itself and continued decade after decade. Son's taking the places of their fathers in the various armies. Enemy territories being pillaged and plundered. Friendly territories being pillaged, burned and plundered by the troops who were supposed to protect them. 30% of Germany's population perished in that war and left a scar on the country for over a century. While the war turned Sweden into a major European power, as well as destroying the Holy Roman Empire and crippled Spain's power on the continent. The war was the first proto "modern" war in Europe and finally made regular armies with guns triumph over feudal or semi-feudal armies using pikes and swords as their most important weapon.

[@SantomPh]

the movie Alartiste and the books it it based on ends on this battle, featuring Viggo "Aragorn" Mortenson.

[@ebbelille]

It's kind of odd, because they had great depictions of warfare earlier in the movie. The final scene is beautiful, for sure, but it does not in any way convey the feeling that the final stand of the veteran Tercio was part of a larger battle. The french are CAMPED next to the Tercio's last stand position for god's sake. Great movie nonetheless.

[@RedJohnO22]

Viva la Capitan Vigo!!!

[@GumaroRVillamil]

"Este es un tercio español"

[@juanmantecon2195]

"Decid al Duque de Enghien que agradecemos sus palabras. Pero este es un Tercio español" "Tell the Duc d'Enghien that we thank him for his words, but this is a Spanish Tercio"

[@condottieroperifollo7722]

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[@ahmedal-tayy7332]

rumor says hes still waiting for beck

[@RedJohnO22]

He was too busy making his next hit album lol.

[@E5rael]

Hitler 300 years later waiting for Steiner's counterattack.

[@andersschmich8600]

I can't tell you how long I have waited for someone to do this battle! I think a lot of people have a somewhat Anglo-centric perspective just because of the latter British Empire, and it is easy to forget just how much of a colossal power house Spain actually was during the early modern period.

[@ralfwolters3843]

still couldnt beat the netherlands though

[@ДмитрийЛевыкин-н4р]

It's true, England was a dominant sea power for 100 years (from Vienna congress to WW1) but Spain was dominant both on land and sea for about 150 years. Whereas England has always been a dwarf in terms of land force. That's why so much PR for the relatively moderate battle of Waterloo, although the much bigger and more decisive battle of Leipzig is less known.

[@louiscasteran6298]

And France also!

[@elguapodelmonte215]

@@fabrixioable 500 years of the Black Legend, and they're are not finished yet ....Right now, in the 21st century the Black Legend lives on - I know personally as I am the personification of the new age Black Legend.......just like the Tercios - some things are hard to kill. Just some facts about the Battle of Rocroi, the actual Spanish Tercios fought and stayed on the battlefield whilst some of their allies such as the Italians, Walloons & Flemish left the battlefield when the Cavalry had been defeated by the numerically superior heavy French Cavalry. The French heavy cavalry made at least 8-10 charges at the Tercios, the Spanish never sent messages of surrender - this is an OUTRIGHT LIE ( this is what the Tercios where famous for - "nunca se rinden" - I guess this must be another example of the Black Legend ) the French had offered terms of surrender to the surviving units - the Spanish loses where at over 60% - and they never broke formation, and the French allowed the Tercios off the battle field carrying their weapons and regimental colors. This was the first defeat of the Spanish Tercios in nearly 200 years, and it is said that it was mainly due to the defeat of the cavalry, together with the desertion of their allies. When one of the French Officers asked one of the Spanish soldiers "How many Spanish Tercios had fought here today? thinking some of them had escaped with the allies, the young soldier replied .......... count the dead'

[@SamuelHallEngland]

Spain was leagues ahead of England at the time, I thought that viewpoint was the norm.

[@DerFoerderator]

Finally someone who brings this conflict to the international audience!

[@Nestoras_Zogopoulos]

agreed

[@itzikashemtov6045]

Honestly it was still to complicated to understand all the sides / who against who and whatever, It was the first video in this channel that I stopped watching in the mid way.

[@xenotypos]

@@itzikashemtov6045 I honestly don't understand what is complicated. Apart maybe the fact that France was on the protestant side despite being catholics, just to fight the Habsburg and especially Spain (since they were rivals).

[@nickdouglas736]

@@xenotypos literally everything about the 30 year war is complicated. It's one of the most complex conflicts ever.

[@itzikashemtov6045]

@@xenotypos First I am not from Europe which makes it abit more difficult naturally, But the main problem is the lack of explanation of who against who and why, Who the hell are the "Imperials"? Why they are even fighting to begin with... Usually the other videos have very popular topics which doesn't even need the basic explanation but hell this war wasn't popular at all (At least to none Europeans) and many starting out without even knowing what the hell is going on.

[@Jakub-tc6mh]

What I really don't like these days is the very Anglo-Saxon-centric way of teaching history (I am from Czech Republic btw). Maybe it was just my particular secondary school (or a teacher), but I remember that we were for example taught American Civil War and War of Independance in much bigger detail than European history of 1500-1789. We studied in bigger details the parts important for Czech history (War of the Austrian succession and Seven-Years War for example, as well as Battle of White-Mountain, of course), but when it came to the overall picture of European politics, we were just taught relatively basic stuff. When it comes to the Battle of Rocroi (essentially a turning point between Spanish and French domination of the continent), I don't remember that the teacher ever mentioned it in the class (maybe she did, but either way, it was not considered to be a major and important information - eventhough it was something much more relevant for Europe than for example Battle of Bosworth in 1485, which I still remember to this day as we discussed the War of Roses in much bigger detail)

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic6379]

Really? Our history lessons mostly focused on the Romans and then Chinese and Japanese history. American history is rarely taught except for the Aztecs and then Spanish.

[@Jakub-tc6mh]

We studied Romans (and Greeks) in some detail as well (although barely anything about China, Japan and also India - other than some bits about their antiquity) I am actually pretty surprised that you were not taught the US history... I get it you are not from the US/Canada/EU... :D

[@xenotypos]

Even in France we are a bit influenced by the anglo view (actually: USA's view, since it's really only that), but I guess maybe less than in the Czech Republic. We learn about Egypt/Greece/Rome regarding antiquity (I always found curious the focus on Egypt regarding the middle-east part, since Mesopotamia is at least as important but is barely even mentioned). Then most of the middle-age is briefly mentioned, without much details (except maybe for Charlemagne and the 100 years war), and then the 16th/17th/18th/19th centuries are covered with details. Not even mentionning the 20th, maybe even too detailed for me (I'm not into modern history).

[@Jakub-tc6mh]

​@@xenotypos ​ We also study some basic facts about Mesopotamia and then Egypt, Greece and Rome in bigger detail. When it comes to early medieval era, it's again basic stuff, mostly pertaining to our own history. The period from like 900-1450 we do study in some detail from our point of view (as well as some rather basic information of general European history), as Bohemia was actually a pretty big player in the region. From like 1450 to 1914, we kind of go through all of the major events in European history, with stopping at certain points and studying them in bigger detail. These selections were, as I said, quite often focused (although not always, of course) on English or American history, with Spanish, French, Russian history being in general kind of underrepresented (of course, we did have French Revolution in a relative detail, although not so much Napoleon) 1914-1989 (or so, I don't exactly know, when do our history lessons stop these days) were done in much bigger detail, mostly with the focus of WWI, WWII and communism/Cold War. So it's not like our history education is completely focused on the Anglo-Saxon view of the world, it's only that from like 1450 to 1900 there are more episodes from history of England and America that were chosen to teach in bigger detail (I guess that maybe in today's English language-dominated world, knowing in bigger detail what was the US War of Independance and Civil War is objectively more important than having deeper knowledge of for example Napoleonic Wars and Thirty-Years War... and our schooling simply adjusted to this reality)

[@Thimolin]

@@Jakub-tc6mh Probably depends on the school because I remember this stuff from our lessons ( grammar school ). I guess some teachers tend to focus on part of the history they like and found interesting for them.

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

"On the fields before Rocroy there stands an unassuming grey monolith, the grave stone of the Spanish Army; almost, one might say, the gravestone of Spanish greatness." - C.V. Wedgewood

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

I swear I'll go there someday to pay respect to those men.

[@su_morenito_1948]

Martijn Steinpatz The tercios still won lots of battles in the 30 years war after rocroi,just not against France Spanish greatness didn’t really end at that battle,it ended when Charles II became the king of spain and everything got fucked up,spain kept being a major power with the bourbons,just not the #1

[@RedJohnO22]

France had three, but Espania had THE muskateer. Viva la Capitan Alatriste!

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

@@su_morenito_1948 my apologies, I did not know that. I just thought it was a very beautiful apt line to quote here. (Wedgewood's Thirty year War is one of my favorite books - and also from the 1930's) Seems like I need to read a little more about old Spain. Thanks for mentioning.

[@su_morenito_1948]

Martijn Steinpatz One of the best examples is the battle of the Valenciennes which occurred after rocroi,Condé fought in Spain’s side in this battle though.

[@wjzav1971]

Spaniads duck whenever the Swedes fire a volley Swedes: "Wait, that's illegal!"

[@mcsmash4905]

its somewhat comical

[@ricksandoval7130]

I wonder about that. If it was effective you'd expect others to copy it. Then again doing something to mitigate the risk of death is probably better for morale than standing ground

[@wjzav1971]

@@ricksandoval7130 My guess is that its a little bit hard to tell when exactly the enemy is gonna fire his volley.

[@blecao]

@@ricksandoval7130 The thing is that having the men do that migth be quite hard this formations are massive after all

[@cseijifja]

@@ricksandoval7130 the spanish were excelent veteran soldiers, much of waht they did was unreplicable for other nations because tehir soldiers jsut werent as veteran. Of course, when you take huge L's like in this battle, you are done.

[@GGdeTOURS37]

I am French so I can say without being suspected of nationalism that the Spanish Tercios were incredibly strong and that they ruled the battles in Europe for a very long time. I had been told that one of their "secrets" was that they didn't separate the soldiers coming from the same city, same region or same family and never split into differents units like were doing all the other Europeans armies (and like they are still doing today)! So those soldiers were highly motivated to help or revenge their brothers in arms and knowing they would be helped by their full unit! This plus their long experience were creating some fabulous communities of fighters!

[@alexioskomnenos5290]

The reason why soldiers are separated is actually also to build unity within the regiment! The Romans, the Mongols, and the Carthaginians under Hannibal did a similar thing. The logic is that if you organize a group of men into a squad of ten, and deliberately picked a group who formerly spoke different languages and had different places of birth, and then made them depend on each other with their lives, you could create a unified culture within both the army and society at large, so that all soldiers would see each other as equals. This was particularly important for world spanning empires, as many of their soldiers would have been raised in very different environments (e.g a Thracian would often fight side by side with a Gaul). Of course, to build this sort of camaraderie, you would need these men to train together for years, if not decades (something that wasn't too common even during the renaissance, hence why organizing forces based on the city of origin would be useful if you wanted to quickly draft up a fighting force). This actually worked wonders for Rome, who was able to culturally assimilate all cultures that it came into contact with (and then directly integrated many local customs into their own culture) for thousands of years (Rus tribesmen, Vikings, and Anglo Saxons continued to serve the Roman Empire up until the Sack of Constantinople in 1204 by the Latins).

[@luclasnier7147]

Tu as raison Guillaume, c'est pour cela que je m'interroge sur la tour de Babel linguistique de l'OTAN.

[@hawawah8671]

A lot of armies did that, armies were often recruited regionally and thus each region would provide troops recruited therein. This practice largely stopped due to the scale of modern warfare and the possible annihilation of entire male populations of towns. Imagine your town of 1000 has 100 young men recruited into the military and during a battle the unit is wiped out. Your town hasn't just lost 10% of its population, it lost those from its young male population. If your town formerly had say 200 men from 15-30 that number would have been halved. If the units are split up you might have less espirit de corps but the casualties of a unit have far less effect on the home front.

[@arielquelme]

Tercios is essentially 16th century version of Alexander Phalanx Its unbtrakable in close range, but still the similiar weaknesses appeared here: mobil its and long range committed threats

[@RocketPropelledMexican]

Conde did his multitasking well in this battle wow Can't imagine synchronizing all of that while leading a cavalry charge around the back

[@TheFiresloth]

One of the great strength of the French at the time were the chevau-légers, light cavalry riding across the battlefield to keep good communications between the differents commanders.

[@cptercio]

Everyone: Stands in a line and hopes to not get shot. Spanish: 4:30 what if we just ducked?

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Siempre he pensado lo mismo cuando veo esas formaciones, especialmente las infanterías de línea del XVIII, esperando a ser fusilados por los del otro lado. Sentido común el de los hombres de los Tercios Viejos.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

No, that solution is too simple, we must make it more complicated-- Old German saying! LOL :)

[@RedJohnO22]

Increible!?

[@KilapnF]

@@alejandrop.s.3942 Parece que no eran pocos los que lo hacían, al menos lo leí en un libro de un español (Francisco Nuñez de Pineda) que luchando en el Tercio San Felipe de Austria cae capturado en la batalla de Las Cangrejeras en Chile en 1629. www.bibliotecanacionaldigital.gob.cl/visor/BND:8011 (página 47)

[@podoesljvc]

what a pro gammer move.

[@Cholimao]

Fun fact some years after this battle, occured the Battle of Valenciennes one of the last Greatest military victories of the Tercios under the command of Duke of Enghien more known as Prince de Condé

[@ajog04]

@@olivercromwell432 es que que pavo jajajajajajajaja obsesionado con España, tanto te duele?🤣

Well, we don't have to go that far to see another victory, in fact a year later in November of 1643, the Spanish and Imperial army ended up destroying a French army in the Battle of Tuttlingen.

[@tonyhawk94]

French cavalry stood up to their glorious reputation that dates back to the Frankish era. Louis Condé is amazing. Also Richelieu is one of my favorite French politics, he basically conceived the French modern statist approach later enforced by Louis XIV and after that by Robespierre and Napoléon.

[@Itachi951000]

@@elmascapo6588 If you're talking about the indecisive battle of Freiburg.... Nah... no biggie! lol Condé whooped the Spanish again at the Battle of Lens later anyway (last major battle of the Thirty Years' War).

[@tonyhawk94]

@@justsceptic3085 The war in the Vendée wasn't a Genocide. Unless you show me that the comity of public safety and Robespierre ordered the dissapearance of the people of the region.

[@Gloriaimperial1]

But Spain recovered. After Rocroi 1643, Spain defeated France in Italy (1648), Catalonia (1652) and Belgium (1695). The Spanish empire was 20 times larger than the empire of Louis XIV. Even in Europe: Spain was in the Netherlands until 1713, and in Italy until 1759. The first world empire until 1820. We have the greatest global legacy, because the power of France was strong, but sporadic.

[@jamshaidmushtaq1811]

Conde is one clever young man. And audacious too.

[@Komnenit]

I'd like to see more Spanish battles! Back when Spain dominated the world then the decline in the 17th century, the 18th century colonial renewal and the 19th century loss of Spain's colonial empire in the Spanish American independence wars

[@rataxv20]

We weren't a colony we were the American Spain( that's why it was called Hispaniarum in Latin ) mean Las Españas/The Spains.

[@gml4776]

@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE Dominaba el Sacro Imperio Romano Germánico, El imperio Azteca, Flandes, Holanda, Túnez, Nápoles, Milanezado, Franco condado, Austria, Portugal, Sudamérica, Centroamérica, gran parte de Norteamérica, Con posesiones al rededor de India, China y África, La Familia que tenía el papado eran los Borgia de origen Aragones, Fueron reyes de Inglaterra con Felipe II, Varía veces quedaron a las puertas de París y Londres, un poco de suerte hubiera cambiado la historia, suerte que si concedió Fernando VII a Napoleón y este a Inglaterra

[@rataxv20]

@پیاده نظام خان never a colony, we were american Spain

[@rataxv20]

@پیاده نظام خان never my friend, because we are de conquistadors descendant, and also we had the same rights like the peninsular Spanish and paid the same taxes, even Lima, Quito were with the Mexican capital( the 3 richest cities in the Hispanity) our world worked different from anglo and Arabic countries because we have a different culture and different vision of the world and life.

[@rataxv20]

@پیاده نظام خان I read about it, I'm a mestizo, they had the same rights during the 330 years that we were Spain, the natives could even join the Armada and live free, following by a law of free me.( Left by Isabel de Castilla), you should try to rear Spanish empire in Spanish( and stop reading black legend propaganda, I'm hispanicAmerican, my family fought in the royalist side) I know what is better for us as a nation, same you Arabic/Ismael should do and make 1 country.

[@nikolak4225]

Watching Louis Conde destroy all those units with his cav made me think of how many kills his cav unit/'s would have gotten in a total war battle

[@geniemiki]

They would have gotten all the experience chevrons! But also they woulkd have been exhausted by the second charge and essentienlly useless until rested x)

[@alvarotd2470]

The infantry units located behind the tercios were not Spanish troops, more so "allies" (mostly Italians and some Imperial troops). Once the French cavalry broke through Melo's left flank, these troops decided to flee the battlefield as they saw the battle as lost (leaving only the tercios). It'd be silly to think that the French cavalry would simply plough through 3+ Italian tercios (Ponti, Strozzi and Visconti) unimpeded. On a sidenote, the reason General Beck did not reinforce de Melo was not because he thought the latter was "exaggerating" as this video portrays, but rather because he encountered the fleeing Italian tercios on his way to the battle. These told Beck that the battle was lost. On a second sidenote, the "traitor" that revealed the ambush was a Frenchman serving on the Imperial army. A good video but a terrible description of the battle.

[@wjzav1971]

@@alvarotd2470 I am not surprised by a Frenchmen serving in the Imperial army. Those were not national armies back then. You could expect a lot of different languages and origins in a "German" or "French" army that were by far not all German or French. If you look at the story of Ulrich Bräker, he was a Swiss, who was recruited by a Polish into the Prussian army under Frederick the Great. When Napoleon invaded Russia, he sent a letter to the Russian Commander, demanding that he release all Frenchmen from his army. The response was that Napoleon first releases all the Russians from his. Armies becoming strictly national was a thing of the 19th century, and even then it wasn't carried through all the way. The Germans in World War Two recruited a lot of Easter Europeans for their campaign against Russia, and the French even today retain the Foreign Legion. Especially in the Thirty Years War, the armies were mostly mercenary armies composed of whoever was willing to fight. A recruiting commander wasn't asking where you came from. And a concept of fighting for your fatherland didn't really exist back then.

[@your.dark.lord.]

That is something they don't explain at school. Quite enlightening.

[@guillaumefulconis6500]

Had the exact same tought

[@SpanishDio]

*Tell the Duke of Engien that this is a Spanish Tercio, We'll talk about that capitulation After Death*

[@jean-luchochart6960]

Vous avez été battus.Point barre! Vous n'allez tout de même pas être aussi de mauvaise foi que les anglo-saxons?

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

Tercios were made of Terminators

[@RobbStark_]

Actually, the Germans and the Walloons fled from the battlefield and the Spaniards surrendered, abandoning their flags to the French.

[@lcaalc3897]

@@RobbStark_ nope. After the german and italian Tercios left the battlefield, the two remaining spanish units kept giving battle without chivalry for 4 hours more. At that point, Enghien, who was afraid of giving too much time the spaniards to get reinforcements, offered a "honourable surrender" to both Tercios. However, only the commanded one by Garciez accepted the offer and left the battlefield with the flags up. After another period of several hours, the remaining tercio (Tercio Viejo de Cartagena), accepted a new "honourable surrender" and left as well. These are the results of the last research lines with all french and spanish sources. In the past, it used to be believed that the last tercio remained till death since many disbanded soldiers didn't surrender and ended up being either killed or captured (french sources).

[@RobbStark_]

@@lcaalc3897 That's what I wrote. The Germans and the Walloons fled, then the Spaniards surrendered. I didn't say the Spaniards didn't fight.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

You can mock me, but I think that the Spanish Tercio was the only unit that can be considered heiress of the Roman legion, in terms of organization, effectiveness and success. It may be easy to blame Beck and the traitor, but everybody has to admit Conté was an awesome commander, and a brave man too. He marched forward in inferior numbers against the best (or the most prestigious at least) army by the time being. "There's a superior moment in the Human species: Spain from 1500 to 1700" - Hippolyte Taine.

[@KingsandGenerals]

I don't think it is a laughing matter. Warfare is evolutionary - nothing was created out of nothing

[@bobojr456]

Brave? Awesome? More like young, reckless, and predictable. The Spanish made several mistakes like leaving the narrow passage open, not supporting their right, and got screwed by their traitor.

[@peletsoivre9110]

@@bobojr456 You're salty because you've passed 22 of age and haven't destroyed a spanish army yet.

[@celeridad6972]

@@peletsoivre9110 I'm 22 right now I was thinking "damn, the closest thing I've have done in my life was the time I transported a bunch of ant into another colony (of a different type) and watch the carnage unfold

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

@Great Destroyer "every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes. Spread the word".

[@0ld_Scratch]

España mi natura, Italia mi ventura, Flandes mi sepultura.

[@mlccrl]

Finchè dura fa verdura.

[@djackzdjackz7004]

Shalom, we Dutch merchant win the battle hahaha 🤣

[@Ivan-bk9xs]

@Warren hastings pérdida de miles de riquezas y de hombres excelentes por un trozo de tierra inútil. La avaricia de los H*bsburgo condenó a España a su futura disolución, miseria e irrelevancia.

[@olivercromwell432]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@AgarthaFan]

Crazy, I was just taking interest and reading about this battle just recently due to my increasing fascination of the Spanish tercio and you release this lol

[@juanlulourido548]

sciphynuts Spanish mercenaries were mostly german lmao

[@bypyros1933]

@sciphynuts they weren't mercenaries dude, you are talking about the german mercenaries.

[@elbentos7803]

@sciphynuts I love the Laocoon / Flamininus (reversed) reference...

[@Alorand]

The shifting alliances and battlefield situations of the 30-years war always seemed too confusing to fully grasp. This series is the best detailed summary I could have hoped for.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks! I think, we could have done a better job and will try to have an even more coherent summary in the full video

[@Liquidsback]

You did not expect a Catholic Nation to attack you, eh Hapsburgs. (Laughs in French)

[@Liquidsback]

You read that in a French Accent, admit it.

[@francherogamer5187]

@@Liquidsback OUi

[@rgm96x49]

*HONHONHONHON*

[@bichoorojo]

Actually it was quite common in France, even with Ottoman turks...which were threat of Europe. That said much of french kings.

[@naelaoun3311]

@@bichoorojo Yep, french kings cared about France

[@thibaultletricheur1884]

"Le voyez-vous comme il vole ou à la victoire ou à la mort ?" "Do you see him as he flies to victory or death?" Bossuet about Prince de Condé

[@theradmad2009]

Tell your commander that He is fighting a Spanish Army. There's no such thing as Surrender. Viva España 🇪🇸 desde Rep. Dominicana

[@jvp1286]

@پیاده نظام خان The Spaniards were allowed to retreat with full banners

[@Denis-fj1ky]

Wallenstein: Wins every battle when leading *dies* Emperor: Lets try Nepotism like that never failed the Hapsburgs

[@maffeJS]

Nah he lost at Lutzen even though Adolphus died

[@NARKYCZ]

@@maffeJS I would say that battle had no winners since casualities were similar. Swedes won that battle but killing the king really helped in the next events for Germany. Shame people who hated Albrecht assassinated him :/ Pussies couldnt do it in a fair fight

[@knjazmihailo4953]

This makes sense. I always wondered what happened to the Spanish Tercios and how the French came to be dominant in the Low Countries after the Hundred Year's War. I'm starting to understand the events of Western Europe in the time period of the 3 Musketeers much better now.

[@solaire2904]

please cover this more often, its the best series on the channel

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

[@solaire2904]

@@KingsandGenerals no thank you for all the good work

[@Napoleonheir1805]

PLEASE PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS PERIOD. All of this timeline is just amazing, keep it up!

[@PrismaWueste]

Couldnt wait for this one! Nördlingen my hometown!! 😀 Thanks for the awesome content!

[@pepijnkruiswijk2182]

I love it when the Dutch are finally mentioned in a KG video, love to see more of them.

[@ratorannui]

This Content is amazing covering an era just condensed down to a simple Protestant v Catholics, it is interesting to see the intricacies of such an event and how it was much more complicated than that simple condensing of history.

[@tobago3679]

A great battle with many keys moments and a lot of strategies. Thank you very much.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for watching!

[@alecsis882]

It's been a personal problem to keep on track with everything in my life, but your channel always lighted be up. I even had a period of time in which I considered dropping history as a hobby, either because I felt that it wouldnt help me a lot in doing something in life, or because I felt it was a too difficult hobby, in the way of keeping me busy. A stupid way to think. I know for a fact that close to no one cares for an emotional comment, and this isnt one. I am just saying that the seriousness and the passiom of this project as a whole can really rejoice people, and with that I congratulate you, team of KnG! Edit: in less than half a minute since posting this, the team already gave me a heart. For more than 2 years since I have been watching, you guys truly make us feel appreciated! Thank you!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Emotional health is very important and your emotions are valid. Hopefully, it will get better for you! We will be here making videos, watch them whenever you feel that they make you feel better.

[@alecsis882]

@@KingsandGenerals I feel a bit awkard about it but I didnt knew how to express my gratitude. Since in before I used to outright say every techincal or historical detail you had in your videos which made them apart from anything else at the time, it just became a norm for you, so I just switched on something that I still think is valid.

[@TheFiresloth]

Fun fact : the French still keep De Fontaine's chair at Les Invalides, as a battle prize. Conde said : "If I had not won the day, I'd wish to have his death". Great video as always.

[@Derna1804]

Spanish Tercios: Our squares are unassailable Condé: Laughs in artillery

[@anneonymous4884]

"Duck under this you filthy casual!"

[@jacobinfier9407]

Lmao

[@olivercromwell432]

😂😂😂

[@Gloriaimperial1]

That was in 1643, in Rocroi, when Spain had a simultaneous war against France, England, Protestant Germany, the Netherlands, the Turkish Empire, revolts in Portugal, revolts in Italy, revolts in Catalonia, Sweden, Denmark, Morocco, Berber pirates, the Moor Filipinos, Chinese and Japanese pirates, Mapuches from Chile and Apaches from the Great Plains. Spain won most of those wars and defeated France in Italy (1648), Catalonia (1652), and Belgium (1695). We also lost some battles and wars, of course! Consider that Napoleon only lasted 15 years of war, while Spain had 100 consecutive years of war before Rocroi, and we still had another 70 years of war left until the end of the War of Succession in 1713. In the 18th century we recovered, invading Italy, to defeat Austria in 1734, and defeating the British in the War of Jenkins' Ear 1739-48, in the Spanish blockade of the United Kingdom in 1779-82 or in Argentina and Uruguay 1806-07, so We save our global legacy. But yes, Condé had a bad time, and Napoleon too. Like Hitler with France.

[@CROM-on1bz]

@@Gloriaimperial1 Maybe, but in the end it was Louis XIV who expelled the Habsburgs from Spain and who put his grandson on the throne. Besides, the current dynasty is Bourbon. In addition to recovering part of Spain, Roussillon and all the Spanish armed places in the north of France including Lille.

[@Guisherobest]

Man, this war was so brutal. It gives me the chills

[@TheFiresloth]

Amusingly, Condé later led the Spanish cavalry during the last great victory of their golden age, at Valenciennes.

[@olivercromwell432]

they were not at the golden age in Valenciennes

[@Jaxsta001]

Wow! That was intense. Love the Narrator! Cheers!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks :-)

[@darkravengames9394]

I went to do a personal tour of the 1634 Battlefield of Noerdlingen. Amazingly, you can still barely see the zig-zag lines of the Spanish entrenchments on the hill top referred to in this video. It was a hair raising moment. Like... holy cow. This s&*t really happened right HERE. By the way. Noerdlingen and Donauworth are totally misplaced on the strategic map in this video. Noerdlingen is about 20 kilometers north of the Danube. And Donauworth lies a stone's throw north of it.

[@mowm88]

That whole march of the Spanish Cardinal Infante there is worth studying just on its own. And they got pretty close to Paris later on too.

[@carlosdelsol76]

The paint was made by Ferrer-Dalmau, he makes paintings of spanish warfare and history. I think you guys will enjoy his art. Specially if you are interested in xv to xx century warfare.

[@lillith3159]

Spanish veteran tercio aproach Sweden soldier: Why do i hear boss music?

[@tezcatlipocaone8796]

Burnt fucking line. You prob ripped off this line from someone else.

[@staringgasmask]

@Great Destroyer *economical and social crisis approach*. Spain: aw shit, here we go again

[@lyonvensa]

Which is rather ironic since the Tercio were defeated by the Swedish tactic the first time. Now they learned how to use the power of ducking.

[@rubencuadros7174]

@@lyonvensa When were the Tercios defeated by the Swedes before Nordlingen?

[@davidlopez6703]

@@rubencuadros7174 In Breitenfeld 1631

[@neloth9864]

yes this is my favorite series! also my guy wallenstein dies :(

[@RedJohnO22]

It was Walpole. Woops wrong historical channel. XD

[@astartes2781]

@@Var_ar_Vargen 1634 the Baltic war

[@Pablocarlitosleonel]

Tercios!!! 💪⚔️ 🇮🇹🇪🇸🇬🇷🇵🇹🇻🇦🇲🇹 🇹🇩🇦🇱🇫🇷 Med Pride World Wide o/

[@Arcadius2207]

The last battle of the Spanish tercios, they lost everything but not ther honor and dignity. VIVA ESPAÑA!! Thanks Kings and generals for made this video.

[@Velkan1396]

This wasn't their last battle

[@Velkan1396]

@@ComradeHellas if you add another b to that word "españobobo" You get "spaindumb"

[@Gloriaimperial1]

Rocroi 1643 was not the last battle of the Spanish Tercios. We created another 50 Spanish Tercios until 1700. In fact we beat France in Italy (1648), Catalonia (1652), Valenncienne, France (1659) and Belgium (1695) with the Tercios.

[@greyinglis7570]

'Don't panic amigos the tercio is impenetrable!' - France has captured all cannons 'Where the hell is beck!?'

[@officeandbusiness8056]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RamyABAhmed]

This catastrophic war deserves to be remembered for its devastating and long lasting effects on Europe. I'm really enjoying the narrative of this series. Grateful for the efforts done.

[@jordirex7711]

Oh, I was expecting this for a long time, nice video!

[@kristofferaune213]

Everytime I see there is a new episode on the 30 years war from you guys I drop whatever I'm doing and get the popcorn. Great work on these videos!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Appreciate it :-)

[@Cancoillotteman]

The thirty years war was always rather blurrish to me, thanks for helping me understanding it ! (Also as a Frenchman it is always enjoyable to see a video about a victory rather than one about may 1940 :p )

[@karimm.elsayad9539]

This has probably become one of your very best videos so far.

[@Daruliable]

Great video K&G's, I've really enjoyed this series

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@ktvindicare]

This conflict is crazy, the amount of mainland Europe involved in the fighting encompasses nearly all of the Western Front of both World Wars, AND also has another front in Spain. I know so little about this war period compared to a lot of others so these videos are some of my favorites on youtube right now. Thanks Kings and Generals!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for watching! Simultaneously, the Ottomans are fighting the Safavids, while the Poles are at war with Russia and soon Denmark and Sweden will also start fighting. Sometimes I wonder if the European leaders of the early XX century knew about this conflict.

[@ktvindicare]

And to think we still have the Napoleonic Wars to get through before we even get to the 20th century. Man, to think that Europe can be at peace finally after literally centuries of constant warfare. Something people living there should be thankful for.

[@julianrodriguez6122]

Why am I crying???? Larga vida a los tercios!!!

[@tyuspatterson8829]

One of my favorite series ya’ll produced so far! I hope to see more.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thank you!

[@alexion2001]

Will you cover the War of the Spanish Succession, the aftermath of which saw Britain/England's rise to power and the decline of Spanish and Dutch colonial empires?

[@ericonmarzs]

I second this request

[@enriquepascual8767]

Alexa, spanish Empire continued its expansion, in XVIIIth century 3/4 of what today is USA belonged to Spain even Alaska.

[@celeridad6972]

@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE who hurt you? Many people in this channel speak English as a second language. Speaking Spanish it's like asking us to speak mandarin. España reclamó el continente desde Alaska hasta tierra del fuego, es cierto que no tenían los recursos para establecerse en el área, no se de dónde sacas lo de la inteligencia; se te nota demasiado el odio chaval...

[@zamirroa]

@@jaif7327 yes , you can see spa ish names of streets and towns there founded by Spanish. In fact spa ish excited franciscanos that got i to Spanish territories. We executed you not for being french but heretic

[@SaintJust1214]

The Channel ‘’Field Marshal’’ is making a good series on the war of Spanish Succession

[@JonatasAdoM]

This is amazing. The mods used are so good, you can't even tell it's Napoleon Total War.

[@adammaximus9957]

Awesome video, and an amazing job as always!

[@vampirevore]

this channel deserves 10 times the number of subscribers it currently has

[@KingsandGenerals]

We are grateful for all support we are getting!

[@portugueseeagle8851]

Amazing video! My favourite of the series so far 😁

[@Undecim33]

Thank you!! Exquisite as always 😍🙏

[@Dayo98]

this is how crouching was finally invented in 1634

[@ahmedibrahim769]

Wow , I am so spoiled A 25 MIN video . This must be my reward for being a patron LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH :-)

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

Fun fact: one of the Spanish commanders survived and later founded the city of Albuquerque in New Mexico.

[@nebukat1230]

I'm glad you're covering the Thirty Years War since in my school in Germany we barely talk about it

[@KingsandGenerals]

It is a difficult subject to cover in a curriculum

[@denniscleary7580]

Still can’t wait for the third servile war, Spartacus Baby! 😁👍

[@SamuelHallEngland]

I'M SPARTACUS!!!

[@BeratLjumani]

*Meanwhile in the Ottoman Empire:* *Reads about how The Ottomans are coming off “The Long War” with Austria which sapped their strength, a mad Sultan, a young Sultan, skirmishes with Poland, a war with Persia, and the Janissaries being a bag of dicks.* ...huh well that kills my idea of a joke that the Sultan had a particularly long nap and missed this whole war.

[@bizybliztaverage9414]

Bag of Dick's

[@puneetmishra4726]

It is still hard to believe how on earth did Turks missed this drama.

[@thibaultletricheur1884]

“En matière d’État, il faut tirer profit de toutes choses, et ce qui peut être utile ne doit jamais être méprisé.” "In matters of State, one must take advantage of all things, and what can be useful must never be scorned." “Pour tromper un rival, l'artifice est permis, On peut tout employer contre ses ennemis.” "To deceive a rival, artifice is allowed, we can use everything against his enemies." Cardinal de Richelieu

[@Chat_fouineur]

FINALLY ! Thank you and Vive le Roi !

[@elbentos7803]

A few years later : "Vive la Fronde !"

[@NYCfrankie]

Best channel on KZbin can't wait for you 2 hit 1m subscribers

[@Bloodknok]

Watching these videos alongside of reading a history of the Thirty Years War has helped me see how every battle and participant country or province fitted together. Highlights quite how complex and multi-layered the complex was.

[@Redeemedmed]

Alatriste is a very good film that depicts a war in this period but not the same war , the 80 years war, very good film

[@smartacus88]

You guys heard about the soldier who survived both mustard gas and pepper spray? He's now a seasoned veteran. I'll show myself out.

[@pikestance4219]

Yes, pleas do (slap) 😂

[@DVX_BELLORVM]

As a general comment, I really appreciate how you make the effort to pronounce the names of people and places correctly.

[@Mrkabrat]

And in come the Tercios, right when the spanish elections are happening. Cant catch a breather it seems. Its getting tiring

[@AthelstanofHwicee]

I love this. Thank you so much!!!!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for watching!

[@KHK001]

Great video! as always, n congrats on 900k almost at 1M😀

[@absolutely_armando]

Very interesting series. I admit I didn't know much about the Thirty Years War before I started watching your videos.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Happy to hear that!

[@davidbarderas3386]

Nördlingen. What a great victory of the legendary spanish Tercios!

[@zuryvans4263]

@Вхламинго Not a threat but a very hard country to dominate, the famous napoleon's vietnam

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

What are you talking about. Spain had a massive empire for centuries thereafter and would have multiple wars with UK on the world stage. All your posts show an unnatural aversion to Spain. Do not be so hateful.

[@zamirroa]

@پیاده نظام خان stop having adversion against Spain dude. All countries were great in the pasta why Spain cannot be recognized ?

[@aidabagirova4933]

Great video, KG. I also really like this period of European history. I support you and hope that you will make a lot of videos on the 30 years War, 100 years War, 7 years War. As a wish - perhaps a slightly short video will attract more visitors. I wish you success and waiting for 1 million subscribers!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thank you!

[@leosp6210]

great job! this battle of rocroi is mythical!

[@LocalHeretic-ck1kd]

Great video. I always wondered what was going on during 30 years war after Lutzen. I learned a lot from this video ( as always ). Thank KG.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for watching!

[@azraelbatosi]

We love this period, please make more! Also, maybe you could even make them into longer connected series like the Napoleonic Wars....maybe

[@KingsandGenerals]

Will do!

[@Drroccy97]

By far my favorite series on this channel! Great video

[@juanchetedelapena473]

Please make videos about the myth of invincibility of the spanish tercio like the 80 years war, the miracle of Empel, the siege of Breda or many more battles of the duke of Alba, it would be very interesting and enjoyable

[@PedroLopez-zs4ko]

Han metido una gran victoria española como la de nordlingen en el mismo video que en el de la batalla de rocroi solo para aminorar la importancia de la primera, y llevan poniendo al bando catolico como los malos durante toda la serie de la guerra de los treinta años. Tambien pasaron de largo de la batalla de bailen (solo la mencionaron), de verdad te piensas que van a hacer un video en el que España quede minimamente bien?

[@onlineenglish7065]

Pedro López then don’t watch it! What a moaner!

[@olivercromwell432]

@@PedroLopez-zs4ko 😂😂😂😂😂 what a whinner

[@KriegCommisar]

@@PedroLopez-zs4ko Bro you already got the movie that depicts tercios beating the french in battle. Its a great battle scene and unfortunately the only one i could find from that era personally

[@giantcuttlefish9972]

Commenting to improve viewer engagement. This is a fascenating period so plz keep it up

[@acusticamenteconvusional9936]

The battle of Valenciennes actuallly was another big victory for the tercios 13 years after Rocroi, the true end of the tercios I would say it was the battle of the Dunes with the victory of the combined anglo-french army

[@didacgrima6082]

Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Rocroi fue una victoria moral y una demostración de que el modelo militar español estaba cada vez más desgastado. Aquí entró en juego la implacable propaganda de una Francia cada vez más hegemónica, pero que aún tardaría algunos años más en lograr desplazar definitivamente a la Monarquía Hispánica como primera potencia europea.

[@xenotypos]

Let's say it was the first step. And don't forget that the English were kind of "on both sides" during the battle of the Dunes, though they represented the minority for both armies and were more numerous on the french side.

[@Itachi951000]

"combined anglo-french army" LOL From my experience on the internet, the Spanish turned out to be a lot more nationalistic than I expected... The battle of the Dunes was basically French (majority) and English (minority) vs Spaniards (majority) and English (minority)... That's not what your comment sounds like at all, more like "The French and English ganged up on us" which is kind of comical. The Spanish Tercios were badasses but you still had the Army of Flanders, Italians and even Germans fighting on your side for much of the 16th and 17th centuries, no?!

[@su_morenito_1948]

Florian A. It was anglo French alliance though?

[@joaquinandreu8530]

2 corrections: 1) The Army was not fully Spanish. There were German and Italian units that fled the battlefield. 2) The deserter was a frenchman.

[@primevaltimes]

I think the Great Northern War would be a fitting replacement for this series.

[@KingsandGenerals]

I agree, it is on our list!

Excellent explanation of the context of the Thirty Years' War after the death of Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden and a magnificent summary of the Battle of Nördlingen in 1634 (3:17), but with respect to the Battle of Rocroi itself, the description was very poor, it shows things that most of the historical essays I have read do not state; I will clarify the following issues: _ The Tercios were not a tactical combat formation (16:11), but a logistical, organizational and strategic entity (as would be a Swedish Brigade), the true tactical combat unit were the 10 or 15 autonomous companies that formed it and that functioned like the Dutch battalions 5:16 (which varied in number of members depending on the Ordinances of each decade and that grouped a pre-established number of firearms and pikemen combined; so they were constantly evolving, adapting to the new tactics of the moment, an example of this is that their last Ordinance before Rocroi was in the year 1632, where 60% of the Tercios were already confirmed by muskets), which were grouped in different ways depending on the situation (sometimes they were grouped in a huge combat regiment like in Rocroi 16:32, other times they were subdivided into several small battalions or functioned in loose companies like in Nördlingen 4:00), with the only exception that they always kept the sleeves of musketeers or arquebusiers separate from the main body of pikemen (to have more flexibility and maneuverability, which was the true characteristic of the Tercios) and the "formation" that everyone takes as that of the Tercios, is the one they used only defensively. _ The French battalions in Rocroi's time did not fight in line formations yet 16:14 (which was what the Swedes used in their brigades, it would not be until the last years of the Franco-Spanish war that the line formation would be adopted), but in a mixed formation that was halfway between the Tercio due to the similar number of troops it had and the Dutch Battalions due to the disposition of the troops; added to the fact that at that time they used tactics very similar to those used by the Spanish after the Ordinance of 1632, so the difference in military innovation was not as exaggerated as you mention and the infantry line formations also used pikemen (although in the representation of the units here, only the pikemen are given to the Spanish Tercios). _ The Hispanic Empire was made up of several nations, so their armies were not only made up of Spanish Tercios (which were the most veteran), they also had Italian Tercios (which came from the Spanish territories of Italy), Walloon and German Regiments (who were imitations of the Spanish Tercios); there were also exiled Irish, Portuguese, English and Scottish Catholics, Burgundians, some mestizos from America, etc. So in this battle the first line was the only one formed by Spaniards (16:35), the other two were made up of Italians, Germans and Walloons 16:37. _ In the battle of Rocroi, the infantry lines of the Spanish army never charged towards the French line (18:35 and 20:54), they were fighting on the defensive (the most important thing was not to risk their forces in vain) and the only ones who attacked were the cavalry squadrons of the Spanish right flank as you show in the video (17:50) and the advance of arquebusiers that was in the forest (16:49). One of the reasons for the defeat was precisely that De Melo did not take advantage of the defeat of the cavalry of the French left flank, because if he had done so, French morale would have collapsed due to the attack between the center and the flank. _ The Prince Conde reorganized his cavalry and charged against the disorganized Spanish cavalry on the French flank, then surrounded and crushed the cavalry on the Spanish left flank (18:56), which he took advantage of to charge against the last two lines formed by Italians, Walloons and Germans (20:15), who after receiving damage from the charges, almost entirely retreated from the battlefield (they were not annihilated as you describe in the video, they just returned in a disorderly manner to the Spanish Netherlands, although with many casualties). _ The last phase of the battle was the final resistance of the Spanish Tercios (22:43), who endured several infantry and cavalry charges, in addition to cannon fire, until due to losses they began to join together until there were two large infantry squadrons. At that time the Prince Conde sent emissaries to ask for surrender, the Spanish refused; Then they attacked several times (23:45), until the Prince asked for a truce again, letting them retreat with weapons and flags, preserving their honour (as was done with the surrender of resistant strongholds), with that 1 of the 2 squares retreated, which held out a little longer until accepting the retreat that the French offered them, leaving the battlefield in order and with all their flags displayed (24:08), with the condition that instead of returning to Flanders, they would be escorted to the Iberian Peninsula (they were not annihilated either). It must be said in conclusion that Rocroi was not at all the end of the Tercios as is wrongly said (24:30), the army of Flanders was not destroyed after the battle: the Italian, German and Walloon Tercios fled and later reorganized; While of the approximately 6,000 Spaniards who made up the Tercios who appeared on the front line of battle, there remained after 4,480 soldiers who months later had arrived in Spanish territory (as the Prince Count demanded of them), that is, they only lost less than 34%, between wounded, prisoners and dead (24:00), of which the majority returned the following year by ship and participated in the defeat that the Spanish and Imperial army inflicted on the French in the Battle of Tuttlingen in November of the year 1643. The greatest proof that this battle was not as decisive as it is painted, is that the war between the French and the Spanish lasted many more years, transcending the end of the Thirty Years' War, in which there was no clear winner until the final years, when now the "Halo of Invincibility" of the Tercios was destroyed in the enormous defeat they suffered against the combined Anglo-French army in the Battle of the Dunes of 1658 (that is here, where the Tercios finally cease to be feared and with it, Spanish hegemony in Europe goes to the invincible France of Louis XIV until the end of the 17th century).

For those interested in learning about the historians I use as sources for my commentary, here they are (although unfortunately most of them are only available in Spanish, which is my original language, and in Italian, but you can find some of their essays in English): _ As a basis for understanding the updated information on the functioning of the Tercios, military ordinances, recruitment and their status as a multinational army, I read historians such as: Eduardo Mesa Gallego, Davide Maffi, René Quatrefages, Julio Albi de la Cuesta, Hugo Vázques Bravo, Antonio José Rodriguez Hernández and Luis Ribot. _ The description of the situation of the Franco-Spanish War in an objective manner until the year 1643, the supposed French military reforms of Richelieu, the revolts caused by that war, I read it from: Fabian Motcher, Davide Maffi, Jonathan I. Israel and José Javier Ruiz Ibañez; on the ignored battle of Honnecourt in 1642 (which contradicts the theories of the declining Spanish military capacity compared to the French) I read it from Eduardo Mesa Gallego, I read the battle of Rocroi objectively described by Julio Albi de la Cuesta; Finally, about the end of the war, the decline of the Spanish military machinery and the efforts of the reign of Charles II of Habsburg (son of Philip IV), I read it by Davide Maffi, Antonio Espino López and Aitor Diaz Paredes.

[@rocekth]

"Baner who had proclaimed liberation for the Bohemians burned their properties in a devestating scorched earth campaign." Lmao

25 minutes of joy :D Thank you for all your work, seeing the notification for a new video always brings a smile on my face! And when it comes to the Greco-roman wars, the Crusades and especially the Thirty Years' war, the smile turns to enthusiastic giggling! I'm always ecstatic to see you cover "lesser known" conflicts in details and I hope you'll be able to cover the ones you intend to do :D

[@davidcg5641]

en mas de 100 años con los tercios y se hace famosa casi la unica batalla perdida..

[@PedroLopez-zs4ko]

@@j.d.5626 Ya ves, le pongo en los comentarios que la batalla de nordlingen se merecia su propio video por suponer el final de la etapa de la intervención sueca y que no tenia por que haber avanzado 9 años a toda hostia para llegar a una derrota española, y el tipo va y se burla de mi diciendo que añada esto a la leyenda negra. Ya tuvieron que escocerles aquellos 200 años para que intenten borrarlos de la historia.

[@fcalvaresi]

When your defeats are more famous than your victories, it is a proof of your might, because it means that your defeats are major and not casual events. The most famous battles of the Romans legions are their defeats : Cannae, Teutoburg, etc. Same for the French knights in the Middle-Ages : Agincourt, Nicopolis, etc.

[@alvarotd2470]

@@PedroLopez-zs4ko vaya inocencia la tuya, esperando que un ingles nos de cualquier tipo de merito. si en la escuela les enseñan que hasta llegaron ellos nadie navegaba los oceanos.

[@xLeyendd]

​@@fcalvaresi The fact is that in this video of Rocroi, it would have been good if he previously taught the myth of invecility of tercios, the video had to have been whole of Nördlingen since it ended one of the stages, and not of Rocroi that supposed the begining of the end"of the myth of the Spanish tercios this battle should be secondary here (btw im agree with u)

[@Macorian]

@@j.d.5626 Es la retórica un poco aburrida de este tipo de canal... no era "un mito"... solo un hecho que fueron muy efectivos los tercios. Claro que hubo otros desarollos que finalmente resultaron en un cambio de táctica. El imperio español tenía otros probelmas... financieros, piratas...

[@roddeazevedo]

Amusingly, Spanish General Francisco de Melo was Portuguese, born in Philippine Portugal.

[@brokenbridge6316]

This was an impressive battle for the French to win. My compliments to those who made this video. it was a good one.

[@Gigas0101]

It's been so long, I still recognize the Empire: Total War music. Thank you for that, and for further indulging my love for European military history with this video!

[@rasmuspedersen418]

We need to see more 30 years war content and generally just more Pike and Shot warfare. Love this time period.

[@KingsandGenerals]

There will be more!

[@leondosendepp585]

This time period is so chaotic und thus even more facinating, nice video👍