Vanadium Metal from Thermite

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Ok so the frame rate issue is a render error, sorry about that. Was hoping i'd be able to fix it today, but you can't do anything to help that out on a Uploaded youtube video, and I don't want to take it down and re-upload. Here's a smooth, normal version of the video you can watch, if the issue is too annoying for you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/noqXp4p6ZciMosk

[@ronaldwhittaker6327]

​@Marc Jackson that's nothing we poked japan with the biggest sticks we had in the bag until they fought back , why does shit like that happen? because America is gullible and the satanic banker cabal loves war that's why that happens . and real information runs at a premium and it cost blood as a rule because death cult satanist are running shit. like the wizard from Oz. not bull shit facts. so your point is? blood is their wage because of their belief in a boogie man that grants them what ever they want. that runs all the way back to predated written history. you gonna solve the problem all by your self ? i've been at people for the cause most of my adult life, let "me" inform you. i've had very little effect, and now that censorship has been normalized here in the states good luck with that, who the fuck you think is running youtube now? everybody and i mean everybody with a public face has a handler behind the scenes. and the powers that be are not interested in the truth unless it serves them. but you can be sure they will put their cant on it. fine tuning the lean.

[@ronaldwhittaker6327]

cool reaction bubby, i'm surprised how quickly the glass broke very little delay.

[@spiderdude2099]

Nicholas Brown rubies are just aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is made all the time in thermite reactions, but it will never produce large crystals that would be worth anything. Sorry, no quick ruby making machine here

[@kamilabiaek8174]

Vu

[@gydalf9490]

0:36 - "Isolating cat shit from cat litter"

[@insertyourchannelnamehere8018]

true chemistry right 'ere mate

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

What's with the frame rate here?

[@TheGayestPersononYouTube]

Is bullying yourself from a different channel considered harassment or self-harm?

[@mortlet5180]

Yeah, I just wanted to bitch about it... Maybe your camera was skipping frames because of the heat? I know some do, but I haven't seen it happen for quite some time (unless you count people trying to shoot videos with their phones...)

[@covvardice8296]

right? what a fuckin idiot

[@Teth47]

@@mortlet5180 I'm pretty sure 40C is actually outside the operating range of most consumer electronics, and it was out in the sun, filming thermite. Kind of a worst-case scenario.

[@mortlet5180]

@@Teth47 I don't think that camera was the issue though... I don't know what he uses to film when just walking around and pointing at things, but that is the one which I think made his editing software decide on a 'lowest common denominator' framerate. As an electrical engineer myself, you might hear people say "nah, 40C is fine as the electronic chips are specc'd to operate up to 85C". While this is technically partially true (most consumer devices will use chips with the 'standard' max temp of 85C), the absolute maximum ratings in a datasheet is for the die itself (the physical piece of silicon inside its package) and at 0 power dissipation (most devices are derated to 0W dissipation at their max temp. Derating often begins at 25C already, where their maximum power dissipation is specc'd.). So you're going to start thermal throttling a lot sooner, because at 40C you've already lost 40C-20C/(85C-25C) = 1/3 of the thermal headroom you had at 'room temperature'.

[@declan8577]

"Our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here" Mate you are making a glass hand grenade

[@spazmonkey2131]

I did that once with standard thermite, blew the top off sending half the un burnt fuel in the air, then blew out the bottom which was used, never did find the top, moral of the story, don't use sugar chlorate as an ignition source in an unreinforced container

[@uint16_t]

How about filling that pot with sand, and partially cover the glass bottle?

[@vikramkrishnan6414]

@Dr. M. H. One, two, five

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

One brazilian channel tried the tiktok's matches in a bottle reaction. It went very very wrong, the bottle chain reacted way faster than it should and blew glass shards over the whole crew. They got fine after healthcare, but that was some heavy handled experiment, terrible way to end a year that was

[@spiderdude2099]

I would recommend for any thermite reactions to use terra cotta pottery containers. They can withstand thousands of degrees and are pretty cheap.

[@MultiPureEnergy]

That’s what my chem teacher used, it worked pretty well

[@shotintel]

LOL, I just made a suggestion to the same, then read this. Absolutely agree. 👍

[@4984Snake]

@@shotintel or mabe a crucible

[@RalfStephan]

Yeah the glass was a bad decision. Even metal would have been better.

[@philipm3173]

Was gonna say the same thing

[@Felixkeeg]

Goddamnit Marie, they're minerals!

[@chaos-ivy]

it's subtle, but nevertheless great :)

[@ataphelicopter5734]

I hate that I know exactly what this quote is from... ._.

[@SG-bp4lg]

1080p 13 frames per second. I like this new format.

[@guythat779]

"They're minerals" Breaking bad vibes

[@odd2354]

"It's not yellow, it's orange"

[@piranha031091]

"It's not pink, it's light-ish red!" -Donut

[@exitiokaoset2319]

piranha031091 that’s an old reference, but a good one

[@thevalorousdong7675]

Your pfp has a fuckin yellow flower. Traitors will be shot in the back

[@etelmo]

Sounds like a good reaction to do on a day with a total fire ban :)

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

There's months of total fireban, I gotta live my life some days!

[@Randomfelladisiur]

I like the 20 frames per second

[@RubenKemp]

Cinematic

[@littleh4xx0r]

For better yield you might use clay flower pots with holes in the bottom, covered with aluminium foil and fitting clay lids to set the reaction of in, and some other ceramic to catch the products. That's how my chemistry teacher made a really solid iron nugget once.

[@ryancrist9565]

I love the hierarchy of flammables that you have to use: a flint (or an electric spark) to light a lighter to light a sparkler to light magnesium to light the thermite.

[@p1nkfreud]

In case you didn't know, they put some kind of weird polish on aluminum foil in the US, you have to burn it off to form the oxide and then convert it back in a kiln

[@harrysheppard3745]

3:59 u be hank from breaking bad

[@harrysheppard3745]

@@bobbish1618 chears mate

[@lordchickenhawk]

With the vanadium being fairly dense you could perhaps smash all the glass/ceramic/slag up fine and then pan it... you might get any aluminium bits to go out with the other waste

[@thepostman69]

Thermite video on my birthday? You're officially my favorite Aussie!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Happy Birthday!!

[@fpsvoltage3005]

"sorry if i look sweaty" bro australia is on fire right now. being sweaty is nothing

[@tomlynx8090]

The rockhound in me flinched watching you take a hammer to that beautiful chunk of flourite... The pyro in me reached for the popcorn.

[@AussieChemist]

dammn finally caught tom's video on time this time

[@kriegguardsman9117]

Aussie Chemist Seriously! This caught me off guard

[@AussieChemist]

@@kriegguardsman9117 no kidding

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

Only because you up real late instead of sleeping

[@Finnnicus]

no sleep until 2020 lads

[@sams6090]

I shredded my grinders blades once when I was trying to grind up some electronic scrap I had burned down. I noticed something was wrong when nothing was moving anymore and then I noticed the blades were completely gone. Was crazy.

[@philipprice9633]

Would nighthawkinlight's starlight recipe work to resist the thermite reaction, contain the slag and be very cheap. You could also mold the starlight to whatever shape you wanted

[@horrorskop]

Your videos always make my day. Thank you

[@eddiedinel4260]

IJWTS the hatred for yellow chemistry is what keeps me coming back to this channel.

[@shotintel]

Use a small and thick terracotta pot with a lid (secured down), and small vents to release pressure but big enough to release most of the sparks. I think you might get better chunks. Also using more of your mixture would probably create a better thermal mass to provide more time for the metal to flow together. Or look into metal casting containment and preform your reaction in an inverted cone shape mold. Just a theory, I'm not an expert, just going off some of the other work I've seen done and their results. Good luck.

[@GNP3WP3W]

using that glass bottle as a thermite reaction vessel is the equivalent of using organolithium reagents in open air - destined to fail

[@Aquatarkus96]

Just have to say I love the music you use on these videos. Very Aphex Twin/Autechre

[@adfaklsdjf]

Yeah I've noticed the same thing... very late 90s IDM/techno

[@adfaklsdjf]

Skam / Rephlex

[@p0ptop]

some of it is Aphex I know for sure.

[@chilleycheesetoes3225]

I’m really curious why you decided to make your aluminum particles bigger to slow down the reaction instead of using a flux like fluorspar or borax?

[@t.8118]

What is this, 2 uploads in the same week?

[@thomasrush2095]

Two uploads, half the framerate!

[@dr.OgataSerizawa]

@@thomasrush2095 That equals 1 upload, right?

[@SuperHoneyOil]

You can wrap minerals in a cloth before hitting them with a hammer, it makes it easier imo

[@igorb4650]

Can't agree more on that , especially usefull if you trying to break something that is shatters as a glass when you don't want a lot of tiny sharp pieces laying all around.

[@Strothy2]

New Years eve is close time to build those firecrackers :D

[@marzyd4488]

yes please lol i would love to see that

[@bangbangliu2146]

Lol not like Australia needs any more fire

[@Strothy2]

@@bangbangliu2146 Come visit Germany, we got beer and Schnitzels :D

[@AguaFluorida]

You probably already know, but vanadium is named for Vanadis, the Norse goddess of beauty, on account of the wide range of lovely colours that vanadium compounds have.

[@jackass315]

if you used a borosilicate boiling tube at like 3/4 the heat you could get it with a blow torch , almost glowing , then dump everything in ,i think that would conatin it better , and would avoid thermal shock if you time it right

[@ruffusgoodman4137]

"From this rock here... They are not rocks, they're minerals!" Hank's meme fits perfectly here

[@Valdagast]

Sounds like he's saying the fluorite will be a "hate sink" that will absorb all the hate released by the reaction.

[@thevalorousdong7675]

That Fluorite felt more like quartz when you were trying to break it lmao, goddamn that was a tough piece

[@johnmcclain3887]

My mom used to make porcelain dolls, making her own molds of plaster, off a master, and then pouring "slip" into the mold, letting it set for a bit, ten fifteen minutes or so, then pouring the slip back in the bottle, letting the mold cure overnight, leaving a doll head, or body, whatever, about 2-3 mm thick hollow part, that would get fired to green, then finished, painted what ever, and hard fired. You could do the same with a bottle, say, as the master, and do the thermite in a ceramic cast mold of it, as was used for thermite in welding rail, and steam boat cranks, on side-wheelers, a century ago. I expect that would contain the blast and allow a good coalescing. I really like thermite, it's so useful.

[@gusbailey68]

5:25 "If I really wanted to do proper science..." I love it!

[@RallyX26]

Ever thought of using ceramic flower pots for termite reactions?

[@michaeldaigle7207]

10:23 modified amen break?

[@TheExplosiveGuy]

Should have preheated the bottle with a torch before igniting that, might not have broken. Vanadium is awesome, and I had no idea you can make thermite from vanadium pentoxide, I used to have a couple ounces of it, wish I had known before I got rid of it. Great video as always. I have a few clusters of dendritic vanadium crystals for my element collection, they are beautiful stuff.

[@among-us-99999]

Is it possible to do a reaction of Uranyl Nitrate and Magnesium in a way that does not contaminate your entire garden with depleted uranium dust?

[@Ornithopter470]

I don't think that's gonna be a good idea, as the uranium would then ignite from the temperature, and that smoke is both highly radioactive, and massively toxic.

[@IPostSwords]

You should make some crucible steel with vanadium - it can forms some very interesting carbide structures depending on concentration.

[@KingHalbatorix]

Watching you hammer the fluorite made me sad, do chemists not know the joy and wonder of the bench vise?

[@somethingelse4424]

He used the test tube clamp as a bench vise.... That really hurt to watch.

[@roberthayward9299]

The clear bit of "fluorite" you used may have been another mineral. Fluorite is relatively soft with a Moh's hardness of exactly 4 (Wonder why!). Additionally fluorite exhibits perfect octahedral cleavage. The stuff you were breaking up seemed quite hard and didn't exhibit the expected cleavage.

[@RedScaledKnight1]

"hopefully the glass contains, at least, the fireball..."

[@remcovanvliet3018]

@7.29 into the video I'm gonna guess "uhuh, yeah, right... That'll happen!"

[@shotintel]

Ya, thin wall glass.... Well at least it didn't get out of the pot.

[@benabusthethird9751]

That nervous laughter before you light it

[@whorcares123]

Huh, turns out a glass bottle isn't the best container for a thermite reaction... who would have guessed?

[@standardaussie]

2:56 Ahh the smell of burning motor brushes being eaten through at lightning pace mixing with the bitter sweet smell of powdered aluminium as it also settles out of your bloodstream in to your brain 😌 takes me back to my own misguided thermite cooking 🍳 And I went Blender Coffee grinder Mortar and pestle (gives great texture for mill) Ball mill (mixed stainless ball size)

[@elnombre91]

If you do this again, it might be worth: 1) Using more heat-resistant glass (as Nile Red did in his latest video) and 2) Pre-heating the glass somewhat, to avoid thermal shock breaking it. An interesting video would be making VOCl3 from your residual V2O5.

[@compaqchemlab]

Instead of a glass bottle, use a well-dried and fired clay pot with a hole at the bottom. Wrap it in addition with a fiberglass mat. this is how the railroad tracks are welded. Greetings from Poland

[@terawattyear]

We got explosions and fire! This is why we come here! I liked the analysis and hypothesizing as to how to slow the reaction. I have tried to do the same for manganese because it reaches and exceeds the Mn boiling point in a Mn thermite reaction.

[@comet1062]

Extractions and Ire: [Breaks out a hunk of fluorite] Every Astronomer watching: NOOOO. Don’t destroy that in a fire!!! Melt it and forge pretty lensesssssss.

[@amk6991]

Why would you do this in a glass bottle????

[@Sleepy_zzzzz]

2019 was a much better year than I thought at the time.

[@uncle_thulhu]

Tom, I know in this case you're after a coarse grind, but if you do want to powderise your solids, remember that old YT channel, Will it Blend? I don't think it's active any more, but it's still around. I have seen one of those things get a red-hot nickel ball in it, and the nickel came out of it WAY worse. Blender wasn't damaged at all! Since a blender has twice the blades of a coffee grinder, plus they're razor sharp and nigh-indestructible, I figure it'd do a better job.

[@fritzdow4819]

7:40 what's about the pull out reference on the board

[@squashiod123]

As he’s pouring an EXPLOSIVE into a glass bottle: “We’ll give it a shot, why not?”

[@spuhgeddy2971]

It’s like a really good stop motion

[@Dervitox]

A big foking hole coming rigth now

[@giffkeplen2951]

I bought a rock tumbler for aluminum powder and use it as a ball mill. I wish I could buy it, but I'm Canadian, so no dice. The fun part is when you open it and if it's ground for too long it all oxidizes at once, causing it to melt, then burst into flame (which only happened once).

[@SPECIESUNKN0WN]

I have no idea how I ended up on your channel, and I have no chemistry background (been a solid 8 years since grade 12 chemistry), but I enjoy the shit out of your vids, my dude. Keep blowing shit up and I'll keep watching.

[@bromisovalum8417]

Ever considered making Raney nickel through a thermite reaction? Apparently it is possible and iirc it is mentioned in one of the early Raney patents but no details are given. I reckon you need a NiO/Al mixture and add more Al so the resulting product will be close to a @ NiAl alloy.

[@tomstone9430]

Pro tip after you finish grinding your aluminum foil that your weed came in empty it and stick the weed in and you can grind up your weed to make the thermite reaction so much more exciting Added bonus the reaction will take ages if you smoke the weed before setting it up

[@MegaEmmanuel09]

7:00 The world's loudest blunt

[@ahabsbane]

Yes I prefer to getting my aluminum without sticking my finger near a blade 1 of death whilst plqugged in!😆

[@Linus-nq2op]

I think they cant turn on when the lid isnt closed.

[@ronaldwhittaker6327]

looked like a F.A.A. crash seen investigation. 10:30

[@Boomchacle]

time to show this video some love!

[@ephjaymusic]

Hey hey!!!!!! Thank you so much!!!! 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻

[@WTB1327]

Always love your content bro, it’s me Velzee from SM and Discord. We should catch up soon!

[@gusbailey68]

Would there be any efficacy to seating the reagent mixture in a silica(te) "nest"? basically a pail full of sand with a core of thermite?

[@ricer7214]

1:30 how did you say aluminum is pronounced?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Theres no I in alumnum

[@j_sum1]

Nice to see the V2O5 put to good use. The Gayest Person on KZbin has some nice thermite videos including obtaining a large nugget of vanadium. He shows flux calculations too. Looking forward to VCl3. I am totally with you on the chlorine chemistry. (And I am the person who has been watching the "isolating vanadium" video. Sorry for spoiling the stats.)

[@vivimannequin]

By gayest person do you mean James Charles? I didn't think he'd ever be that kind of person

[@hinz1]

Tiny flower pot or tea cup instead of bottle for containment? Ceramics are much more temp shock resistant than glass, especially if dried before use, so that no moisture is trapped in it, that becomes steam and cracks it from the inside.

[@sparrow082]

Use a crucabl with a long steal pipe for a smoke stack. The pipe should fit just in side the mouth of the crucabl, you want everything to coalesce at the bottom and not on the rim of the crucabl. The pipe should be at least 1 to 1.5 meters long, no shorter then 1 meter. Place a coffee filter on top of the thermite and place 10 cm of loose sand on top of the filter. The filter stops the sand and thermite from mixing until the last possible moment, use a blowtorch on the side of the crucabl to ignite the thermite. I don't know if it would stuff up the reaction but I would use a shit ton of borax for flux.

[@AguaFluorida]

9:45 "Hm?" followed by a classic E&I lol moment :D

[@Cdubb4728]

Watched an entire 4 minute ad so hopefully you can get a little bit of ad rev from it. Keep it up man, love your vids.

[@felpshehe]

Glass bottle full of thermite? SIGN ME UP

[@Freizeitflugsphaere]

Using that glass bottle kinda hurts... Great video though 👍🏼

[@ChEMIKNEPSPP]

Yes

[@jdgonzo1982]

that was cool man...nice explosion!! totally worth the risk :)

[@Bert2368]

I've got a couple of pounds of Vanadium pentoxide on hand. It's an ingredient in a universal hot prime for Pyrotechnic stars, along with some Aluminum powder, Potassium perchlorate, Potassium nitrate, diatomaceous earth, wood flour, red gum, guar gum and gum arabic. A decomposition catalyst for the perchlorate plus undergoes a thermitic reaction with the Auminum. Good stuff, works better than Iron oxides.

[@Rektumresizer]

I love you and your music papi

[@DJignyte]

Damn, you poor bastard. The heats been nuts!

[@Hippownage]

4:00 Jesus Christ, Marie...

[@scrambledmandible]

10:00 not entirely sure what you expected

[@comrade1158]

I’m here watching a thermite video, drinking a Jack and Coke, trying to forget about organic chemistry

[@jannegrey]

You technical languages is superb. "Triangular bit" - you sir remind me of myself :D

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Real technical, thank you

[@piranha031091]

7:06 : "I'm very unsure if this is a good idea, but our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here" I think I let out an audible "no it's not!" ^^ Glass was obviously going to instantly shatter and spread the slag around. A flowerpot or metal bucket filled with fine sand would have been a much better choice: it's the only thing that won't melt or shatter, and it's also a good thermal insulator. You can add some clay with just the right amount of moisture to it to make a mixture called "green sand", commonly used in metal casting. That could be easily given a funnel shape, to allow the molten vanadium to pool at the bottom. (Otherwise, maybe just regular sand poured on the edges of the pot would naturally give you a wide 112° funnel shape, with its a 34° angle of repose. Loose sand mixing with the thermite could be an issue though.)

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Finding terracotta pots here has honestly been a challenge. I think the clay idea is a real good one. I was expecting the thermite to be much slower, given the terrible aluminium quality. If it was an iron oxide thermite, I don't think it would have even burned. But yes, the violence of the glass shattering really did ruin this, which is a shame

[@badacktor]

something about a good ol’ mate saying “nugget” just sends me…

[@imchris5000]

next time you do this cast the bottom of the glass bottle in plaster so when the glass breaks the metal still stays concentrated

[@bhutwheyttherismor86]

Lit bro. What all are you going to do with it now?

[@killazaawl]

here we are enjoying the little things. like watching a sweaty australian make a joke about wildfires while making ghetto chemistry.

[@Darkhunter218]

Bro can I buy you a pair of forceps? Lol

[@DaftFader]

New title for ya ... "Scientist struggles to break a rock for fifteen minutes"

[@iNerdier]

Don't be on fire mate.

[@mitchelljacky1617]

Graphite blocks for containment, my man.

[@ironmonkey1512]

Have you tried thermite with copper or another metal that will give up it's oxygen easily? Should be hotter than with FEO

[@PaddyOutback]

I like when chemistry involves hitting shit with a hammer.

[@somethingelse4424]

What if you rolled it up into a foil ball with a wick, and then packed it into a ball of clay/earth, and then buried it in a shallow hole with a little ventilation. Or poked a hole on the ground and shoved the foil into it? I imagine you would contain any spatter and could just rinse it all out of a single shovel full of dirt through a wire screen.