Extreme Ball Position Drill for Perfect Ball Striking!

Without a doubt, he number one deficiency in amateur golfers is their inability to control the low-point of their swing. Specifically, they struggle to get the bottom of their swing to bottom out far enough forwards, resulting in fat shots, thin shots, and topping the ball.
So how can you practice in a way that trains this skill and improves your ball striking?
First, you need to understand WHAT the factors are that control low-point. There are 3 main factors.
1. Location of weight
2. Control of swing radius
3. Swing direction
This drill will help to improve ALL THREE of these factors and will teach you the necessary feeling to deliver the club to the ball first, and the ground second for perfect ball striking and insane compression.
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[@colwalker3220]

Rob, I've watched almost every video you've made(that's a lot!) and I think this one could be the very best! Not only a great subject but your entire presentational skills are absolutely spot on. Well done! 👍👏👏👏

[@davidlim5]

Good lesson. Try to keep your clip to just 5MINUTES. Tqtq

[@gregdoniger1137]

Best instructor on KZbin

[@steveregotti8542]

Very good teaching thanks again!!!!

[@carlor.s.4742]

Thanks Rob! This looks like a good drill to start winter practise with.

[@rteach1]

Terrific, as always.

[@rochellestanley9532]

Great tip..

[@richardoxley8556]

Great video! Now I need to get the divot board

[@jackstrange3676]

Really good! First time I've watched any of your videos.

[@SteveSmith-zz4ih]

cheers, good info

[@petersampson4635]

Very interesting indeed. 👍

[@garyvale8347]

Rob, this drill is exactly what I need to work on.... I tend to thin the ball during my round, way too often............thanks for sharing your knowledge .........

[@jeffdillon3930]

Thanks Rob!! Truly the best presentation I’ve ever seen!! I have tools and knowledge now to practice this skill effectively!!!

[@shanebotha257]

Excellent explanation on everything. Well done 👍

[@jmm1817]

This is such a great drill I tried it at the range today just a couple and then went back to my normal ball position and it really helped out a lot thanks for sharing

[@daviddreibelbis1298]

Thanks!

[@markbandy2066]

Man love your videos Rob.

[@music7169]

I have struggled with taking the divot after the ball. After watching your video I am anxious to go and try it out. I will keep you posted on my results. Thanks

[@bedeashby6323]

This could be the most transformational lesson apart from heads up putting I’ve seen. Tried the ball forward, tees under the arms and could not believe the consistency of strike and accuracy😳. This begs the question - should you position the ball in this manner every time on the course for your irons and woods?

[@juanhunglow2220]

Tried this out on the range yesterday. Couldn’t hit a bad shot. It really works.

[@kitinghans]

thank you for this great drill, works for me better then with the ball in the middle( topping the ball) now longer and straighter.Amazing.

[@carlosfreitasdasilva9150]

Rob, Thanks for this great video. I will with the board, but with the ball further forward I suspect that my balls will go straight to the left. Moreover, I usually tend to do straight pulls. I feel that perhaps in the down swing my trail(right) shoulder should go further down and forward. Regards, Carlos

[@WeimaranersAreTheBest]

Love your vids …. Do u have vids talking about loose wrists? And hinge? Thanks

[@JDDD33]

Great video !! Quick question, if you can train yourself to cleanly hit the ball 5inches further in front (in line with your left foot) whilst still also taking a divot in front of the ball, what would be the advantage of then bringing the ball back to being in the centre of your stance again ? (And re-training your brain again)? Thankyou. Best video on youTube

[@stanwilson1189]

Thanks, Rob how about the driver swing ?

[@annelliott8184]

Hi, will this work with my driver? as I am struggling with my driving, thankyou for your videos very informative.Cheers Ann

[@MrSurfinglife111]

I watched this video a while ago but only recently it clicked that the wider someone's shoulders are, the more forward the ball position will be in relation to the feet. I now tee up my driver of my left big toe and for all other clubs the ball is somewhere between left instep and just inside of the left heel. I've heard comments that it looks so far forward but it feels comfortable and, most importantly, works (when everything else falls into place).

[@ednayokum8588]

Started doing this drill and from the most forward position I am getting really good ball contact. When I move the ball back to my normal position I still was getting the occasional poor contact. Obviously, will keep working. I expect to continue to get better results with more practice.

[@paulgerton2573]

Rob, new to your channel! So when playing, can I do this and set up with the ball way forward? Or is the goal to eventually get it more centered?

[@seniorswalkingthecamino]

I was going to spend the next few hours watching S&T videos now after this I'm off to the range ! Superb videos Rob, re-defining the golf swing through S&T data is to me the Holy Grail...I'm drinking the koolaid!

[@stevestewart240]

Interesting!

[@DrKango]

Thanks for great tips. I have noticed your golf tips are unconventional but really effective. I have a question regarding this video, what do you recommend ? shall I start placing ball forward on toe line, or it is just a drill to get the feel of striking the ball first? Regards

[@lindsayk3599]

Used the hit hard and stop quick for 15 balls and then worked on this drill. Hit about 80% solid and after ball. Was using a top tracer outside and was struck how accurate each shot was, the distance wasn't always consistent but I'm confident that will come with more practice. Thanks for this I may use this in a game when I need an accurate shot :)

[@patriotscientific]

i Agree with Col Walker, never heard it explained so clearly. Singapore is soo far away.

[@oscar787]

i also used used the ulnar thing you had on one of tubey videos and i was the the straighter then ever

[@es9526]

9:51 Excellent!

[@darylhoskins5696]

Rob I just figured out my best ball position is on front foot for most of my clubs.

[@ajmic2]

I use this one on and off, I hit it better off the front toe! I assume I'm really getting the weight forward. I try and feel my practice swing brushes the ground off the toe, works well

[@mattfletcher2084]

Could you do a video on toe strikes....I just can't shake the toe strikes and there really isn't any good video/info on toe strike correction

[@scottkalahiki5967]

Hey Rob, Is it possible to hit a fade with this ball position and or with this wrench system?

[@dukeesq]

Thank you, Rob! Compression has always been a mystery to me when there really is no need for it. This drill has helped tremendously! Would you recommend the same distance of 4 to 5 golf balls with your drill for where you want the low point with regards to hybrids? With irons, what if I tee up the ball slightly on the tee box, am I still looking at the same distance for a low point as well? Thanks again!

[@dukeesq]

@@golftecasia Cheers, Rob. Appreciate you replying back.

[@pilquin]

This is a great drill . The question I have is why not play the ball off the front foot all of the time when playing golf but setup in the middle ? would that work?

[@cluman1]

This is a great drill as I can attest to it. To my fellow golfers, start doing drills. I've seen it so many times at the range, golfers hitting balls with very little effectiveness because they have no clue on how to improve (I was guilty of this too). It wasn't until I started doing drills (specifically ball striking drills) that my game improved dramatically. The trick is you have to stick with it. You will hit ugly shots but it's no better then the bad shots you're hitting now. At first the changes will feel unnatural to most. I've often said a good golf swing is an unorthodox swing. You're changing the biomechanics of what feels natural to you and that's why there's this need to regress to your old swing. Don't! Stick with the drills. You will eventually start seeing results I have 3 drills and this is one of them. For beginners, I would start with the split hand drill. This will help you understand what the swing path should feel like. You have to ingrain this into your motion and repetition is key. The good news is you don't need a range or course to do this. A high ceiling or cut off shaft with a weight on the end will suffice. Also, I now hit balls with the stack and tilt method and I'm playing great golf. The only club I don't hit with this method is my driver. I still use the pivot method for that club. That may change soon but for now I love the way I'm striking the ball with all my clubs.

[@sschjager]

I want to thank you for amazing educational content. Im going to a club fitting tomorrow and the pro tries to convince me to position the ball centered with the 7 iron. Im worried that the results will be poor if I listen to him.

[@starks1974]

I have the cheaper carpet style from Amazon and the best item I’ve purchased. I start with a wedge doing 1/4 to 1/2 swings. You need to do this! Just doing these little drills have helped tremendously. And RECORD the session to know what went wrong. Rob - for driver would the low point be in the middle of your stance if playing off of the heel?

[@colwalker3220]

Link for amazon product please Brent 🙂

[@russquick7899]

Hi Rob-Need this lesson badly. How can I see a repeat? Stay well-Russ

[@Mav...]

I have tried hitting the ball and making a divot after the ball but it goes super low and I even shank the ball at times. I always try hitting a fraction of an inch before the ball. I don't compress the ball but it does go high. I love hitting the ball high.

[@steveperry1344]

rob, i'm a 13 hdcp. and need work on this.

[@alanpoole6064]

Please send link to the training board

[@seeingbeyond666]

Do you focus on the ball or the original position where the ball started from? Then the opposite focus on the Low Point ahead of the ball not the ball, Yes or No?

[@garywalden5745]

Can I get the mat that you use

[@dry509]

One coach mentioned swinging more left to help with this issue?

[@robertmullins3824]

Great video. I’ve been looking for videos on stack and tilt. Any videos on proper club distance from body? Thank you

[@pamelamartini9030]

I just tried this drill and had a very hard time hitting it solid. Just shows me how inconsistent my contact is. Will continue until I can master. Thanks Rob

[@robertlegendre2752]

So do you play the ball that far forward on the course? Or how do you work on getting the ball nearer the middle of your stance, like normally?

[@robertlegendre2752]

@@golftecasia thanks for getting back. After having the ball 5 inches forward for a number of swings, I then tried today just imagining the ball still forward while having it in the mid-stance position and it worked great. Nice drill.

[@love2flash]

great video, but i am confused when moving the ball back for draw shots, how to control the low point, the instruction says the its the same swing, but the low point has to change each time we move the ball position.

[@OrvinReyes]

LOL why are you trying to shape shots at this point? If you're here on this video you're most likely a beginner who hasn't even mastered low point control... one step at a time buddy

[@oscar787]

i played 9 holes at my local course and shot 45

[@octaviomaese6088]

i tried this today , very frustrating, whole bucket with only a few good shots, obviously need work on my end , stay with it ??? does it get better ??

[@jimmys7985]

This has helped me but I have also been told it’s helping because it’s allowing my face to get square

[@tobybarker6808]

if the drill works so well, shouldnt we have the ball that far forwards all the time?

[@rickcudmore8156]

TXG had a video with Martin Chuck and he used a technique where he placed the ball opposite the lead toe. Although he was trying to hit a fade stinger but the results looked similar.

[@J1cakester]

I have great trouble hitting behind the ball. I do it in the most critical times. All of my playing partners say , ' move the ball back in your stance' . It doesn't work of course. I've tried moving the ball up front also and still strike the ground . There's got to be something else I'm doing wrong.

[@dry509]

Yes yes yes…this is me!

[@edhaggerty4798]

Great lesson Rob! Do you keep your weight forward through the entire swing? Ed

[@tonebassin2571]

6:45 He mentions the weight forward.

[@gregclark54]

So much content on here. I don’t know where to start.

[@anthonyat2401]

These video could, and should be, one-third the length.

[@brian7333]

Good Pros don't even think about their downpoint much. They just get up to the ball and stripe it working on other things. That's because they're gifted 👈. For us mere mortals however, downpoint is a big deal and just a little practice on it can yield rewarding results!

[@dry509]

Almost every time my low point is behind the ball.

[@flippperboy]

You have no choice to make a divot now. Going to the range tomorrow

[@jeffreylevine4076]

SO why not adjsut your stance/address to the drill? If this drill improves your swing path why not use it?

[@robeveritt]

Moe Norman….

[@kevinbeardsworth3756]

Wtf them divot boards are £100 😂

[@tmacphd7871]

Golftec was the greatest waste of time and money I've ever spent in 30 years of playing golf. What a rip-off!

[@seankenny100]

No S&T player has ever been a major winner. It’s a flawed swing logic. Ruined Aaron Baddeley.

[@tellwilliams4493]

Then why do we see pros during warm-up put the ball behind the divit and divit keeps getting longer and longer and longer as they go through the balls in the bag on the driving range