Extreme Cold Air Intake Testing - How Much HP Gain?

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Haters Garage

Haters Garage

Ай бұрын

I decided to strap a big ole' pipe with an air filter on the end to my 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V, and see how much faster it makes it.

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@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
So people are saying that I should have run a test with the hot-air intake with the hood off, due to the weight savings without the hood. Let's say the hood is 50 lbs, the math says it would help the 0-60 time by 0.10s at most, along with the aerodynamic drag possibly slowing it down a tiny bit. So, we can say that the cold air intake improved the time by 0.47s instead of 0.57s. Also the hot-air intake wouldn't really be a hot-air intake anymore with the hood off, as it would be getting all kinds of fresh air that it wasn't before. There's also the possibility that the long pipe I put on had better resonance, which improved the time instead of the cold air. But that's a test for another day. Thank you for listening to my ted-talk.
@vaibhavbansal8741
@vaibhavbansal8741 Ай бұрын
Maybe it's weight of the hood or off hood make whole engine runs cooler.
@namenomad2088
@namenomad2088 Ай бұрын
100% just the fact that the hood was off which flooded the engine bay with cooler air
@wheniztheend
@wheniztheend Ай бұрын
Still should have done no hood with the hot air intake. Would have taken any uncertainty out the equation.
@alexanderwoolley1623
@alexanderwoolley1623 Ай бұрын
Really loved the video, I'd say your performance was mostly gained from the out of hood design having the filter in a larger volume of air, I've got all my cold air intakes running downstream either from the bonnit or the front bumper, I would look at in the future doing a battery relocation mod either into the boot or even behind the glovebox against the firewall, this is so you can make an air channel from the front bumper directing it toward the filter, not only gaining cooler air, but far more air than just being stashed behind the battery.
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
@@alexanderwoolley1623 I'm planning on moving the filter toward the fender along with a block off plate, and if I don't see the same performance that I did with the stupid intake I may add some hood vents for it.
@kdesikdosi5900
@kdesikdosi5900 Ай бұрын
i love the drawing around the "activate windows" thing
@ghezinho9049
@ghezinho9049 Ай бұрын
Almost didn't noticed it because it was overlapping with my activate windows lmao
@alexanderwoolley1623
@alexanderwoolley1623 Ай бұрын
Thankyou for pointing that out lmao
@BuffMyRadius
@BuffMyRadius Ай бұрын
In 3 episodes the Sentra will have itbs, two separate plenums, and snorkels from Suzuki Samurais.
@hellfiredreadnought4618
@hellfiredreadnought4618 Ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure what the feeling/vibe that this channel gives me, but it reminds me of just some chill friends hanging out and messing around with stuff while tinkering and I love it.
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming Ай бұрын
Reminds me of original Haggard Garage days.
@Zoey_KL
@Zoey_KL Ай бұрын
Braden Carlson before he grew up. Look at his old videos.
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming Ай бұрын
@@Zoey_KL The Steve!
@Zoey_KL
@Zoey_KL Ай бұрын
@@Grimm-Gaming YES :D I got sad when Braden stopped making that type of silly content, and was the only reason I subbed. I'm glad someone else is just doing wack stuff with their own cars now, as soon as I found the crazy exhaust vids I subbed.
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming Ай бұрын
@Zoey_KL yeah. I miss ...stupid car builds. Only reason i watch cleetus still is cause he himself is just so damn entertaining. I can care less about a 3000hp el camino but hes why i watch....
@theslowcrx
@theslowcrx Ай бұрын
BABE LOOK HATERS GARAGE UPLOADED
@jonathanbyrd90
@jonathanbyrd90 Ай бұрын
you're boyfriend doesn't care.
@outdoordaily6463
@outdoordaily6463 Ай бұрын
*sigh* “why don’t you touch me anymore”
@johnm3907
@johnm3907 Ай бұрын
Are you not embarrassed by that comment.
@patato5237
@patato5237 Ай бұрын
thats not a cold air intake, thats a FRIGID intake
@poprawa
@poprawa Ай бұрын
Nope, some dudes are using AC refrigerant loop to cool down intake air. This name is for them
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme Ай бұрын
​@@poprawa Which makes no sense because all compressors shut off at WOT
@smileyguyz
@smileyguyz Ай бұрын
@@Christdeliverme If you're running AC loops to cool down the intake, you probably know how to make the compressor run at WOT
@alexanderwoolley1623
@alexanderwoolley1623 Ай бұрын
​@@poprawathat's technically an exchanger intercooler nothing to do with the intake
@M20AFKS
@M20AFKS 19 күн бұрын
@@poprawa im from canada trust me stock intake with -20c make my all my car faster i call this FROZEN THEY NUTS
@MsGabriel36
@MsGabriel36 Ай бұрын
This channel its what all automotive content should be, no bs, no drama, fun, and being pretty honest, "ok you right, im wrong" isnt a thing we see a lot this days
@dannyloughman
@dannyloughman Ай бұрын
The hood delete made the most power
@AlmondNut
@AlmondNut Ай бұрын
Bro did all that work and *STILL* never Activated Windows
@trulyirrelevant17
@trulyirrelevant17 Ай бұрын
You are definitely one of the car channels of all time I’ll give you that
@IWantMyHortTruck
@IWantMyHortTruck Ай бұрын
omg babe exhaust guy uploafed (activate windows gang)
@admiralnelson4225
@admiralnelson4225 Ай бұрын
Keep it up with the good crackhead energy
@Stona999
@Stona999 Ай бұрын
Get a buddy to do this on his car and you can do an Excalibur style lance battle!!
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
HELL YEAH
@zelashizzz1278
@zelashizzz1278 Ай бұрын
Back in the day (circa early 2000's), I had an older prelude with a legit CAI, was hidden behind the front bumper inches from the ground. The ol butt dyno said it worked great. I ran through a huge puddle once and sucked water into the engine and luckily didn't kill the engine but it was a good reminder to put that bypass valve on that was sitting in the box, lmao
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
Yeah water puddles are the natural predator of the cold air intake
@alexanderwoolley1623
@alexanderwoolley1623 Ай бұрын
​@@HatersGaragekeep your filters freshly waxed and it's less of a problem, I've got my CAI on a 350z and that thing will never go outside in the rain, I don't wanna blow up my VQ
@dumbestoyster
@dumbestoyster Ай бұрын
You can get valves that go in the intake that solves that
@rumgy4573
@rumgy4573 Ай бұрын
Fact or Cap in less than 5 min. love this Channel
@exaltedb
@exaltedb Ай бұрын
finally, the colder air intake
@andrasmolnar3331
@andrasmolnar3331 Ай бұрын
This really made my day, thanks a lot for all the good stuff on this channel
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy it
@802Garage
@802Garage Ай бұрын
I might have tried the hot air with the hood off as well. Sounds strange, but the combo of lost weight and possibly somehow aero improvement could have made a difference. I highly doubt it though. That's a huge improvement. If you do make a proper cold air intake for it, test again!
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
I'd say the aero was worse without the hood, the reduced weight probably did help it some but not half a second worth. I'm definitely going to make a real CAI for it, and I will test with that too
@802Garage
@802Garage Ай бұрын
@@HatersGarage Heck yeah man, awesome stuff!
@haveaniceface7290
@haveaniceface7290 Ай бұрын
Yeah how heavy is the hood?
@CRneu
@CRneu Ай бұрын
I dont think the aero is gonna make any real difference for a 0-60 time above 7 seconds. The thermal difference is likely the key here. The colder air coming in plus the air going over the engine probably allows the engine to run a bit cooler and it's reacting by running a bit harder. When I replaced my radiator with a much more efficient one in my fiesta st i not only saw a few HP improvement but my mpg went up 3mpg as well. Some engines like to run a few degrees cooler.
@802Garage
@802Garage Ай бұрын
@@CRneu Like I said, I highly doubt it, but scientific method means one variable at a time. ;)
@Team-Aerio
@Team-Aerio Ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that listens to eurobeat while I drive.
@huzudra
@huzudra Ай бұрын
Changing the pipe length could also be at play, you may have accidently found a better tuned length and volume for your engine. The intake becomes sort of part of the intake plenum at WOT in a weird way and intake pulses crashing into each others pressure waves do some weird stuff. Results inconclusive, more testing needed. You'll have to cut a hole in the hood and point the filter out with the same coupler it uses under the hood. But real talk, hemholtz resonance tuning in air intakes can yield some actual factual gains.
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
That's possible, when I make the real cold air intake the length of the pipe will be different, the results from that will tell us if it was the length of the pipe
@huzudra
@huzudra Ай бұрын
@@HatersGarage That would be fairly hilarious if you accidentally stumbled on the optimal length of pipe to gain the most power for your engine. Maybe next you'll build some intake manifolds or play with ITB's and runner/trumpet lengths, who knows.
@kotindustrie5584
@kotindustrie5584 Ай бұрын
Love these vids, no bullshit and actually doing those experiments right. Keep it up
@Hoft236
@Hoft236 Ай бұрын
Man, this channel is priceless... keep doing this type of deal, it's friggin awesome
@ianfairbanks1318
@ianfairbanks1318 Ай бұрын
Love these crazy shenanigans. please sir, more!
@rileypaterson7117
@rileypaterson7117 Ай бұрын
I love using the draggy to test my cars ! They definitely are becoming more popular. Glad you have it to test your mods. I love the style of your videos keep it up 😊
@haventcenathing
@haventcenathing Ай бұрын
Greatest automotive channel of all time
@gredausvemiru6236
@gredausvemiru6236 24 күн бұрын
Bro your channel is a glod mine. Funny, straight to the point, side by side comparison between previous projects... You name it. Great stuff
@EGSKillshot
@EGSKillshot Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for you to upload bro.
@KurumaDesigns
@KurumaDesigns Ай бұрын
Another banger upload, makes me want to test this on my e36
@snickerdoooodle
@snickerdoooodle Ай бұрын
The B15 Sentra line was my first car and you're really making me want it back lmao
@wizardman6979
@wizardman6979 10 күн бұрын
This video is amazing cause I literally just got parts to make my own intake, and now I know that a heat shield is something I definitely want haha
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Ай бұрын
With slow, slowish, and average cars I find a 20-80 and/or a 20-120 roll race to be the most satisfying. Really just any 20 roll in a slow to average car is satisfying because you get to start in the only gear that gives you the throwback(first), but at a reasonable about 1/2 to 2/3 the rev limit. IDK if draggy lets you record your own splits or only preset splits, but if it does let you customize the run, I'd be running 20-80s all day on anything at or worse than 15lbs per hp. Also, having the hood off might be worsening the aero drag enough to make a difference, too, so if you move the battery to the opposite corner of the car and make a cold air box in its place that pulls from a ram air bumper scoop, you'll see the best improvement, yet. Especially if you make something to vent hot air out of the engine bay and insulate (either with reflectix or actual insulation of some sort) the CAI box as well.
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
I enjoy launching this car because the 2.5 is so torquey down low, it only needs 2k rpm at launch and still spins the wheels
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Ай бұрын
@@HatersGarage Hey, fair enough. If my 2.3 Ranger wasn't so much of a clunker with all the slop in the GD driveline and suspension, I'd probably feel the same. I really shouldn't have financed this fuckin thing, TBH... I wish my tC didn't blow up... Shit, I wish my Ram from back in the day wasn't a quad cab because I genuinely wouldn't have cared about the economy if that thing were a single cab short bed. And if I did, I'd have swapped it with an OM606 by now.
@Lee01Mr
@Lee01Mr Ай бұрын
Ah another redlining video of the Nissan. What not to like, keep 'm coming
@narancs5
@narancs5 Ай бұрын
Gotta love the PowerPaint presentation.
@Andrey_ny3blpbkoB
@Andrey_ny3blpbkoB Ай бұрын
Yaaa, thnx for vid!! Cheers! ✊ Stupid intake = windy compressor! Waiting next test 🙂 Your Sentra have a fun life in good hands : )
@hufman9807
@hufman9807 Ай бұрын
Should have just checked intake temps with each filter
@gwc_garage
@gwc_garage Ай бұрын
Ayooo thats one heck of a voice, I was not ready, i didnt think my phone speaker could convey that much bass
@lolfungreg6964
@lolfungreg6964 Ай бұрын
Lovin it, as per usual! Maybe as a middle ground, you could have tested the hot air setup, but with a dedicated air duct to it!
@xtbb1369
@xtbb1369 Ай бұрын
Awesome test, you should try a velocity stack with a big honking pod filter next
@vulcanizedanthony145
@vulcanizedanthony145 Ай бұрын
When I had my '02 Celi GTS I had an injen short ram intake on it, I took out one of the side foglight covers and used some 4" drain tile from Menards to pipe it up to the side of the filter. It dropped my intake temps by about 8C while rolling and made the coolest sounds ever. Imo that's the best of both worlds, as long as you're not in stop and go all the time it helps a lot with intake temps, but you also get the lower restriction of having the shorter intake pipe. I never tested 0-60's and I don't think it'd help that way but it definitely had a lot more pick up while it was rolling bc of added airflow and better temps
@ChrisOnez718
@ChrisOnez718 Ай бұрын
love the graphics at the end 😆
@studecker2289
@studecker2289 6 күн бұрын
You're awesome! Thank you.
@chaoticpuppet1
@chaoticpuppet1 Ай бұрын
I just subbed. I also just switched back to my OEM airbox from hot air because squirrels
@FunkMasterWood
@FunkMasterWood Ай бұрын
I cut a hole in the hood of one of my SpecVs, made a brace that moved a small portion of the filter above the hood, then put a Z31 hood scoop over it. I also spaced the hood a couple inches at the hinges. It really seemed to help with getting cooler air to the intake.
@benedictroberts678
@benedictroberts678 Ай бұрын
It's probable that there's the weight loss of the bonnet being off in those numbers too, you can get pretty good air flow out of the engine bay with spacers between the hinges and bonnet, the air flow now extracting hot air.
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
The weight of the hood should only effect 0-60 by 0.10s max, plus the aerodynamics are worse without it so I didn't see it as an issue
@SystemofaDowns
@SystemofaDowns Ай бұрын
@@HatersGarage Genius! 👌😃
@SystemofaDowns
@SystemofaDowns Ай бұрын
You make excellent content 😃🤌
@thomasmm415
@thomasmm415 Ай бұрын
You are so entertaining, almost fell in love. 😏😅
@riotcailin
@riotcailin Ай бұрын
that was nuts
@ARockyRock
@ARockyRock Ай бұрын
that aint a cold air intake, thats a dope air intake, damn bro
@Tappar1
@Tappar1 Ай бұрын
Missed opportunity for adding an extreme (bucket?) ram air intake to the extreme intake test!
@kepofshangri-la8942
@kepofshangri-la8942 21 күн бұрын
I'd love to see you compare all of this with the stock intake.
@djhero0071
@djhero0071 Ай бұрын
The shit this man has done to that Sentra is both inspiring and borderline an automotive war crime.
@karelpgbr
@karelpgbr Ай бұрын
Eurobeat while driving is the best man
@RapidRedRider
@RapidRedRider Ай бұрын
Removing the hood is probably what had the most effect tbh
@ExiledWolf84
@ExiledWolf84 Ай бұрын
I love how random that ending of the video was!
@Stevelangdon93
@Stevelangdon93 Ай бұрын
Forgot to test the air box, but this is interesting stuff
@BeforeZack
@BeforeZack 4 күн бұрын
this video proves what I’m about to say, but with oem intake on my car it would heat soak after the first pull and power would drop off dramatically even with the filter taken out the box. Replaced with a cold air intake to the fender well, and had no drop off of power so it definitely works. I had the stock exhaust so it wasn’t any faster, your exhaust is supposed to be tuned to your intake and vice versa for optimal gains.
@CreamAle
@CreamAle Ай бұрын
Giant dose pipes, gotta get the KeepItReet fellas happy with zootoootoootoos from a turbo. We already have some wild exhaust, não we need to turbo it and get the Zoots going.
@5say307
@5say307 8 күн бұрын
The unicorn intake 😂❤❤❤
@NeverLetOff
@NeverLetOff Ай бұрын
Maximum safety!
@NilsOberheim
@NilsOberheim Ай бұрын
When the air filter is hanging outisde its basically an ram air intake. The faster you go the more Air is pushed in. Basically like a very small turbo charger
@caffinatedraven
@caffinatedraven Ай бұрын
Eurobeat is the vibe fs
@briansuderman5597
@briansuderman5597 Ай бұрын
Playing Eurobeat instantly improves 0-60 time
@caffinatedraven
@caffinatedraven Ай бұрын
@@briansuderman5597 facts
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim Ай бұрын
are you sure that silicone tube isnt collapsing when the hood is on when with engine bay heat? I have seen those couplers do that before, I diaged an s14 that fell on its face with hard throttle, it was a strange one but I eventually found the tube was collapsing as the engine sucked in air when the car was hot and the silicone got hot.
18 күн бұрын
The open hood also made the temperature around the air pipe lower, so the result is deceiving. There, the lowering of the temperature of the air pipe was also simulated.
@djcybercorgi
@djcybercorgi Ай бұрын
What about a RAM AIR intake now?!?!?! GREAT VIDEO!!!
@48walk
@48walk Ай бұрын
My goodness🔥
@7mgtesup1
@7mgtesup1 Ай бұрын
When doing acceleration tests I would use 3rd gear and accelerate between two speeds that fall between 2000rpm and just short of redline. That way you don't have gear shifts and launches that can make well over half a second difference if not perfect every time.
@alencarlerbach5796
@alencarlerbach5796 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs Ай бұрын
half a second is crazy
@JimJamShimmyShatts
@JimJamShimmyShatts Ай бұрын
Do you think the longer intake runner accounted for much of the additional power? I've seen other people test that with positive results. Might need to figure out how to do a hot air intake with the stupid long runner
@rigelparker3802
@rigelparker3802 16 күн бұрын
It's not a B15 Sentra without some zipties. Cool video!
@gohachi5313
@gohachi5313 Ай бұрын
I think that your improvement in time came more from the hood weight reduction than the intake. If you added a sandbag at the equal weight of the hood, that could have helped the validity of the science, but I still appreciate the dedication to testing.
@dakotajones8010
@dakotajones8010 Ай бұрын
my buddy tunes Hemis we've been telling people to go back to the stock air box, its sealed and has plenty of air for the engine and the aftermarket intakes either give you hot air or false knock. We did hours of logging on a tune device. still curious to see if intake manifold porting and eventually head porting will gain anything even on a stock tune.
@noobricer
@noobricer Ай бұрын
I like this channel. Half stupid half mad tests, for the sake of the audience 😂😂👍👍
@matthewbishop776
@matthewbishop776 Ай бұрын
Hey I love all your videos. I live in the same town as you and I was wondering if you wanted to experiment with different V8 exhausts. I can pay for the materials
@EGSKillshot
@EGSKillshot Ай бұрын
I Just got recommended the dual exhaust video, and after watching it again, I decided to come back here with a question. What if you put a resonator in the pipe, I was thinking widening the pipe in the middle would make it sound even deeper.
@garyperkins5603
@garyperkins5603 Ай бұрын
I wonder if that intake would make a huge difference in the winter
@garnerblair5179
@garnerblair5179 Ай бұрын
Has a jousting vibe
@alonecardenas7922
@alonecardenas7922 6 күн бұрын
Do a Leaf blower turbo next!!!!
@MissingLinkGTRS
@MissingLinkGTRS Ай бұрын
For a less out there way to fit it as a cold air intake you could try and find a way to route the intake to the front near the grille portion of the bumper idk how you’d do it exactly but food for thought
@supaoranges1086
@supaoranges1086 Ай бұрын
New suggestion, hood scoop + hot air intake. The best of both worlds, just don’t drive it in the rain 👌
@jeraldjoyce2995
@jeraldjoyce2995 Ай бұрын
you should do autocross with this new, coldest air intake.
@groovealate74
@groovealate74 Ай бұрын
Yes, I loved the chirping birds.. HAHAHAA!! Just added effect🤣👍🏻
@hamzawerks
@hamzawerks Ай бұрын
new Haters Garage video HELL YEAH
@lukasbuhler1359
@lukasbuhler1359 Ай бұрын
I’m curious to see how much the hood impacted it. Rerunning all of them with the hood off would remove another variable
@benkappaa
@benkappaa 6 күн бұрын
it might become faster if a better placed intake(or an intake with a heatshield and air ducts leading to it) plus having the hood on as it will effect the aero. But the times might be better cus of the weight of the hood not being there.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Ай бұрын
I bet doing a janky air scoop hood (just cut a hole over the air intake, bend until it's horizontally flat, tack in some steel triangles to hold it in position) would get a similar performance boost to the cold air extendo snorkel.
@pugs1377
@pugs1377 Ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to see what the stock air box did too
@Joshua-YeetRat
@Joshua-YeetRat Ай бұрын
original position for the intake and get a offset hood vent/intake thingy?
@kmemz
@kmemz Ай бұрын
You could try the hot air intake's setup, but make a vent that directs air from across the top of the radiator towards the intake and a heat shield between it and the engine. Would it be chilled enough to make a similar difference?
@HatersGarage
@HatersGarage Ай бұрын
Probably, OEMS do something similar to that
@bakedandsteaked
@bakedandsteaked Ай бұрын
Wondering if the gains came from cooler intake temps, more optimized flow characteristics, or both, but either way that seems like decent gain
@NotAGerman
@NotAGerman 11 күн бұрын
Indeed.
@MetallitiGames
@MetallitiGames Ай бұрын
Doesn't a longer intake also produce more HP? Double gain?
@garrettbaldridge1597
@garrettbaldridge1597 Ай бұрын
That’s nuts had me dying
@kristianklaucke3926
@kristianklaucke3926 Ай бұрын
Im just curious how routing the aircon to the air intake would affect performance. Aircon systems add nothing to performance infact, they only draw power and add weight. Hot air contains less oxigen then cold air but how much oxigen does the air contain coming out of the airco? If you could reroute one vent back into the enginebay and onto the airbox or something, would this improve anything?
@Jdogblingbling
@Jdogblingbling Ай бұрын
Maybe a hood scoop to funnel some air to the hot ram intake?
@johnd5619
@johnd5619 3 күн бұрын
very scientific, i must say
@danielbready
@danielbready 6 сағат бұрын
Bro your engine is pretty clean, how to clean it? With what? my 1.2 litter corsa with 85Hp need some excessive cleaning
@donald4095
@donald4095 Ай бұрын
I know with boosted LS motors after we tune them you can take that air filter off and get 80 horsepower
@eryczakpl2337
@eryczakpl2337 Ай бұрын
This video worries me because I'm about to boost my car and didn't think intake would be important, I might need to upgrade the setup 😎
@FlyingSpur99
@FlyingSpur99 Ай бұрын
Battery relocation and induction headlight next?
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