Extreme Cold Air Intake Testing - How Much HP Gain?

[@HatersGarage]

So people are saying that I should have run a test with the hot-air intake with the hood off, due to the weight savings without the hood. Let's say the hood is 50 lbs, the math says it would help the 0-60 time by 0.10s at most, along with the aerodynamic drag possibly slowing it down a tiny bit. So, we can say that the cold air intake improved the time by 0.47s instead of 0.57s. Also the hot-air intake wouldn't really be a hot-air intake anymore with the hood off, as it would be getting all kinds of fresh air that it wasn't before. There's also the possibility that the long pipe I put on had better resonance, which improved the time instead of the cold air. But that's a test for another day. Thank you for listening to my ted-talk.

[@vaibhavbansal8741]

Maybe it's weight of the hood or off hood make whole engine runs cooler.

[@namenomad2088]

100% just the fact that the hood was off which flooded the engine bay with cooler air

[@wheniztheend]

Still should have done no hood with the hot air intake. Would have taken any uncertainty out the equation.

[@alexanderwoolley1623]

Really loved the video, I'd say your performance was mostly gained from the out of hood design having the filter in a larger volume of air, I've got all my cold air intakes running downstream either from the bonnit or the front bumper, I would look at in the future doing a battery relocation mod either into the boot or even behind the glovebox against the firewall, this is so you can make an air channel from the front bumper directing it toward the filter, not only gaining cooler air, but far more air than just being stashed behind the battery.

[@HatersGarage]

@@alexanderwoolley1623 I'm planning on moving the filter toward the fender along with a block off plate, and if I don't see the same performance that I did with the stupid intake I may add some hood vents for it.

[@kdesikdosi5900]

i love the drawing around the "activate windows" thing

[@ghezinho9049]

Almost didn't noticed it because it was overlapping with my activate windows lmao

[@alexanderwoolley1623]

Thankyou for pointing that out lmao

[@_ulick]

google microsoft activation scripts

[@Psythik]

@@ghezinho9049 You know that Windows can be activated for free, right? All you gotta do is change your activation server to a different one not controlled by Microsoft. Literally takes seconds. Just type in a couple of commands into CMD and Windows is activated forever. Google it; it's really easy.

[@hellfiredreadnought4618]

I'm not entirely sure what the feeling/vibe that this channel gives me, but it reminds me of just some chill friends hanging out and messing around with stuff while tinkering and I love it.

[@Grimm-Gaming]

Reminds me of original Haggard Garage days.

[@Zoey_KL]

Braden Carlson before he grew up. Look at his old videos.

[@Grimm-Gaming]

@@Zoey_KL The Steve!

[@Zoey_KL]

@@Grimm-Gaming YES :D I got sad when Braden stopped making that type of silly content, and was the only reason I subbed. I'm glad someone else is just doing wack stuff with their own cars now, as soon as I found the crazy exhaust vids I subbed.

[@Grimm-Gaming]

@Zoey_KL yeah. I miss ...stupid car builds. Only reason i watch cleetus still is cause he himself is just so damn entertaining. I can care less about a 3000hp el camino but hes why i watch....

[@patato5237]

thats not a cold air intake, thats a FRIGID intake

[@poprawa]

Nope, some dudes are using AC refrigerant loop to cool down intake air. This name is for them

[@Christdeliverme]

​@@poprawa Which makes no sense because all compressors shut off at WOT

[@smileyguyz]

@@Christdeliverme If you're running AC loops to cool down the intake, you probably know how to make the compressor run at WOT

[@alexanderwoolley1623]

​@@poprawathat's technically an exchanger intercooler nothing to do with the intake

[@Alex_Bket]

@@poprawa im from canada trust me stock intake with -20c make my all my car faster i call this FROZEN THEY NUTS

[@MsGabriel36]

This channel its what all automotive content should be, no bs, no drama, fun, and being pretty honest, "ok you right, im wrong" isnt a thing we see a lot this days

[@BuffMyRadius]

In 3 episodes the Sentra will have itbs, two separate plenums, and snorkels from Suzuki Samurais.

[@badusername9903]

i believe the upper troposphere is pretty cold, he should get the ends of the snorkels to about cruising altitude

[@litlsnek]

all for science!

[@AlmondNut]

Bro did all that work and *STILL* never Activated Windows

[@theslowcrx]

BABE LOOK HATERS GARAGE UPLOADED

[@jonathanbyrd90]

you're boyfriend doesn't care.

[@johnm3907]

Are you not embarrassed by that comment.

[@trulyirrelevant17]

You are definitely one of the car channels of all time I’ll give you that

[@GoyslopGladiator]

omg babe exhaust guy uploafed (activate windows gang)

[@zelashizzz1278]

Back in the day (circa early 2000's), I had an older prelude with a legit CAI, was hidden behind the front bumper inches from the ground. The ol butt dyno said it worked great. I ran through a huge puddle once and sucked water into the engine and luckily didn't kill the engine but it was a good reminder to put that bypass valve on that was sitting in the box, lmao

[@HatersGarage]

Yeah water puddles are the natural predator of the cold air intake

[@alexanderwoolley1623]

​@@HatersGaragekeep your filters freshly waxed and it's less of a problem, I've got my CAI on a 350z and that thing will never go outside in the rain, I don't wanna blow up my VQ

[@dumbestoyster]

You can get valves that go in the intake that solves that

[@admiralnelson4225]

Keep it up with the good crackhead energy

[@dannyloughman]

The hood delete made the most power

[@longebane]

i cant believe he put it back on when he did the silicone boot test after claiming he wanted a fair comparison for his devotion to science

[@VelaNovaBlaze]

@@longebanethat steel hood weighs like 45 pounds

[@gabrielvieira6529]

No. IT was not more powerful. The air passing trough the hood improves times more than it getting out and trapping air inside all of the engiene components without the hood.

[@malachihornbaker5869]

@@gabrielvieira6529that’s not how a car’s aerodynamics work. The exposed engine bay DEFINITELY created more turbulence than a smooth hood. For 0-60 times though, aero mods rarely make a measurable difference. The biggest effect would be from the weight reduction but it’s hard to say if it cancels out the effective air catcher he’s made of the engine bay. TLDR: his cold air intake was very effective. Removing the hood for it was likely negligible.

[@gabrielvieira6529]

@@malachihornbaker5869 I think I meant that. The air it was going trough the engine cmponents made more turbulence than if it had the hood. but the CAI outside the engine breathing pure air could have helped the engine to get more power, specially if it was already running rich

[@huzudra]

Changing the pipe length could also be at play, you may have accidently found a better tuned length and volume for your engine. The intake becomes sort of part of the intake plenum at WOT in a weird way and intake pulses crashing into each others pressure waves do some weird stuff. Results inconclusive, more testing needed. You'll have to cut a hole in the hood and point the filter out with the same coupler it uses under the hood. But real talk, hemholtz resonance tuning in air intakes can yield some actual factual gains.

[@HatersGarage]

That's possible, when I make the real cold air intake the length of the pipe will be different, the results from that will tell us if it was the length of the pipe

[@huzudra]

@@HatersGarage That would be fairly hilarious if you accidentally stumbled on the optimal length of pipe to gain the most power for your engine. Maybe next you'll build some intake manifolds or play with ITB's and runner/trumpet lengths, who knows.

[@Stona999]

Get a buddy to do this on his car and you can do an Excalibur style lance battle!!

[@HatersGarage]

HELL YEAH

[@rumgy4573]

Fact or Cap in less than 5 min. love this Channel

[@RapidRedRider]

Removing the hood is probably what had the most effect tbh

[@malachihornbaker5869]

You gain 1% horsepower for every 10*F drop in intake temp. It’s a proven fact. The hood missing hurt the cars performance above 40 mph and probably helped below. As far as power:weight is concerned; he raised his power by several percent but only lost less than 2% of the cars weight. Let alone the turbulence from the engine bay without a hood. The intake wins here. Not the hood

[@haventcenathing]

Greatest automotive channel of all time

[@andrasmolnar3331]

This really made my day, thanks a lot for all the good stuff on this channel

[@HatersGarage]

I'm glad you enjoy it

[@802Garage]

I might have tried the hot air with the hood off as well. Sounds strange, but the combo of lost weight and possibly somehow aero improvement could have made a difference. I highly doubt it though. That's a huge improvement. If you do make a proper cold air intake for it, test again!

[@HatersGarage]

I'd say the aero was worse without the hood, the reduced weight probably did help it some but not half a second worth. I'm definitely going to make a real CAI for it, and I will test with that too

[@802Garage]

@@HatersGarage Heck yeah man, awesome stuff!

[@haveaniceface7290]

Yeah how heavy is the hood?

[@CRneu]

I dont think the aero is gonna make any real difference for a 0-60 time above 7 seconds. The thermal difference is likely the key here. The colder air coming in plus the air going over the engine probably allows the engine to run a bit cooler and it's reacting by running a bit harder. When I replaced my radiator with a much more efficient one in my fiesta st i not only saw a few HP improvement but my mpg went up 3mpg as well. Some engines like to run a few degrees cooler.

[@802Garage]

@@CRneu Like I said, I highly doubt it, but scientific method means one variable at a time. ;)

[@Hoft236]

Man, this channel is priceless... keep doing this type of deal, it's friggin awesome

[@Team-Aerio]

Glad I'm not the only one that listens to eurobeat while I drive.

[@ifacecheck]

Might have just found my new favorite car channel. Never stop the jank.

[@exaltedb]

finally, the colder air intake

[@kotindustrie5584]

Love these vids, no bullshit and actually doing those experiments right. Keep it up

[@gwc_garage]

Ayooo thats one heck of a voice, I was not ready, i didnt think my phone speaker could convey that much bass

[@djhero0071]

The shit this man has done to that Sentra is both inspiring and borderline an automotive war crime.

[@gredausvemiru6236]

Bro your channel is a glod mine. Funny, straight to the point, side by side comparison between previous projects... You name it. Great stuff

[@benedictroberts678]

It's probable that there's the weight loss of the bonnet being off in those numbers too, you can get pretty good air flow out of the engine bay with spacers between the hinges and bonnet, the air flow now extracting hot air.

[@HatersGarage]

The weight of the hood should only effect 0-60 by 0.10s max, plus the aerodynamics are worse without it so I didn't see it as an issue

[@SystemofaDowns]

@@HatersGarage Genius! 👌😃

[@Drunken_Hamster]

With slow, slowish, and average cars I find a 20-80 and/or a 20-120 roll race to be the most satisfying. Really just any 20 roll in a slow to average car is satisfying because you get to start in the only gear that gives you the throwback(first), but at a reasonable about 1/2 to 2/3 the rev limit. IDK if draggy lets you record your own splits or only preset splits, but if it does let you customize the run, I'd be running 20-80s all day on anything at or worse than 15lbs per hp. Also, having the hood off might be worsening the aero drag enough to make a difference, too, so if you move the battery to the opposite corner of the car and make a cold air box in its place that pulls from a ram air bumper scoop, you'll see the best improvement, yet. Especially if you make something to vent hot air out of the engine bay and insulate (either with reflectix or actual insulation of some sort) the CAI box as well.

[@HatersGarage]

I enjoy launching this car because the 2.5 is so torquey down low, it only needs 2k rpm at launch and still spins the wheels

[@Drunken_Hamster]

@@HatersGarage Hey, fair enough. If my 2.3 Ranger wasn't so much of a clunker with all the slop in the GD driveline and suspension, I'd probably feel the same. I really shouldn't have financed this fuckin thing, TBH... I wish my tC didn't blow up... Shit, I wish my Ram from back in the day wasn't a quad cab because I genuinely wouldn't have cared about the economy if that thing were a single cab short bed. And if I did, I'd have swapped it with an OM606 by now.

[@vulcanizedanthony145]

When I had my '02 Celi GTS I had an injen short ram intake on it, I took out one of the side foglight covers and used some 4" drain tile from Menards to pipe it up to the side of the filter. It dropped my intake temps by about 8C while rolling and made the coolest sounds ever. Imo that's the best of both worlds, as long as you're not in stop and go all the time it helps a lot with intake temps, but you also get the lower restriction of having the shorter intake pipe. I never tested 0-60's and I don't think it'd help that way but it definitely had a lot more pick up while it was rolling bc of added airflow and better temps

[@repingers9777]

2zz and dohc vtec engines are so amazing man you get what i want to say is basically v6 acceleration in a high revving responsive form and get amazing induction sounds its really a shame most people think all 4cylinders are the same and sound the same when haven driven vtec preludes 9000rpm k20's, s2000,s and celica gts that just isnt true i mean its objectively untrue 😂 cool car tho hot air intake gives crazier sounds but usually less torque and heat soak but its worth

[@ClownWrldUSA]

I've been waiting for you to upload bro.

[@narancs5]

Gotta love the PowerPaint presentation.

[@Lee01Mr]

Ah another redlining video of the Nissan. What not to like, keep 'm coming

[@snickerdoooodle]

The B15 Sentra line was my first car and you're really making me want it back lmao

[@rileypaterson7117]

I love using the draggy to test my cars ! They definitely are becoming more popular. Glad you have it to test your mods. I love the style of your videos keep it up 😊

[@FunkMasterWood]

I cut a hole in the hood of one of my SpecVs, made a brace that moved a small portion of the filter above the hood, then put a Z31 hood scoop over it. I also spaced the hood a couple inches at the hinges. It really seemed to help with getting cooler air to the intake.

[@Lolfungreg]

Lovin it, as per usual! Maybe as a middle ground, you could have tested the hot air setup, but with a dedicated air duct to it!

[@TechSupporticus]

4:05 that guy is just as surprised you didn't activate as we are

[@ARockyRock]

that aint a cold air intake, thats a dope air intake, damn bro

[@wizardman6979]

This video is amazing cause I literally just got parts to make my own intake, and now I know that a heat shield is something I definitely want haha

[@tobias6115]

4:40 I needed to make the video to 1440p to see wtf is in the tree

[@caffinatedraven]

Eurobeat is the vibe fs

[@briansuderman5597]

Playing Eurobeat instantly improves 0-60 time

[@caffinatedraven]

@@briansuderman5597 facts

[@Uncle_John_Ai_Xin]

“Why are you the way you are?” What I say to myself every day 😅

[@xtbb1369]

Awesome test, you should try a velocity stack with a big honking pod filter next

[@chumplinz4920]

It's been proven time and time again, a true cold air intake is one that's specifically engineered for a car to make power. A free-flowing pipe and cone filter in the fender well might smooth out your powerband or shift it about, maybe give you one or two horsepower, but realistically, all it does is give you sound. The hot air intake does the same thing really, can shift your powerband and makes more noise but it's main draw back is of course it's a HOT air intake which majority of the time loses power. Best to stick with your factory air box and a free flowing panel filter.

[@3kzack]

this video proves what I’m about to say, but with oem intake on my car it would heat soak after the first pull and power would drop off dramatically even with the filter taken out the box. Replaced with a cold air intake to the fender well, and had no drop off of power so it definitely works. I had the stock exhaust so it wasn’t any faster, your exhaust is supposed to be tuned to your intake and vice versa for optimal gains.

[@ianfairbanks1318]

Love these crazy shenanigans. please sir, more!

[@KaDaJxClonE]

"The difference between science and messing around is writing it down." -Adam Savage

The open hood also made the temperature around the air pipe lower, so the result is deceiving. There, the lowering of the temperature of the air pipe was also simulated.

[@ExiledWolf84]

I love how random that ending of the video was!

[@bekindandrewind1422]

The factory air box draws it's air from either behind the headlight or the fender.. I'm wondering that the 0-60 would be with that.

[@gabrielvieira6529]

the amount of pipes and turns the air has to do cancels that

[@Stevelangdon93]

Forgot to test the air box, but this is interesting stuff

[@KurumaDesigns]

Another banger upload, makes me want to test this on my e36

[@KiraSlith]

I bet doing a janky air scoop hood (just cut a hole over the air intake, bend until it's horizontally flat, tack in some steel triangles to hold it in position) would get a similar performance boost to the cold air extendo snorkel.

[@NilsOberheim]

When the air filter is hanging outisde its basically an ram air intake. The faster you go the more Air is pushed in. Basically like a very small turbo charger

[@Tappar1]

Missed opportunity for adding an extreme (bucket?) ram air intake to the extreme intake test!

[@XISAVAGEV1]

Guys actually playing my summer car.

[@Andrey_ny3blpbkoB]

Yaaa, thnx for vid!! Cheers! ✊ Stupid intake = windy compressor! Waiting next test 🙂 Your Sentra have a fun life in good hands : )

[@z-trip5457]

"Wake up babe, new haters garage vid dropped"

[@Doomer17018]

over 5 percent change is surprising, the real test would be quickly logging intake manifold temp through your obd and checking if you are actually getting that large of a reduction. maybe the big gain is the "rAm AiR" as pontiac would call it by forcing the intake into the air stream lol

[@groovealate74]

Yes, I loved the chirping birds.. HAHAHAA!! Just added effect🤣👍🏻

[@karelpgbr]

Eurobeat while driving is the best man

[@ChrisOnez718]

love the graphics at the end 😆

[@CreamAle]

Giant dose pipes, gotta get the KeepItReet fellas happy with zootoootoootoos from a turbo. We already have some wild exhaust, não we need to turbo it and get the Zoots going.

[@gabrielvieira6529]

I mean, it is getting LOADS OF MORE AIR outside of the engine than inside, so it naturally will INCREASE power! Along with the immense lenght of airflow that this is generating!

[@GRINDPLAYLISTS]

I have a idea : What about Re-designing the air intake ?. - Remove battery and get it in the trunk. - Use the space to make a heat Shield so the air wouldn't catch heat from the radiator. - Make a functional hood scoop at that side of the bay but also that air can flow through it ( with a drilled air exit on the back of the scoop so the air wouldn't turbulate into the bay ). - Use the silicon boot and piping which wouldn't hold heat. - Have FUN with a ROARING engine and a HOOD SCOOP.

[@Mr371312]

Didnt know the postal dude was into cars

[@noobricer]

I like this channel. Half stupid half mad tests, for the sake of the audience 😂😂👍👍

[@elielsandunguero]

Use a 3 gear pull only from 30 mph to redline is many variants on launch and shifting this will give you more accurate results . Still impressive gain for something that simple .

[@7mgtesup1]

When doing acceleration tests I would use 3rd gear and accelerate between two speeds that fall between 2000rpm and just short of redline. That way you don't have gear shifts and launches that can make well over half a second difference if not perfect every time.

[@gohachi5313]

I think that your improvement in time came more from the hood weight reduction than the intake. If you added a sandbag at the equal weight of the hood, that could have helped the validity of the science, but I still appreciate the dedication to testing.

[@kepofshangri-la8942]

I'd love to see you compare all of this with the stock intake.

[@dakotajones8010]

my buddy tunes Hemis we've been telling people to go back to the stock air box, its sealed and has plenty of air for the engine and the aftermarket intakes either give you hot air or false knock. We did hours of logging on a tune device. still curious to see if intake manifold porting and eventually head porting will gain anything even on a stock tune.

[@TexasVexes]

Most stock air boxes are cold air intakes

[@hufman9807]

Should have just checked intake temps with each filter

[@chaoticpuppet1]

I just subbed. I also just switched back to my OEM airbox from hot air because squirrels

[@Cream314s]

One thing to think about is that by putting it ouside the car you cause a mild amount of forced induction not boost worthy but maybe neutral intake pressure similar to a ram air effect

[@Clappedfiero]

That’s nuts had me dying

[@TommyboyGTP]

I believe the longer tube of the cold air intake made more of a difference in power delivery. I bet if you trim the long runner shorter and rest the filter on top of the battery so it's getting the same amount of cold air, it will be slower.

[@malachihornbaker5869]

Why? Why would people advertise shorter intakes if they make less power. Helmholtz resonance is a thing but we don’t have half the numbers to calculate it. The best intake is short as possible sucking cold air. That’s why individual throttlebody intakes (also known as velocity stacks) work.

[@TommyboyGTP]

@@malachihornbaker5869 velocity stacks with short runners work at high rpm's, above 6k on up. They don't make squat for power at lower rpm's.

[@malachihornbaker5869]

@@TommyboyGTPhe spent maybe 2 seconds during his 0-60 run at “low rpms” in first gear. It may be more drive-able in the city but race cars don’t care about low end torque because gearing always solves that issue. The length of tubing was not responsible for any power gains. The filter placement and smoother piping was.

[@TommyboyGTP]

@@malachihornbaker5869 whatever you say

[@bakedandsteaked]

Wondering if the gains came from cooler intake temps, more optimized flow characteristics, or both, but either way that seems like decent gain

[@Jdogblingbling]

Maybe a hood scoop to funnel some air to the hot ram intake?

[@michaelstigall1436]

The cold air intake make a big difference but so does removing 50+lbs hood

[@magnusandersen8898]

1:33 One of the great questions of life indeed

[@peterbellwood5412]

A story. When I was young many moons ago, I would often hear adults shout: Hey be careful. You could take someone's eye out with that thing! Now I know what they meant😄

[@dumbestoyster]

The improvement is from the length increase on the "extreme" intake

[@malachihornbaker5869]

No. Just no.

[@benkappaa]

it might become faster if a better placed intake(or an intake with a heatshield and air ducts leading to it) plus having the hood on as it will effect the aero. But the times might be better cus of the weight of the hood not being there.

[@lukasbuhler1359]

I’m curious to see how much the hood impacted it. Rerunning all of them with the hood off would remove another variable

[@PseudoPhingo]

I think part of reason why the cold air intake made your car faster by half a second is because you had more bottom end torque because of the long intake runner. This is why you see some cars with long intake runners in between the manifold and the filter to achieve as much low end torque as possible. Isn’t that something?

[@garyperkins5603]

I wonder if that intake would make a huge difference in the winter

[@sirblood-d2j]

Stg may be crazy but was that blackout from eurobeat? At 2:25?

[@BionicleC4]

Idea: cold air intake + turbo. Maximize air pressure, make denser air, engine happier, success.

[@SystemofaDowns]

You make excellent content 😃🤌

[@dovydaskaminskas4227]

It does change a bit, but yours difference was a bit extreme. Problem with some real cold air intakes are that the pipes themselves are not insulated from engine heat. And even if the intake end takes cold air, it will eventually heat up from hot pipes that got hot inside the engine bay.

[@MissingLinkGTRS]

For a less out there way to fit it as a cold air intake you could try and find a way to route the intake to the front near the grille portion of the bumper idk how you’d do it exactly but food for thought

[@afroman5531]

I remember putting an actual cold air intake on my car that I had made and the temps dropped by 30-60 degree’s thru my live data scanner

[@supaoranges1086]

New suggestion, hood scoop + hot air intake. The best of both worlds, just don’t drive it in the rain 👌

[@FlyingSpur99]

Battery relocation and induction headlight next?

[@thomasmm415]

You are so entertaining, almost fell in love. 😏😅

[@rigelparker3802]

It's not a B15 Sentra without some zipties. Cool video!