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[@groove4528]

It’s been kinda interesting to see the gameplay evolve in these videos. At first, CPG approach is almost formal in a way, so precise and almost immediately knowing what to execute and when and how to do so. Then, somewhere along Extreme Rescues (no coincidence i’m sure), it gets a lil more hectic. Strays from his own imposed realism and relies on the game tactics and acknowledging how it’s a video game so he can get as risky as he wants in this situation. With this tho comes rushed and intense situations, which are never dealt with perfectly clean. Around 8:00 when the assaulter dies entering the room on the right, no one checked the bathroom and kept their backs to it despite open breaches in the wall. I’m not trying to nitpick or even diss the videos at all, just a weird observation. I watch every daily upload and frequently revisit videos so clearly I’m still digging it :)

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

This campaign has been a grind. I'm ready to hunt again.

[@Destyvirago]

To be honest the difficulty is so extreme you have to "game" the system to win. There are hostage rescue missions where you got 4 guys taking down a mansion with over 30 hostiles and 4+ hostages. Many of the missions in this game if tried IRL would have more than 20+ operators attacking from multiple directions at once. Since this at it's core is a game and the developer wants you to take some time doing each mission they make sure the odds are stacked against you. In the first missions the odds are much more fair and doing realistic tactics work, but as you get to the later missions the difficulty spikes and you have to use "game logic" to win and not RL tactics. This mission if tried in RL would have given him 10+ men and 3+ snipers. Naturally the mission would be over pretty quick that way.

[@YOLO-nx3xy]

@@Destyvirago if you really want to game the system in this mission you can just use the sniper to take out every enemy, he can kill all executioners before they kill any hostages and half the terrorist as well, not exactly realistic in a hostage situation but it works in game.

[@schmarrenheimer80]

To be fair this is mostly the game itself changing its character with these later missions. Especially the hostage / HVT missions force you to race against time, and very often it becomes a trial and error for me. Nothing wrong with that per se, but it definitely changes from simulation to arcade.

[@balaurbondoc7568]

A realistic number of operators paired with the unrealistic advantages the player has(namely a time machine and psychic powers lol) would make the game way too easy, but it would be cool to see a "realistic" mode where you have only one try to beat a mission and less knowledge of the building interior, but way more soldiers to make up for it.

[@nguyen-vuluu3150]

he just saw 5 bathrooms in a row and immediately had a PTSD flashback

[@Jonas-pd8xk]

the frustration in your voice at the bathrooms sold this

[@Groinath]

I had a bit different run with this mission, with the wall shot placed on the kitchen wall and a door shot right next to it. After failing many dynamic entries, I replaced all my assaulters with grenadiers fighting through the threshold and eventually resorted to 40mm only in tight groupings where no dead space or civilians were present. Lucky me, there were indeed no hostages, but do not try this at home folks!

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Full send 🤘

[@alexmdoe7102]

I can relate. I solved it in the end by throwing grenades over the wall of the civvi apartment on the right. Not realistic, but effective.

[@StevenL00]

2 ways to do this for me Rangers: 3 assaulters and 1 MG (which is gonna be useless for the most part, spoiler alert), get in the civ apartment using a dynamic hammer, which is gonna alert the FAs in the next room over but that's fine. Wall shot with the MG through the concrete wall at bottom right, taking out both the grunt and executioner there, use sniper fire to farm some kills too, I prefer taking out FAs and vets first for obvious reasons. Then starting with the FA room immediately to your right, leave 1 assaulter behind at the breach to pull security and the MG back to the door to do the same down the hallway, the other 2 just go room to room hallway to hallway and just don't forget to use sniper wherever possible CIA: pick lock on main door of the terro apartment since rangers can't do that anymore, throw a nade deep towards the 2 executioners and a bang (or a nade) to the couch area where that FA is, have all 4 guys clear as many enemies as you can, then start heading in, be sure to watch both sides as there are enemies in the long hallway invisible to the sniper and at least 1 grunt in on the long edge of the balcony, and once clear you just go room to room with the Black Ops and maybe pull security down the outer edge of the balcony with your Undercovers

[@thelongstory6395]

For this one, I think I went into the civilian side on the right and made an entry point at the bottom. That's how I maintained my stealth for as long as possible.

[@cianmcswiney2505]

Exactly the same; if you use M4s, set up a wall shot and between them and the sniper you gank the executioners, takes a lot of the pressure off

[@Vincent-jq7bq]

I went in trough the second bathroom from the left, no ececutioners were triggered until i was completely inside (because they didnt see anybody die/see us enter)

[@Haren94]

This is probably the best approach to the mission.

[@bakersmileyface]

I did this too, but without the stealth. Just popped a wall shot on to the bed, on the balcony and a slap on the front door. Had all of my guys rush into the room and cleared the place from right to left using snipers and people in the balcony. This map was really easy for me

[@bm8985]

I completed this one similarly. Wall breach's in the same spots mostly. One operator for each breach holding a tight angle. The one thing I did differently was send two operators through the civilian apartment to the balcony. Wall breach's the balcony so I could kill all of the executioners at once. Other wall breach's just to control movement. Used the two balcony guys to blow open windows so the sniper could engage.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

I considered that but was concerned that a soft compromise of the civilians would cause them to flee and hard compromise us elsewhere. Probably manageable in DK2 tho.

[@coryhoggatt7691]

The game should let you detain civilians.

[@temply6216]

It's so awkward to see Controlled Pairs plan the whole rescue 10 times better than I did (Even in parts when he fails)

[@FireFlanker1]

I notice on the right side that the operator's death was avoidable... because his command was to open to the door despite an enemy coming towards him.. (which got him shot) but also I noticed that the security for him was poor too as his buddy was not pie enough to protect him as he went for the door... (leading him to get shot)... other than that detailed, loved the video and you deferentially did a better job at figuring it out than me lol

[@_ducjk]

you did it! this one was the most fun and easy of the extreme rescues missions imo

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

It was fun! Wish I hadn't taken the two casualties but it was still a good run.

[@_ducjk]

you did a great job, I didn’t even think to take the route you did

[@orderofazarath7609]

That civilian is fun. "Explosions in the neighbour's flat? Let's leave the safety of mine and jump in there through a hole in the wall" =D

[@tsram]

You should really start using 1, 2 ,3 4 for the go codes and S for sniper support. Really speeds up gameplay since you don't have to move the mouse across and click.

[@kokolekroko882]

This is extremly Badass. Man this campaign!

[@cameronnovy3718]

When I played this map I split my assaulters, two went and placed a wall shot on the bottom right balcony wall, and the other two stayed at the locked door. Then I threw some bangers over the balcony wall to prep, blew everything open and engaged all visible threats, prioritizing the executioners (one actually got vaporized by the wall shot). Next I pushed my left side assaulters in to start clearing the top rooms from left to right. I also moved my right side assaulters and cleared the large bathroom, then cleared the larger rooms in the bottom half of the map. I ended up with no casualties (no injuries either, due to luck or skill), all hostiles killed and living hostages. The trick is really just to prep (if you can), go hard and fast and prioritize the executioners. All in all I quite like this mission.

[@njuarin15]

Fili continues to be the man.

[@JJoJam]

Poor Peanut. :(

[@jasonwoodring4479]

One of my favorite levels, especially because I figured out a way to do it safely. Go through the civilian house, breach the wall on the southeast looking west with sniper support, then move through each room before squeezing that long horizontal hallway from the south. Great video!

[@therick14d]

Excellent news Pairs! There are now 3 new Extreme Rescue missions! ha I enjoyed the challenge of them and while I know this group has been frustrating, I do hope you play them too and post the videos.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Fml. Lol. It shall be done.

[@prfwrx2497]

My tactic, top slap, lockpick far right and down the wall, wall bang. Simo breach, snipe killer, clear left hallway, work to main hallway. Bottom element, one man move to clear right room, hold bathroom. Other man clear next room, and so on. Left hallway element clear each bathroom with long security, culminate on right room bathroom. Bang as situation allows.

[@jayswizzle57]

11:38 hey, that’s my line!

[@Eralen00]

This game seems like it could have very high replayability. New features, weapons/items, etc. but mainly new maps/campaigns. I think it would be awesome if they added a police/SWAT mode, maybe as a DLC or something. That could introduce a lot of new enemy types and settings, like drug cartels or mafia-type enemies

[@totallynotisaac3065]

Door kickers 1 was about SWAT. The graphics aren't as great, but I've played it and its super fun. If that's what you're into then i highly recommend getting it!

[@phalcon23]

I noticed in the stats it said 0/2 hostages lost... It would be interesting if in replay mode they had the option of "Disable Fog of War" or something like that so you could see what and where other things where going on earlier in the game. Also I wish this game had a Fog of War option where you couldn't see the building layouts until you actually have eyes on inside. I suppose sometimes you might have layout based on "intel" so it would also be neat if you could only see say in rooms that could be viewed from external windows. But ya, these are not fun missions... well they are and are not.

[@joegregory2843]

Hey CP, love the vids dude! Tactic I’ve discovered when breaching - let the flash get thrown before you trigger the wall charge. Just before it hits the wall blow the charge with a go code. Lets the 2man get his barrel back on the breach and the flash pops earlier. Keep up the good fight brother!

[@ManoKuro007]

These videos are so amazing, I'm very happy that I discovered them!

[@darraghgleeson]

Love these videos. Been watching these for a few days now. Keep it up.

[@oneeco]

That civilian must enjoy being a hostage, literally ran straight into the same room.

[@MateusVIII]

When I played this map I breached the wall in the varanda of the civilian apartment. It is pretty good because it gives you a line of fire on the executioners so you can enter a bit more slowly

[@dmitrikrosikio2684]

That civ really said "you know what? I hear gunshots and explosions next door, lemme go take cover over there"

[@frank26080115]

I never see you crouch in your videos. But you can crouch in the bottom right balcony corner without being seen, and plant another wall breach there which would take out one more executioner when you go loud, plus get a good angle on everybody else on the balcony.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Genius!

[@jameslee8573]

Yea mam this level was especially challenging had to retry it like 6 times to get those 3 stars but eventually did it. What I did was I had 4 assulters with mk18s and blew that door down on the NW side leading into the kitchen. I then went dynamic with a banger and managed to clear the living room area and went straight for that hallway. I went down it with 3 of my guys 1 holding rear sec and got to that bedroom where the hostage was. Bamged and cleared got that hostage secured and went on to clear the rest of the map. But yea it had some close moments but with good principles in place was able to make it happen with zero casualties. All 4 of my guys were injured so def close one. All in all man keep making these videos very educational now gonna go kick some doors cheers!

[@zf9903]

I’d love to see you spend some time and actually custom make a level (or simply modify an existing level) that better represents how you might find a combat scenario in the real world. Several times throughout the DK2 series I’ve seen you make some guesses as to where hostages are, where hostiles are, based off of the map analysis... There have been some real head-scratchers in there with enemy/hostage locations that ended up not making sense based on where things were placed to indicate an enemy presence.. Anyway, I’d love to see a Pairs level!

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Agreed

[@spacetexan8695]

When you have an extreme thirst, GRAB A CAN OF SPLODE y’all remember that? 😂

[@jjthai1]

That dam civi ran right into the breach and hostage room. There should be a way to contain civis

[@gabrahamblincoln2789]

I think you can arrest them? I don't remember, but you can definitely grenade them. Can't get in the way if they're dead

[@agenttatsu]

the executioner that was the closest (the one that was inside the center room) shouldve been your sniper's first target because it would have taken you time to work your entry and establish control of the hallway to prevent him from crossing to where you thought the hostages might be. if youd taken him out first, you would have had more time to work with instead of rushing your entry and losing 2 men.

[@jameshammond4730]

For this mission I managed to stay quiet for the whole thing. Didn't get caught and no sniper needed. Also like how he says he wants to stay quiet and bring all this suppressed guns. Then like 30seconds before even trying to go in he uses wall charges and flash bangs. Great way to get the executioner to kill a hostage

[@kingsix2000]

I went through the wall of the neighbor to kill one of the executors with the wall shot. In that way I got a clear shot of all executioners as the wall shot went off.

[@SleeperLX]

I remember doing this one similar to how Controlled did it. The big thing that makes it hard is morality choice, which sounds weird in this game. But my thoughts where that I didn't want to ruin the civilians apartment. I wasn't keen on putting a big fucking hole in their living room. Plus the opening up the line of fire from that angle puts the civies at risk.(we won't talk about the fact a civie ran fron his appartment into the combat zone like a dumbass)

[@Doc_TOM_Training]

*sigh* fuckin bathrooms..🤣 100% agree!

[@Rivv96]

Huh they nerfed this mission somehow. When I did it you had access to 6 operators.

[@Nuhuh130]

I went loud on this mission since we need to blow up walls to gain entry. I stacked all four assaulters on the top left , blew up the wall in the kitchen and assault from there without casualties.

[@robertsmall1657]

It would be cool to have other support options like the sniper. Maybe artillery or a missile strike from a drone etc... For one of the larger levels of course...

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

I believe more support options are being considered in the long term development of the game.

[@IronPhysik]

@@ControlledPairsGaming cant wait to drop a 2000lbs JDAM to level a house XD or just level Bin-ladens compound

[@filipwarpechowski6681]

After watching some of your videos on this game I reinstalled first Door Kickers and I noticed how much different it is (most noticeable thing being lack of frags of course :p ). I was wondering if you could play it cause there are some really nice maps too (unless you did and I somehow didn't notice). Either way; I'm really enjoying your content 👍

[@JJoJam]

Can somebody please make a 10hr loop of 8:08 :D Also, the way things have been going for him, we may also need a montage of "You killed Peanut! You bastards!".

[@Davefacestation]

I took the route through the civilian home tot he balcony wall and placed a wall shot there. Blowing away one executioner and fighting from the breach left me with clear lines to the other two. While at the same time coming in the main breach and flashing like mad.

[@cerfsoleil9436]

For some reason the civilian from the other home ran through the wall breach and into the room with the hostage, only to get a flashbang bonked off of his head.

[@loganevans5293]

when I did this mission I moved two guys over to the walled off area in the bottom right, where they threw grenades over to where the executioners were. then there was no-one that could kill the hostages, so I just slowly killed all the insurgents

[@TTRTIM]

I sent two grenadiers through the civilian occupied residence, put a wall shot on the wall separating me from the executioners. Upon blowing the wall apart I then went got rather liberal with my use of 40mm grenades and at the same time sent two assaulters in through the kitchen. I then left my two grenadiers in the room with the hostage while the assaulters cleared the rest of the structure. Three stars and only two minutes

[@jillsjakes2519]

There's an easier way for this one, which is to wall shot the storage room between the bathrooms and use a frag to pop the door to the bedroom open. Now you've got a clear line of fire onto any executioners who come through the centre-right doorway and can bang the room to your hearts content (4 bangs plus a wallshot), one wall shot next to the bathroom in case anyone's in there, while the rest of your operators are grenadiers who assertively clear the kitchen and sniper does their thing outside while covering the centre-left room..

[@jamesgardner3720]

This game will get even harder going forward :P

[@jakehopkinson2031]

Man I can't wait to get working again and buy DK2 you've lit a fire in me for it!

[@Three_Dog_Gaming]

Are you going to go back and 100% the ones that you didn't on the first run through and get the extra challenges?

[@lewiec9662]

What I did for this mission was have one team breach through the kitchen like you did but also have one team breach through the balcony of the civilians apartment that way I could Easily clear the balcony and the master bedroom without exposing my self too much then I just moved both teams through the apartment separately clearing the building then we regrouped on the final bathroom to clear that

[@GanjirahTheDoorKicker]

The game gets even more difficult from here. Indian country and operation subjugator have some brutal missions. You're gonna hate kamil pasha market.

[@captainbritain3724]

At 8:31 that civilian dead ass leaves his locked apartment to run into the other apartment where shootings and explosions are happening and also leaving the woman who I presume is his wife lmao.

[@AlliedX]

LAST LEVEL LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@therealjbc]

Question of curiosity, as I never got the chance to use a banger during my service: will they actually blow open (some?) doors, or is that just a quirk of the game? If so, are they sometimes employed in that way to avoid having to expose anyone to the breach?

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Nah they are strictly diversionary.

[@destatamasetianugra262]

Bam... Bam.... Psiu.... Psiu

[@cybercat8819]

hello you should activate dev mode and press f1 while replay or if you play a mission as if it is "no blan b" First person wive

[@S4R1N]

I just wall charged the civvy balcony wall, 2 guys went that way, 2 guys wall charged the kitchen, after breaching we had control of most of the map within seconds. Was a bit confused that you didn't do the same because it would have given you your L.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Didn't want to walk charge a room full of civies.

[@S4R1N]

@@ControlledPairsGaming Hrm, fair but it would be on the balcony and clearing the civvies quietly would keep them safe from overpenetration from the gunfight. Not that it deterred them from screaming and running from their apartment into middle of the fight anyway haha @9:03

[@Jonas-pd8xk]

I know you already do the after action report but do you think you’d ever go back to your own footage of this game and see what you would do better

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Yeah I'd like to do something like that. Unfortunately those videos Haven't been performing particularly well.

[@rideordie71]

Is there a way to watch the whole thing in real time when you finish the level? If so you should add it to the end of the video

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

It's at the end of this very video

[@rideordie71]

@@ControlledPairsGaming well this is awkward

[@jayswizzle57]

Good shit👍

[@christopherg2347]

I see no way to be silent the way you approached. Not being heard does not mater if you (or your kills) are seen. And there was plenty of sight range for the enemies, plus a lot of glass being there as backstop (shatters, allerting enemies). Some silenced pistols might have allowed you to clean that civilian part, zip tie the civies and then have a angle to shoot along the balcony. Maybe kill the patroling guy with the sniper support while he was in dead space for the enemy.

[@721pjm]

Hey Pairs just fyi if you press "F" (I think) you can play the game in slow motion.

[@GanjirahTheDoorKicker]

It's "L"

[@721pjm]

@@GanjirahTheDoorKicker Thank you!

[@GanjirahTheDoorKicker]

@@721pjm No problem

[@Aditya-wg3lp]

vantage point is a pretty nice level compared to Fergie's and maniac mansion

[@Bttl71958]

More please

[@evangelineirene6994]

5 Bathrooms with an apartment or an apartment with 5 bathroom?

[@brendingillem266]

Not looking forward to completing this one. Especially when trying to get all the challenges completed.

[@deniselias5405]

I like your videos, but please please please get a pop filter for your mic. please! and put a 80hz low cut on your mic

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

I pop filter and EQ my audio. I'll look at adjusting some things if it's distracting.

[@deniselias5405]

@@ControlledPairsGaming maybe the low cut a little higher :) i'm an audio engineer. its just horrible how my ears are trained to hearing this.

[@derpommfritz575]

How do you make the units look in a direction for theire whole route? After a few meters without a manual vision direction they are looking along theire pathing.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Hold shift

[@redpillwill686]

Onward VR plz

[@marcmarti1342]

keep uploading pls

[@simonsinko823]

SWAT 4 ?

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Members already have access to the next one ;)

[@the_1guapoguy]

First off, what kind of house needs 4 bathrooms? Second off, I love your videos so much and you are the reason I've become interested and invested in CQB, I watch them every chance I get. Your channel is criminally underrated and I hope to see you grow fast. I also think it would be awesome to see a video of some defensive CQB, and what you have to change about that vs traditional offensive CQB.

[@ThePotatoAddict]

Lots of houses have setups like this. One guest bath at the front door, two more accommodating bathrooms for the regular bedrooms, and then the master bath and master bedroom

[@ThePotatoAddict]

@Squant America. Edit: in all serious though, it’s because extreme consumerism and expected accommodations for luxury.

[@_DST0NE_]

You're game play makes me look like a damn idiot 🤣🤣

[@Anax89]

I take issue with your consistent choice of the suppressed M9 as a companion to the mp5sd6 - you now have redundant capabilities in both weapon systems, albeit one of which is seriously inferior. In what scenario do you imagine deploying the M9, wherein the mp5 is not a vastly superior choice? For me that would be a shit meets the fan scene, where the mp5 hs run dry, and you now need to scramble to end the gunfight by any means necessary, a last ditch effort. A suppressor brings nothing to this scenario, and thus a 1911, or a G22 will be a more powerful choice - if you even bother bringing a sidearm.

[@thedigitaldemon8010]

vote a redo without the suppressed.