All you need to know! Bose L1 Pro8 - EDITED

[@darylstevenett1]

Best comprehensive and most thorough review I've ever experienced.... Awesome! (Bose should send you a gift card!)

[@EytschPi42]

Thanks man!

[@chrismurray2978]

Thank you ,Henning, for reviewing these line array systems.I've been curious for many years about these and it's good to hear a thorough and detailed explanation. The main reason I watch your videos is that you give a clear, no bullshit account of items you review- which is what we actually want to hear.. not some crafted infomercial we have to decipher by making adjustments in our perceptions just to read a clear result.You seem to provide the info we need and nothing more or less-styling your posts in such a way that we can get a realistic idea and a clear picture-just what the customer wanted( not as the marketing department envisaged it!) Keep it up!(as the actress said to the bishop!)

[@edmurphy671]

"A system like this will get into the hands of someone who don't know shit". Exactly! Thank you for emphasizing the fact the adjustments are not for level but for present. Even if I learned nothing else, that piece was worth watching the entire video. And your turnkey suggestions are great ideas. I hope Bose listens to you. Many "new musicians" have come out of the covid lockdowns and they need all the help they can get.

[@davidbellile9241]

Fantastic, useful information! I'm an acoustic vocalist/guitarist working in a combo with a acoustic/electric bass player and cajon beat box drummer. I have owned the Pro 8 for nearly a year now and have been happy with it overall for small venue performances. However, we do some gigs that require a bit more sound reinforcement, and have run into a few problems. The thing that gave me the most difficulty was pairing it with other components (Bose and other PA brands) using the output and Tonematch connections. I also use the Bluetooth feature for two different personal devices, and that took a little time to get right. There are definitely some tricks I had to learn through trial and error, and you are 100% that the layman who purchases this is going to need better instructions. You might consider another demo video of how to hook up and dial in additional PA components and Bluetooth. Big thanks for this video.

[@rchw8052]

Good to finally see a decent musician test these Bose systems. This gives credibility for the product. Well done guys.

[@TMoody]

dude singing is AWESOME..... going to buy this unit b/c of this video. Thanks.

[@boomerbassmeme]

This worth a 2nd watch for Rafa alone really, but the updated improved info is much appreciated 😊👍

[@adamwoodall]

Just bought it! Loving it! I have been using the L1 compacts for years but it was just nice to have something similar with a slightly larger bass cabinet for when you're playing acoustic guitar and then switching to DJ later. The same portability and ease-of-use with just a little more thump and power.

[@AnthonySchmitt]

This is great content. You kept my attention the whole time, which i saying a lot! Wonderful commentary, production value, musical performances and demonstrations really illustrate and present the system in an engaging way. Thank you!

[@EytschPi42]

thank you so much!

[@jamowallace]

This is by far my favourite gear channel 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@michaelhefford6420]

I loved the video, you are very funny. I was a little surprised though at your misunderstanding of the Tome-match preset vs level. I can only assume it is maybe because your level of understanding of more complex studio systems is greater than most and you are looking at it wrong or differently than us normal humans. lol . Overthinking it maybe. I am literally a dummy when it comes to connecting audio equipment, but I found this really quite easy and simple to connect and understand. It made sense. I do really like the QR code on the back idea though, if Bose don’t do that, I’ll be disappointed.

[@cryptowalls]

WOW just WOW!! absolutely great review!!!!! most of us wouldn't even have use for that ear looking thing you recorded with lmao yet we experienced it..thank you

[@sidvicioux]

that's a really nice tune and great performance.

[@GuitarTabsDaily]

I use mine with my pod go all the time and sing through it. Great solution for cafe, small weddings, etc.

[@marcmadler454]

Please longer Videos in the future! They are great!

[@ssgeek4515]

I'm not a musician can't play a note but listening to this its obvious the bose system is very revieling. The hf tones a tad sharp on full volume but a very imursive sound. Hope the bose synics are listening.Excelent production

[@dangershgol3298]

I use the bose L1 compact everywhere I play. One of the best investments I have made.

[@giancarlopaolini7529]

I was planning to buy this some 10 years ago ..the idea was great at that time and still is today. yes ...

[@quanahthompson6000]

Very excellent review and how you point out the weak communication regarding just exactly what is being adjusted. A preset or what many would assume to be an open channel

[@PaulTillery]

Man. I am new to your videos. You are brilliant. Thank you for your hard work. 👍🏻👍🏻 oh and I play upright bass. Lol I think you just sold me on a Bose. I was on the fence till I heard the bass.

[@madness8556]

This should have at least 4 mic/line inputs like competing systems such as EV Evolve 30M and 50M, RCF Jmix8 and Yamaha Stagepass 1K has 3 mic/line inputs. The LD Systems Maui 5 GO has the advantage of battery power but couldn't compare with the likes of the Pro8 or Evolve 30M in terms of raw power and sound quality. The LD Systems Maui 5 /11/28G2 do require an external mixer but then again, that's not a big deal. Something like a Bose T4S would add a lot to the Pro8 but the price would then go up considerably!

[@PaulSinnema]

At 15:53 a message is shown saying that XLR will always go through the Mic Preamp. Later (and also on the Bose site) you say to output the mixer with XLR. I'm confused. If I connect the mixer via XLR to the Bose it will alway go through the Mic Preamp? Or will it not do that if I set the 'Tone match' to 'Off'?

[@eddiepolen3718]

Yeah I liked the way you explained and with some humor make it interesting to hear. I’ve got two L1. The hook together from line in line out. This L1 pro 8 only has on crazy. But needs like you said Improvements. And this is how they get Improvements our comments thanks

[@MarvMachura]

Love the song ! Cool.

[@1Greydad]

Could you please mention recording from the pro 8 using line out? I am not a studio recording professional, I just want the Bose sound out to evaluate my singing with a track. What would you recommend for this old beginner?

[@gair1944]

Very good info. I own a Pro8 after using a Bose L1 Compact for years. The Pro8 is definitely an upgrade. Its not perfect but for my solo/Duo and Wedding band-is needs, it is ideal, musical, easy to carry, reasonably priced, and has more features than the L1 Compact. Home Run! I need to get a Modeler like a Helix. I did a gig at a Vineyard yesterday. Brought a Fender Deluxe Reverb and another pedal board for Electric. What a Pain in the but. I could have stayed on Acoustic, or if I wanted to play electric, I could use a Helix for those songs when I switch to my Tele instead of Acoustic. *But ...I would have to Re-EQ and know what settings to quickly set for the Helix. Hmmm

[@Daniel.S.Hypnotist]

Which is the one where the empty columns has speakers in them please

[@Androcentus]

Awesome review and funny guy! Love it!. Curious how is this compared with JBL MK2? Thanks brother!

[@DalvirSinghNarula]

Love the review, I use a harmonium (mic will be shared while singing and playing and another mic on the tabla). Was initially thinking about getting the S1, after seeing ur review. I’m getting this for sure. Quick question, since it will be at my home only. Can I also attach it to my tv via analog? How’s the sound quality you think?

[@EytschPi42]

you can try it, buit it is a mono system and I'd rather get a good surround sound system for the TV

[@IAmKAZMO]

This was sold out at Best Buy... I purchased the F1 Flex Array instead... I'm beyond excited 😊

[@NicholasANappiNick]

I have the compact there are things they did I like but still room for improvement.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@liamnaughton7996]

One thing I’d like to know is. When you finish your gig and turn it off, will the settings be in the same place, when you turn it back on at your next gig.

[@MusicTherapyLaz]

I watching this even though I don't need one if these... am I crazy? Oh yeah..m I'm one of the "Nutsoes"... 😆 Happy Monday Henning my man! 😎🎸✌️🎹🐦

[@vzeller]

Is the line out post gain or pre gain?

[@ronedwards8239]

I use 2 of these in Stereo with backing tracks.

[@TM-xr4yv]

Awesome demo man! Which model guitar did Rafael use to do this ???

[@566hank]

With a band of 2 acoustic guitars and a mandolin, with all three artists singing…would you recommend each person using one of these each, or just plug a mixer into one? Also, how would you expect this devise to perform in an outdoor setting?

[@EytschPi42]

Definitely use a mixer. It will perform well outdoor, just not on the rain. You might also want to look at Komboaudio

[@Vanhalen1]

I love the original L1 simplicity much better. The knobs were on top easy access. Plug in and go. Bose is notorious for high end

[@PierreChalifour]

Awesome Review. Came for the review, Subscribe for the content. Thank you ! Would you recommend for 2 vocals + Bluetooth Backing Tracks ?

[@EytschPi42]

Yes!

[@LuisJacob366]

Very unbiased and good review. Well plastic helps with weight indeed and it’s an instrument and not a tank. I like the timing of review too I laught and agree a few things too

[@IanNicholasMusic]

Can you plug an in ear monitor monitor straight to the amp

[@arnelmagallon]

what's the brand and model number of your mic stand?

[@cdmpilots]

I got the 16, I love it..

[@PaulvanHuet]

That was awesome. Great review. Thank you very much. Would you be willing to tell us which brand and type of mic stand you used for the singer songwriter setting.

[@EytschPi42]

Triad Orbit

[@juliorives6107]

I just bought mine and when I plug the microphone and guitar cables I hear a little noise like rain coming out,is that normal???and I also can’t turn the volume of the microphone Up all the way because it makes flyba,mighty that be because of the size of the room??

[@sidween]

We use two L1 earlier models with seperate extention speakers. We run bass, elec. Drums, guitar with a j station, and sing, loud as you need for a small club also is the 32 speaker aray with the 4 chan mixer each side

[@herolz]

I have a problem with the bose l1 pro 8. I would like to use it only for speech reinforcement / lectures. The volume when speaking through the microphone is very quiet. No matter which microphone I use - I have to turn up the volume on the Bose so much that there is hissing and feedback. Am I doing something wrong or do you have any tips?

[@ivanfeaguirre]

Is it possible to use with the cab sim out of a Orange Terror Stamp in the same way you used your Helix? It would be great if you could demo this PA with the Pod Go, HX Stomp, GT 1000core, etc.

[@djcalvin681]

Thx for review

[@vacosta8888]

He nailed the song. Killer!

[@209rc7]

Which is better? L1 model 2 or this one?

[@stevenjaywalters]

Good review. Thank you. Question: I'm thinking of using this for my acoustic gigs, but I'd like to use a small Soundcraft mixer so I can have more control. Could I plug my little 8 channel mixer into the Bose system input and run everything from there? Thanks for your reply.

[@EytschPi42]

yes, that will work.

[@stevenjaywalters]

Thanks for your reply. My only withhold is there's no mid control. As an acoustic player, a mid adjustment is almost essential. I can take out a bunch of mids with my Baggs Para DI, but I still might want to pull some out from the PA as well.

[@robertfisher4969]

I'm a singer using tracks from Android Samsung tablet with Alto Bluetooth Total connecting music. Also SM58 connected with Xvive U3 for Cordless vocals. Would this do the job for me? Maybe going to Bose L1 Pro16? Thank you for video!!

[@katherineburghard7972]

Great review. I also use a Helix Line 6. Could you describe what you had to do to set it up via Tone match. I saw you selected the "preset = Inst", but what selection did you make in the Tone match list? Thank you

[@EytschPi42]

pod2

[@katherineburghard7972]

​@@EytschPi42 Thank You. Did you happen to use/ try the L1 Pro16. I am considering that one, but don't know if it is too much given your review.

[@jimtalltheislandbrothers6639]

Does it come with a cover for the bass bin?

[@EytschPi42]

no

[@ParaBellum2024]

If this was used instead of a traditional PA for vocals in a small band setting, with an acoustic drummer and a guitarist and bass player with their own amps, how would it fare? Set to the low-ish volume you recommend, would the other instruments overpower it, or would the sound balance vary throughout the room?

[@EytschPi42]

you can get a balanced sound, I‘m sure

[@violao206]

"Nobody should have Gibson, like ever... they're just not nice people." LOL, truth in advertising. Viva Chibson!

[@scottharris5652]

Anyone used this with external mixer that isn't Bose mixer? If so I have a Midas XR 18 would i just plug in channel 1 and choose line or choose off? thinking about getting the pro 16 would love some suggestions. Thanks

[@jazzland69]

Hi can i used an external mixer on this model?The original sound it will not change ?Thanks

[@EytschPi42]

yes

[@cassiusjb]

I could get two Maui 11s for about the same price. Plus the wooden box would have a better sound. I don't care about the FX or the extra weight.

[@madness8556]

The Mauis are very nice sounding speakers. I have a pair of Maui 5 GOs and the Maui 11s are a big step up from them.

[@briandevitt6903]

I loved how you put poor Leslie at the bottom end coming up stairs...........taking all the weight. You owe her a big Christmas present this year HP......something shiny and expensive I'd say.

[@stevepovey2489]

How is the sound quality compared with the S1 Pro?

[@EytschPi42]

I have no idea... for that I would have to have an S1 Pro, which I don't.

[@jiniboobo402]

Huge differences

[@davetube2ful]

can you use a mixer with it and turn the volume up and use a mixer to set levels

[@EytschPi42]

yea

[@diujay]

Can I connect any mixer to bose l1 pro ??

[@EytschPi42]

yes

[@diujay]

@@EytschPi42 thank you sir

[@kmjansen]

Hey great video! Couldn't you have just set the XLR output on the helix to instrument level to match the Bose? Problem solved.

[@EytschPi42]

yeah, but level was not the problem… the labels are not related to level

[@kmjansen]

a@@EytschPi42 Gotcha! I wasn't sure if the problem was just the ToneMatch label or the combination of that with the input level. Thanks for clarifying. Cheers!

[@kxmrock]

I miss the "Woo!" at Beginning of the videos, lol I would probably use a lil Electrolytic grease at all the speaker/tower connections

[@kxmrock]

Rafael is Excellent Singer

[@ZitherBeast]

I have a need to have that shirt..."That is bad ass.... good lord you are hilarious

[@rajeshcreations359]

Good job

[@professionalprocrastinator8182]

That song sounds very similar to, ‘Walking in Memphis’ 😁

[@jackpodram]

wow... the bass play, I didn't know...

[@ronedwards8239]

I don’t like the crappy case for the sub and line array. They should make a separate padded cover for the Sub.

[@evandijk1983]

Henning please give that poor Raph some food the guy is skinny 😅

[@jon-nolanacousticsingerson9920]

11/04/2020 - Greetings: Please allow me to express my thoughts on the Bose L1 Pro8 and why I decided to return it. Background: I am a singer/guitarist playing mostly at wineries. I owned a Bose L1 Model II and loved it. But when the new models starting being advertised I wanted to upgrade. But, as usual with Bose, they were not available yet. In the USA, the units have been slow hitting the market. Bose has a nasty habit of marketing their new products but when a buyer wishes to purchase the unit it is not available and no one is sure when they will be arrive at the store. That is simply not the way I would do things. As a performing musician, and if you as a manufacturer are going to advertise an item, have it ready to purchase the moment you begin your advertising campaign. As it stands, I resent the fact I have wait until God knows when to make the purchase. That said, The Pro 8 finally came to Guitar Center. I drove 100 miles to make the purchase. It is a little small for the venues I've play at but I thought this would be a nice system for some of the smaller locations I would be working at. The box is very strange looking but it works fine, when I opened the box and examined the system it seemed very cheaply made and would be easy to damage if I would not careful. The plastic tower is by far, something one must be very careful handling. The first order of business, the instructions says; before you start using the system, upgrade the firmware. OK not problem but wait the unit requires a USB-C cable which I did not have. Well sir, I had to go out and buy one. Once I got the thing update, I played with the unit and the Tone Match presets which was a bit of a pain, the Blue Tooth was not as reliable as I had hoped and the sound was fair/OK. It was nothing to write home about. I finally decided to use my ToneMatch TS4 which brought the unit up to what I expected. OK, OK the ToneMatch is amazing unit but without it I was not impressed with the Pro8. After about one hour I decided this was not something I wanted to keep. Also, there was not cover for the bass speaker. I would have to purchase one. Really Bose!? plasticclosingeven that unit has me concerned. If you look at the base of the unit it is very small and could, with the towers in place, tip over easily compared to the L1 Model II. But according to Bose, they insist it is not. Well, that is easy to say if you're in studio environment and not subject to people walking up to the stage to talk to you, especially after three or four glasses of wine. Guitar Center as of date of the writing still does not have the Pro32. So, when it does arrive I will give it a try and if I decided my fears are correct, I will repurchase the L1 Model II. Just food for thought.

[@EytschPi42]

thank you so much for your thoughts as someone who uses these things in the field. I really hope Bose reads this and learns from it.

[@jon-nolanacousticsingerson9920]

@@EytschPi42 Thank you sir

[@mfhoopin]

Are you comparing to the 16 or just the 32? The 32 concerns me that it has the controls on the ground which are not only harder to get to but also more at risk for spills than the location higher on the sub of the 16.

[@maxxleonard9399]

The unit has same tonematch settings as mixer ! How many yt videos have you seen where the system is falling over ?! Cheaply made?? Do you use it as a bat in softball????? I'm tired of you people bitching that it doesn't way 150lbs and it "feels strong" I mean , explain yourself !!!! "It feels cheaply made" ..... what the hell does that mean ?????

[@maxxleonard9399]

@@EytschPi42 learns what ?? That people make useless comments About Bose marketing strategies.... that bose should micro manage salespeople at gc to assure they are updating firmware for buyers that Are going to blame bose..... To trust all random commenters who say the Bose engineers screwed up with the on board tone match because this clown says so..... Come on

[@SonDownKid]

Love Love LOVE YOUR GUITAR SOLO...!!❤❤

[@olliepriddey1161]

Very tinny sounding in vocals.

[@SergoKazmir]

Ok, like

[@kainagami]

Didn't this video came out already? What's going on? xwx Anyway, that's a cool thingy to make noise

[@EytschPi42]

I had to make some changes

[@kainagami]

@@EytschPi42 oh ok, Thank you ❤️

[@TeofilzKatowic]

"I'm not the church guy, trust me". XD

[@Vanhalen1]

Drunks love to swing on the columns

[@CalvinKleinManzano]

that cheap plastic connector to the array via subwoofer is woobling, it's not secure. design FAILED.

[@Jflux69]

Maybe after covid we'll see the party seen.

[@EytschPi42]

hmmm.... what party scene?

[@Jflux69]

@@EytschPi42 The one you cut.

[@njdenney69]

Lewitt microphones have always been notoriously "trebley" and once again particularly evident here :(

[@josearaujo8616]

Should include 3 wireless systems so you minimize cables

[@chroek7755]

Das Problem der unnötigen Lautstärke ist doch darin begründet dass man sich im Bandkontext selbst nicht hört. So dass jeder sich immer etwas lauter macht und am Ende hört man immer noch nix richtig, hat aber einen irrsinnigen Geräuschpegel und einen Gehörschaden.

[@PaulSinnema]

Singer is very good. But he should have tuned his guitar better.

[@marcmadler454]

first

[@christopherAwaite]

Fingies lol

[@mervolicious]

You know too much for this system. The target group understands perfectly fine what Tone Match means (because they fuckin read the manual and adverts) and they only use the preset for the instrument they use (mic/guitar/aux source). Trust me, I am doing sound on the side for smallest kind of venues and gigs and I bought two L1 Compact for our own venue so the typical L1 user feels at home. Singer/songwriter artists almost always have such a thing (ot two) plus the overpriced mixer and they just do what the manual says. You are way too informed and think way too complicated for this kind of system. Bose will learn and not send you any shit anymore :D

[@mervolicious]

Oh and I gotta add: No, XLR is not the "professional" way to connect something. XLR is just another way to connect a balanced signal. Same thing can be achieved with a balanced 6.5mm TRS plug. Therefore the combo TRS/XLR connectors do work fine with either. What you cannot do is connect a stereo signal to this kind of connectors, although the 6.5mm stereo jack is technically the same but the signal isn't. For that you would have to use the AUX-in stereo mini jack ;)

[@Scott__C]

@@mervolicious I agree, I've connected line level or mic level with XLR and also with 6.5mm TRS. Also saying it's the professional way but then saying people won't know how to operate it are at odds. I got an L1 about 6 years ago and it wasn't a problem. Other mixers won't have an off setting and they won't say Tone Match above them. People who know nothing about sound are going to have issues no matter what they're presented with.

[@jeantovern3918]

Ugh you lost me…😞