Garmin BaseCamp™ Modifying Routes

[@lenluksa326]

Tim, I guess one of the reasons you"ve created your excellent video content and series is because Garmin hasn't. You provide so much more understanding and clarity than Garmin has in their resource materials.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thank you.

[@banksjim]

Can't tell you how many times I've come back to your Basecamp videos for help. I'm just not in Basecamp enough to remember all it's nuanced route making features. But when I need to make a route, the instructions and tips in your videos are invaluable. THANK YOU for making these!

[@rega3160]

TIm, I have followed your first four videos and they are super. I have learned so much! You have gotten me over the hump of fear of using BaseCamp. Thank you so much. Reg

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@platvis379]

Very good. Thank you

[@timsnyder2175]

Thanks for watching.

[@redcanoe2637]

Best Base Camp tutorials I have come across, thank you Tim

[@timsnyder2175]

Thank you, and thanks for watching.

[@wflentge]

Thanks again!

[@EZMotoTim]

Again, thanks for watching.

[@tomdavis3111]

I was so frustrated trying to use the Garmin videos. Good job on making using Basecamp a lot easier then the Garmin folks.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@jimmarshall807]

Thanks again Tim, very useful.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thank you for watching and commenting. It helps the channel and improves the chance that others will see the videos.

[@odowdski]

Excellent video! I have used Basecamp for years, and still learned more useful tips here!

[@jamesw9803]

What a great tutorial. Thanks so much for spending the time and effort for explaining this "six-left-thumbs" of a computer program for Garmin. They should be compensating you well.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@richardhaas1989]

I am sorry but I forgot which video it was you discussed Joining Tracks and you mentioned the Erase separate tracks Yes or No panel. I too saw that the separate tracks were not erased. I realized that is because I working directly from the memory on my Device. When I moved the files to Basecamp's file area on my hard drive and worked (JOINED) them there, they erased the single tracks just fine.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@laosgpsmapmidnitemapper9411]

Excellent information, especially the Hover over route to see distance from Start!! And more great tips and Thanks

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@leapinglizardsmusicllc4914]

Thank you for making the Garmin Basecamp video series.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@jimcowles8920]

Tim, thank you so much for clarifying so many of the mysteries of BaseCamp with this video. This is the first of your videos that I've seen. I've wrestled with BaseCamp a few times in the past, but felt that it was much too un-user-friendly to waste so much time on trying to figure it out on my own. Even trying to read Garmin's attempt at documenting their program made it even more frustrating. I very much appreciate your taking the time to explain the proper use of shaping points. Garmin's own BaseCamp manual only mentions shaping points once and it falls abysmally short of explaining what they are and how to use them. In your video, after you tweaked a route the way you wanted it (Alt + click and move), you mentioned adding more shaping points. I watched you do it, but at first didn't realize that you moved your mouse ever so slightly to make the "rubber band" visible, which is necessary for creating additional shaping points. On my first attempt, I did as you said, but not as you did. I held down the Alt key, then clicked my mouse and nothing happened. No shaping point was created. Then I went back and watched your nearly imperceptible movement of the mouse to accomplish that task. You may want to embellish that fact in another of your training videos for clarity. Something else very frustrating about Garmin's software is that it renames streets with its own naming scheme. A street with a second name of Crossing is known as Xing to Garmin. It's as if they intentionally make their products almost impossible to use until you learn their specific nuances. In this short (for BaseCamp) video of yours, you've filled in many missing gaps in my understanding of how to use this previously frustrating tool and I successfully created my first route for my GPS unit that will go the way I want it to without it having a mind of its own! It was especially helpful to learn how to get rid of those doggonned Interstate U-turns! Thank you very much!

[@EZMotoTim]

This is just one of about 20 videos I've done on BaseCamp. I recommend you watch all of them in order. At the top of the description you'll see a link, "Garmin BaseCamp Tutorials" which brings up the playlist. You can also easily find the videos on my website at ezmototim.com/basecamptutorials/ As always, thanks for watching.

[@Skyggedansss]

excellent job mate !

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@HillCountryDemo]

Super helpful. Thanks for posting. Can’t understand why Garmin does not creat this kind of content??????

[@seanb1081]

Brilliant info. Thank You!

[@kukmica6422]

Thank you so much!👍

[@EZMotoTim]

You are welcome! Thanks for watching.

[@Si_in_Finland]

Thank you very much for taking the time to make this series of excellent videos

[@EZMotoTim]

You're welcome and thanks for watching.

[@volvogt21]

Great video. I fumble my way through basecamp once yearly for an annual trip. Your video will make this process quicker. The way points or shaping points on the wrong side of the road (or in my case usually in a paddock next to the road) is a trap for the inexperienced. Your explanation of how to centre and check each of the points will make life way easier for me. I'm not sure if you have covered the thrill of trying to share routes with friends for use on their garmin units that have different map versions or routing preferences set differently. That's another trap for newbies. Thanks again.

[@EZMotoTim]

I'm glad BaseCamp is working for you. Thanks for watching.

[@atomx111]

thanks for these videos. If you're historically a google maps user, switching to Garmin can be overwhelming. But now that I'm getting used to Garmin and Basecamp, I'm beginning to prefer it. Much more control over my routes and I love that I don't have to rely on cellular signals when out riding!

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@anthonypotocnik1324]

This series of basecamp is invaluable, as a newbie to basecamp Iam so enjoying your videos, albeit Iam a slow learner, that said the ability to return to your videos for a refresher is a great help, thanks Anthony

[@timsnyder2175]

I'm glad you find the videos helpful. Thanks for watching.

[@philiplaurell1163]

I'm really grateful that you did those videos. They have been a tremendous help, even though I have used Basecamp for years, I never had the patience to really deeply immerse myself in it. Also I used it on my Apple computer and it seems to me Garmin did the Apple version with the left hand just to be able to say they have an Apple version out there. Well, it sucks so much compared to the pc version. So much so that I bought a pc for this purpose allone. Also because I don't want to bring the pricey Mac book pro on long motorcycle journeys. It's all coming together for me now. Thanks a lot. Some feedback: the sound quality of your videos needs some attention.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for the tip on the audio and thanks for watching.

[@thewanderer8]

Another really helpful video.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@lkazanov]

Tim, I found this video, goes along with my prior question.....too bad that shaping points still have to be added to a route to force designed routing. It would have been amazing that a created route would "stick" as drawn. I have practiced locally and my DriveSmart 76 seems to "stick" without adding the additional shaping points.

[@EZMotoTim]

Yep. Remember, there are 2 separate compute engines - one on your computer in BaseCamp™ and one in your GPS. They may not calculate the route identically. The compute engines are dumb. They rely on us and shaping points to make them smarter.

[@SonyBravia-d9b]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@mikedeamer4837]

Tim, thank you very much, a great tutorial. i had almost given up on BaseCamp until I came across your videos. thanks for taking the time to create them. I am now easily creating my own routes with ease. Many thanks. Mike. UK

[@EZMotoTim]

I'm glad the videos are working. Thanks for watching.

[@LosPeregrinos51]

Me too!

[@toddlawrimore3577]

Thanks again! I use basecamp for bicycling as well as my car and motorcycle. Be sure to always designate the profile in the properties. It will calculate routes differently depending on your selection.

[@EZMotoTim]

Yes indeed. That's why Garmin included Activity Profiles. Thanks for watching.

[@ArcanePath360]

I finally gave in after giving up on this a few months ago, and decided to dedicate a Sunday afternoon to learning this horrible software. Thank you for simplifying as much as possible. I can finally modify my own routes and choose the best roads.

[@EZMotoTim]

Hang in there. Once you get over the hump you may find you like it. Thanks for watching.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@EZMotoTim I don't think I'll ever like it, as it runs so slow and is very cumbersome, however I can at least get it working now thanks to you. I've been relying on the satnav routing up until now but always wanted to select my own custom journey when I see some of the choices it makes are less than ideal.

[@ChrisSmith-is6mu]

this series is superb, I still don't understand why basecamp is so complicated and not user friendly, but these videos at least improved my knowledge of base camp substantially

[@EZMotoTim]

I think the difficulty stems from the fact that the developers chose to change what the left mouse button does for each icon function instead of keeping the left mouse button for dragging the map or route. Once you internalize switching among the icons BaseCamp becomes easier and you can discover its strengths. Thanks for watching.

[@Paughco]

Thank you for your videos. I have created routes using the insert route button and have found that sometimes the inserted waypoints are just a bit off from the road that I have chosen. As a final stage I zoom in really close on each waypoint to make sure that it is on exactly the intended road or intersection, and not inadvertently placed on in unintended sideroad or up a dead end. This is not a huge deal when I'm riding by myself, but I don't like that to happen when I'm leading a group, say, from Coeur d'Alene, ID to Yaak, MT. The pressure is definitely on then! Much better to take extra time when building the route on my PC!

[@EZMotoTim]

Exactly. Somewhere in my videos I explained the use of the Move Point icon/feature to put points exactly on the road. Thanks for watching.

[@motomium]

About exporting the .gpx file to the bike - I finished your basecamp videos and didn't see anywhere a mention of how to "import" the .gpx file on the gps itself. One of my sources of confusion as I try to understand how this works is what do I have to do once I have finished the 'send to device' FROM basecamp and then I turn on the Garmin gps. How to import? And what? Route? Track? Log? Thanks.

[@EZMotoTim]

You can export routes, tracks and waypoints. What you export is up to you. When you start up your GPS it should tell you it found new data and ask if you want to import it. You can manually import the data as well. The exact steps depend on the model of GPS, so read the manual. Once a route is on the GPS you can call it up and use it. (Again, the exact steps vary by model.) Thanks for watching.

[@h2onutz818]

Hey Tim, I enjoy your tutorials, in fact, I refer to them consistently. I do have a question. If you have a route going to points A,B,C and want to delete point C and make a new point to D, how would you do it?

[@luishcoreia]

Alt Key or using the insert point button is the same, right?

[@EZMotoTim]

Yes they are equivalent methods. Thanks for watching.

[@michaellynch2559]

Hi Tim, Can you help me with a screen scrolling question? When I first start creating a route I can scroll around the screen easily with the arrow keys on the keyboard. I can also zoom in and out with the plus and minus keys. However, once I click off the map to another command, etc, those functions are gone. Now I have to scroll and zoom using the compass wheel on the map which involves many single individual clicks and is much slower. Is there a way to return to the first method of scrolling and zooming? Thanks! Mike

[@EZMotoTim]

If you haven't done so already, take a look at my video on moving the map. Thanks for watching.

[@PeterJones-dx1lq]

Awesome videos Tim thank you!....can someone tell me why i don't always get the black line when trying to divide/split a route?

[@EZMotoTim]

The mouse has to be between two waypoints and close to the route. Move the mouse around until you see the line appear. Thanks for watching.

[@leebarroll]

I am feeling more and more comfortable with Basecamp.

[@EZMotoTim]

Stick with it; it grows on you. Thanks for watching.

[@leebarroll]

@@EZMotoTim I have a Garmin overlander. You got any tips or a video on transferring GPX files from Basecamp into the overlander?

[@EZMotoTim]

@@leebarroll No, I'm sorry, I don't. Can you connect your Overlander to your computer? Does BaseCamp see it when you have it connected to the computer? If BaseCamp can see it, you can copy routes and waypoints to it.

[@leebarroll]

@@EZMotoTim Yes it does. However, what is telling me I need to do is move it to Garmin Express and then have Garmin Express wirelessly connected to my? It's really complicated.

[@EZMotoTim]

@@leebarroll I think you mean Garmin Explore (web). With the XT you do not need to Copy to Explore and download. You can go directly from BaseCamp to the XT. I'll bet the Overlander works the same way. I'm planning videos on the Garmin device-phone-cloud architecture.

[@michaelgreen7374]

I've fumbled my way through using BaseCamp to navigate to every courthouse in 22 states plus many other trips. I stumbled across these videos by reading reviews for a new Zumo XT to replace my venerable Zumo 550s. Wow, this series of videos has been immensely helpful. Thank you.

[@EZMotoTim]

Thanks for watching.

[@wflentge]

Tim, does it make any difference, if so how, between loading a route to the Internal Storage vs. the SD card?

[@EZMotoTim]

No, it doesn't matter, but items added to the internal memory can't be deleted in BaseCamp.

[@wflentge]

@@EZMotoTim Thanks

[@wflentge]

@@EZMotoTim Bye the way, I did download 5 routes and load to my /19 Goldwing. All went well.

[@harleyjetdriver1957]

Hey Tim, I'm not exactly sure on what I have done. But, when changing the map, I used to take the hand tool, and holding ALT I could move the route. I clicked on something, and I can't remember what I click. But now, every time I click on the map, without holding the ALT button, the route changes. How do I get it back to the default setting. IE, holding down the ALT key to move the route. Thanks in advance.

[@EZMotoTim]

Does clicking the Hand icon work? These tutorials build on one another. I think you would have a much easier time by watching all of them from the beginning. You'll find them in order at ezmototim.com/basecamptutorials/ Thanks for watching.

[@rickgoforth9694]

@@EZMotoTim I have watched all of them. Some even 3 times.

[@EZMotoTim]

@@rickgoforth9694 Excellent! You may have clicked on the New Route icon. Returning to the hand icon returns to neutral mode.

[@avilegman4195]

'Halo Tim. When I try to connect 2 points, I get a straight line and not the road connecting them. What am I doing wrong?

[@EZMotoTim]

You probably have the Global Map selected (non-routeable) or your Activity Profile is Direct. Be sure to watch the General Setup Video. Thanks for watching.

[@victortavares9098]

Hi from Portugal, at minute 5.30 you said to put a way point after the turn to make sure the route goes this way! Why?? if the route goes left, after we put it in our GPS, the GPS is going to tell us turn left! why is necessary to put a way point after the turn? normally the GPS is going to tell us to turn left! Thanks and safe rides!!! (excuse my English)

[@eddieprice7540]

Good video but I wish you would show how to split or add an address location. For instance, you have decided to stop at a hotel for the night and will need to split the rout at the hotel or friend's address.

[@EZMotoTim]

1) Create a waypoint for the hotel or friend's address. 2) Open the route details window and insert the waypoint you just created. 3) Recalculate. 4) R-Click on the waypoint in the list and select Divide. Thanks for watching.

[@Riverfurm]

How do I re open my new route dialog box? I think I shut it down by checking the box. Great videos I am learning so much!

[@EZMotoTim]

Double click on the route on the map or double click on the route in the list. Thanks for watching.

[@Riverfurm]

@@EZMotoTim Thanks Tim but that did not work either.

[@EZMotoTim]

@@Riverfurm Very strange, but strange IA another word for Basecamp.

[@PdxMotor]

I don't know if this what you were asking ..... but in windows the shortcut key for New Route is "R"

[@randyshoop3214]

Great video’s but BaseCamp is still a challenge ! Trying to build a simple test route using a start and end waypoint. I then try to modify the generated route by dragging the route in a westerly fashion to a specific road vs the easterly direction BC wants to go in. It calculates my intended modification, but then wants to return to its original route by doing an “out and back “ . How do I get it to reroute using this new direction ? I have also found that modifying routes leaves unintended out and backs and circular patterns ( which sometimes you can’t even see unless the zoom is really high) which turn into caos when trying to ride the rout on the bike. Thanks for your reply. I would buy your new book as well I

[@EZMotoTim]

You may have more than one thing going on here, but let's fix the more important item and see where that leads. I suspect the loops are caused by points not being on the road or on the wrong side of a divided highway You _must_ check the location of each point in your route. Do this for every route without fail. Open the route details box. In the lower left, be sure "Center map" is checked. Click on each point in the list. BaseCamp will zoom in on the point automatically. Use the Move Point tool to put points where they belong. Remember to go back to the Hand icon (or press the H key) when you are finished aligning the points.

[@randyshoop3214]

Hey Tim, just tried the same Test Route and made only 1 modification to the BC generated route. Clicked on a westerly direction to a specific road. BC made the modification but again sent me back to the course BC generated. I opened the route detail box as you suggested ( Center map ✅) and with a highly focused view confirmed that the point was indeed on the road. I use Mac version of BC, do you think that would make any difference ? Incidentally, The Mac version does not have a + key in the route detail box to insert new waypoints to a route. That’s a nice feature !

[@EZMotoTim]

@@randyshoop3214 I don't have a Mac, so I can't answer for sure, but it seems unlikely such a basic feature isn't included. There is most likely a setting that is forcing the change. Check your Avoidances in the Route Options / Profile and other settings. I'm wondering if the Mac version has a "Protect" feature that prevents editing a route.

[@randyshoop3214]

@@EZMotoTim I’ll keep working it. Thk you

[@garrytempleman2214]

i make new way point add them do Garmin but how do i view them on the Garmin there not showing up...thx for any information !

[@EZMotoTim]

I'm sorry, there isn't enough information to answer this. This is a question for Garmin Support. Thanks for watching.

[@markhawkins5324]

What size SD card are you using?

[@ddm0719]

I'd like to see this video for Mac. I don't have an Alt key on my Mac

[@EZMotoTim]

Unfortunately I don't have a Mac. There are a few videos on KZbin using the Mac version of the program. Thanks for watching.

[@JEH-1020]

I have a bunch of old routes I created in Garmin MapSource. Can I load them into Basecamp? How?

[@EZMotoTim]

Yes, Export the routes as GPX files and import the files to BaseCamp.

[@JEH-1020]

@@EZMotoTim I ride a BMW R1200 GSA and do a lot of forest roads and off highway. I need to switch to Garmin TOPO 100K to get access to many of the remote roads. MapSource seems to handle these much better than Basecamp. Years ago Basecamp wasn't able to allow my routes to be emailed and shared with my riding associates. Thanks for the videos. They are helping. Does Basecamp support tracks? Going to do the Colorado BDR this summer and the path is downloaded as a track. Can the track be converted to a route so I can get voice directions. I use a Zumo 660.

[@EZMotoTim]

@@JEH-1020 Yes. See my video on importing from Google maps.

[@JEH-1020]

@@EZMotoTim I can't find an "Export" command in MapSource. How to convert to a .gpx?

[@EZMotoTim]

@@JEH-1020 I'm sorry, I don't have Mapsource loaded on my laptop and am out on the road for a couple of months. Try Googling it.

[@waltweaver7297]

Hi if you should ever decide to print a book or a paper manual for base camp I'd like to be the first person to purchase one.

[@EZMotoTim]

The thought crossed my mind. I used to love paper programming manuals when companies printed them. Thanks for watching.

[@waltweaver7297]

@@EZMotoTim I've subscribed to your youtube feeds months ago and have been contacting garmon more that I should about the gps and the base camp program. They recommended your youtube feeds to me yesterday. I only use my GPS on little two track roads with my utv or four wheeler or 4 wheel drive and for hiking mainly in Nevada. I think that you would sell quite a few manuals or maybe even garmin would put there name on them and sell them as your knowledge on this program is much better than there's. Please let me know if you decide to do this and I'll stop pausing the KZbin videos while writing my own notes. Thanks Walt

[@EZMotoTim]

@@waltweaver7297 Book projects are time-consuming as you can imagine. I'll have a couple of months to think about it as we are heading out on the road. We'll actually be riding the routes I planned!

[@XPLSV357]

Hitting the ESC key will immediately remove the rubber band.

[@EZMotoTim]

good to know. Thanks for watching.

[@ArchEmbler]

This software is fatally flawed. I have worked on learning it for over a YEAR. Every time I spend an hour creating a route, I get almost to the end and Basecamp "adds something" to my route that I can't remove. Countless times I have deleted and started over. Often it has me exiting and taking a five mile detour when there isn't even a waypoint telling it to do so. There are entire off ramps that it knows nothing about, and I have to refer back and forth to google maps to locate the offramp and then try to find it on basecamp. After going through all that minutia to have to destroy the whole thing and start over is more than discouraging. I've just about decided to put one waypoint in my GPS and let my unit pick the route, taking me God knows where. I've watched the videos, and his basecamp has different buttons than mine, although I have the latest version. If I had to describe Basecamp with one word it would be "unknowable."

[@EZMotoTim]

The key to your comment is that you don't have the same buttons I do. I explain how to turn the tool bars on and off in the General Setup video. I encourage you to watch my videos in order. Each builds on the previous. You'll find them listed in order at ezmototim.com/basecamptutorials/ Many of my viewers have found BaseCamp™ very knowable. Thanks for watching.

[@ralph4840]

Basecamp is a very good software, if the year is 2004. Otherwise, it beats me why anyone would deal with this crap.

[@EZMotoTim]

Obviously you haven't watched all my videos, but that's OK. Use whatever app you prefer.

[@mehogandhenry7132]

I just can't stick to a plan

[@jniemec]

Whoever designed Basecamp should be shot. Most every other mapping program I've tried is intuitive, especially Map source and Google maps. Can't believe they stick with this wonky system. Terrible!

[@EZMotoTim]

I used to think that as well, but now it comes naturally to me and I've discovered the power and usefulness of the program. On this summer's travels I was able to create routes when we didn't have internet access. Thanks for watching.

[@jniemec]

@@EZMotoTim I appreciate your knowledge on the Basecamp program but I would think you might agree that Mapsource is so much easier. All of the routes I create are motorcycle street rides so perhaps that’s why I have a bias. The one issue I have with Mapsource is that it sometimes crashes when creating routes in some of the Mid Atlantic area states. MD, KY are two. Garmin stopped supporting Mapsource but it works perfect for my needs. Just the simple dedicated + and - in the toolbar for zooming makes things so much easier!

[@timsnyder2175]

@@jniemec All the routes I create are for motorcycle street rides as well. I never got into Mapsource, so I don't have a comparison. Zooming is on the mouse wheel in BaseCamp. I'm not here to convert anyone, just make it easier for those who want to use it. Stick with what works for you.