F-14B Tomcat: Learning Dogfight Technique With Specialist (Vid 1 of 3) | DCS WORLD

[@justanoldvhs2785]

Hello everyone! I've taken some time and had read quite a bit of comments. I really appreciate the love coming from a lot of you guys and can't wait to do more with this community in the future! But I want to focus this comment primarily on some of the criticism from some of you guys. Some of it is productive and I'm willing to except that I was wrong and learn from it, after all this is a learning experience. The rest however seems to have a misunderstanding or have not grasp the point. So I'll get right to the "point". The whole point of this video was to give out material for new f-14 pilots in the SIM or people that have been discouraged to buy the f-14 due to its complexity or from what people have said about it's slow speed characteristics being difficult to handle compared to its competitors in a dogfight. A lot of this is technique developed in the SIM, there seems to be quite a bit of people that are criticizing the technique because it's not "textbook" at the end of the day this is a game. If this was real life this would be a completely different conversation. The goal was to show people that the f-14 flown in a certain fashion could take on the competition and for a lot of people this is very difficult. I know this is something that the textbook guys do not want to hear and I get that. But there is a big portion of the DCS community that either do not have the time or the "want" to follow the textbook because it's too difficult or they just want to have fun, mainly fun. There's so much more to talk about I'll cut it short and finish off with this. The goal was to share my experience/technique with the inexperienced to help with a demanding aircraft that requires a more advanced technique to fly especially at low speed. In the video CAP himself admits that he struggles with the aircraft at low speed. Throughout the video you see him progressively get better and enjoys the aircraft. In my book thats a mission complete! If you have any questions please drop a reply below 😁 I will try my best to answer. Again thank you for the feedback, both the positive and the negative.

[@TheCloudhopper]

That was one educational video. It's been a pleasure watching and listening to someone who knows how to fly the Tomcat. Thank you.

[@a-hvlogs2046]

Thanks for the help! - BeefCakes

[@psyph3rscollection288]

Just came on to thank GR for the video and most especially you, 'VHS', for all the wonderful tips for a wonderful favorite aircraft :D I like how you backseat instruct. You don't panic for no reason (like some of my past Rios) and you present the information well. It's great for all of us to push our boundaries and know 'what/when we don't know' ;) So, Thank You! :) 'You can be my wingman anytime!'

[@swe-timberwolf3642]

Great video, learned a lot from it :-)

[@voradfils]

I thought everybody should see what IronMike (one of the Heatblur developers) had to say on the matter (link in the next comment): "Please take the educational value of exploits taught in this video with a grain of salt. Undersweeping wings without penalty is possible only due to a damage model that is still WIP. This will most likely get adressed in the next patch (after the coming one), and will add huge penalties in drag and possible permanent damage of flight surfaces. Also the flaps being deployed above 250 kts is still being tweaked on - and while they were used irl and indeed add a significant boost below 250kts they should not be used above that speed at all. While I do not intend to point fingers with my comment, it was always a bit our fear that DCS-isms in general (dumping fuel in BFM) or us still working on the damage model (wings underswept at high speeds, flaps above 250kts) could lead to misconceptions or wrong perceptions of the FM as is often the case in this video and thus teach a somewhat "wrong" way to fly the Tomcat. That is of course not the player's fault, but ours. Learning to master her ins and outs especially in turns using rudders to prevent roll reversal, keeping her stable and being able to "read the speed off the airframe", holding speed at certain Gs (and not always at 9), as well as knowing when to slow and when to use the flaps (shortly in an emergency or not at all) will stand the proof of time as the damage model will continue to get more complex in such cases, as much as DCS allows. It is entirely possible to dominate with it, without using such game related exploits. Again, the blame here is entirely on us, our apologies for that. (Note: this is a general remark/advice free of judgement and not meant to spark a discussion about the content creator. It is up to the player ofc if he wants to use exploits or not. It is our job to prevent them.)"

[@markeldamgaard]

Anyone else find this super fascinating?

[@SomaFlly]

affirmative

[@murasamekaini8786]

Correct

[@colinc5252]

markeldamgaard feels like watching top gun

[@kibathemechanic4967]

I tell you what!

[@LupusAries]

@@kibathemechanic4967 Aff Starcommander! ;)

[@AndyAttrition]

everyone how flies the Tomcat has to recognize what a fantastic pilot VHS is. Awesome!!!! That was really educational and entertaining. Thx to the reapers for the vid and a thousand thanks to VHS for the insight he shared.

[@grimreapers]

Amen

[@deadshot4245]

The best I’ve seen on controlling it I just got it two days ago over the f-18 I wanted to learn an aircraft without fly by wire first. Do the opposite of what everyone else does usually. Plus to me f-14 has always been a favorite jet of mine alongside the sr-71 blackbird

[@vvcv__00]

A fantastic pilot? Well, I can't say for sure, but yeah, he may be a pilot -I don't know. But what I do know is that he is not a good F-14 pilot, he is only good at a 'game' that has something in it called "F-14". Sorry to sound brutal, but that is the way of things.

[@AndyAttrition]

@@vvcv__00 I dont give an F if u think the term Pilot is fitting or not, Karen.

[@joost1120]

@@vvcv__00 cringe

[@KLRGT500KR]

Wow! VHS knowledge of the F-14 and its energy state with respect to the wing geometry and how to manipulate to get best turn rate vs best acceleration, is simply mind blowing. In a way, he confirms a lot of what I knew that F-14 is a very honest fighter. It relies a lot on the pilot to do the hard work, but because it is mechanically controlled it gives the pilot so much more control over pitch, yaw, angle of attack etc. that if someone with VHS knowledge can exploit the F-14 to the limits far more than anyone with F-18 or F-16 can. The 3v1 of VHS in the F-14 vs 3 F-16s and he took down all three F-16s was both rewarding to watch and also really made me proud of the F-14. It is truly a masterpiece and DCS has modelled very accurately. Great work. Would love to see more of VHS dogfights with F-14.

[@hdpilot4052]

at the end of december 2019 the heathblure-cat turned sustained ~ 2 degrees per second faster, than in the 55620pounds/5000feet chart at 300KIAS DCS didn´t modelled the cat

[@KLRGT500KR]

@@hdpilot4052 So you are saying DCS did not model it acurately? Trying to understand the point.

[@hdpilot4052]

@@KLRGT500KR 1. Its not from DCS 2. Yes, it is far away from accuracy

[@KLRGT500KR]

@@hdpilot4052 Not sure about the change in DCS v2, but the VP of Grumman/Designer of the F-14 Tomcat said in his seminar, the F-14 could turn up to 24 degree/second turn rate depending on the load factor. The F-14 model in DCS from what I have read from actual F-14 pilots, is very accurate.

[@fastwing3295]

@@KLRGT500KR DCS Isn't a Developer. DCS is a Platform. That's what the guy was trying to tell you. DCS, The Platform, was made by Eagle Dynamics, aswell as some Aircraft like the Su-25T, TF-51 and the F-5. The F-14 is not made by Eagle Dynamics, but Heatblur Simulations.

[@LotionSoronarr]

My love for the Tomcat just keep increasing. such an awesome, legendary airframe.

[@wgaswyt]

"don't jerk that stick...keep pulling her tighter..., until you start feeling her vibrate." I was thinking about the Tomcat in that turn fight the whole time, not sure what you were thinkin.

[@psyph3rscollection288]

LOL, as soon as your quote started ;P

[@Salty_reviews]

Are we still talking about airplanes?

[@scoutworks]

I absolutely LOVED watching this and learned a bunch of stuff. Thank you VHS for allowing the Reapers to tag along with you on what was basically the "VHS beating people with a big stick" show. The Tomcat has always been my favourite airplane and seeing it compared to the flight characteristics of my second favourite airplane, the Spitfire, was pretty cool! Alright, that's enough KZbin for now, time to go beat the wings off some Migs.

[@Aeronaut1975]

This quite literally arrived the day I decided to start learning dogfighting in the Tomcat. Thank you.

[@jamieeast4974]

keep that brain "active" !

[@michaeldenesyk3195]

This was a great segment CAP and Team. This also adds credence to specializing on one airframe, or at most 2. Mastering that airframe and its systems and training others.

[@linusa2996]

Having a live RIO really helps a lot. Reminds me of a scene from the Speed And Angels documentary where Lt. Meghan Varley was learning to fight in the F-14 and her instructor was giving her instructions and warnings as she fought. If anyone want's to look up that movie, pay attention to the Varely's female RIO/Instructor when she gets to the carrier, she sounds like the actress from Chasing Amy.

[@gvii]

What he's talking about here isone of the reasons I love the Tomcat. It's one of the last of the aircraft the pilot is in control of, not the computer. The F-16 was the first of the negative or relaxed stability fighters. It's natural tendency is to fly backwards, so without the computer making thousands of little corrections every second, it would flip around and tear itself apart in the airstream. I really love the F-16, I love it to death. But it doesn't go unnoticed that I'm not actually flying it. I'm moving the stick, the computer translates my inputs and tells the plane what to do. So I really appreciate the WWII and WWI pilots for what they could do. If you want a really good read, read about Werner Voss' final dogfight in 1917. He was friends Richthofen and I think maybe even would have bested him in a one on one dogfight. He also clearly had discipline problems, but I guess that's not terribly surprising. But reading some of the thing he did in his Fokker F.1(Prototype of the DR.1 Triplane) in that last fight, as confirmed by the British pilots that survived the fight, are just mind melting. The man really knew his machine. This is a great video, full of really useful info. That's one of the reasons I love watching Growling Sidewinder so much. There's a wealth of info to be had in each of his videos, as there is here for those looking to pick up the Tomcat.

[@MrRolnicek]

Problem is, inherently unstable flat out means it's more manouverable. So we're never going back to fighter jets that can be controlled by something as slow as humans. In fact I doubt pilots will be sitting in cockpits much longer at all. Piloting is just one of the things computers are much better suited for than humans.

[@gvii]

@@MrRolnicek I only said I prefer the older aircraft, I never said they were better.

[@MrRolnicek]

@@gvii Yea, you prefer them. But their time is over. We won't see them come back into fashion. That's what I meant.

[@heydonray]

@@MrRolnicek Are you a pilot? I am. There are some things that computers can do better than humans, but the list of reasons pilots will be in airplanes (including fighters) is too long to list here. I will just summarize by saying that the AI isn’t even close yet.

[@MrRolnicek]

@@heydonray Yea, it's not "close" yet, I agree with you on that one (I'm only a sim pilot and a shitty one at that on the other hand I've made a few AIs). What I mean is that computers are better SUITED for the job than humans (although eventually I expect it will turn out they are better suited for every job). I would also like to disagree with the statement that they aren't close in a certain way. I expect it will be no more than one or two generations of fighters before we see a mainstream one operated remotely. AKA AI flies realtime with a remote pilot, gunner and captain doing the "human" work.

[@potatopower707]

I love the way he glorifies the tomcat, he makes every single thing feel so powerful about the tomcat. A great teacher!

[@davidwebb9561]

Being aviation fan for over 30 years and flying many sims, this is the most knowledgeable input I have ever came accross. VHS is really a master of ACM art, real F-14 Yoda.

[@tombstone4362]

Maybe one of the most interesting vids you have done. Will apply

[@SeminarChauffeur]

Man, I feel like a student at TOP GUN listening to VHS. I hope I can see him demonstrating his tactics against an F-15 that he mentioned somewhere in the session

[@SeminarChauffeur]

I wish I could ask him why GS lost twice to a Hornet in a Tomcat

[@jamesnorth7318]

@@SeminarChauffeur GS?

[@theluckyscav3487]

@@jamesnorth7318 Growling Sidewinder

[@Carlos27thFS]

Well I can tell you this, he lost to this F-15 every single time in the just dogfight server. Carlos out. Oh and I was yawning during the fight.

[@psyph3rscollection288]

@@Carlos27thFS Many still have to push the boundaries of their given aircraft :)

[@HEATER_]

No matter how many times I watch this, I am still amazed at the skill of this DCS F14 driver (VHS)! I'm just getting back into the kitty and am looking forward it! Thanks GR and VHS for posting this video! Cheers.

[@Gripen90]

What a fandamntastic educational video on the F14 in DCS. Great job CAP, VHS and the whole team.

[@tommypartin6431]

This is an amazing and far underrated video. I’ve been doing combat sims since I was a wee lad- I have more hours than I can accurately count logged in everything from BMS and IL2 to XPlane and MSFS. Needless to say when this module came out, I was elated. And rushed to buy it as soon as it was available. Despite all of my experience in simulators, this module absolutely kicked my butt at the onset. Because of the same points VHS makes in this video, I was flying like an F-16 pilot. “On rails”. The techniques discussed in this video are invaluable. I can’t wait to get back into DCS and try some of this out. A bit of practice, and those MiG 29‘s aren’t gonna have anything on me and Jester. 😎🤘🏻

[@deetwodcs4683]

This was really informational and fun to watch Cap actually DO it! That's how powerful a good coach is. He should sell lessons or something, when I get some money on the side I would gladly buy a lesson from this guy! This guy as your RIO and you will dominate every fight.

[@topgun5054]

So I actually know a former Tomcat crew member and asked him about the use of flaps in the cat during ACM. His answer was .... the use of flaps was forbidden. However. He did know of some pilots who would occasionally use maneuver flaps in order to win. :)

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@phelens4781]

What fuses are you referring to if you don't mind? I agree with your statements!

[@danvercillo]

Sheeeeeeeet Super Cap looked good out there. I loved this training session. VHS is one heck of a teacher.

[@ruf01au]

just what i needed - learning the TOMCAT this weekend after learning on the f18 - what a beast of an aircraft - thanks so much for this vid

[@Tinus111]

Had the same issues as Cap, I could fly the Tomcat, BVR was no trouble, and shooting with AIM-9's was also not a real big issue, but I sucked at gunfighting, now I took the tips and tricks of VHS to heart, and now I'm picking bogeys off left and right with the Vulcan. I still have a long way to go to master the F-14, but it is rewarding to go head to head with a Su-27, and see him going down in a ball of flames after a few bursts of my gun.

[@doodoogtube]

YO!!! Best example on how to fly the F14 Tomcat in a dog fight on the internet. I knew everyone fears Tomcats because they couldn't turn with them but to actually see it done and done pretty well (by first timers using the manual flaps) is amazing. Imagine if they practiced for a week...they'd become Ninjas in the sky. Awesome video fellas!👍🏾👍🏾😎

[@xXwheezyownzXx]

I just got the f-14b module and love flying it! But this video right here has helped me tremendously! Thanks for the good info cap!

[@isaaccoote2874]

This was absolutely incredible. I love this aircraft and only recently obtained it and I must say thank you to you guys and your incredible guest. Not only for the hour and a half of awesome entertainment but everything I have learned and how blown away I have been by working on my application of this in process. Thank you guys!!!

[@VinylScratchBass]

I love hearing someone put into words the feeling of flying the Tomcat she really does talk to you when you fly her and if you learn how she moves shes unrivaled.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@dampsok]

VHS smokes me almost every damn time!

[@aztec0112]

Absolutely fascinating! Do more of this interviewing experts. Great video! 👍👍

[@nullterm]

This video is amazing. I watched half of it, jumped into a Tomcat to practice, and spar with a MiG… all the sudden I’m eating them for lunch. Game changed!

[@Power5]

That canopy bow in the F14, god damn it is so intrusive. Going to have to work on my TrackIR setup to see if I can get it so I can lean around. This was an absolutely amazing video. More of these would be sweet.

[@powerpower2819]

Oh hey there, I see you like the name Power too don't you :)

[@LotionSoronarr]

The canopy bow is probably the only bad thing about the F-14.

[@Power5]

@@powerpower2819 from my way back days when I drove an old Audi 5cyl

[@ghostrider1827]

Great Vid! I've always knew using your flaps in a dogfight with a Tomcat was instrumental. For those "textbook" fellas....Textbook doesn't always work as planned so improvisation aka, THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, will take you along way ESPECIALLY if your life truly depended on it in a tight situation.

[@cornbread5144]

*** I'm giving VHS a new Call Sign ... " Yoda " :)

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@psyph3rscollection288]

LOL

[@doodoogtube]

Word...UP! LOL😂😂😂😂

[@novajeff]

That was one of the best instructional videos I've seen. I feel like I should have paid admission for this. Thank you very much. I think we all learned something from this. Thanks again VHS!

[@kenhelmers2603]

Absolutely excellent! 'VHS' made statements in a manner that made sense to me on how to fly the F-14. Set your head back into the '60's and fly the plane ;) Can't hardly wait to watch the next two in the series!!!! THANKS

[@alexpitts7634]

seriously great video. Thanks VHS. I wish more people would fly the Tomcat and I think this video could help. Id love to have him back on to talk about RIO techniques for notching targets etc.

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

I worked on Tomcats as an AD3 in the Navy at Miramar, and on Enterprise, and Kitty Hawk. Awesome old plane. Fun Video guys, TY

[@bjovers1]

This is by far the most interesting, entertaining and comprehensive DCS video I've watched to date. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Great balls of fire!! 😁

[@btbarr16]

When he started talking about rolling, my first thought was using the rudder as well. If you watch Top Gun, when the F-14 is rolling you can clearly see it yawing in a corkscrew motion. I know it's a movie, but it makes sense. One thing he didn't mention was the differential life of the wings while yawing. Even when extended leading edge is still swept. Yawing changes the spanwise flow. So, instead of the air hitting the wing at an acute angle it hits it at a 90-degree angle which provides more lift on that wing and less lift on the other wing because the angle is even more acute. Basically, dumping more airflow down the length of the wing instead of over it. That's why he gets the impression of falling into the roll. That side of the aircraft is literally falling into the roll to a certain extent. Yaw too much and the fuselage blocks airflow at the wing root and spins can occur.

[@EUK007]

This video is fantastic I felt i was in a real combat fighter jet school.

[@SW-zu7ve]

I just hit the brakes and they fly right by. Never been beaten.

[@doodoogtube]

😂😂😂Stupid.👍🏾👍🏾✌🏾️

[@SW-zu7ve]

@@doodoogtube To dumb to get the joke?

[@astra7291]

S W probably

[@doodoogtube]

S W it was a perfect Top Gun reference...I was being sarcastic. 😎👍🏾👍🏾✌🏾

[@l.j.4577]

The view trouble is only a probem on Screen or in Desktop use..... Try it in VR, it‘s much better 💪

[@sandman89176]

My neck always starts hurting after a VR session

[@l.j.4577]

just extend your Workout and it will be fine. But i remember my first days with it :D

[@TheFelixLighter]

The flaps control on the actual Tomcat doesn't seem to be in a place where these type of adjustments would be practical in a real dog fight without the pilot taking their hand off the throttle. Would an actual F-14 pilot adjust flaps like this in a dog fight or is that a luxury of configurable controls in DCS that allows you to access throttle and flaps easily at all times?

[@chriscolabella880]

I feel like I now 'get' the F14 for the first time. Makes you realise what an amazing piece of design it is. Another takeaway is how big an advantage it is to have a RIO just for a second set of eyes.

[@grimreapers]

Yup same here

[@MaverickCulp]

I have maybe 20 hours as a pilot in the F-14 and I’m pretty good at BFM because of tutorials like this. When my friend got it I sat in his RIO seat to train him, and now I’m a dedicated RIO! Not only is having a RIO very useful, being the RIO is an absolute blast.

[@chriscolabella880]

@@MaverickCulp I can see the appeal. You get all the thrills but none of the responsibility!

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

I'm glad I've had a lot of Experience with the AlphaSim SR-71. That stick discipline on the Blackbird is insane. Nothing compared to the Tomcat. But the sheer "Analog" nature of the system helps a lot

[@JM_Smith1]

Dam..now this guy knows his fighter techniques..loved the video

[@Clayton117]

Thanks!

[@Clayton117]

CAP - I love it when you talk energy management to me.

[@juanma3333]

wow i love this talk about the tomcat. It makes very clear how much love the makers of this model put it on it.

[@kraziivan_]

I was flying the F-14 today and thought it was useless as a Dogfighter...I'm so happy this popped up.

[@Zimzimzou]

I am no DCS pilot nor do i play flight sim games and i only know the basics of flying. So i can hardly understand what's going on there, but this piece of content was so incrediblely entertaining that all i can say is WOW... just WOW! 👍👍👍

[@deepalperera4592]

The 4th time he said "Jerk the stick" he realized that it sounded wrong lol

[@theorganizer1273]

Deepal Perera don’t get any ideas... XD

[@jawjaboy58]

WOW!! THANK YOU for this! Very informative and entertaining! Feel better about learning to dogfight in a Tomcat now!!!!!!!!

[@svmik]

That F-16 sure does sound like a vacuum cleaner :-| Thanks for the insight into flying the best plane in the game ;-)

[@euclideancrypt8051]

That's a true friend, guides you through your maneuvers

[@s87343jim]

I honestly feel like they have retired the wrong airplane

[@thelost3rdroundofsurf407]

Why?? people forget the time and maintaining it takes to keep older planes like this running, Code 1, and mission capable. The F-15 is slowly meeting the same fate. A slow phase out to the next generation.

[@doc7000]

They were not producing new F-14s for a while and airframes have a finite life span, early F-15Cs I read initially had a life span of 4,000 flight hours which was extended out beyond that however they can't keep extending them. There is going to be a point where yes those planes will have to be retired and sadly the air force doesn't have a new air superiority fighter in production right now though they are likely working on a replacement for the F-22. The navy just does without their fleet defense fighter, with that being said the US hasn't been in a fight with another airforce of similar quality as itself. Because of this the level of training and aircraft mix hasn't really been tested since Vietnam, so we don't know how things will turn out if we fight a similar air force.

[@thelost3rdroundofsurf407]

@@doc7000 You have to take this in to account, we may not have fought a similiar Air Force directly but what other Air Force besides Isreal in the world has had more combat experience than U.S. pilots? I once had this conversation with an evaluator pilot i worked with when i was in the Air Force. I asked him how a war would fair out with a country like China or Russia. He answered honestly, it wouldn't be good for either side it would be ugly. The level of technology in warfare is advancing everyday but any little expericence you gain albeit from Training at events like Redflag, or even warfare on a smaller scale like desert storm is vital.

[@dangerously72]

@@doc7000 It's called the F-15EX....GR just did a video on it in the past 24 hrs i believe.

[@aryazad1]

Wrong aircraft was retired indeed,.. F14D and following versions should be still flying today.

[@doc7000]

The one thing that people seem to forget about the F-14 is the massive amount of wing area as the center fuselage acts as a lifting body (as long as it doesn't have AIM54 in it). Even with its high amount of weight its wing loading is from what I have read 48 pounds per square foot and that is at a loaded weight as the F-14 can apparently carry 16,000+ pounds of fuel. So wing loading as fuel is burning can get pretty low, you are talking war bird wing loading as the P51D had a wing loading of 39 pounds per square foot. Granted wing loading alone isn't the best way to determine this as different wing designs will give you different amounts of lift for a given area. A better way to look at this is stall speed with the lower the stall speed the better that aircraft will be in a turn fight as far as turning goes.

[@radsy5821]

I definitely fall into the category of people discouraged by the ease with which the Tomcat departs, but after this I can see what I was doing wrong. Hornet Syndrome for sure. Definitely going back for more, as the Tomcat is one of my all time favourite jets. Thanks

[@finixhawkeye3213]

"talk to me goose".... Manuver kills are IAF territory. Salute. Awsome TOPGUN flying guys. Goosebumps.

[@tomriley5790]

Really interesting - VHS's argument about the turn in sustained turn and the difference in high AOA and aerodynamic drag in instantaneous and sustained turns is exactly why thrust vectoring isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[@Leifthrasir]

Flying the Tomcat is like driving stick, while flying an f-18 / f-16 is like driving an automatic.

[@grimreapers]

Yup

[@mobiuszero1018]

Does VHS have a YT channel? The guy looks like he knows the tomcat like the back of his hand!

[@JM_Smith1]

Good question..wondered same thing

[@grimreapers]

Not that I know of but will ask.

[@rickyalexander459]

Was wondering the same thing. I'd love to see some dogfighting tutorials from him.

[@joshuaunderwood5921]

so does he? lol

[@frankbizzoco1954]

This was a very informative video, CAP! I appreciate these kind of educational videos greatly.

[@f38stingray]

Coming from Falcon BMS, I actually felt right at home with the F-14. It retains so much energy in tight turns.

[@ghostrider1827]

Wow....its been 2 years...and this series with VHS is still awesome...

[@llJRLL1979ll]

You do such a service with your videos, but you had me with the momentary glimpse of your Chad meme. Based.

[@prichardgs]

Well I love the F14 and this is why! Great educational video and I learned so much!

[@Scoobydcs]

Pal mode doesn't give you the dancing diamond when you have guns selected. Flip it to sidewinder if you want to watch it track. It's working normally you just can't see it

[@Bane_Diesel]

I have spent too much time in the 14 and I find using manual wing sweep super important.

[@lancervi1762]

This is a great vid. I've been struggling with the Tomcat, trying to decide if I want a low speed, turn fight or rocket ship into an energy fight. Truth is, I struggle with either. I finally was able to best the AI F16 in the quick mission, but after 20 or so tries. Learning the F14 is definitely going to take some time.

[@TakeDeadAim]

Looks like San Clemente off the coast of SoCal. Also, if you're in a knife fight...pull the wings into manual to manage energy and lift vectoring a bit easier. No need for zap flaps most of the time. You're whippin the ponies a bit much...the guys at the engine bay are gonna want a word with you!loL! Quit sleeping on the job! Save the naps for the ready room. Oh...the Turkey has a LOT of rudder authority. Learn to slip it and you'll be able to point the nose and get those close snap shots. "Old Man" TDA Sends.....BZ

[@PaVVroo]

Which flaps are you using for turning? The ones on F button by default, or maneuver cotrolled by DLC thumbwheel?

[@baltod4978]

Nice Job! I love this. Great job RC!

[@scrimmo]

“You don’t have any restriction on how tight you can pull (against the F15)”. In game maybe - real F-14’s had G restrictions on the airframe which could only be over-pulled in a true dogfight emergency

[@THEQuantumBacon]

I use my Saitek Throttle quadrant for a flaps lever on the Tomcat. LOVE having full control to the degree of flap extension.

[@brandonholder1724]

How did you bind it to an axis?

[@TealJosh]

Huh, I didn't know I did my self a service by first racking up 100 hours in tf-51d just flying around before buying hornet. I watched Ralfidude teaching Operator Drewski and wondered how Drewski bled so much power so fast as I never had a issues like that in hornet. Hornet Syndrome huh.

[@tequila6955]

This was amazing. I just got my 14 and it has been a challenge for sure. I will probably watch this one several times, until I start to get it. Thanks for your time VHS. I'm like Cap, I want to fly everything. I like how you actually have to pilot the 14. The 16 and 18 are easy mode with the FCS.

[@PolarBearSeal]

This is SO useful. I'm going to watch these after I buy the Tomcat.

[@timtheeagle1]

I have about 5-7 hours on the tomcat, been struggling but wanting to learn... I watched this video and just shot down my first two Su-27s with guns only (They were AI but still)... Thank you!

[@cosmoline_aesthetic]

Taking down AI isn't a small feat, they get UFO flight models!

[@MedicineWolf]

This is the best F-14 dogfight tutorial I’ve seen, would love a redux

[@jansvoboda4293]

It seems I learned to fly the Tomcat by feel correctly (being more used vintage planes rather then FBW). VHS would top me, no doubt, but my flying style in the Tomcat is very similar, just less precise/methodical. I was always wondering why people are so much advocating energy fighting when I could out-turn anything just using flaps when the speed drops (especially on top of loops). And on top of it it is a lot of fun plane.

[@solngv8]

It's like the difference in driving a manual transmission versus an automatic. You can get a feel for it.

[@jasonosmond6896]

Cap in a Tomcat with VHS in the back seat: a damn good pilot learning to think ahead of the fight and not try to beat the other guy on instantaneous performance every single time. Cap in a Viper 3v1 vs a Tomcat: Lol, you mean 2v1...

[@jinzhang8241]

1:10:17 As an Eagle Driver I find Tomcats easy to kill. Number 1 - I will never be in a horizontal bank or wide turn as mentioned - I never turn horizontally with a Tomcat, I fight vertical. Number 2 - The comment on "planning a ballistic trajectory" to "cut off" an Eagle assumes that the F-15 Eagle driver is maintaining a constant bank, checking his Facebook page, with zero situational awareness. Food for thought - the Eagle driver WANTS your Tomcat to go high speed at 500-600 knots and when the moment is right, he will do a quick displacement roll to bleed off energy - the Eagle's huge wing and planeform can bleed off energy from 450 knots to 200 knots instantaneously, forcing an overshoot - and then when you overshoot, he regains his energy quickly plugging afterburners then the Tomcat is one nice huge target for 20 mm. The Tomcat, along with the Viper, has the worst ability to bleed off energy once it is at high speed - it will ALWAYS overshoot.

[@pogo1140]

Perhaps we can revisit this now that the FM has been altered.

[@grimreapers]

yup it's on the TO DO list.

[@ruf01au]

what were the major changes to the f14 model ? learning the module now

[@deSloleye]

This really was an excellent video explaining some really fascinating nuanced flying. Thanks to VHS for his patient and clear explanation and instruction, and thanks to the GR for getting him in and putting their education on show. Looked intense, and really satisfying when you guys got it together.

[@TheFlameImperishable]

flaps on flaps out flaps up flaps over

[@Mass_hole508]

This is awesome to watch! Love it!

I've just bought the F14 just because of this video. Fighterjets are not my genre, I more an A10C guy but I must say I love this F14. Amazing video.

[@deathsicon]

with regards to "hornet syndrome", i was watching an intereview between a few pilots of different generations about Top Gun Maverick, one was an old tomcat guy and they were talking about how many g's they'd each pulled, he said one day in acm traIning he had a guy across the circle when his RIO shouted "shoot the bastard", so he cranked on the stick pulled the guy in and got the kill, looked down and he pulled 10 g's on that maneuver, it was so bad his maintenance crew made him do every post over g inspection for the unit for nearly a year

[@BitLeg]

The speed gauge is a pain to see. VHS provides an amazing solution about using your mirrors to check you wing position. Sort of wing SA really and is definitely the way to go. As a general tip you can lower your seat making the speed dial much easier to see and less obscured. Hope that helps.

[@realjasontudor]

This is fantastic. Very well done. F-14 is the preferred module I have and my education on it just went to a master's level.

[@ralfvanbogaert3451]

I can't help but fantasize about a fully modernized Tomcat. Half the size, single seat, glass cockpit, fly-by-wire, thrust vectoring.

[@BigHunt450]

It would be great if the initial interview portion could be revisited and cutscenes added to show us more of what you two are talking about.

[@Andy_1479]

Great video. Tomcat is a beast.

[@tomdtom5407]

You can see the flaps state using the display in the upper part in the left console. It is white and has the shape of an airfoil. When flap is down, the right part of this "white airfoil" turns 90 degrees down.

[@ianrose666]

the downside to that, is you have to take your eyes off the target to look at it. Looking at your mirrors tells you wing position, much quicker, and with far less fine ‘eyes off’ target.

[@seanshi2945]

Wow that’s like having a top gun instructor in there lol

[@guyincognito-1]

Something to add re:spoilers. They don't "deflect air down", what they do is kill the lift to a degree that depends on the amount of deflection. The resulting effect has some inherent lag from your input, and is much more pronounced while the wings are fully extended and the tailerons are less effective. So, if you lead your roll inputs a bit and remember proper rudder input (step on the ball), you'll have a much more controlled maneuver.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@gotindrachenhart]

So, what I get from this is that the 16/18 fly more like space planes by using thrust to counteract vectors. Whereas the 14 flies more like an IL2. I played IL2 back after it first came out, it's one of the only two flight sims I've really had much experience with (the other being F22 Lightning), and I used to call it "surfing the stall"....bank, combat flaps, pull and listen for the flutter then keep it right on the ragged edge of simply falling from the sky in order to out tern the krauts. The 14 seems to be the same only you have to manage the flaps more due to the sweep computer so then you have to use your acceleration and air speed as a way to keep the computer managed, in turn that opens or closes the window for flap manipulation. But the whole time you're surfing the stall, wallowing around fat and dirty in the air and keeping the airframe from just falling to earth like a giant metal turd dropped from on high. I get that right? :P What really impressed me was the rudder turn. Was like watching an A10 driver rolling back around for another ground run. Or maybe watching someone doing a thrust vector maneuver.

[@Preest80]

Damnit Cap...... You just made me buy ANOTHER module... btw, GREAT video!

[@grimreapers]

My apologies

[@pgtmr2713]

The answer is always Tomcat!

[@sofielee4122]

unless you're in 2 dimensions, in which case its miata :)

[@pgtmr2713]

Mazda is the answer. KL V6 is the engine no matter the chassis. 7500 rpms, 70-85 more hp than a BP, engine weighs about the same. Turbo to your liking. This is a KLDE turbo Boxster killer, listen to the sexy noises. Half the 0-60 time of stock? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYPIapp9asZ7p5I

[@ianrose666]

Come on. Everyone knows the answer is ‘2 more weeks’...

[@pgtmr2713]

@Southern Fun Unless that V8 is a Voodoo or comes from Maranello... pass.