F-16 Viper Vs Mig-29 Fulcrum | This is how the F-16 should fight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

[@brunogrou1501]

This is how a F-16 should fight. GS: "Wait a minute. I'm in the Mig..."

[@mikeropaynus410]

Yep, just finished a bvr engagement in a Walmart parking lot with carts! It was intense I passed through the canyons of GameStop and got jumped by two sues over dollar general, and let me tell you the prices weren’t the only thing fallen!

[@jrgoogly2251]

This is great lmao

[@TheWoblinGoblin]

Haha insurance form "two AMRSC carts came out from nowhere , dropped chaff, notched, but to no avail, the room wasn't big enough for two circles and I collided with a whole battery of carts..."

[@mikeropaynus410]

@@TheWoblinGoblin got damn you could have made my comment way better! Ahhhhhhhh why didn’t I think of that stuff!

[@mikeropaynus410]

@@jrgoogly2251 you can never let your guard down and I try to incorporate my errands with tactics. Practice makes perfect and perfect practice ain’t possible so yeah….. just flip switches and holla bitches

[@charlesmartel777xx]

I had to wait to like your comment because it was at 69 likes

[@galadato7425]

I discovered your channel a few days ago and every day I'm watching like 10 dogfights of you, you're not just playing you're explaining the tactics like a real jet pilot.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Well I try my best lol not always perfect

[@burnerjack01]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Seriously? If this were real life, you'd be teaching at NAS Fallon!

[@bayospirant277]

You guys should do 4 rounds, inter-changing aircrafts after each round.

[@feliscorax]

Actually a good idea and the better indicator of whether it’s the airframe or pilot skill that’s resulting in kills.

[@bigblue6917]

I have thought the same. Especially were one side has an advantage as we can see how both pilots deals with it.

[@burnerjack01]

@@feliscorax Good idea but if you want to isolate X to pilot skill, maybe put both in the same airframe. An aerial IROC Series Challenge kind of thing. Might come down to fuel management though.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

the other guy isn't always competent in the other plane, or maybe doesn't even own it.

[@mfavingerfv2202]

@@GrowlingSidewinder understandable! Great video as always

[@samarsingh-iz1ek]

pilots in dogfights: tries to kill enemy GS in dog fight: imagines in how many ways he can die.

[@mikeropaynus410]

He has this I’ve killed you tomorrow, today kinda vibe

[@anngo4140]

So Longshot and Shotgun in an F-14 would be referred to as Longshotgun?

[@hipfirehippie3474]

Your comment just made me realize that Longshot and Shotgun are 2 different people.

[@Farming-Technology]

@@hipfirehippie3474 or are they..?

[@windplayer]

@@hipfirehippie3474 Dude! Same stuff :)

[@Smegheid]

How about Shotgun in front, and Longshot in the back, so you get Shotshot?

[@skyhorseprice6591]

LongGunShot?

[@callmesampson7247]

I scrambled to this video faster than you can scramble an F-16

[@Kelgo102]

I scrambled to this video faster than you can scramble an egg

[@isaiahjohnson4105]

Me too

[@toby7504]

Under 20min then😀😀

[@Stinger522]

Great lunchtime viewing at work.

[@mikeropaynus410]

I just pulled the ejection shit like a jester and left growling feeling the wind and sun baby

[@chrisdouglas4427]

Love seeing the F-16 "She'll be coming around the circle with dem gun, she'll be coming around the circle with dem guns. Might be in deep shit with a Viper on your six. She'll be coming round the circle with dem guns.........yeehaw....."

[@WildWestRaider]

Dude 😂😂

[@burnerjack01]

My mind immediately went to Slim Pickens riding the Bomb down in "Fail Safe". Yee-haw!!!!!!!! (Got them Rueskys!)

[@Mak10z]

is that a Dos Gringos song?

[@kyleblecha1]

6:39 from GS's perspective he lived when he ejected but the replay makes it look like he didn't eject in time.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I noticed that also that’s a good eye

[@gh8447]

I noticed that too. Figured it might have just been where he cut the video.

[@WildWestRaider]

I'm not sure how realistic the pilot's damage model is, but had that been a real ejection I don't think he would have survived. Either from the MiG exploding, the ensuing fireball, or the fact that he hit the ground awful hard.

[@Justin-zi5io]

@@WildWestRaider those ejection seats on the migs are amazing just look at some of their air show crash footage

[@83RBurke]

@@WildWestRaider he would’ve been traveling laterally at at least a couple hundred mph upon ejecting, feet touched the ground a few seconds later - even pretty extreme braking by the chute would’ve have slowed him enough to survive I don’t think. I have no idea but I think hitting the ground while traveling at anything over 60mph laterally is likely to be fatal

[@jonathanhott3070]

Hey man I just wanted to say I'm loving the daily content! I'm sure it's a bunch of work but I super appreciate it! Love your content man!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you man, I’ve set a new record for myself now at 14 days back to back videos it’s super hard to do that and at the same time try to keep the content good (best you can) and not let it slip, nice to see people notice it thank you again.

[@Curtislow2]

P.S. My Grandson is now a F-16 Tech/ Mech.

[@himneeshchowdhary820]

man, you videos are getting more and more entertaining day by day. i hope you reach 10M subs.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much man means a lot to hear that. You the man.

[@Mike_Romeo]

A classic ! Well done GS.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks mike much love brother

[@5Moona]

@@GrowlingSidewinder THATS UR BROTHER

[@5Moona]

HI BROTHER OFF COOL YTBER

[@Mike_Romeo]

@@5Moona Haha no, I not his real brother. I am just a long time viewer and aviation enthusiast. I am also part of his serverteam and do some moderation on his discord server and mission maintance for his DCS servers.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

mike is a non blood brother. good dude.

[@mrsirkosky7618]

As a kid i had the Novalogic Pack "F-16/Mig-29" and i always had a hard time to decide, which one to play.

[@zloychechen5150]

First world problems. I only had the lighning 2 and 3, and commanche 3, all in ridiculous translations. Was kinda hard to get specific games in the nineties, you played what you could come by.

[@abhaypathak5347]

@@zloychechen5150 I still plays F16 sometimes.That game is good

[@mrsirkosky7618]

@@zloychechen5150 they came in a double package, and my computer crashed several times, when starting the game up (166mhz cpu, 16mb ram). also: our computer was already old. by that time, 1Ghz CPUs have already been on the market and in the households. but when the pc made it to the main menu, it worked. And i never knew, which one to play, because pc time was kinda short for me, as a kid. So i had to make a wise choise, before pc time was up.

[@sirbader1]

Memories. They made a F22 game too, iirc.

[@aybaws]

This comment brings back memories playing Novalogic games as a kid back in the early 2000s... F-22 Lightning III and Conmanche 4 were my go-to back in the days

[@Callsign_Prophet]

This guy could give a lecture on dirt down to the atomic level while in the middle of a life or death dog fight.

[@burnerjack01]

Once again. Brilliant. The dogfight. The cinematographic excellence. The absolute "No 'kid' type bullshit, level headed, focused explanations (during and tac review) with just the right amount of humor, complete with Ludwig's Moonlight Sonata (Piano Sonata #14). Gotta talk the wife into going in for a second mortgage so I can gear up. If I ever pull the trigger on this, my ultimate goal is to beat GS with "much disrespect". Watched some of the others but I keep returning to GS. So educational, engaging anf entertaining. Just the best.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Ur the man John thank you brother

[@CruelSun69]

Did you get that second mortgage and gear up?

[@burnerjack01]

@@CruelSun69 [sigh] no. not yet.

[@aaronutley]

Man, the 29 is a pretty airplane (I also love 27s)

[@doncalypso]

I wonder if it's possible to change _"Nagging Nadya"_ to _"Bitchin' Betty"_ in the MiG?

[@patrickbateman7444]

Great fight! Shotgun is an incredible opponent, particularly impressed how he carried his speed at the beginning of the fight, and avoided your nose. He was always a step ahead. Would have loved to see a few more rounds! Kudos to you for bringing us real fights.

[@Myname-il9vd]

its really great when a channel reaches that point where every video is higher quality than the last and I'm confident we're at that point now

[@faisalfayyaz3749]

love the quick videos man. I open youtube see a thumbnail and think aaahhh yes good combination of planes for the video I must watch.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

That switch from one circle to vertical then to two circle was amazing

[@Matterian]

I am back!! Love to watch you take it like a man for the betterment of our knowledge of the planes that you are fighting!!

[@roijoi6963]

Yup, just another day in Viperville decorating the yard with another Putinistani lawn dart. OK, seriously, a nice "Classic" I can point ppl to when they ask questions about 1 vs 2-Circle fights and how you fight a Viper. I'm sure cranking one of these out ~ every day is a ton of work, but you really are distinguishing your channel from everyone else with the effort. Hope you can make this a full-time gig.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you brother really appreciate ur support, doing my best man working hard but it’s worth it when people like you come to watch.

[@uglyigor3055]

ok seriously, how can you create this amazing 3 person camera angle views? The editing is absolutley amazing.

[@kallaji7383]

Well, in this video we've also learned how NOT to fight in a Mig-29.

[@jayceethree4538]

What would you have done differently?

[@kallaji7383]

@@jayceethree4538 For example, not indulge the F16 into a downward rate fight towards the deck, which is a sure way of getting killed. Doing a turn reversal back into 1-circle or perhaps even going into the vertical would have probably yielded better results.

[@mikethemaniac1]

What a coincidence! I was just fighting a Mig29 a couple days ago and finding the draw very difficult to break, let alone in my favor. Addendum: I've been having trouble keeping up to the Mig29 in the two circle deck fight, and in the two cases in which I won, it was because the Mig29 fought to the very last drop and then the pilot ditched, or because I took it into a flat one circle and closed the separation enough to force an overshoot. (Just started the F-16 this saturday.)

[@TurboAttackxbl]

I really like how you're not in the dominant fighter, it really shows that you're giving the aircraft your all each time you do these videos. I know it's a tossup but it just shows the pros and cons to each jet.

[@UUUU-dn9wz]

Actually with missiles the mig29 in dogfight usually is the dominant fighter

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

The mig 29 in a close range fight is the dominant plane.

[@alexandermamatsashvili3311]

Tysm for the awesome vids❤️

[@Aardvark892]

My all time favorite battle, ever since Falcon 4.0 and its MiG addon. Thanks for this!

[@MrHetmanek]

Very nice, that fight was so smooth and clean. If this had ended higher in the sky it would have looked even more realistic.

[@idfclutchnixon]

Normally I'd drop a comment praising n' stuff but, others will do better job in that than me. Just want to say that this channel has come a long way and it's great to see it improving all the time... Also I am really curious what you think about J20, and whether or not there is any sign of it in DCS.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

I actually don't think the J-20 would be a great platform for DCS. It's really more of an interceptor designed to try and take out heavies (tankers, AWACS, etc.) from long distances without being seen than a fighter. I'd compare it more to a stealthy MiG-25 than something like an F-22. It has a different purpose in the battlespace.

[@CerealGamingTV]

depends how long it takes for chinese specialists to put thrust vectoring on the J-20, bc right now without thrust vectoring in the dogfight itd lose every time to the F-22 and su-57. very cool plane tho, chinese engines have come a long way and its capabilities currently in BVR are probably hugely underestimated.

[@teemu3981]

@@VisibilityFoggy mig-25/31 and j-20 would be perfect for dcs.

[@GeorgeCee]

Awesome video. Now give Us another MIG-29 video where the REAL Growling Sidewinder is actually piloting the Fulcrum and not some imposter. That did not seem like the actual Growling Sidewinder. The Growling Sidewinder that I'm familiar with, would win with the Fulcrum in this dogfight. LOL. Happy Summer and thanks for the great videos and awesome server. :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store I'm A Cat Person Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/i-m-a-cat-person-f-14-tomcat?product=227 I was originally not going to post this it wasn't long enough, but shotgun just did such a nice job with the F-16 I just had to post it for everyone to see, reading energy well choosing the vertical in the correct times and sticking to his 2 circle game plan and dragging the fight down, lead the F-16 to an easy victory over the Mig-29, thank you guys for watching hope you enjoyed, much love.

[@5Moona]

NICE MERCH

[@5Moona]

BOUGHT

[@barbarian2597]

thank you for showing mig - can you show us when to do or not to do cobra?

[@serryntonin]

Lmao forgot to pin

[@21owlgirl72]

hey, whats the song in the beginning?

[@shivugowda3528]

Dude that falcon is hunting 👌

[@zacbutcher]

It's "Viper". Only nerds and weirdos call it a Falcon. Not being mean just looking out for you.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

@@zacbutcher Perfectly symbolism of having the large sized eagle and small sized falcon vs cryptically referencing Mexico's Flag .

[@RAPTORGAMINGz]

@@zacbutcher its originally named falcon by its makers later pilots called it viper and also f16 designed as falcon not viper

[@sniper9786]

Chup

[@tonyrun5802]

Good stuff from both of you guys tbf

[@mininogamer4518]

bro that intro is insane, i love it.

[@member5488]

That was a Xgames gold on sticking that ejection.

[@speeddemon2262]

Good work nice comments about the flight models in dcs

[@Rudeboi0427]

This video reminded me of the old Novalogic/Novaworld days. The F-16 would always beat up on the MIG-29 in the rate fight. The MIGs best bet was to do hit and runs since it was faster in a straight line. Miss that game...

[@roceye]

This content makes me want to get another bigscreen and put my surround sound together. Damn you.

[@fredericborloo1910]

The two circle idea with the Viper works if either, a sharp angles gain can be made at the merge, or, if not, an immediate reversal and a very careful speed reduction causes the Viper to momentarily turn inside the opponents turn circle , followed by a very well timed early second reversal to reinstate the 2 circle fight, but from a better position. The biggest mistake most DCS pilots make with the Viper is that they try to rate fight it at 450 knots at max G. Doesn’t work. Although around that speed instantaneous rate can be very high, instead taking max rate and letting speed bleed to the 350-380 knots range at 6-7G works better to gain positional advantage. The Viper still rates well down to 270 knots during an energy excursion. I have won so many fights by surprising the opponent with the Vipers lower speed capabilities, resulting in snap shot opportunities. Contrary to what most DCS pilots seem to believe, the Viper sight is excellent and extremely precise, when acm radar locked. Voila, my 2 cents.

[@peterweller8583]

Even when being out classed I learn from GS insights as to his opponents decision making processes.

[@tac-cobserver3788]

great fight mate 🤙

[@kangaroohybrid5633]

The intro gave me chills....👍❤

[@blackrat1228]

So what's the MiG's way out? In a guns only fight as soon as it gets close to the ground abort the turning battle and go vertical to regain altitude while there's still some gap to do so safely?

[@sohrabroozbahani4700]

Amazing joust my lords... incredible, breath taking, astounding...

[@tonyrun5802]

"It's pretty ironic, isn't it? Two dogs fighting a last battle." "Now we get to see who's number 1!"

[@sohrabroozbahani4700]

@@tonyrun5802 ayayay, I miss that...

[@luccavanopdorp9755]

To be honest I'd love to see a video of your dcs setup one day!

[@Zimran25]

I finally got the balls to try pvp the other day and jumped on your server.. and while cruising around at 20k feet took amraam to the face from a viper.. quickly adjusted and managed 3 kills. god it was fun

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

well done, you've joined the big leagues of PvP now. thats something to be proud of.

[@calebmatchett2331]

Hey growling sidewinder I’m just starting dcs and I was wondering How do you host a game just with you and your friend ?

[@daltonv5206]

Longshot is getting better and better 👏

[@johnhermann7498]

That was great... and the intro music still hasn't lost it's appeal...

[@meaterschmitt8045]

i cant wait for the monster this plane will be if it ever gets the right flight model

[@rhino269]

For a second I thought your silhouette on the ground just before he killed you was the F-16 coming up underneath you.

[@toddmoss749]

Digging the openings

[@crankthetank3581]

Dat cinematic opening tho

[@stevemc6010]

Cool Serdyukov aggressor F-16 livery!

[@popovqc]

Hey, can you share how you manage to get the camera that low please? I've asked this before in the comments but I guess nobody beside you Growling knows, so please share. video makers would vey much appreciate this. thanks, merci. And of course, nice video btw :)

[@devin4035]

Maybe I’m an idiot, but just out of curiosity when you’re transitioning down to the deck in the rate fight and you realize you are losing why not go back into a vertical? Genuine question sorry if it sounds dumb. I don’t even have DCS I just love aircraft and every time I watch your videos I wonder that, im sure their is a reason why ya don’t

[@KingMen1Force]

Good question. He probably should have once he started to see the losing cues or extend and recommit just so to force a 1 circle again. My guess is either GS isn't very experienced in the MiG or he wanted to show what the viper can do.

[@stinkyfungus]

Going vertical costs energy, and both aircaft have a 1:1 or better T/W in a clean configuration. So, He can follow you into that maneuver and saddle up on your 6. Extending out in the vertical works only if your opponent is in a low energy state, and doesn't have: 1. An IR guided missile to throw at you... and/or 2. Doesn't have the smash to follow you. The neither plane in this fight have #1 today... but both have #2 because of their clean configs, and high T/W .

[@stinkyfungus]

@@jinzhang8241 True, if this were a mig 29 vs a low T/W opponent this is an option, say... a legacy hornet.... but a 16 can match that move. I think a tighten down and reversal would be a better option for the 29, its advantage is in the high AOA nose position fight. Tighten down, reverse, and then use that high AOA capability to force an overshoot. The 29 is better in a low energy state than the 16. Put the fight there.

[@Curtislow2]

Nice Job Shotgun!

[@rbfabc]

From your perspective that first ejection almost looked survivable. From Shotgun's on the other hand...

[@Baki-EGW]

Helmet-mounted sight, R-73 and Mig-29 VS F-16 is the proper way to go.

[@TylerF35A]

A Serdyukov F-16 Aggressor?? Yes, please!

[@rylanmiller7646]

What is the song that plays in your debriefs? I absolutely love it

[@Mike_Romeo]

Its a remix of Beethovens moonlight sonata

[@TheDark-Knut]

Just one round? 🤥

[@air-headedaviator1805]

At one point I’d love to learn what elements of an aircrafts design encourages whether it should choose 1 circle or 2 circle

[@stoompa5349]

Well in the case of the hornet it has incredible alpha capability and doesn't really gain speed that fast as something like a viper might. It's the perfect slow speed fighter and thus it works best in the one circle. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than that though

[@Justin-zi5io]

You should do a historical fight of a mig 29g vs a f-18 hornet(not the super hornet) or a F-15A

[@thesweatleaf]

You had chances to tap the AOA limiter override while you still had altitude. If you would have used this, you could have forced him to extend, which could have evened things up again.

[@Stinger522]

I'm still hoping for the Gripen vs F-14 BVR fight. Meteor vs Phoenix let's go.

[@mustafatariq3252]

Jf 17 vs f16 and a mig 29 vs jf 17 would be nice

[@RedPanda-mu1qy]

I think those wing racks on Mig-29 make it slightly disadvantageous; it gives extra drags after all.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

The MiG-29 is general has more drag than the F-16 by virtue of being a twin engine, somewhat larger aicraft. It has a big advantage at noise pointing, high AOA fights though, as GS explains.

[@freshcofreshco9811]

I like to think the skill of pilot is deciding factor

[@toby7504]

Two iconic fighter from the cold war.. Awsome

[@mikeyhbr]

I do have an honest question.. if the viper is great at 2 circle.. why follow viper when he pulls away (tries to get distance)? if you want a one circle.. wouldn't you naturally pull away too to force one circle? at 3:43 timestamp.. would you not pull left to force one circle? If you do not want 2 circle.. counter as soon as opportunity shows itself. Do not chase the tail.. when you want the nose. IMO?

[@idfclutchnixon]

Shotgun be like: That's how mafia works...

[@eeNPeeCee]

What does that even mean

[@idfclutchnixon]

@@eeNPeeCee it's a meme...

[@eeNPeeCee]

@@idfclutchnixon ik but it doesnt make sense cus theres no context here lol

[@idfclutchnixon]

Welp, that's your view, it doesn't make sense to you but maybe does to someone else...

[@eeNPeeCee]

@@idfclutchnixon then help me understand. Explain the joke

[@no-kf8yy]

love seeing viper fights (hope u make some more BMS videos) by the way, the Viper also has a good turn radius as well, probably not as good as a MiG-29's but if it needs to it can go one circle.

[@SL4Y3Rv]

Nice video and Cool intro, would have been nicer if the F-16s Took off from Khasab since Oman has the Bl.50 (but I know that's not the goal of the video) Which texture mod are you suing btw can you please share it?

Beautiful.

[@5Moona]

NICEEEE

[@walex3782]

You should try F-22 vs. The Harrier

[@sheila9358]

good narration

[@guidodalessio9267]

I d like a video where you play Mig 29 far from the floor

[@moistmike4150]

Great fight! Viper is a mean little snake.

[@natthaphonhongcharoen]

I heard from one of Wag's videos that they'll improve Viper's performance. Did it come with the new update?

[@stoompa5349]

No they just broke the radar lol

[@hitstick567]

Do you have any thoughts on an educational bfm series?

[@Jay-O_Carlow]

Love to see the Viper Vs the Typhoon... that would be an epic battle... king of the 4'th Gen Who win's....? that's the Question...?

[@Tertius_Oculus]

If the F-16 drops it's nose towards the floor, are you forced to go with him (4:40) or will you get in a disadvantage if you slightly gain altitude for a later trade-off "altitude for speed" to make a dive and go for guns?

[@fonesrphunny7242]

To put it simply: F-16 -> dive -> more airspeed -> more maneuverable MiG -> climb -> less airspeed -> less maneuverable The F-16 will make a faster turn and eventually just pull up behind the MiG.

[@Tertius_Oculus]

@@fonesrphunny7242 What about gods hand pushing the nose of the MiG down after a climb to catch up? At some point the MiG has no options left but to go for something different.

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

Has the flight model of the F-16 been updated? I heared the MiG-29 used to ourate it.

[@chanceburk4852]

I think we need to see the viper and the rafale go at it

[@kenchen704]

So nobody wanna talk about how the F16 has a livery that sports both Russian red stars and USAF emblem?

[@Shentazam]

•-•

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

U know what an aggressor squadron is right

[@sird4vy501]

That wasn't a F16! It was a MiG-30!

[@priest0701]

GS, I love these fights, I've watching them for over a year now and I have others watching now too. I would like to see these fighters fight as if it is a real fight. Like the guns only F18 vs F16, and the F16 has all that power and much less weight. If they were fully tricked out it could be better?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hi man, thank you for watching and spreading the word, I'm not sure what you mean, what I'm understanding is you mean by realistic fight, do you mean like realistic loadouts?

[@priest0701]

@@GrowlingSidewinder lol, thanks for responding! Yes, I guess I could of been more clear. My dad was a pilot in the Navy from the early 70's to the mid 80's, and we use to talk about load out on aircraft, he has always said that the combat loadouts changed the flight performance. It may not be good gaming, they would be killing each other at BVR, but it would be interesting. I am a F/A 18 fanboy, to be completely above board. Thanks man for replying and have a great day!

[@RogueSpecterGamingOfficial]

How are you using the pencil on tacview i have not been able to figure it out?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

3rd party app called epic pen

[@KatiePhongh]

I really enjoy these videos. But they all seem to be based on a fight to the death. Could you explain more realistic perimeters where a pilot might decide to run if the odds don't favor him or her? What are those perimeters and how are they dictated by engagement conditions and by performance factors of the aircraft?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

once ur merged you're stuck. short of the enemy losing visual on you (unlikely) if you try to extend away you will catch a fox2 or fox3 to the ass. Someone has to die.

[@KatiePhongh]

@@GrowlingSidewinder How about situation in BVR combat?

[@fredericborloo1910]

The other aircraft are over performing. It is a known fact among Viper and Hornet pilots that the Hornet could position and then go for a sharp energy excursion for a snapshot against the Viper, but once it’s done that, it has burned its energy. That is, the old F/A18C Hornet. In DCS, the Hornet can just keep going. Seems something is not right with induced drag modelling at high AoA in the DCS Hornet. The Ps and turn rate diagrams are very accurate for the Viper.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes, this has been my findings also, the Viper in terms of RATE performance is spot on, pitch rate could use some work, the other aircraft are vastly over preforming.

[@stevenmorris3181]

Can this simulation setup three fighters all enemies for a next level of skill adventure?

[@Alex96194]

As always loving the content :) remember youre the best !

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

Rafale vs Typhoon please!

[@offsideartist7883]

the whole fight i thought he was in the F-16 until he got shot down lol

[@gerroricomabulay3535]

Just curious, does the US airforce ever contact you? Like talking about tactics, etc? Like a mock up fight?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

lolol no, they would never do that. I have nothing to contribute to the air force when it comes to tactics and anything they were to say to me would be a liability.

[@TakNuke]

Do you guys have any idea on why mig 29/35 and f18h/sh even with being twin engine jets have such a short range more comparable to f16 not their respective bigger siblings like su27/35, f14 and f15.