F-16C Viper: EGI Navigation & Steerpoint Manipulation Tutorial | DCS WORLD

[@MattWagner]

Nice job. One note, pilots never call it the steering cue, rather Sherm (as in Sherm the Sperm). Also, never really called the DCS switch, rather it's termed the dobber switch... as in dobber down, dobber left, etc.

[@William3000x]

Hey, Wags. I've got a question you're probably the best person to ask to, if you don't mind: How is the current develompent state of the "short" and "long" HOTAS switches pressing? Are the "Long" commands implemented at the moment? Any estimate?

[@grimreapers]

Roger Wags. Where the Hell do all these weird terms come from?

[@dirkwink9470]

@@grimreapers The fertile and juvenile imagination of fighter pilots?

[@willcarpenter5777]

@@grimreapers As an air force guy, they come from jokes. Someone says something dumb and it sticks, hence sherm the sperm. As a maintainer we have a part we call a "coke bottle" because some idiot decided to call it that once and it stuck.

[@ramonlnegron6120]

Thanks for the info, I didn’t know this, I’m too old I guess. So, instead of chasing clouds, now I’m going to be following lines. Man, I love DCS and the F-16C, but what I love the most is the people who dedicate their knowledge and their time to try to impart some of that knowledge to us, the unwashed!!! A million thanks to you, my friend, and to the many like you... Cuco Negron San Juan, PR

[@grimreapers]

Pleasure Sir

[@William3000x]

Regarding ETA and Time to Steerpoints. The F-16 has some REALLY cool features you can use in the DED for estimating and calculating your navigation and flight plans. If you press the number 5 "CRUS" key on the ICP, it will give you various functionalities for you to estimate, for each individual steerpoint of your flight plan (or markpoints you add them on the go). The default screen of this menu will present you the selected steerpoint (highlighted on the top-right corner of the DED, as usual) and it shows you, in order: System: The current time of the day; DES TOS: Designated Time On Steerpoint (TOS), according to your flight plan; ETA: Estimated Time of Arrival (small observation here: this counter will NOT give you ETA in the usual format like, for instance, "1 minute and 30 seconds remaining", instead it shows what time of the day it will be when you get to the steerpoint), estimating it based on your current speed and course deviation; REQ G/S: And last but not least, the Requested Ground Speed you should be flying to get to the steerpoint precisely at the Designated Time On Steerpoint. If you then press the "Seq." (the "d-pad like switch" for the ICP-DED interaction) while in the first page, it will then display the second page with some useful feature of this function: The Range function. This will estimate for you what your Fuel State is gonna be when you get to the selected Steerpoint, if you maintain your current speed, throttle state and course. This is EXTREMELY useful for predicting when it's time to RTB. And if you press the Seq. again, it will give you the same information, but instead of referenced to the selected Steerpoint, it references to the "Home" airbase. And this function also provides you recommendation for optimal altitude for fuel efficiency purposes, which makes it an even better option for RTB. If you press the Seq. one more time, it will give you a function that estimates, based on your current throttle state, how much time you have until you reach Bingo Fuel. Pressing Seq. again, will go back to the first page of this menu. So there's some hype for when this is all implemented, I guess. =)

[@grimreapers]

Interesting, thanks will keep an eye out for this functionality :)

[@rmp5s]

5:30 - Can anyone think of any reason why it would be stuck on "MAN"? I can't get it to switch to "AUTO" to save my life...

[@kevinwarren3998]

GPS is more accurate than INS, especially over time (as INS accumulates error). GPS however is easy to defeat/jam. The bearing pointer will take you directly to the waypoint/steerpoint but that direct-to course may not be aligned with the course line that joins the two steerpoints. So, imagine if you overshoot the steerpoint 2 by a few miles and then turn to steerpoint 3. If you follow the bearing pointer it will take you directly to steerpoint3. So, you can bug that direction and turn toward it. The CDI is slaved so the HSI CDI will indicate how far off the course line joining the steerpoint 2 and 3 you are. Turning the OBS won't change the deflection of the CDI but it's best to turn the OBS to the course joining 2 and 3. You then have to do a little mental math to figure out how much turn and in what direction you need to make to center the CDI to intercept the course between 2 and 3, and once the CDI is centered your bearing pointer and heading should be the same. You can then bug that and adjust for wind as you zero in. That's the real difference between flying 'Direct-to' and 'proceeding on-course' (ATC doesn't even make the distinction IRL correctly most of the time). In any case "Direct-to" is following the bearing straight to the steerpoint. On course is turning in and intercepting/centering the CDI on the HSI. This is all much simpler with a drawing :)

[@praetorian48]

Please note that now ( late October 2021) if you want to swap from manual to auto you have to use the m-sel button (0).

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

Thanks for this video. I used to know this from F-16 Multirole Fighter and JAnes USAF. I needed a refresher.

[@isomuf707]

Thanks , Gim, very helpful, looking for more videos on F16

[@grimreapers]

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[@kevlarburrito6693]

For those of you wondering what the hell EGI stands for it is, I believe, (E)mbedded (G)lobal positioning system / (I)nertial navigation system

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@RayBanJockey]

Thanks, just got the F16 and all your videos are a great help.

[@Joe091680]

I attempt to change over from manual to auto steer points and it doesn’t change anything. Am I missing a step?

[@firekid2694]

How do I select the correct steerpoint for example if I wanna fire a weapon at a Sam 6 for example, how do I select the correct steer point? Without changing the steerpoint number for a hundred times?

[@chrispoe5292]

So im not sure if this is a bug or not but there has been a lot of times ill punch in the steer point in say 1 and im using the correct lat long coordinates and elevation and when I take off it will be in the middle of no where. Sometimes if I punch it in again it fixes it and in one server it never would work. is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

[@SirJohnPhillip]

Thank you! I don't know if it had been asked, but ain't the course indicator showing the selected course that goes in- or outbound to the selected steering point and not just the direct course towards it? Like, when you select a course of 90° you approach the stpt on 90° radial inbound? Or doesn't it work like that?

[@JimboJet737]

It works exactly like that. It’s basically a VOR but the Steerpoints are the fictional VOR stations.

[@scottmaskal6481]

Nice job, I was just working a nav problem a few weeks ago among others. We use a TAD page on the mfd instead of what you were using though. I wonder what block those are supposed to be, I’ve only worked 30s.

[@stephenlamb1820]

These are supposed to be super early block 50s from what I understand (pre EGI TCTO) lol, these jets have a GPS receiver and INU installed

[@raresbirzu2436]

I can’t get the steerpoint on the hud going down as I change the elevation. It’s stuck somewhere in the air

[@user-dx4hb5le4v]

Would love it if you made a updated tutorial compilation for the F-16

[@erserb]

Sometimes i have no steering point diamond in the hud, so i can't redirect my TGP to my target from the hud. Anyone knows how can i fix this problem? I thought first its a INS allingning problem but its not.

[@johnnygutierrez8436]

You should do tutorials on all the ops chks 🙏🏼😭

[@user-zc9zt2vl5s]

Are steepoints and waypoints the same? I'm having a difficult time trying to wrap my head around this. I am using some PvE missions that I've downloaded, and notice that on my right MFD it shows a diagram with lines and dots. I'm assuming these are the locations of enemies that I need to fly to in my mission. How can I setup the F16C to automatically get me to the next waypoint?

[@johnnyhouligan9879]

I'm no pro, but I believe steer points, way points, are the same thing. Consider them checkpoints to a pre planned route that will lead to your mission area or whatever you have set up. Regarding your last question, the answer is the part where Cap turned the steer point setting to from manual to auto. Only that it should have changed when it didn't .

[@SAINT-ANTONIO]

Hey Grim reapers. Have you tried to play the game using medical oxigen and consumed nootropics for a week before ? Why? To boost mental performance in competitive multiplayer matches...

[@grimreapers]

erm worth a go?

[@SAINT-ANTONIO]

Well yeah! I used Orthomol mental and used Go X Handheld oxgen. Increased cognition and more intense colors and so... But for better more intense results for gaming I would use a stationary oxigen system as Pilots have with more enriched oxigen turning the Brain into a turbobooster and UK Nootropics of various companies! Best is to consult a pharmacy. The benefits would be that all players of a squad retain more information, are more focussed, make better decisions and react much more agile...

[@giuseppeloggia6412]

An easy question. Why if I select auto in the waypoint mode it doesn't change with the next when it reaches the waypoint I'm Flying to? Only thing happening is that it indicates me that I getting far from the waypoint I left, obviously, but don't change to the next one. It's a bug or I'm forgetting anything?

[@grimreapers]

Doesnt work at moment we believe

[@giuseppeloggia6412]

you are right. Matt Wagner answeared me telling it's not implemented yet.

[@kruegerbnu]

No autopilot at this moment to navigate through steer points?

[@grimreapers]

no most of autopilot not in yet

[@anthonypape556]

Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy

[@b.h1362]

Maybe a stupid question but how do i pause ????

[@grimreapers]

press "pause/Break" key on keyboard

[@mymonkeyisjank]

I’ve been searching everywhere for the same bug however I’ve found no info. When running single player mission training. With unlimited weapons enabled. The f16s systems do not detect the “reload” after you’ve depleted the weapons. So the jet is rearmed. However the sms still reads zero and nothing will launch. I’ve looked everywhere I can. Anyone have the same problem?

[@grimreapers]

Same thing happened to Hornet when it came out. you'll just have to get a new jet when you re-load for time being.

[@RicCrouch]

Yep-on the list of known issues.

[@mymonkeyisjank]

Gotcha. Thank you so much for your response. Why I love your vids. Still love the jet.

[@akisakis7980]

Can someone tell me the button name for the "radar lock target"??

[@firemedicjm911]

TMS forward once will bug the contact in the FCR. TMS forward twice will lock the contact with STT.

[@akisakis7980]

@@firemedicjm911 thank you

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I think what DCS truly needs is a 34" TOUCHSCREEN 1440p monitor. I play on a 34" Alienware Gaming monitor and the game is fantastic. But these buttons and dials are horrible to manipulate with a cursor. Imagine a multitouch enabled gaming monitor.

[@fenny1578]

I play DCS on a 60" 4k monitor with a IR touchscreen overlay that has 10 point multi touch. They make them for smaller monitors, but I can tell you from personal experience that it's not so simple. Left clicking and scrolling are actually really easy to do, but anything that requires a right click slows you down (because you have to hold your finger over the click target and wait for the little touch circle to become a square.) Otherwise, as long as you keep things to left clicks/scrolling it is an honestly fantastic experience. The multitouch isn't really useful in any way, dcs only really picks up one click at any given time, but it's nice to know I can do multi touch for other things. I use Track IR as well and the two don't interfere with each other in the slightest. The whole thing just attaches to your monitor bezel and plugs into a single usb port. You don't even have to touch your monitor (you kind of shouldn't unless you like cleaning it a lot.) 7/10, fun and useful toy to have for some dcs modules. 10/10 for when I'm not in dcs and want to stand and do stuff tho (like click on youtube videos.)

[@rohanfalcon]

Question.... you left out the most important thing.. HOW do you get into NAVIGATION MODE?????

[@homeworxchannel4120]

On the mfd?

[@JimboJet737]

Toggles with a-a or a-g, and steerpoints sequenced manually or automatically depending on ifc settings

[@craigmacintosh6230]

We use the UFC then the IPC anr DED on Ch4 or 5 down to ITV 1,2 & 3 😉

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@cmdrriotz5283]

Did they add "adding waypoints in cockpit yet?"

[@parc5257]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnKQZoymZ9xqpNU yes

[@CATGAFFAYF]

Cap I'm getting into this game and I hope to get to fly with you guys 1 day.

[@grimreapers]

welcome Sir

[@dirkwink9470]

For f**** sake. I spend an hour trying to get a new steerpoint working on the instant action 'cold start' mission, and failing. Now I find out it isn't implemented yet. At least I can now try changing one of the existing points.

[@raresbirzu2436]

Dirk Wink make sure you’ve put the decimal coordinates instead of degrees, minutes and seconds

[@glowheat4469]

Excellent.

[@LooxJJ]

i miss 90s...gosh.

[@pspicer777]

I miss the 60's ... wait ... yikes!! 😬

[@staydatie]

my waypoints are all over the place

[@rdaws73]

It's called Iggy, not E.G.I

[@grimreapers]

gotcha

[@rdaws73]

@@grimreapers You're not wrong, but pilots and us F-16 avionics technicians just say iggy for short lol

[@terryboyer1342]

Hey Cap! I'm providing a link to a vid that you and other GRs might find interesting. C.W. Lemoine has flown FA-18s in the Navy, F-16s in the Air Force and currently is flying F-5s in the Guard. He's also an author and reserve police officer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYu8ZoCklrKjiJY

[@grimreapers]

Thx Terry! Would love to interview him!

[@generic_4938]

50 seconds ago oof

[@danvercillo]

4th -ish

[@CarstenDittrich2014]

3rd...? :-)

[@woozykiev6620]

second comment i guess?