F-16C Viper Vs SA-6 Gainful | SEAD | WILD WEASEL | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Thanks for watching guys, just a little SAM practice I was doing thought I'd upload, might be interesting. Let me know your thoughts on more SEED videos in the future, of course we will make them a little more and more challenging in the future; and yes, as mentioned in the video I'm aware SAMs have shorter range IR sams like SA19s with them to cover them so please fight the urge to point this out to me, this was just a practice session trying to learn some SEED stuff.

[@boukhanchouche1]

Sead against s300 plz

[@brian6174b]

Hey man, hit me up and come fly with the 55th Fighter Squadron on JTF1, this is our bread and butter. Very professional group.

[@MrOtistetrax]

Definitely digging the SEAD vids. It's nice to see you a little bit out of your comfort zone as well. From a "tutorial" standpoint, it's just as valuable to see you figuring things out and making mistakes as it is to hear you explain how things *should* be done - which you're very good at.

[@johnhermann5882]

Definitely keep doing these... I am now going to have to try SEAD with the Hornet (see other comment) and decide whether to buy the F-16 module or not... I am also really, really, *REALLY* (did I say it enough?) that Heatblur comes out with an F-4G module after they release the F-4.... The idea of using that beast with Standard ARMs gets me more excited than I probably should be... Thanks again for another great video!

[@sayeedahmed47]

Make SEAD mission with Eurofighter Typhoon

[@zahnatom]

I love SEAD and anti ship missions. they're so much fun; please do more of them :)

[@reisbauer9044]

totally agreed! great video!

[@Virtualis.]

There awesome aint they!

[@ziepex7009]

He has listened to you😅

[@markeldamgaard]

This is fun to watch especially because it's something different. Would be nice to see some missions. Maybe once a month we could get some big missions involving some air to air and air to ground. Everyone can only die once. So these videos would be much longer. I don't know if that's possible or not for you or if it's simply too time consuming. Just and idea. If I had a PC I would love to help.

[@zackwaffen9210]

i agree id like to that aswell. missions always seem to have higher stakes

[@ew3612]

especially when human controlled opponents are involved

[@sol2wit781]

6:38 This is why the SA-6 is another Deadly SAM nickname: the 3 fingers of death

[@ZedBanana8]

next time will be a great test to see short-range and mid-range air missile defense combined. that should really push GS to his limits!

[@longjohnpilsners7750]

I would definitely like to see larger SEAD or ground attack operations with a few wingmen and bandits involved, when the player availability is there of course.

[@cgilleybsw]

Interesting that the scenario is actually pretty close to standard Soviet doctrine. The first time anyone say the SA6 was after the 6 day war (terrible for the Egyptians/Syrians/Jordanians). Israel owned the skies against the SA2s. The 73 war was a bit different. The Soviets supplied the Egyptians with SA2s, SA6s and ZSU-23s. SA2s for long range mid/high altitude, SA6s for low to mid and ZSU23 gun dishes for up close and personal encounters. The SA6 and ZSU23 systems were a big surprise to the Israelis.

[@johnnyboy7002]

Watching cluster munitions do their thing is a truly awesome sight, as long as it's not aimed at you. I'll never forget the Desert Storm footage of the MLRS batteries launching full salvos and thinking, I'm sooo glad I'm not on the receiving end of that. I believe it was Stalin that said artillery is the hammer of war, same applies to cluster munitions.

[@pbdye1607]

Only thing missing on the first one was a "hold this for me, my dude" as you pickled the Rockeyes.

[@brianwright9514]

Love watching the sead/dead missions. I know you're still learning, but it's going to be interesting to see as you start adding in complication to the IADS.

[@Stinger522]

In round one, you murdered that SAM site in the first degree. I remember watching The Fighter Pilot Podcast episode about SEAD and the HARM was described as a waste of a wing station. The next time you do a SEAD video, do it with Mavericks and CBUs. And once the Strike Eagle comes out, you should make some BFI videos.

[@mikelagaffe]

love it so much when you play some missions. looks like you really enjoy challenging yourself and putting many different skills into action in a single flight

[@griffinsdr1811]

Loving these types of missions - it would be super interesting to see 2/4 ship SEAD tactics like the US employed in the past (thinking of Prairie Fire '86) against super long range SA-5 systems in the future.

[@mechagodzillarodan]

I love the SEAD missions, please do more! In fact, more strike missions overall.

[@timsullivan4566]

Kinda fun experience! A tiny bit disappointed that we didn't have ground video of the search radars getting brrr-ed at the end ;-)

[@ricbish]

Nice video. Really great idea to practice SEAD missions with someone actually in the SAM site. I’ll have to give this a try. Fun video, keep em coming. It’s very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks…

[@benwatso]

F-16 is truly a dominant aircraft, which is crazy considering it is a 4th gen fighter

[@andrewrogers3067]

If you think about it 4th Gen covers every aircraft that isn’t the F35 or the F22

[@benwatso]

@@andrewrogers3067 f-22 is in debate about being 4th or 5th gen. F-35 is 5th gen. Also an F-22 was made in the 90s, f-16 was made in the 70s

[@imadrifter]

F-16's design and capability was way ahead of its time

[@quinndenver4075]

@@andrewrogers3067 j20

[@imadrifter]

@@Just_A_Random_Desk no its debated by some whether it is 4th or 5th gen because they think it has to do with when it was made. It actually has to do with the technology implemented on its jet. The real debate is like the F/A-18, cuz it has more tech than a 4th but not as much as a 5th so they call it a 4.5 generation.

[@dogebot4619]

Would be nice to see how the ECM pod works in this scenario

[@Tacor702]

They work quite well.

[@krismurphy7711]

Watching that mobile radar packing up for a move and WHAM!!!

[@iandl20]

Great content with SEAD, hope that you will do more variables like this

[@a-game4845]

I personally love the F-16 viper it was the first fighter jet I ever saw and I instantly fell in love.

[@sc1338]

It’s such a good platform

[@Paxton171]

Remember you can change the TGP's display to be Hot/cold and zoom in to make it easier to spot targets.

[@JulieanGalak]

I know this is 2 years old, but I'm loving the SEAD videos. I just started playing DCS, but this is really making me want to buy the f-16 wild weasel campaign.

[@Strider182]

I definitely love the SEAD style videos! Super fun to watch and I find it super interesting!

[@Cg23sailor]

I would love to see more mission oriented content rather than just 1v1 matchups

[@andrewnoble7071]

I’d love to see how different aircraft do SEAD maybe an F/A-18 next

[@windwatcher460]

Really adds an interesting element! Once you really get the hang of it I'd love to see air and ground incorporated on both sides of a PvP BVR fight!

[@VagabondTexan]

Yes, definitely keep this sort of stuff up. It's fascinating to watch.

[@jasonvick55]

Yes, please do more of these. Fantastic video!

[@buffnerd9313]

Thanks for doing this one! This was awesome!

[@itsPlanesUSA]

Awesome stuff! Keep em coming GS!

[@jbeck1083]

Love these SEAD videos, also the longer formats are great

[@ft9elVG]

1:08 to 1:13 Yes we like to see such Sead Videos. Plz carry on making them. Love and Regards from India 👍

[@climaximus7699]

Excellent video. As always

[@topfeedcoco]

Yes dude, I dig these missions too. Great vid.

[@ivanpanon]

in 1999. NATO vs SR. Yugoslavia (Serbia) SA-6 never use radar more then 10 sec. When they find target with radar then switch to electro-optical target tracking and manually missile management. One F-16 tail is in Belgrade air museum. Developers need to implement that in DCS...will be very interesting

[@MarkHoltze]

These are great! Keep em coming!

[@Acrophobia2]

I love SEAD. It is by far my favorite activity!

[@Doc_Roe]

SEAD missions are awesome! Keep the SEAD videos coming!

[@Driftwood-Cove]

SEAD is super topical these days. Also fascinating to watch.

[@imdoobie80]

the guys who wrote viper pilot would love this video.

[@Lochaby]

Yeah this refreshing, good content. Do some anti ship stuff also. I love the sam being player controlled as well, good stuff.

[@miguelruiz8183]

Great Mission keep em coming GS

[@ACat1255]

The gun run was great. Lots of old school action here, lol.

[@thomashamoen9033]

Really love theses missions! So fun to watch!

[@willielinks3865]

Love these types videos, would love to watch you play a campaign like the new Raven One campaign or something like that! Thanks for another great video

[@AKAyourdad2458]

Keep it up GS. Who wouldn't like this kind of contents.

[@colombanoalessandro]

Love to see some air to ground stuff with the viper, please keep it coming!!

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

In Desert Storm they led the strike packages with ECM aircraft like the EF-111 to jam enemy radars. Still very dangerous because they could still be jumped by enemy fighters which did happen to one EF-111. Very understandable that the USAF likes to do this sort of mission with stealth aircraft like the F-117 or the F-35, knock out the radars and air defenses first, then go after logistical and command targets with strike aircraft like F-15Es and F-16s.

[@brianwright9514]

Only air-air kill credited to an EF-111. 😂

[@fjspitz]

Love this kind of stuff. Keep going!

[@donaldkeller881]

More of this! Awesome video

[@vaderlatino9924]

I love this content. That being said, F-14 vs Su-33, F-14 in fleet defense, Su-33 escorting bomber. Over ocean obviously.

[@No1Distraction]

I enjoy this kind of video, please keep going!

[@danielarcher9918]

Liking the air to ground clips .more please.

[@GM-fh5jp]

More mayhem in the PVP server please. Love to see you stalking and fighting real players and letting them show their moves.

[@KaganRustem]

The SEAD videos are a refreshing change. Would definitely enjoy the odd SEAD video here and there.

[@stingginner1012]

My info may be out of date but I thought the SA-6 Gainful missile profile was to launch straight up and then attack from above. Which is where the name gain full comes from. That is how the F-16 shot down in Bosnia was taken out, I believe the F-117 was taken out the same way. The F-16 crews knew they were under attack when they saw the clouds at night light up as the missile went through them. To evade they looked up for the missile. At that time we had no ECM to counter the terminal guidance of the SA-6 except the mark 1 eyeball.

[@jaguarx57]

The destruction physics and sound in this one is so damn satisfying

[@Deltasayan]

It's SEAD right? Suppression of Enemy Air Defence

[@rickdubbink]

Yes

[@lilkris3008]

Dead

[@eldonrollins9728]

I enjoyed this, fun watching the learning curve, I enjoy the missions

[@skatman3278]

Be cool to see you attempt this against different complexities of IADs. Starting with single sets like this all the way to S400/Patriot

[@lawsonbrady2586]

keep up the great work man

[@icaleinns6233]

Definitely liking the SEAD stuff, lotta fun to see this.

[@firefly8464]

Good video 👍🏻 Interested to see more

[@stanwolford9743]

Love the SEAD mission content!

[@henrydisbrowe6704]

I enjoy watching what you have been doing

[@garrettsoash640]

Yes keep up the good work

[@TimbavatiLion]

I could watch SEAD all day. More is always welcome!

[@outkast94]

Love the SEAD content. Need to bring back the A-10 Warthog missions too

[@rohithg3000]

The search radars be like "See anything Dave?" "Nothing new here Frank."

[@fatboypilot]

SEAD is my favorite. The Harm Attack Display, or HAD, is awesome.

[@zolfkimbly103]

Hello! SEAD is great. My advice, set 1x105/145 as first pilon, and correct with TGP, and place harm on second pilon from centre.

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

A real-life strategy, not sure if supported in the game... Kub (SA-6) turns on his search radar briefly, just for a couple of seconds to see the location of the plane and flight parameters and instantly turn it off. Then manually turn launchers to expected point of interception, roughly (you know the speed of the missile so calculate quickly or take a guess) and launch minimum two missiles with a slight delay. These missiles can never hit like this cos they are flying without guidance... But the plane has no idea they are in the air. Then, a couple of seconds before the expected time of impact, turn the radar on. They will pick up the signal and start homing onto the plane if everything is OK. Of course, the plane can change its flight parameters and no longer be where expected or crew can miscalculate and you miss. But since the radar was briefly on, the SEAD plane will most likely not find its exact location. Actually done during Bosnia war and downed an F-16 that way. Also done during 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia by NATO...

[@Fox3-Luck]

Nice video GS!

[@pro_gemer]

I absolutely love SEED videos, please do more of them

[@briandp0560]

Bravo…thanks for the performance.

[@yourgetinbit7711]

I do love this snoop and kill style.

[@AliAbdElNasser]

Love these videos keep them up

[@phroug2]

It would be really cool if during these videos you could explain how the instrumenation works/how you read the gauges to figure out the SAM locations. Also talk about what exactly youre doing instead of just saying "defending." Like, defending how? The more things we learn, the cooler ur vids are!

[@cursoryraptor1578]

I really enjoy these SEAD missions and the vs MiG-31.

[@johnhermann5882]

Bro... I am REALLY liking this mission oriented videos. It reminds me of, and the same quality as, "Ralfidude's" videos that are so few and far between at the moment. I would encourage you to do more of these and mix them in with your instructional/entertainment dogfight videos. Would you run some SEAD/DEAD mission with the Hornet? Since the F/A-18 doesn't have an HTS (iirc) I am wondering what the difference between the two would be in regards to difficulty. Thanks again for another great video!

[@jamesyoung3700]

GS on Weasel Patrol...

[@kshepard52]

The SEAD missions seem to depend on getting painted and attacked in order to identify gun and missile emplacements, but why don't these weasel missions use airplanes with stealth features that would allow weasels to troll with high reflectivity profiles and then switch to stealth profile once their target has been identified and they need to avoid missies and AA?

[@erikerice9068]

I've heard of overkill, but geez GS all of the rounds woooow!!!!

[@KaldekBoch]

Loving these videos!!!

[@StephenAngelico]

12:31 VIPER GO BRRRRR

[@Rufus6540]

It's time to get medieval I'm goin' in for guns!!

[@oldanddisgusted5998]

I’m liking these. I have a lot of fun doing sead

[@asgernielsen4706]

They are really fun to watch! I liked the other one more, but only becourse there where som Air to air aswell. Keep it up.

[@weirddeere]

Love the SEAD missions, reminds me of playing Janes F-15 with a bunch of CBUs and hunting. Wish they'd modeled the HARM in that game. I'd still play that game if the computer could backdate far enough hahah

[@vincentmarfe445]

I would love to see this done with an F/A-18 E/F like a Top Gun Maverick style mission or with the F-35 and see how its stealth characteristics would fare in this scenario AND P47 vs EuroFighter!!!!!!

[@nick4819]

F22 and F35 would be able to launch a HARM and turn around and be gone before radar would pick them up.

[@milkelangelo1]

Man I love this videos, especially after having read Dan Hampton's book It would be really cool if you made some new video with the Eurofighter like 1 / 2 Eurofighter(s) against X bandits Love you content anyway, keep it up

[@alekosalekadis6095]

I Really enjoy it ! So cool.

[@hooviedoovie5220]

Sead was instantly one of my favorites after the f16 training mission on the HARM. Big stick.

[@bitkarek]

something new and interesting! keep it up

[@LesGorePL-1001]

Yes 👍 I loved it

[@leftnut7508]

Us aircraft armament maintainers hated that long burst with the gun. Long bursts wear the f16 gun like no other. Guaranteed a full gun swap, overhaul, and barrel replacement that probably will take 3-4 days if we got the barrels in a warzone. Video cool tho.

[@SASCAT1972]

The Kola map will be awesome for some low level anti-ship missions.

[@FD1CE]

we need way more scenarios of this kind, specially when the SAM sites are hidden in urban areas :)

[@MarcReisSyllogism]

Great content!