F-4 Phantom to F-15C Eagle; TSFs of the USA (PART ONE) | Muv-Luv Alternative Intel Records

[@sgtrock68]

I Luv the way the lore is almost cut and pasted from IRL aircraft and weapons nomenclature. Even the corporations that make them. It makes this battlefield feel familiar and I instantly have a pretty good idea what a piece of equipment's roll is when I hear it's designation. Really, I can kinda tell how powerful a weapon is meant to be compared with other designations, and I have a sense of how new it is...or how out dated it's supposed to be. Pretty dang brilliant for writing an earth sci-fi military.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah, that's what drew me to the series. No one has so perfectly nailed military sci-fi like this for me in a long time.

[@quisqueyanguy120]

It makes sense, Muv-Luv universe is an alternate reality similar but different to our own.

[@PRdreg]

Muv-Luv, Gundam, and Armored Core possess the coolest mech designs tbh.

[@joshuadelbelbelluz8325]

Fr

[@isn0t42]

Front Mission.

[@desuwa1994]

Sometimes their design intermingle like Witch has Armore Core and Gundam designs

[@jcl7549]

You let out Macross

[@yudhat1700]

Macross

[@tomaspedro7632]

Amazing, TSFs are some of my favorite types of mecha out there, the amount of thought put into their designs, lore, and combat philosophy never cease to surprise me.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Same. It not only mirrors a lot of real life history that went into their design, but also crafts it in a creative way to be suitable for the BETA war. I love all the unintended discoveries, theoretical concepts, and evolution of design philosophies that went into different TSFs, especially how some of these things were useful and others weren't

[@jmkhenka]

It just feels cheap they just take ordinary names for existing crafts, even the makers names are just "renamed".. A-6 Intruder is made by Grumman, but here its "grunnan". Feels cheap, as someone who knows the hisory behind the real aircraft names..

[@Shinhwa22]

woah wait what did i stumble onto an anime that has Mechs named after actual Jet Fighters... thank you , found something new to watch

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I hope you enjoy it. It's a fun anime that I loved, even if it comes off as quite rushed and confusing. But the real story is definitely in the VN. Regardless, the mech battles are epic.

[@deezidibbs9796]

Anime is not as good as the VN,read it,it does not disappoint

[@yushadrageos7699]

@@deezidibbs9796 It will also traumatize you. The Chomp scene will never stop haunting you.

[@deezidibbs9796]

@@yushadrageos7699 Seeing what happened to Marimo back in junior high gave me ptsd

[@drakenzahn9149]

There's this quote in the codex that I really like, from page 236, where Yoshimune talked about how he didn't want any TSF to feel any lesser even if it's a grunt, and that they should fit as protagonists if given the chance. I really like that, you can tell the designers meant it with each mech having so much care and detail put into them. Really good video.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

It's the perfect storytelling philosophy to me. Too many works of fiction dismiss the "good guy army" as expendable or incompetent without the heroes. Even in stories I enjoy. I'm attached to Muv-Luv specifically because the creator recognizes that, realistically, all of those redshirt TSFs would still be used by humans capable of their own heroics and stories

[@Nostripe361]

@@yamamotomechbattlesthis is something that annoys me in a couple mech series. Some them leave me wondering how the bad guys have not already won with how bad the basic good guy unit is

[@PhoenixFires]

Its insane how not only the plane and manufacturer names are parodies, but even the ENGINE is based on their real equivalents!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah Kouki really knew about the aircraft development world. I think his family worked in that industry

[@barrybend7189]

Macross did the same for all pre Space War 1 manufacturers.

[@StephenDelRosario777]

Their tactical knife is named after the cannon, that is hilarious.

[@specialnewb9821]

Parodies? Or lazy

[@KillerOrca]

This is some absolutely balls to the wall alternative lore and I LOVE IT.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying it!

[@jaein7779]

It amazes me how closely these mechs mission profiles and designs follow the actual fighter planes they are based upon. I now want to watch this anime.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I hope you like it. It's uh...not perfect in execution, but the visual novels hold the true story and are done quite well for their time. But yeah, the author truly knew his stuff when it came to designing these machines based off their real world counterparts.

[@Rataldo20]

Try to read the visual novels. It does way more justice than the anime

[@matteste]

Always nice to see videos like these for franchises such as Muv-Luv and Gundam. I always get the feeling that these series get shafted in Military Sci-fi discussions.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

For real. Making a good military story is harder than a lot of people think, and Muv-Luv and Gundam are two pieces of fiction that nail it. Gundam does a good job of exploring the tragedy and losses when humans war against one another. MLA not only does its homework when it comes to mission planning and "no plan survives first contact", but also perfectly douses you in anxiety during battles and rewards you with PTSD to overcome lol

[@matteste]

@@yamamotomechbattles Yea, I think the only "general" youtuber that gives either any attention is Spacedock, and that is only on occasion. Others like say Templin Institute and the like only ever seem to bring Gundam up (Muv-Luv is lucky if its existence is even acknowledged) to diss on them for being stupid when the very series they themselves tend to cover often fitting that label better.

[@superspicysoysauce8231]

Sunrise managed to make Gundam to stay relevant. Age not so much sadly.

[@Zaffr3]

OMG. This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you so much for doing this! In depth mecha analysis and history like Kakarot197's "Gundam Development History" videos makes me oh so happy. I can't wait for more of these kinds of videos!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Glad to provide it! There is definitely a long list of TSFs we've compiled to create more content like this

[@cesare_1302]

Can't wait for 3rd gen TSFs to see the raptor, the typhoon and the rafale. Keep up, this franchise deserve way more attention 🔝

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes it does. I'm eager to get to those ones too. Thanks for watching!

[@drewman9451]

We need the A-10 to be in more media. It needs more love

[@yamamotomechbattles]

1000% agree with this

[@WolfeSaber]

It needs more love in real life.

[@WolfeSaber]

@windrose5988 So is the B-52 and we're still chucking that thing along, well past the 2040s.

[@beemy.6923]

@@WolfeSaberyes but the B-52 can be outdated the A-10 can not afford that

[@WolfeSaber]

@@beemy.6923 Which is why the B-52 cannot serve as a close in air support platform. It's still a carpet bomber.

[@s981318]

Keep up the good work. Really happy to see someone like you giving so much love to Muv Luv

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks, I'll keep at it. Glad to be sharing how awesome this franchise is

[@adept151]

What's kinda neat about this is that irl USAF built a mech back in the 60s for servicing returning radioactive bombers. They even did some promotional stunts which includes lifting a model off the ground gently and plucking eggs out of cartons without cracking the shell.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

That's pretty friggin cool. Didn't know that lol

[@matiasfpm]

Ah, that General Electric tank....

[@upeo12]

I've tried to write this comment three times already but I just can't find the right words to express the absolute LOVE I have for Muv-Luv, it attacked every single one of my favorite things, it had aliens, it had romance, it had near future sci fi, it had greatly mechs, and it had a beautiful and dark story about honor and survival. I just fucking adore Muv-Luv, it's so sad that it's not that well known, makes me wanna cri

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I love the franchise too. It's not perfect here and there, but it nails exactly what I love to see in sci fi. And you can tell how the author truly understands the military aspect, but also how well done a lot of the character interactions are. It's one of my top tier sci fi stories of all time.

[@upeo12]

@@yamamotomechbattles yamamotoBASEDbattles

[@magellali1623]

While 3rd Gen TSF like F22 and Shiranui are at the cutting edge of human technology, the main work horse of humanity war effort are the 1st and 2nd gen like F4 and F15 with the F15 being the currently used in so many roles throughout the world. Active Eagle is the coolest of the F15

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Too true. You can never discredit the grunt TSFs who do all the frontline fighting. One thing I like about the F-4 and F-15 is that, while they don't necessarily win the day, they're never shown to be useless without the heroes to back them up. They put in the work, whether successful or not.

[@magellali1623]

@@yamamotomechbattles TSF aren't Gundam, you can't solo an entire BETA horde and win. Humanity is fighting a global war of attrition so the number is needed. I play HOI4, I know the price of quality over quantity mindset in a long war.

[@tylerandrews4375]

this channel is like an anime equivalent of Operations room and I love it.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks, I'm inspired by them and Kings & Generals

[@basedsketch4133]

The muv-luv A-10 is sick I'd love to see a SU-25 with machine gun pods stacked on the shoulders instead of how the A-10 TSF having the Gatling guns sticking out the shoulders

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I think I've seen fan art of it somewhere. It was something like that. Looked pretty cool

[@Kurruchi]

Y'all are killing it with the Muv-Luv content. Please continue!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you, I definitely will!

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

TSAs are simply a different breed A-6 and A-10 my beloved!!!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

A line of them putting rounds downrange is nothing but pure awesome

[@sackjhindo511]

There is something appealing about “realistic” mechs. Any chance you’ll be covering the AS units from Full Metal Panic and Labor units from the Patlabor series?

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I'd have to do more research on the story and mechs, but yeah both are really cool series. The AS have always had really good designs

[@bluekashus2499]

This is great, it really did help clear up some things for me. I also love how they incorporated the real F14 history with the mecha version, very nice. These info videos really do compliment the battlefild report videos quite nicely. I really can see you doing this with the UC Gundam Mechs, too.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah the F14 lore is really good. I think this new series adds a lot of variety to the content

[@helmhamburgerhand]

I love all the variations of actual company names

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Discovering they weren't typos was definitely the most entertaining part when I first saw them lol

[@foofinators]

A-10 warthog in our universe: put a plane on that gun A-10 warthog in muv-luv: put a mech on that gun

[@sparkyastrea5058]

I barely know anything about Miv Luv but the designers made such good designs that I could tell which jets the mecha were based off of just by seeing them

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah they put a lot of thought into it, there are plenty noticeable similarities alongside subtle ones. Glad you enjoyed viewing them

[@alexknudsen2759]

Love your channel, the battle breakdowns are great fun and this one specifically got me into Muv Luv!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks! Yeah I have a lot of fun creating those. This format just lets me info dump all the lore too

[@critical_shot9292]

The best things about this list besides the cool mech designs is the names of the companies that make them😂😂

[@OverseerMoti]

Muv-Luv takes Bland Name Products trope to a global scale.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah I always enjoyed that. Seems like the author was having a lot of fun

[@StriderVM]

Thank you for these videos. I am really bad at getting specific details from either ingame or supplemental materials. These are a great help!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

You're welcome, glad to help!

[@waraftermath4202]

10:38 Nice find on the A-10 picture! I was wondering if it was from the index, unless it’s from an anime scene

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks. I found it on the wiki actually, but it looks like that was a model taken from the Schwarzesmarken anime. It's a damn good pic of the A-10

[@libertylivesin1776]

I love the aircraft in our timeline, but this is an awesome take on what if mechs ruled the skies instead.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Agreed. And it's not just a superficial robot version of a plane. You can tell how much the creator truly knew the stories of these aircraft and how they were designed and function

[@alexvanbeek7165]

Can't wait to watch part 2!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

It's out! Hope you enjoy it

[@Rataldo20]

Amazing video dude. Its sooo good that muv luv its getting some love❤

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks! Yeah, agree. That's all I wanted lol

[@HistoryChad101]

I would very much enjoy you making more of these videos, I don’t mind reading on wiki but these are much better.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I appreciate that. There's definitely follow ups to this -- the rest of the American TSFs, the Soviets, Japanese, EU, etc

[@spirz4557]

F-4 Phantom IRL : World's Largest Distributor of MiG Parts by shooting them down. F-4 Phantom in Muv Luv : World's Largest Distributor of MiG Parts by being their genitor.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

The results are in, and the F-4 is the daddy

[@marseldagistani1989]

@@yamamotomechbattles U.S.S.R. IRL: What is this Heresy!

[@joshuajoaquin5099]

impressive video, i was late on the party. Keep it up

[@yamamotomechbattles]

For sure, thanks. There's more to come

[@S1337theoddoneout-ip9xc]

I really love the copyright safe names for the manufacturers, my favorite was Pratt & Whitney. Let me tell you, you're one hell of a narrator, if you're not doing so already, you could consider narrating professionally (meaning, getting pay a pretty penny for it, not that what you're doing now isn't pro quality already). Heavens know the world could use gifted voices like yours.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks, that really means a lot. I took a few speech and drama classes in high school, so I've been taught to enunciate a bit. But I consider my narration to be amateur level work. So that's a big compliment.

[@S1337theoddoneout-ip9xc]

@@yamamotomechbattles well, you've the natual voice for it. Maybe get a little training if you feel like needing improvement and give it a go.

[@robertungsod691]

The a10 is my favorite along f14 they are the best example of bringing freedom and democracy to the BETA. The a10 in real life flying gun with wings in muv luv a walking giant minigun on steroids both with the satisfying BRRRRRRRRRRRT sound while the Phoenix missile are design for long range air to air missiles for Soviet bombers in muv luv a long-range DPICM for cluster munitions good thing they include this in its arsenal but like its real-world counter part its was decommissioned due to high maintenance cost i like it both its real world counter parts.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah both are awesome. That's what I love about these designs. You get a glimpse of reality reflected in them. It's cool to see the parallels

[@robertungsod691]

​@@yamamotomechbattles i have questions for the phoenix are its sub munitions 250 or 500 pound bombs after rewatching the scwharzesmarken for 10 times because its satisfying for me watch the f14 launching there phoenix releasing there sub munitions then i notice the explosion for there submunition is too big to be a normal dpicm and airdrop version by planes. Or maybe its just for cinematography.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

@@robertungsod691 Hmm I went into the codex to look, and it doesn't specify anything more than "suppresses a wide area by dispersing small explosives". So I suppose it's just cinematography.

[@aarongerard7277]

Just found your channel today and I am loving it!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I'm glad you're enjoying it!

[@daigdiganralphadrian7111]

A great video that is worth watching

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching!

[@Lolm3ist3r]

Aw man, Muv-Luv lore channel. This gonna b good.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks, stay tuned for more!

[@Evangelion543]

I love how, no matter the universe; the A-10 thunderbolt is just either a giant gun attached with wings/legs. lmfao, what a gorgeous gun you have. edit: Pls, do more! I love the show too much.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes she is a beauty, and I'm glad the designers made it known. I'll definitely do more!

[@Kyuu322-u6g]

The Algorithm brought me here. Time to binge watch your videos.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you, and thank the Algorithm! Hope you enjoyed lol

[@msumoza5293]

well made my friend!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you!

[@thekietnguyen2673]

Yyyaaayyy, new content :DD

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Hell yeah!

[@thekietnguyen2673]

@@yamamotomechbattles I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!!!!! :DDDD

[@generalcheese5858]

Another Great Video. And Great Information, but do you try to make video of Other TSFs of European countries? Like Swedish and French TSFs?

[@huycan9518]

The Sweden and Swedish does have TSF, for Swden, the Draken but it's likely they also used F-5

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes, we have a huge list of every TSF that has appeared and/or we can find pictures of. So you can expect to see EU, Soviet, and Japanese TSFs in the future

[@yamamotomechbattles]

@@huycan9518 And the Gripen, which Stella pilots at the end of TE

[@huycan9518]

@@yamamotomechbattles the Gripen looks badass compares to other TSF, but the sad thing is that the TSF still missing info of Jump Unit...

[@yamamotomechbattles]

@@huycan9518 Yeah there's not even a sprite for it anywhere

[@BigTArmada]

Great summaries, detailed but sucinct. Awesome!

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@josetanon7789]

would love part 2 chief o7

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I've delivered! Enjoy o7

[@aemeneol8569]

I only discovered your channel now, bless you.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thank you! Welcome

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Feels so wierd hearing plane names on mechs that dont have anything to do with such planes, tho the desing looks very good

[@thealternativeproject]

What do you mean? They are modelled after them pretty well ,personally half of them i can see their real life counter parts.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

The designs mimic the real versions in subtle ways, but I love these planes as well, so making mech versions of them was just perfection

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@yamamotomechbattles they look awesome, and mixes 2 of my biggest interest that are military stuff and mecha

[@randallmart92]

Aye this is dope! I love all mech anime out there. You should definitely do the history on Knightmare frames from code geass.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah, Code Geass has some good political tension and battles with strategy. I could definitely explore it. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it

[@BKBTC-e9m]

LOVE THIS

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks!

[@jhinfps2377]

MORE OF THESE PLS!!!!!! love your narration

[@yamamotomechbattles]

For sure, thanks!

[@jhinfps2377]

@@yamamotomechbattles make Full metal panic in the future.

[@carlosgracia2147]

Thanks for the video

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Of course, thanks for watching!

[@setsunafs0018]

I hope we get an episode about operation Ouka. I know the fronts from Alternative and Total Eclipse but I don't know what the other nations were doing. If there are extensive materials covering Operation Ouka I hope it gets discussed in the future.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah there isn't much on all the many different fronts. Just snippets near the end of Total Eclipse. Even Alternative didn't show us the big battle taking place outside the original hive, or at Korea due to budget. I really want for that battle to be depicted at the epic scale it was said to be, and I wish the anime had gotten there.

[@setsunafs0018]

500% agree. If the ever do the the next season and reach Operation Ouka this would be a perfect time to expand the material by showing the other fronts during Ouka

[@servicerifle16]

I almost thought this was an Alternative Project upload lol. At least a TSF series can hold you over until Season 3 of the anime comes out to pull footage from. Maybe do TDA or TE as well? Also I'm assuming there'll be a part 2 with the F16, F18, F22 and F23, maybe the F35 or was that a fan created TSF?

[@comentnine1574]

From what I read on the wiki the F-35 will be in the newest episode of TDA. Can’t remember what it’s actually called but supposedly this episode is meant to bring the TDA timeline to a close.

[@servicerifle16]

@@comentnine1574 I still need to finish TDA, I've been slowly chipping away at it, I'm only on episode 1 though. It's been years since I've been on the wiki, I was the one that made most of the small arms pages lol.

[@comentnine1574]

@@servicerifle16 I see

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes, definitely will include those in the part 2. The F-35 is included in that too, as it is mentioned briefly in the codex. But I will mostly be drawing from the wiki for its info

[@glennmatthews758]

Where are the mines in this universe? It was a monumental effort to remove as much metal as we currently have from the ground, this universe is just insane.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Africa and South America are basically being stripped of all resources. It's actually noted in the visual novel that even if they beat the BETA, humanity is completely depleting its resources and damaging the environment on a large scale. Who knows whether life on Earth will remain viable? And that's a question for IF they win

[@Jade_The_Peryton]

I always wonder, how fast do the jump units push the TSF? Like, it has to be fast and hard to require their Fortified suit to handle high-G maneuvers.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

The specific acceleration is not really listed anywhere, but it definitely shoves you around really hard. We know it can get fatal without the equipment for it. I mean, just seeing them zig zag around makes me think about the pilot inside being subject to so much inertia despite whatever tech they might have in the control unit and fortified suit to counter it. Overall, I think top speed isn't as fast as a fighter jet, but acceleration is by far.

[@mooxsir]

Muv Luv the GOAT

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Hell yeah

[@thomaspynchon1868]

Im waiting for your operation ouka video! Its more entertaining watching your vid than the anime/visual itself.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks. Lol yeah that video's gonna be a monster that I'm anticipating for later this year.

[@activatewindows4685]

Will you also have a kind of series like this for Macross? I feel like Macross flew under the radar for a lot of people who like Mecha genre and I wanna bring the franschires back to life 😢

[@yamamotomechbattles]

One day for sure. Alongside Gundam, I grew up on Macross

[@activatewindows4685]

@@yamamotomechbattles Glad to heat that mate.

[@40letranhuutin68]

I hope there will be a video about TSF of Japan, I love Japan, love Sushi, love their car and love hent… I mean anime.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

There will be. Maybe there will be one about waifus as well lol

[@armada345]

Awesome

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks for watching

[@armada345]

@yamamotomechbattles Your welcome its good to have someone who's doing something like this nobody on KZbin has.

[@barrybend7189]

hey the TSA A-6 intruder looks like an Invit battlesuit from Genesis Climber Mospeada.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I think I saw that series a long time ago, but I can't remember. But looking it up, I can definitely see the resemblance. The A-6 is the most nonhuman looking

[@barrybend7189]

@@yamamotomechbattles I played Robotech Invasion and I fondly remember the enemies being really fun to fight. Shame there was no mech segments in the game.

[@tomywijaya2442]

Waiting for more muv luv and TSF👍

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Definitely. Got multiple projects going on right now, some Gundam, lots of Muv Luv.

[@christianemmanjacaba9510]

now we need every tsf of every faction and all squadorns that uses them

[@yamamotomechbattles]

For sure, there's a lot more TSFs on my list to cover

[@davidlee3499]

can't wait to see the F35 and the F22

[@yamamotomechbattles]

F-35 is all written out. It and the YF-23 will feature in Part 3. In the meantime, the Raptor is definitely in Part 2, which is up now!

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

I don’t understand how a robot mecha would ever be more efficient at a fight jet’s combat role, especially since the mecha isn’t even aerodynamic, it’s a clunky robot. In the future fighters would probably have more advanced abilities which wouldn’t be done as efficiently by a mecha.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

It's a response to the alien's combat capabilities. They have a couple laser species that only need to stare at a plane to shoot it down, essentially a perfect AA system. At first, the mecha were built to be more armored, so that's why they aren't aerodynamic. It is pure engine output for the most part. But as the generations go on, aerodynamic design starts to get more heavily incorporated. The whole idea is that these machines can quickly move over the battlefield, but can also quickly switch to a ground role as soon as the laser species are detected in the vicinity. The laserjagd is the TSF's version of SEAD, and unlike planes, they can fly in low, take up ground positions, and then get airborne once lasers are dealt with so they don't get swarmed. And of course, in universe, they aren't meant to fight against humans and are theorized to be phased out once the BETA are dealt with decades down the road.

[@luisareyes400]

@@yamamotomechbattles one question what happen when the BETA are detroyed and humanity is free from it are they going use them on Mars( because theres BETA on that planet of course) when theres are no more BETA are the other country going to keep the TSF for themself or the USA are going to take them back peacefully or by force.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

@@luisareyes400 The US wouldn't be able to take them back, but they could stop exporting them if that happened. But theoretically, this war won't end for 20 years. The BETA won't be beaten out of the solar system for much longer. By then, most nations will probably have the means to make their own.

[@Spaceman0720]

Good luck pitting that against a few Laser Class beta, AKA, the most OP Anti-Air weapon system.

[@jarretthuffin]

Love the run down of all of the American weaponry. I'm still trying to figure out how in every anime like this the American military always gets used as the "dumb guys" or the "too reliant on tech" guys, and always end up getting done in by some 12 or 15 year old who either trained all his life (again a kid) or luck/ wandered into the mech.... Can my anime brethren help me? Tell me why this is a thing

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah lol it's that main character energy. Thankfully, the only Japanese teen MC is talented...but that only gets him so far. The experience of veteran pilots and their maturity and competency are what really kept me hooked. Meanwhile, the other MCs are already trained military pilots. But as for the Americans.... Their reliance on long range is a reference to actual US military history. In Vietnam, they believed that equipping F-4s with missiles meant that the dogfight was over and all aerial engagements would be happening at long range. So they never gave the F-4 guns, just missiles. Dogfights still happened, and the missile took way too long to lock on, and was not always effective. Later versions of the F-4 had guns, and American pilots were dogfighting once again just like in Korea and WW2. At least in Muv-Luv, the writers do not hesitate to show how much the US military can kick everyone's ass. They do. And when they're not, they're showing everyone up because they have the guns, logistics, and tech to do so. But their troops are also portrayed honorably, such as Major Walken or the Black Knives (and all of the JFK crew). It's the American government that's shady.

[@DontKnow-tw6ii]

Is only they could use beam weapons like Gundam the kill the beta is piece of cake And man I'm wish they made this in to game like front mission or SD Gundam that would be great

[@WolfeSaber]

These machines would probably be a lot cooler, and maybe more tactically powerful, if they could transform, having alt modes that resemble their real world name sakes.

[@jobsgunther5396]

Ymmv on coolness (Zeta gundam ftw), but tactically no. Leaving aside maintenance, a TSF’s survival depends on staying low and hugging the ground, there’s an entire flying technique that depends on skimming the ground. Going high means that when a laser class gets a lock, your 2-3 second window to escape line of sight before you’re vaporized is spent getting low to the ground, instead of hiding behind a hill. If your machine transforms you have to either put yourself at high risk speeding along the ground, or waste time changing modes. Better to stay in 1 mode and accept a slower velocity.

[@WolfeSaber]

@@jobsgunther5396 The Veritechs from Macross can fly at Mach four in fighter mode. Plus, the hybrid mode has mobility and speed, though not stealthy.

[@jobsgunther5396]

@@WolfeSaber neat. Lasers will still swat them out of the sky if they get a lock, so they’ll need to fly low enough to touch the ground. That fast and that low can be as dangerous as actually fighting. Plus this isn’t macross.

[@WolfeSaber]

@@jobsgunther5396 The tactic used by the US air forces, either Air Force or Navy, is to fly low to the ground to bypass enemy anti air defenses. The B-52 can't fly low like that, but the B-1B and fighter jets can.

[@WolfeSaber]

Also, why are they reinventing the wheel by using 36mm and not 37mm, a round that just about every nation that got firearms by some means has used. The 36mm never existed.

[@anonymousidn777]

This is what Imperial Knight look like during Dark age of technology

[@yamamotomechbattles]

The Emperor protects

[@mastwellchirwa4499]

muv luv at heart, has 1 of the most phasible machines designs ever and accompanied by a good story about a war again time and resourses, i love gundam and amoured core but, this will always be a number 1 for me, the alternative anime adaptation is not complete for me though

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I'm in the same boat. These mecha just make the most sense to me out of all the other ones, as much as giant robots can make sense.

[@mastwellchirwa4499]

@@yamamotomechbattles facts, for example, the only true scifi component for me was the suits, they handle alot of Gs but the pilot still is gonna blackout unless trained, then we have the super carbon used for the actuators for the TSFs, but i saw a documentary or news last year about live carbon molecules so that is almost there in phasible, the rest perfect. ofcourse the psyonic guys are scifi but it fits the story to a tea, not spoiling...

[@JuliursDarkzlu]

NICE

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Hell yeah!

[@liangyi2497]

Keep up the good work, will you do other series beside muvluv?

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks! Yes, I'm slowly trying to work my way into doing more UC Gundam. I also want to do other series in the future

[@jonathanj.3695]

The development of these mechs is surprisingly realistic. Just like in real life, the United States tends to be the first to develop and utilize newer military technologies that their allies quickly adapt and make variants of.

[@kashawashatvop203]

Men thanks for making this video I was looking for a video like this I just subscribe

[@yamamotomechbattles]

You're welcome. Thanks for the support. I'll be making more like this

[@45580677]

Epic

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Indeed! Thanks

[@kazutokirigaya1839]

I like F22 , damnn she look really beauty man

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah it's a very well designed mecha version of the Raptor

[@texastea.2734]

Funny you mention you wanted to see more of Indi and his father interact there was a TV series called “young Indiana jones” and it takes place throughout indis life from child to old man

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I binged that half a decade ago lol. I enjoyed the ww1 arc, even the part leading up to him being a spy and all the references to Kafka and Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness

[@jonellesamaniego779]

part 2 ❤

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Definitely!

[@robertungsod691]

A watching so many muvluv VN and anime I'm very confused is to were the TSF put there extra magazines.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Idk if it's ever shown in full, but there are compartments on the hip/skirt armor that can open and extend a mag up to be reloaded. And the US TSFs have them in the chunky knee blocks.

[@jonathananog386]

Waiting gor 2nd part

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Thanks. It's on the way, slowly but surely!

[@40letranhuutin68]

For those who curious about if there is a version TSF of Su57 than the answer is yes, but it is called T50 not su57

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Sadly wherever I looked I haven't been able to find anything the Soviets developed after the Su-47

[@40letranhuutin68]

@@yamamotomechbattles You know , there is also a J20 TSF of China and ATD X Shinshin of Japan too, and they are definitely more beautiful than the T50. The T50 looks like a mixture of Su47 and F22, it also got a very long knee armor and ugly face.

[@charlesgregorio9890]

"If the Dark Ages never happened" theory

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Lol yeah. Space was achieved in the 50s or so

[@leonodonoghueburke4276]

If Genghis Khan stayed in Mongolia lol

[@stevengreen9536]

The TSF's remind me of the humanoid types from Armored Core.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

That's a huge reason why I was immediately invested. I love Armored Core designs, and TSFs captured that feeling perfectly

[@Kai-ow9gi]

What scene is that moon battle from? I wish they showed more of the lunar conflict in the show

[@yamamotomechbattles]

It's from the prologue of the Total Eclipse anime. And yeah, I agree. There was a whole war up there that should be explored, especially because they started using exoskeletons for the infantry and I want to see how those fare in lore

[@comentnine1574]

Surprised you didn’t use the Muv Luv wiki as source material.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Ah, I did use it as a source, but I didn't want Professor Kouzuki to flunk me for citing a wiki 😆

[@ivankrylov6270]

Im glad my chonky boi a-6 gets some representation

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes, and he's one of the best bois

[@lieutenantdutain7382]

Fighter jets transformed into mechs

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Pretty much. And with decent parallels to real life development histories too

[@ry0usama511]

Man I want a non scale F15 model kit so bad

[@yamamotomechbattles]

I hear ya. The F-15 is my personal favorite

[@ry0usama511]

@@yamamotomechbattles it's my third, below f22 and f14. So glad the latter got non scale kit, sadly strike eagle doesn't

[@edokdicht]

good

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Indeed

[@bloodwintertales5984]

Is this and Schwarzes marken in the same universe? Both have TSF and fight the beta? Haven’t heard of MUV-LUV but have seen SM

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes, Schwarzesmarken is a spin-off that takes place during the 80s of this universe. Total Eclipse and Alternative take place during 2001.

[@bloodwintertales5984]

@@yamamotomechbattles ahhh Just started alternative pretty awesome

[@harukashouko1131]

Can you talk about the KG6SLEIPNIR and the KG7AREION from aldnoah zero

[@yamamotomechbattles]

When I get bigger and look to expand, yeah I'd like to give Aldnoah Zero a shot

[@picoletor]

so, all of them have real life planes names? also, the music during the description of the A-6 seems to be very inspired by klendathu drop...

[@OverseerMoti]

Yes, and a few more original ones mainly from Japan.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yeah they are alternate universe versions of the planes we have. There are also a LOT of reference to Starship Troopers and dozens of other sci fi works. "Assault Landing" is pretty much a huge nod to "Klendathu Drop", both taking place during a chaotic assault against the aliens. The book is referenced in the way Orbital Divers deploy to the battlefield, which is essentially the exact same process the Mobile Infantry uses.

[@picoletor]

@@yamamotomechbattles cool! there is never enough SST referenes, i can see a lot of influences from the SCRIN too about the theme (thanks for the name, love it!) when i tough that VF-ZERO from macross zero ost was an impresive kendathu drop homage, now i discover "assault landing"

[@fredhercmaricaubang1883]

Dude, how about a video on the Macross Valkyrie series of Variable Fighters?

[@yamamotomechbattles]

It's definitely a series I plan on covering in the future, since I grew up watching Macross

[@fredhercmaricaubang1883]

@@yamamotomechbattles ALRIGHT! Another one who doesn't call this classic series Robotech! I'm SO looking forward to it! And again THANK YOU FOR THIS!

[@40letranhuutin68]

I am wondering if we let the TSF vs mobile suit in One year war ( like shiranui vs GM Striker ) . Which side will win ?

[@aghressor]

Standard EFSF and Zeon conventional weapon calibers are in the >=100mm sizes while standard TSF cannons range from >30mm to

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Good question. They both have different designs and purposes. I think TSFs are naturally faster (at least 2.5 gen and 3rd gen), while MS are more armored and have bigger guns. I don't think an MS can keep up or dogfight the way TSFs do, but all it would need to do is aim well and hit once or twice (especially with beam weapons).

[@40letranhuutin68]

@@yamamotomechbattles What if they meele combat on the ground ? I mean Shiranui has its type 97 sword and GM has its beam spear and both can do serious and deadly dash.

[@yamamotomechbattles]

@@40letranhuutin68 Hmmm probably gonna give it to the GM because of the beam spear. He just needs to touch the Shiranui, whereas the Type 94's longblade would probably have to be going at higher speeds to cut through the GM. But also pilot skill can change this...and sadly, GM pilots, as much as I love them, aren't always uh...well, winners :(

[@40letranhuutin68]

@@yamamotomechbattles Yeah you right . But not all GM pilot are bad, like the one who is called the Zombie GM is a very good pilot.

[@marksudayon8300]

Was there a Swedish TSF's as well like the Draken, Viggen and Gripen?

[@naznash026]

Yes

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yes, the Draken and Viggen don't have any art that I'm aware of, or at least any colored-in sprites or illustrations. The Gripen appears a couple times, and one of the side characters pilots one in the final battle, but it has no sprite or other appearances sadly. It's a beautiful craft

[@konohamaru77]

17:42 OH SHIT....ITS CHIPER FAVORITE TSF

[@yamamotomechbattles]

The F-15 is awesome!

[@reyvip]

more more mmore more :D

[@yamamotomechbattles]

You got it. Hard at work!

[@tieradlerch.217]

They really mean a jet fighter in form of a robot

[@yamamotomechbattles]

Yep, essentially